Episode 16
S3E16 - "The Empire Strikes Jack" (featuring Danielle Joy)
This week on the Non Judging Breakfast Pod, Leif and Steve are back at it, diving into the delightful drama of Gossip Girl Season 3, Episode 16, titled "The Empire Strikes Jack." Buckle up, because the stakes are higher than a pair of stilettos on the Upper East Side! Chuck is dealing with some serious family drama thanks to his long-lost mother, Elizabeth, while Blair is juggling a fashion show and her mom’s lofty expectations. Meanwhile, Jenny’s caught in a wild web of chaos with her former frenemy, Agnes, leading to a night that’s anything but predictable.
Join Leif and Steve, along with their fabulous guest Danielle Joy, as they break down the episode’s most jaw-dropping moments—think Chuck’s emotional rollercoaster and Jenny’s chaotic escapades. Expect sharp commentary, hilarious banter, and a sprinkle of cringe-worthy moments as they untangle the messy threads of love, loyalty, and betrayal that keep you hooked on these characters. So, grab your breakfast of choice—be it a bagel, a smoothie, or a slice of cake—and settle in for an episode loaded with all the drama and scandal you crave! Trust us, it’s way more entertaining than mindlessly scrolling through your social media feed.
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Transcript
Yeah, and apparently Dorota's baby kicks out of
Steve:time. And sloppily, because she
Steve:kicks like Lars Zolrick from Metallica.
Leif:Shots fired.
Steve:Shots fired.
Leif:Hey, Upper east siders and all you scandal loving listeners out
Leif:there, you just tuned into the non judging breakfast
Leif:podcast where the coffee is strong, the
Leif:waffles are fresh, and the gossip is hotter than ever.
Leif:My name is Leif, and I'm your seasoned Gossip Girl veteran.
Steve:And I'm Steve, the newbie, the greenhorn, the,
Steve:uh, I don't know, Leif. We're in season three. What am I
Steve:now?
Leif:You whore and a half. You just couldn't keep it in your pants,
Leif:could you?
Steve:Well, Leif, it wasn't me,
Steve:because I'm in love with your uncle.
Leif:Okay.
Steve:So here's the deal, folks. Leaf has been watching
Steve:Gossip Girl since it first aired, and I'm diving in for
Steve:the first time. And together, we're your dynamic duo,
Steve:uh, bringing you all the drama, romance, and
Steve:sometimes questionable fashion choices of this
Steve:iconic 2007 series.
Leif:Bring your magnifying glasses, because each week we're
Leif:dissecting every juicy detail of the show one
Leif:episode at a time. We'll connect the dots.
Leif:I cover those sneaky little Easter eggs, and of course, serve
Leif:up some piping hot behind the scenes tea. And expect
Leif:some iconic phantom moments too, because what's a deep
Leif:dive without a little drama?
Steve:And since we are all about inclusivity here at the non
Steve:judging breakfast pod, there is always a seat for you at the
Steve:non judging breakfast table. So go ahead and grab your
Steve:mimosa, a cup of coffee, or roll up something from
Steve:Chuck's stash, and let's go ahead and get into this.
Leif:Ah. All right, Steve, June is guest month because
Leif:we got another guest today. We are here with
Leif:actor, producer, and podcast host,
Leif:Danielle Joy.
Steve:Yay.
Danielle Joy:Hi, everyone. Hi. Hi.
Leif:Welcome to the podcast.
Steve:Yes, welcome to the non judging breakfast table.
Danielle Joy:Yeah. Thank you for having me.
Steve:Absolutely.
Leif:And so we do ask this for everyone, but
Leif:it's, uh, a little more interesting in your case.
Leif:But what is your relationship with Gossip Girl?
Danielle Joy:Oh, man. So I actually worked on the
Danielle Joy:show in various capacities, but
Danielle Joy:you'll be seeing me in this episode.
Steve:That's really fun. And we
Steve:definitely were spotting for you the
Steve:entire time.
Leif:Yes, I did admit I went a little Joe
Leif:Goldberg on your Instagram and I found the
Leif:picture of you from 10 years ago very
Leif:appropriate.
Danielle Joy:You reference with Penn Badgley, by the way.
Leif:Yes.
Leif:Uh, so we both have our guesses. I don't know if you want to say now or if
Leif:you want to wait till we get to the scene to reveal?
Danielle Joy:Up to you guys.
Steve:Why don't we guess now, and then when
Steve:you're actually in it, you tell us if we're right or
Steve:if we're wrong.
Danielle Joy:Sure. Yeah, that works. Yeah.
Leif:So I was thinking, you are the third
Leif:Columbia student.
Steve:Yeah, I was thinking. Because I was torn. There
Steve:were two people that I kind of was torn on.
Steve:And of course, I'm going only from your Instagram as well.
Steve:I was torn between. There was one of the models
Steve:that I thought could have been you. There
Steve:was also the same one that Leif was just
Steve:talking to that was in the scene with
Steve:Marisa Fumaro and
Steve:the other Columbia, uh, student. So
Steve:those were my two guesses that we. That I thought I
Steve:saw.
Danielle Joy:Do you want me to confirm or deny?
Leif:Uh, let's wait till we get to the scene.
Danielle Joy:Uh, very good guesses, gentlemen.
Steve:Some other scene should be like, you idiots.
Steve:I was Lily's stunt double.
Leif:A little bookkeeping before we get into the episode. A few
Leif:episodes ago, I did, uh, mention I was going to look up one
Leif:when Penn Badgley and Blake Lively broke
Leif:up. Uh, it was. Yes,
Leif:it was, uh, announced by Us Weekly. It was
Leif:confirmed in their October of 2010 issue,
Leif:which would have been the beginning of season four
Leif:shooting.
Steve:Yeah. Okay, that tracks.
Leif:Now, Greene Lantern fell between March and
Leif:August of 2010.
Danielle Joy:Spoiler alert.
Steve:Yeah, that was my next question.
Leif:Now, I'm guessing Blake was probably not at all of
Leif:that because she was fairly small part in the movie.
Leif:So I guess she probably went after Gossip Girl. And
Leif:in filming, which I recall was probably
Leif:like, April ish was when you guys usually ended.
Leif:Does that sound right, Danielle?
Danielle Joy:Uh, yeah,
Danielle Joy:Yeah. I remember we started in, like, July,
Danielle Joy:and we would usually finish. It was like, uh, it was
Danielle Joy:a good 9 to 10 months of filming for each
Danielle Joy:season.
Steve:Yeah, she had a small role in
Steve:the movie, but a big role in Ryan Reynolds heart.
Leif:Yes. So we are here to Talk
Leif:about Season 3, Episode 16,
Leif:the Empire Strikes Jack. The
Leif:original air date was, uh, March of, uh,
Leif:2010.
Steve:I feel like there's a familiarity with this title.
Steve:I feel like I recognize this one from somewhere.
Leif:It does sound, obviously, Star wars reference,
Leif:for those that don't know that have been living under a rock for the
Leif:last 40 years.
Danielle Joy:I do love what they do with all the titles, though. Uh, they always make them
Danielle Joy:very clever.
Steve:Yeah. These great movie references
Steve:and always a lot of fun. And Leif
Steve:and I are also big Star wars nerds, too,
Steve:in different capacities. He shook
Steve:his head.
Danielle Joy:I Always wondered if they came up with the
Danielle Joy:titles first and then wrote the story around the
Danielle Joy:title, because it always sort of has to do with what's
Danielle Joy:happening in the show. Or if they wrote the stories and
Danielle Joy:then tried to find a title that would work.
Leif:Well, sometimes the titles really have nothing.
Steve:To do with the show.
Leif:I guess probably sometimes they came up with the titles first, but I know
Leif:for a fact that they definitely came up with them after the fact
Leif:sometimes. Like, for instance,
Leif:the episode before the writers strike in
Leif:season one was the, uh, name of the
Leif:episode was came up with by the crew because the writers
Leif:were already on strike.
Steve:So they name it Thin Line between Chuck and
Steve:Nate. Yes.
Danielle Joy:Okay.
Steve:Yeah. And I was gonna kind of say
Steve:the same thing as Leif. I feel like there's kind of
Steve:a, uh, mix of those things happening. Cause
Steve:sometimes. Sometimes the title feels really
Steve:shoehorned, but other times it feels
Steve:just absolutely appropriate. Personally,
Steve:I like this one.
Leif:I thought it was perfect.
Steve:It was a perfect title.
Danielle Joy:Super appropriate. Yeah. And.
Leif:Ah, we'll get to it. But I thought the final scene actually did kind of mirror
Leif:the final scene of Vampire Strikes Back as well.
Steve:Yeah, yeah, I could see that.
Steve:Uh, it's the opposite. I am your
Steve:father.
Leif:No, no, the actual final scene where Luke, uh, and Leia are
Leif:on the ship.
Steve:Oh, oh, right, yeah.
Danielle Joy:Blair and Chuck.
Leif:Yeah, yeah. This. We got Blair and Chuck declaring war.
Steve:Yeah. Ah, yeah.
Leif:So this episode was written by Jake
Leif:Coburn. He came on as story editor in
Leif:season three, and this is his second chance at writing.
Leif:Uh, previously did episode six, Enough About
Leif:Eve, which was the episode
Leif:where Blair and Vanessa were competing for
Leif:the speech at the freshman dinner.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:And the episodes directed by Joe
Leif:Lazarev previously did O Brother,
Leif:Wer Bart thou and how to succeed in
Leif:Bassness.
Steve:Yeah.
Steve:I like the director's credits more than the writer's
Steve:credits here. I think that
Steve:those are some good, uh. Oh, brother. Where
Steve:Bart. That was a great episode.
Leif:Now, I'm not complaining, but
Leif:I did notice more than the
Leif:usual background, gratuitous,
Leif:nearly nudity in this episode.
Danielle Joy:Well, they had the models.
Leif:Yeah. Anytime you have
Leif:models, they don't really show that,
Leif:like, the girls just walking around in their
Leif:underwear. They don't typically show that on a CW
Leif:show. Yeah, I thought it was definitely noticeable to
Leif:me.
Danielle Joy:Definitely one of the more sexy episodes.
Leif:Yeah.
Steve:There's also this episode. Some of the outdoor
Steve:shots, there were some really
Steve:cinematic. There's some really cinematic
Steve:framing in some of the outdoor shots. In this
Steve:especially, there's one with Chuck in front of
Steve:the bridge. I don't know if it's the Brooklyn Bridge. Uh, but.
Danielle Joy:Yeah, the bridge. Yeah, I think it was the Brooklyn Bridge
Danielle Joy:with his mom. Right.
Steve:Well, it's at. Right after. Well, there's that scene.
Steve:And then right after she leaves when he's on the phone and the
Steve:sun has set and it's just that glow
Steve:behind him. The
Steve:cinematography in this was, ah,
Steve:well done this episode.
Danielle Joy:Yeah. Yeah.
Steve:If only the writing.
Danielle Joy:Yeah, they. They hardly ever filmed
Danielle Joy:outside. Um,
Danielle Joy:I don't want to say that, though. We did film outside a lot.
Danielle Joy:Um, but, yeah, most of the time
Danielle Joy:we were on location or on soundstages.
Danielle Joy:So, uh, yeah, the outdoor shots were always really
Danielle Joy:nice.
Leif:By this time, anytime there was filming outside, there was
Leif:large crowds.
Danielle Joy:Yeah. Yeah.
Steve:Okay. Yeah. And so that makes sense also why
Steve:those shots stood out so much,
Steve:too. That's a really good point.
Leif:Steve, why don't you go ahead and read us that Vulture recap?
Steve:All right, here we go. I believe in
Steve:second chances, Eleanor Waldorf tells the
Steve:delinquent Jenny Humphrey when
Steve:welcoming her back to work in her
Steve:fashion sweatshop. It's an
Steve:interesting choice of phrasing. Second chances are
Steve:something one needs to believe in, since, like
Steve:true love in astrology, some suspension
Steve:of common sense is required. After
Steve:all, most of the time, the result is
Steve:disappointment. If someone doesn't behave
Steve:the way you hope they will the first time around,
Steve:what are the chances they'll completely change?
Steve:In last night's episode, Jenny, despite
Steve:ingesting a large quantity of pharmaceuticals,
Steve:managed to not disappoint Eleanor. At least
Steve:not yet. Chuck Bass, however,
Steve:did not fare so well, even though he knew
Steve:Elizabeth willingly participated in a cruel and
Steve:inhuman plot to rob her estranged son
Steve:of his fortune out of love for a man who
Steve:was not only a blatant jerk, but a
Steve:possessor of the worst hairpiece since
Steve:Sam Donaldson. He gave her the
Steve:chance to rally to his defense or at
Steve:least stick around and mother himself, and was left
Steve:red nostril and quivering. Her failure to
Steve:come through on this front, more than anything she'd
Steve:done so far, should have tipped him off to the
Steve:fact that this stubborn loner was
Steve:indeed his mother.
Steve:Oh, Chuck, here's my
Steve:thing about the Vulture report this week. It
Steve:doesn't even mention the
Steve:Dan Vanessa Trainwreck plot
Steve:going on.
Danielle Joy:Why would you mention it?
Leif:It's just completely pointless. It was a nothing story.
Steve:It was so bad.
Danielle Joy:Oh, uh, it was so bad.
Steve:So Leif and I have a common saying
Steve:about Gossip Girl, and it's that we feel like the
Steve:writers. A lot of Times would be great.
Steve:Writing teachers that they have these
Steve:great tools and great tricks and they
Steve:know the. The right way to do twists and
Steve:right way to put things out. But then the execution
Steve:itself, a lot of the time just kind of
Steve:falls flat. That when it actually comes to the
Steve:words on paper, there's a lot of times that it's like
Steve:you had all of this right here,
Steve:and this is what you went with, you know, and
Steve:Dan and Vanessa is what you went with
Steve:the Rut episode.
Danielle Joy:And I feel like when this show came out, I was in
Danielle Joy:my 20s. Right. And it had such a chokehold
Danielle Joy:on everyone, you know, 18 to 34.
Danielle Joy:And, you know, fashion was inspired and, like, I
Danielle Joy:definitely dressed like Blair Waldorf when the show came out.
Danielle Joy:But, yeah, I, uh, watching it back now,
Danielle Joy:I'm like, wow, these storylines are
Danielle Joy:like, I wouldn't put up with this as
Danielle Joy:a. As a person in the dating world. Like,
Danielle Joy:why did I think that this was so sexy and
Danielle Joy:appropriate back then? But
Danielle Joy:I feel like the actors did such a good job
Danielle Joy:with the words they were given and the
Danielle Joy:script they were given to not make
Danielle Joy:it seem as downer
Danielle Joy:as it was.
Leif:Yes. The actors often carry the show.
Danielle Joy:Yeah. Yeah. They definitely chose the right people for this
Danielle Joy:show.
Steve:Yes. Yeah, yeah. Uh, I really. I think
Steve:Leighton Meester is one of the
Steve:best actors to come from this show, too,
Steve:I thought.
Danielle Joy:Yeah. Her and Pen and Ed are my
Danielle Joy:favorites.
Steve:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Steve:And I also think that Eleanor,
Steve:um, Margaret Collins and, um,
Steve:uh, Kelly Rutherford, I think, are also
Steve:just absolutely spectacular.
Steve:They. They can just own any scene they're
Steve:in, even when they're not trying to. So.
Danielle Joy:Yeah, yeah, I heard. I heard. I was listening
Danielle Joy:to one of your most recent podcasts that just aired, and you
Danielle Joy:were saying how, like, you didn't want the drama between,
Danielle Joy:uh, Lily and Rufus. You're like, save the drama for the
Danielle Joy:kids. Like, I was like, yeah,
Danielle Joy:yeah, it's a teen show.
Leif:We don't care about the parents.
Steve:Yeah. Just let them get along
Steve:already.
Danielle Joy:There are enough kids in the ensemble to have
Danielle Joy:multiple storylines. You don't need the parents in there as
Danielle Joy:well, but the parents make it interesting, too, especially when you get
Danielle Joy:to, um, later seasons with Blair's
Danielle Joy:parents as well. I loved her storylines with her
Danielle Joy:parents, but, yeah.
Leif:Uh, uh, she definitely has the best parental
Leif:unit at this point with four know solid
Leif:parents.
Steve:Yeah. That live in Europe.
Danielle Joy:Yeah.
Steve:That aren't there to ruin her directly the
Steve:way they were.
Danielle Joy:Parents are really there.
Steve:Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, Lily's there for everyone. That's
Steve:not her kids.
Danielle Joy:Yeah, same with Rufus.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah, same with Rufus. Yeah, he's a great dad to
Steve:anyone but Jenny.
Danielle Joy:Yeah. Yeah. Poor Jenny. The
Danielle Joy:only person nice to her is Nate.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah.
Danielle Joy:I was thinking in this episode when we. Well, when we
Danielle Joy:get to it later, but, like, I was thinking he would have been a better brother
Danielle Joy:to her than Dan. Yeah, like, he should have
Danielle Joy:been her brother.
Leif:Now, do you have a favorite and
Leif:or least favorite character?
Danielle Joy:Uh, well, I am very partial
Danielle Joy:to Blair, so her style
Danielle Joy:definitely inspired me the most. I'm very, like, preppy.
Danielle Joy:Um, I actually have my headband.
Leif:Nice. I've got it on the right side, too.
Leif:Uh, you have it on the right side?
Danielle Joy:Uh, so, yeah, I bought this back in Gossip Girl days, and I
Danielle Joy:still have it. I don't really wear headbands that much
Danielle Joy:anymore, but college.
Steve:There's no headbands in college.
Danielle Joy:Blair has a special place, uh, in my heart and also
Danielle Joy:because I was her stand in for multiple years,
Danielle Joy:um, for the last, like, two or three seasons
Danielle Joy:of the show. So. Yeah,
Danielle Joy:that's awesome.
Leif:Well, let's get into the episode. Act one
Leif:begins with a montage of models prepping for a
Leif:fashion show, and Gossip Girl opens the episode.
Leif:They say clothes make the man, but who makes the
Leif:clothes? On the Upper east side, it's Elwin or
Leif:Waldorf. Ah. And we hear her new line is to
Leif:die for.
Leif:So, as we said, we get the, uh, scantily clad
Leif:models walking around and a little
Leif:montage going on. And then Rufus is walking with
Leif:Jenny. We get some exposition about Rufus being
Leif:back moved into Lily's. Much to
Leif:Jenny's surprise, Rufus has also volunteered her
Leif:to assist with Eleanor's latest.
Steve:Fashion show because now he suddenly
Steve:supports her.
Danielle Joy:So I. Like I said, I haven't rewatched the
Danielle Joy:show up until now, and I thought that this
Danielle Joy:episode was the one where Agnes torches the
Danielle Joy:dresses. Obviously, that happened beforehand. Right.
Leif:Because that's now season two.
Danielle Joy:Yeah. Yeah. Um, I don't know why I had that mixed up in
Danielle Joy:my brain, but. So what
Danielle Joy:happened with Jenny and Eleanor that
Danielle Joy:she would need to give her a second chance?
Leif:Or Jenny quit
Leif:and took her dress that she had, like, let
Leif:Eleanor take the credit for.
Danielle Joy:Uh, okay, right, right, right.
Steve:And then went off and went to.
Leif:Start the fashion line with Agnes. Yeah.
Danielle Joy:Gotcha. Okay. And then Agnes finished all the dresses,
Danielle Joy:right?
Steve:Yeah, Yeah.
Leif:I mean, you rip it on Rufus, but this is actually one of his best
Leif:parenting episodes for Jenny, I would say it really.
Steve:It honestly is like, uh, honestly, this.
Leif:Was a great thing. This is a great thing for him to do.
Steve:He should have done this two years ago. Yeah,
Steve:exactly. Like, years ago when she's like, I want to go work for
Steve:her. Like. Okay, cool.
Danielle Joy:Is he friends with Eleanor?
Steve:No.
Leif:He'S friendly. I mean, he's been to dinner parties at her house
Leif:a few times.
Steve:Yeah, he has. And now he also is
Steve:married into money, so.
Danielle Joy:Yeah, right. He married Lily.
Steve:Yeah. He's in the Upper east side now, so
Steve:everyone knows who he is now.
Danielle Joy:Yeah. You can call in a favor to Eleanor Waldorf,
Danielle Joy:apparently.
Steve:Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Now that he's a token
Steve:husband. Now that he's Lily's
Steve:token.
Leif:Well, if you ever see the duo. He tried to get Eleanor to
Leif:fire Jenny.
Danielle Joy:Yeah, Yeah. I just. I
Danielle Joy:didn't. I was like, how did he. How did he have this
Danielle Joy:relationship with Eleanor to call in a
Danielle Joy:favor? It's like, maybe Lily did it. I
Danielle Joy:don't know.
Leif:Yeah, I mean, they've met a few times. They had dinner. Uh, he's been
Leif:to dinner at her house at least twice.
Danielle Joy:Okay, but enough to, like, call in a favor?
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Well, I mean, it is free labor.
Danielle Joy:That's true. That's true. And. Yeah, but as, like, a second
Danielle Joy:chance, too.
Steve:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:She already messed up, so. I don't know. I don't know.
Danielle Joy:I thought that was. That was weird. I forgot what had happened, but I was like,
Danielle Joy:does he know her?
Steve:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:So Jenny and Rufus enter the Waldorf penthouse, and
Leif:Jenny is immediately remembers her love of this world, and
Leif:she sees all the, you know, prep going on, uh, everything
Leif:moving around, hubbub bubble. For the prep for the
Leif:show.
Steve:Yeah. I was really excited for a
Steve:fashion show episode. Uh, the last one was
Steve:fun. Also, it's because you have
Steve:Eleanor, and like I said earlier, she's one
Steve:of my favorite actors on the show, and her
Steve:storylines always just make
Steve:me feel something.
Danielle Joy:Yeah, I love Eleanor Wildorf, too. Yeah. I also
Danielle Joy:thought it was interesting that they're prepping at
Danielle Joy:the Waldorf penthouse.
Steve:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:Doesn't she have an atelier somewhere that
Danielle Joy:she could be getting her models or an office that
Danielle Joy:she should be using? Why?
Leif:I guess that scent was being used for something else.
Danielle Joy:Yeah.
Leif:Clearly that day,
Leif:Chuck and Blair are saying their morning goodbyes as they
Leif:go about their respective days. The two still
Leif:haven't uncovered Jack's plan. But as
Leif:Blair leaves, two large security guards arrive and tell
Leif:Chuck they're there to escort him off the
Leif:premises.
Danielle Joy:Poor Chuck. Poor
Danielle Joy:Blair with the hat in that scene.
Leif:I kind of like that gray outfit. The gray outfit, though.
Steve:Remember that?
Danielle Joy:Yeah, the hat.
Steve:Remember that? Total Stranger that said she's my mom that a DNA
Steve:test says she probably is, that I trust completely.
Steve:That's still a good idea, right?
Danielle Joy:So, yeah, so I hadn't. Again, I hadn't watched the episode previous to
Danielle Joy:this, but. So Chuck signed
Danielle Joy:over his hotel to a
Danielle Joy:woman that he just met
Danielle Joy:based off of the results of the DNA test that he
Danielle Joy:didn't have control over.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Even if the DNA test is true, he still doesn't
Leif:know her.
Danielle Joy:Exactly. Exactly. Yeah.
Leif:This is someone who abandoned him for his whole life.
Danielle Joy:Yeah. 18 years or whatever. Yeah,
Danielle Joy:yeah, yeah. Chuck, come on. You're smart.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:Apparently not.
Steve:It was. Yeah, apparently not. Apparently,
Steve:Chuck just needs a mom so bad.
Danielle Joy:Yeah.
Steve:So badly.
Leif:Lily, Hello.
Steve:Yeah, like, oh, no, I can't ask my
Steve:dad's company that definitely would not want to see me
Steve:fail. Help me out. Like, come on, dude,
Steve:drop the ego.
Danielle Joy:Yeah. That was an interesting plot point
Danielle Joy:in the show. I mean, obviously it has to
Danielle Joy:happen for what happens at the end of the show, but, like,
Danielle Joy:why would you do that, Chuck? You're so smart.
Danielle Joy:Chuck and Blair are such schemers that I feel like he would
Danielle Joy:have thought this through a little bit more and talk
Danielle Joy:to Blair about it, too. I don't know if he did, but.
Leif:I feel like Blair is actually the one who, like, really pushed him into
Leif:it. They set that
Leif:foreshadowing up big that it was, you know. Oh,
Leif:uh, I was the one who pushed you into it. I was the one
Leif:that gave you the strength to do it.
Steve:This whole episode, I was waiting for
Steve:Chuck to turn on Blair,
Steve:and he never did, because I was waiting for him to be like, and
Steve:you.
Danielle Joy:Yeah. I'm surprised she would counsel
Danielle Joy:him to do that. That's. So have a relationship with
Danielle Joy:your mom. Yes. But sign over the rights to your hotel.
Danielle Joy:No.
Steve:Claire is really quick to give really bad advice, though.
Steve:She is. Because SHU will be like, oh, maybe you shouldn't trust
Steve:her. And then the second that she meets somebody, she's like,
Steve:oh, no, I buy it completely.
Danielle Joy:Yeah.
Steve:She did the same thing with Trip and Serena. When
Steve:Trip was. She was like, oh, no, he must really actually
Steve:love you. You should go on a trip with this congressman
Steve:who's married to someone else.
Danielle Joy:Yeah. And she also takes her own bad advice a lot,
Danielle Joy:too.
Steve:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:Yeah. But she's so smart, too, and they scheme, and when they have
Danielle Joy:plots, they, like, work out and. Yeah.
Steve:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:Just not very good advice givers, apparently.
Leif:Jenny apologizes to Eleanor, and the two
Leif:make nice. However, Jenny is shocked to find out that
Leif:she is the not the only one getting a second chance.
Leif:Jenny's former business partner, Agnes is also in the
Leif:show.
Steve:Yeah. This train wreck is back.
Danielle Joy:Why is Agnes there?
Steve:This is not. She is not a
Steve:character we needed more of
Steve:to begin with.
Danielle Joy:She's an interesting character in the sense
Danielle Joy:that she creates drama. Right, right,
Danielle Joy:right. And that's a wild show. But, like,
Danielle Joy:the reasoning as to why she's there is very
Danielle Joy:confusing. Like, you're just given
Danielle Joy:second chances to everyone today, Eleanor.
Steve:Yeah. And her beef with Jenny is
Steve:also kind of like, where is this really coming
Steve:from?
Danielle Joy:Yeah, you ended. They buried the
Danielle Joy:hatchet. And then she's like, huh? Haha. Just
Danielle Joy:kidding.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah, just kidding. Because
Steve:you burnt. I burnt your dresses, and I'm still mad about
Steve:it.
Leif:Well, I think she got mad is because Eleanor was
Leif:giving her more than a second chance.
Leif:Jenny. That is.
Steve:Yeah. You think? Jealousy. Yeah.
Danielle Joy:Yeah. Because Agnes says later on, she said something about,
Danielle Joy:like, I was gonna have my own fashion line, and you ruined
Danielle Joy:it. But, like, Agnes, you're here with
Danielle Joy:Eleanor. You just made nice with Jenny. Someone else who can
Danielle Joy:help you with your career. Why are you trying to destroy that?
Danielle Joy:Yeah, Jenny was, uh, willing to give you a second chance as
Danielle Joy:well. Like, you completely destroyed that. And then the
Danielle Joy:blonde girl that. Who
Danielle Joy:was that?
Leif:That was Noah. This is the first time we ever seen her.
Danielle Joy:Who's that?
Steve:Y.
Leif:But for some reason, she also hates Jenny. Yeah.
Danielle Joy:Uh, yeah, apparently. Why does everyone hate Jenny?
Danielle Joy:I was like, wait, did I miss something? I don't remember her.
Steve:Nope, you did not miss anything.
Steve:Nothing that we all didn't miss.
Leif:Dan and Vanessa are riding the elevator to Lily's
Leif:penthouse, anxious about telling the family about them dating.
Leif:However, their fear was needless, as everyone already knows.
Leif:Rufus and Serena congratulate Dan and Vanessa because, of course.
Leif:Course, Nate spilled the beans.
Leif:Never tell Nate a secret.
Steve:Oh, no, never. And I hate this
Steve:whole. This whole Dan Vanessa story.
Steve:They had that hot kiss at one point
Steve:behind the photo, uh, thing. The photo
Steve:booth. And other than that, it has just been,
Steve:first of all, like, let's just open up a book of
Steve:tropes and see what we can do with
Steve:these best friends now dating. Like, let's just watch
Steve:Friends and then write
Steve:this whole storyline. Oh, we
Steve:gotta hide it from people. And this is where we're friends. And this is where
Steve:we're not. Oh. And now we're in a rut after dating for
Steve:five minutes, and it's like, shut up.
Leif:The only thing I could think is they were trying to kind of
Leif:balance the deep, like, the
Leif:Darkness of the Chuck storyline with something a little
Leif:bit funny, but it just didn't land.
Danielle Joy:Yeah, funny and heartwarming at the end, but,
Danielle Joy:yeah, the whole damn Vanessa storyline. Um, in this
Danielle Joy:episode, I was. This is when I was like, what are they
Danielle Joy:doing? Like, if I were in this relationship, I would.
Danielle Joy:First of all, I would not be listening to Serena's advice.
Danielle Joy:No, you know, she didn't. She didn't really give advice. She just sort of,
Danielle Joy:like, planted a little seed in Vanessa's head about being in
Danielle Joy:a rut. And Vanessa's like, oh, my God, we are in a rut. And I
Danielle Joy:was like, serena, shut up.
Leif:Like, yeah, first of all,
Leif:you know, Sarina and Nate weren't ever really
Leif:friends. They're friend adjacent.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:But they weren't hanging out, watching movies together and,
Leif:you know, having deep conversations into the night.
Steve:The most friendly thing. The most friendly thing
Steve:they've actually done together is Serena
Steve:covering for Nate's affair
Steve:with a married woman. Yeah.
Danielle Joy:But also, like, Nate's been obsessed with Serena since the
Danielle Joy:beginning.
Steve:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:So it's not. It's not like they were ever just friends. He's always
Danielle Joy:had the hots for her.
Steve:Exactly.
Leif:And she's always had the hots for him, too.
Danielle Joy:Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Yeah, she did. Yeah.
Leif:Per Lily.
Danielle Joy:Her and Lilial.
Leif:No, Pearl, per Lily. She said, like. Like in
Leif:the. Like the first or second episode, she's like, oh, she's, like,
Leif:talking to Nate. She's like, uh, oh, I think my daughter's always had a crush on you.
Steve:Yeah, I remember that.
Danielle Joy:The reason that. That Nate's so obsessed with her
Danielle Joy:is because they hooked up while he was dating Blair.
Steve:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:That's episode one, isn't it?
Steve:Yes. And either episode one or
Steve:two, the first time we see Lily interact with
Steve:Nate, she says something to him in front of
Steve:Dan, too, I think. Right. I think Nate and Dan are
Steve:in the lobby.
Leif:Yeah. But I think. I don't think, uh, she knew Dan was there. Dan was just
Leif:kind of sitting there.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:She was talking to Nate.
Danielle Joy:Dan was Joe Goldberg hanging,
Danielle Joy:preparing for his role in you.
Leif:Shot on the same soundstages.
Danielle Joy:But yeah. She says something to Vanessa like,
Danielle Joy:oh, we always try and mix things up, and we don't want
Danielle Joy:it to ever get stale or something. And Vanessa's like,
Danielle Joy:hm, I should do that. And
Danielle Joy:then. Yeah. And then I'll talk about it when we get to that
Danielle Joy:scene. But, like, oh, my God, why are you. Like, why
Danielle Joy:did that get into your head?
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Eleanor explains to Blair how she is trying to lure
Leif:a Walmart analog to carry her new line.
Leif:Shots are fired at Bristol Palin as Blair clearly
Leif:looks down on the retail chain. However,
Leif:Eleanor insists that Blair bring her normal college
Leif:friends to the party to impress Mr.
Leif:Conwell on how down to earth the
Leif:Waldorfs are. Dorota wonders what Blair will
Leif:do as she has no friends, only second rate
Leif:minions.
Danielle Joy:I love Dorota. Love, love, love Dorota.
Steve:Yeah. And apparently, Dorota's baby kicks out
Steve:of time. And sloppily, because
Steve:she kicks like Lars Zolrick from Metallica.
Leif:Shots fired.
Steve:Shots fired.
Danielle Joy:I love how Blair goes down the region. She's like, what about Sax
Danielle Joy:or Bloomingdale's? Like,
Danielle Joy:Bloomingdale's a four or so.
Steve:And just her face when her mom says
Steve:Cornwalls or Cornwalls. And she just
Steve:blank, like, are you kidding me?
Danielle Joy:Yeah, but, mom. Um, no.
Leif:A distraught Elizabeth bursts into Chuck's
Leif:suite to apologize for forcing Chuck to leave.
Leif:Jack is close behind her and points out how he
Leif:masterminded the whole thing and the empire is
Leif:now his. A heartbroken Chuck stares
Leif:down Elizabeth as he walks out under his own
Leif:power. Poor Chuck.
Steve:Ugh.
Leif:But he brought it on himself.
Steve:And I sat there, and I was like, oh, Jack must have something
Steve:on her.
Danielle Joy:Me too. Yes. I was like, what does he have
Danielle Joy:on her?
Steve:And as we were saying, here you have the writers with
Steve:this great setup. He has some kind of
Steve:really great dirt on her. No, no.
Steve:Just. Just. The woman can't help herself around
Steve:the man that she's in love with.
Danielle Joy:The brother of her. Of her dad.
Steve:Yeah. Of her dead, not husband.
Danielle Joy:Yeah. Uh, like
Danielle Joy:you were in love with both brothers. I don't.
Steve:Like, uh.
Steve:Oh, my God, the worst.
Danielle Joy:But she seemed distraught. But, like, if she was really
Danielle Joy:distraught, she wouldn't have done it.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Yeah. It's so weird.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:And as Chuck points out later, it, uh, completely
Leif:doesn't make sense, because why would you love someone that would
Leif:do so?
Steve:Like. Yeah. Why would you. Hey,
Steve:I love you so much. You know, it would be great if
Steve:we. A great way for us to bond. Let's
Steve:completely fuck over your estranged son that
Steve:thinks you're dead. That'll bring us together,
Steve:spark up the romance, get us out of a rut.
Danielle Joy:Yeah. It's all about ruts today, isn't it?
Steve:This is a run episode. This was. This was
Steve:their way.
Danielle Joy:But she comes in, she's like, I'm so, uh, sorry, Chuck. And then Jack's
Danielle Joy:like, I mastermind the whole thing. And I was like, you're in Love with
Danielle Joy:that. He's literally being a complete
Danielle Joy:asshole. Yeah, like you're saying I'm
Danielle Joy:sorry and he's saying, hahaha.
Danielle Joy:Clearly you made the wrong choice.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:And Gossip Girl takes us into the first commercial break
Leif:with.
Leif:We hear Chuck's hotel is hanging on by a thread and
Leif:Jack's pulling all the strings.
Danielle Joy:You're so clever, Gossip Girl. So clever.
Leif:Act two begins. Vanessa and Serena are at
Leif:the buffet line discussing how they are both in new
Leif:relationships with lifetime friends. Serena
Leif:unintentionally causes Vanessa to become self conscious about her and
Leif:Dan doing the same things they have always done. Dan
Leif:comes in and talks about their Saturday tradition, which
Leif:just causes Vanessa to get even further inside her
Leif:head.
Steve:So fucking dumb.
Danielle Joy:Yeah, so this was one of those lines that I was,
Danielle Joy:I was mentioning before about how the
Danielle Joy:acting really helps the scene
Danielle Joy:because. Or the story, because I
Danielle Joy:completely believed that Serena did not mean
Danielle Joy:any harm by saying these lines.
Danielle Joy:Whereas like, in any other situation you might
Danielle Joy:think that she was competing with Vanessa and being like, oh, you
Danielle Joy:guys are in a rut. Like, uh, you need to spice it up.
Danielle Joy:But she just like mentions it offhandedly. And
Danielle Joy:I completely believe that she wasn't trying to do anything
Danielle Joy:bad to Vanessa. And I thought that that was really
Danielle Joy:good because the writing was very much like a competition.
Danielle Joy:So yeah, this is one of those lines where I thought that the, the acting
Danielle Joy:definitely helped steer the story in the right
Danielle Joy:direction.
Steve:Yeah, that's a really good point.
Leif:Jenny is trying to get Agnes fitted, who is not
Leif:being very helpful. Jenny apologizes to Agnes
Leif:and the two make up. Jenny gets a text from
Leif:Damian looking for his drugs and Jenny explains the
Leif:situation to Agnes. Agnes comes up with a plan to
Leif:get revenge on Damian.
Steve:First of all, why are you apologizing to
Steve:Agnes? Yeah, uh, she's the
Steve:one who was torching
Steve:your entire plan in front
Steve:of every investor you went to and
Steve:then literally torched all of your work.
Steve:And then you're like, I'm sorry that I stopped inviting you to
Steve:the meetings that you kept blowing up.
Danielle Joy:Yeah, yeah, I
Danielle Joy:just.
Steve:Ugh.
Danielle Joy:Uh, I don't know why I'm friends with
Danielle Joy:Agnes. Like, I can understand her wanting to be friends
Danielle Joy:with Blair and Serena, but like, Agnes literally
Danielle Joy:has no social clout that Jenny would
Danielle Joy:want to have.
Steve:Yeah, yeah. And why
Steve:are you already. You've just made up
Steve:with for five minutes and you're telling her about your
Steve:drug dealing ex boyfriend
Steve:and exhaust. Yeah, yeah.
Danielle Joy:And also Agnes says, oh, let's get
Danielle Joy:revenge on Damian. How?
Danielle Joy:When? What, what was the Plan.
Danielle Joy:She just said, come meet us at the show.
Leif:Yeah, they're gonna show. They're gonna, like, show up the drugs and then flush them down
Leif:the toilet.
Danielle Joy:Right. Which also was like, that's gonna be a
Danielle Joy:huge. Like, he's gonna. He's gonna be mad. That's
Danielle Joy:not revenge.
Leif:Well, I think that was, uh, Agnes's whole. She
Leif:wants chaos. She just wants chaos.
Danielle Joy:Yeah. But Jenny. Jenny should realize that, like, it's just gonna be
Danielle Joy:chaos. Flushing the. She does
Danielle Joy:is like, torching the dresses. Like, it's not gonna be good.
Steve:Right? Yeah.
Leif:So we have talked in recent episodes how Jenny
Leif:definitely does need friends. She doesn't really
Leif:have any friends. So that part I can kind of
Leif:buy. Kind of bending over backwards to get her friend
Leif:back.
Danielle Joy:Mm, that's true. Yeah. Uh, but why that
Danielle Joy:friend?
Steve:Yeah. Yeah.
Danielle Joy:And then who's the one girl that hates her?
Steve:Go find Eric.
Danielle Joy:Go find Eric. I know her and Eric are really good friends.
Leif:Yeah, he's off, um, on Long island
Leif:getting revenge.
Danielle Joy:Yes. That was
Danielle Joy:also a really good show. You should do that after this one.
Steve:Which one was that?
Leif:Revenge.
Danielle Joy:Revenge.
Steve:Mhm.
Leif:Vanessa goes to Serena to ask for advice on how to
Leif:spice things up unsolicited. Nate
Leif:suggests two words, roleplay. Serena
Leif:then suggests a themed date based on one of
Leif:Dan's favorite films.
Steve:This kind of goes back to what you were saying about
Steve:Serena, how that first scene was kind of
Steve:written almost competitively
Steve:or could have been very easily, a
Steve:very catty kind of
Steve:interaction. And here you have Serena once again,
Steve:full blown, like, hey, here's something
Steve:that you could do that Dan would probably like.
Danielle Joy:Yeah.
Leif:Well, this seemed to very much reminded me
Leif:of season one with the opposite with
Leif:Serena, uh, going to Vanessa asking for advice on
Leif:Dan's gift.
Steve:Oh, right. In season one.
Danielle Joy:Yeah. It's like, does Vanessa know him better or
Danielle Joy:does Serena know him better?
Steve:Well, and that's funny because it's Vanessa knows
Steve:him as a friend and all the friend stuff to
Steve:do. But Serena knows him romantically.
Danielle Joy:Yeah.
Steve:So it is kind of different worlds that they're
Steve:approaching it from.
Danielle Joy:But again, this scene too. Like, I didn't feel like
Danielle Joy:Serena was again competing or
Danielle Joy:showing up Vanessa. Like, I know what he wants.
Danielle Joy:Like, it just felt very helpful. It felt very
Danielle Joy:sincere.
Steve:Yeah. And genuine and
Steve:friendly.
Danielle Joy:Yeah.
Leif:Eleanor is impressed by Jenny's work and tells her that
Leif:after the show they should talk about fighting Jenny a permanent
Leif:position. One of the other assistants, Callie,
Leif:shows up with Damian's pills retrieved from Jenny's
Leif:dresser. Agnes is excited to get her chaos.
Leif:Binge. On. But after Eleanor's praise,
Leif:Jenny is having second thoughts on blowing things up.
Leif:Smart choice, Jenny.
Danielle Joy:Smart, smart, smart, smart.
Steve:Callie has a name.
Danielle Joy:I know. I was like, who?
Steve:Okay, can we talk about her for a second?
Steve:This person shows up out of
Steve:fucking nowhere. She is
Steve:nowhere in this show. Then one day shows up.
Steve:First of all, here are the pills exactly where you told me
Steve:they were. Jenny and I put them in this clutch.
Steve:You told this stranger where to
Steve:find your drug stash?
Danielle Joy:She's a named character. All right? She's
Danielle Joy:clearly friends with Jenny.
Steve:They must have history.
Leif:I did have to go with the IMDb to find her name.
Danielle Joy:Well, good for her. Good for that actress. I mean,
Danielle Joy:she got a big part in this episode.
Steve:Yeah, she did great.
Steve:It's just.
Danielle Joy:Well, uh, that was not me.
Steve:Elsa would where your drug
Steve:stash is.
Danielle Joy:But also, like, give them the keys to your apartment
Danielle Joy:and tell them where your drug stash is and,
Danielle Joy:um, then put them in my club. Like.
Steve:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:And does she really have time to go run all the
Danielle Joy:way to Brooklyn and then come back to the Upper east side?
Leif:Well, that would be at, ah, Lily's.
Danielle Joy:Oh, they were at Lily's.
Leif:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:Oh, they're at Lily's. But still, yeah.
Leif:Nate and Serena arrive at the bar to meet Chuck and Blair.
Leif:Chuck explains the whole Jack Bass Empire takeover
Leif:plot. Chuck's big plan is to get Elizabeth
Leif:alone so he can appeal to her as a son to his mother.
Leif:Chuck leaves to do just that. And Serena and
Leif:Nate, uh, express their doubts on the validity of the
Leif:DNA test, but Blair asks them to hold off.
Leif:The running joke of Blair having no friends
Leif:continues.
Danielle Joy:Why are they at a bar?
Leif:Because they're always at a bar.
Leif:Chuck's depressed. He needs to drink. He needs some whiskey.
Danielle Joy:He wasn't there, was he?
Leif:He was there at the beginning of the scene.
Steve:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:Oh, was he? Okay, sorry, my bad.
Steve:Well, to that point, this whole
Steve:scene could have been a text. Yeah,
Steve:Yeah. M. Hey, guys. This is what's going
Steve:down with Jack. But no,
Steve:it's like, meet me at this bar so I can tell you what's going on with
Steve:Jack.
Danielle Joy:Yeah,
Danielle Joy:the way that they zip around the city. It just is.
Danielle Joy:They get from movies so quickly.
Danielle Joy:Um, but they plant this seed about
Danielle Joy:the DNA test being faked, and
Danielle Joy:I'm like, oh, how's this going to play out? That's interesting.
Steve:Mhm.
Danielle Joy:We'll talk about that later.
Leif:At nyu, Dorota finds Blair's
Leif:air quote friend Brandeis and asks her
Leif:about her hourly. Right. And if she has around
Leif:3:30 more friends just like her.
Steve:It was interesting how much the Columbia dorm
Steve:looked like Dan's. Outside of Dan's
Steve:dorm where he met Melissa.
Leif:No, that is the NYU dorm.
Danielle Joy:That's the NYU dorms? Yeah.
Leif:I thought. I want you.
Steve:Why was Brandeis at nyu?
Leif:She's at nyu.
Danielle Joy:That's where Blair is.
Steve:I thought Brandeis was Columbia.
Leif:No, those two girls that we
Leif:just meet this episode are from Columbia.
Danielle Joy:Yeah. Where did Blair meet Brandeis again?
Leif:At the NYU coffee shop.
Steve:Yeah, but I didn't think Brandeis went to nyu.
Leif:She did.
Danielle Joy:Have you watched ahead, Steve? Have you
Danielle Joy:watched more episodes than you're supposed to?
Steve:No, no, absolutely not.
Steve:Not since the very. The first four episodes.
Steve:I started binging. It was like. You do not get the concept
Steve:of this show, do you?
Steve:And, uh, now my poor wife.
Danielle Joy:Maybe you're getting Brandeis confused with Callie because
Danielle Joy:they're such important characters.
Steve:Yeah, that must be it.
Steve:Callie goes to Columbia, right?
Danielle Joy:Maybe. Sure.
Danielle Joy:She's a working girl, so she's out of. Well, wait,
Danielle Joy:Brandeis is the working girl.
Steve:Brandeis is the.
Danielle Joy:But, yeah, Callie's got a job, so maybe she's, uh.
Danielle Joy:Maybe she's out of college. I don't know. Who cares about Callie?
Steve:Who cares about Callie?
Danielle Joy:That's what the name of this episode should have been.
Leif:Back at the Waldorf penthouse, Jenny leaves the room to
Leif:wheel out a rack of garment bags with Callie
Leif:and foolishly trusts Agnes to watch her purse.
Leif:We, as the audience, see Callie give Agnes a sly
Leif:smile as she leads Jenny out of the room.
Leif:Agnes immediately goes for the purse and takes the
Leif:pills.
Danielle Joy:Like, why would you. Why,
Danielle Joy:Jenny?
Leif:Yeah.
Steve:Why are you still trusting this person?
Danielle Joy:She's still trusting. Yeah.
Steve:Oh, hey, watch my stuff, okay. Yeah,
Steve:watch my stuff with all the drugs in it.
Danielle Joy:It wasn't even that, like, she was about to take her stuff, and Agnes was
Danielle Joy:like, oh, I'll watch it.
Steve:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Danielle Joy:And I was like. But there's like, what
Danielle Joy:if she gets. What if she gets called away? What if Eleanor needs her to try
Danielle Joy:out another outfit? Like, what? Like, take your bag.
Steve:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:And also, what if Eleanor comes by and just, like, happens
Danielle Joy:to, like, what if Agnes is in the bathroom and
Danielle Joy:Eleanor sees it or spills or someone bumps into it, et
Danielle Joy:cetera, et cetera. Anyway, yeah, it's like, this was.
Leif:In the comic book world. There's a popular phrase called
Leif:plot induced stupidity.
Danielle Joy:100%. Yes,
Danielle Joy:I know. I find this with a lot of shows where I'm just like,
Danielle Joy:if they just sent a text message or if they just
Danielle Joy:clarified something really quickly. Or if
Danielle Joy:someone asked for clarification, none of this would have happened.
Danielle Joy:And yeah, m. The plot definitely relies
Danielle Joy:on plot induced stupidity.
Steve:Yeah. Especially for a character like
Steve:Jenny, who's not stupid. Yeah, Jenny
Steve:isn't stupid. Trusting sometimes,
Steve:but not stupid.
Danielle Joy:Yeah, this was definitely a case of her being trusting
Danielle Joy:to someone she just made up with 20 seconds
Danielle Joy:ago.
Leif:Gossip Girl takes us into the next break with.
Leif:Careful Jay. The show's about to start, and it
Leif:looks like Eleanor's line is going to bring the whole new
Leif:meaning to high fashion.
Leif:Act three begins. At the fashion show. Blair is
Leif:telling Serena to leave the Chuck situation alone.
Leif:Serena is surprised to see Brandis at that
Leif:event, but Blair points out Brandis's target, Mr.
Leif:Conwell. The ladies are closed for
Leif:business, but are just acting as normal college students.
Leif:When Serena becomes incredulous, Blair points out
Leif:that prostitutes are people too and have a lot of
Leif:disposable income.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:So this is where I begin to question a few
Leif:episodes. Blair got in good with the
Leif:Tisch kids. She couldn't just, like, hire
Leif:some actors? Actors?
Danielle Joy:They would have been way cheaper than $300 an hour. Yeah,
Danielle Joy:they would have done it for free.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Performance art feat. Don't worry about it.
Danielle Joy:Performance art. Yeah. Oh,
Danielle Joy:man. Well, I'll let you know that a lot of those kids there
Danielle Joy:probably were from Tish the Bell.
Steve:That's funny.
Leif:Yes.
Leif:Not surprising. In Brooklyn, a
Leif:napping Dan is awakened by a kiss from Vanessa
Leif:in full Rear Window cosplay.
Steve:Oh, Christ. Vanessa.
Danielle Joy:So they left
Danielle Joy:Lily's, and he was like, see you at 6.
Danielle Joy:And she was like, maybe 6:30. And then he's
Danielle Joy:asleep in a chair. What time is it? Like,
Danielle Joy:how late was she? And how did she have time
Danielle Joy:to do that whole makeup and hair, get up? And
Danielle Joy:did she do it at the apartment? Did he fall asleep waiting for her to get
Danielle Joy:dressed? Did she ride the subway looking like that?
Steve:Set that whole table in silence?
Leif:Yeah. While he was sleeping.
Steve:While he's sleeping uncomfortably in a
Steve:chair 10ft away.
Danielle Joy:She drugged him. She absolutely drugged him
Danielle Joy:with Jenny's pills. Uh,
Danielle Joy:but, yeah, that was an interesting choice. And he
Danielle Joy:didn't seem super into it, did he?
Leif:Yeah, he was like, yeah, I don't really like shellfish.
Danielle Joy:Well, she said she was gonna make, like, a yummy
Danielle Joy:noodle dish. Like, why didn't he. Why didn't she just make
Danielle Joy:that. Does. Is shellfish part of Rear Window?
Leif:Yeah, it was like a whole. Like, it was the whole recreation of the whole
Leif:scene.
Danielle Joy:Oh, okay.
Leif:Yeah. Uh, at the Show Jenny catches
Leif:Agnes visibly distributing Damien's pills to the
Leif:models. Jenny tries to shut it down, but Agnes
Leif:blackmails her into keeping quiet. Jenny tries to
Leif:tell Eleanor anyways, but it's too late. The show's about
Leif:to start. Agnes and Callie still are
Leif:plotting to take Jenny down.
Danielle Joy:And, like, what was Jenny going
Danielle Joy:hoping to do by telling
Danielle Joy:Eleanor? Because the models were
Danielle Joy:absolutely fine. Like, it didn't ruin
Danielle Joy:the show at all.
Leif:Yeah, they probably have a decent tolerance buildup.
Danielle Joy:Yeah.
Steve:Especially to that point. Agnes, uh,
Steve:is just handing out these pills to these models and
Steve:the models are like, cool pills.
Danielle Joy:Yeah.
Steve:Oh, all right. Sweet. No one's one of these.
Leif:I don't care.
Steve:Yeah. What is this? Is this Tylenol? Is it
Steve:Necstasy? It's just. Oh, okay. I'm just gonna.
Steve:Thanks for the random pills.
Danielle Joy:Yeah. And she has no idea what the pills are. There were multiple different
Danielle Joy:ones, multiple different colors and different sizes. Which ones are she
Danielle Joy:giving out? Uh. And what is that gonna do to the
Danielle Joy:models? And then apparently nothing.
Steve:And who lost their cholesterol medicine for them to get
Steve:this stash now? Because the last time they
Steve:had a stash, it was just stuff they stole from Lily.
Leif:Thanks to some loyal employees. Chuck gets his one on
Leif:one meeting with Elizabeth. Chuck gets his answer on
Leif:why she helped Jack, and it's because she loves
Leif:him. Chuck himself exposes the
Leif:flawed writing of the storyline when he asks,
Leif:what kind of person would convince you to
Leif:do this to me?
Danielle Joy:That was a great show.
Leif:Elizabeth tells Chuck that was a great show that she isn't really his
Leif:mother.
Steve:Are you fucking serious?
Steve:My love for the man is just too
Steve:strong to be a good person.
Steve:I hated this. Like, that's
Steve:what you have on her.
Danielle Joy:That's what he has on her. Uh, and also, like, what?
Danielle Joy:Like, why? Why does the woman have to be the weak one?
Danielle Joy:There could have been so many reasons as to why
Danielle Joy:she was like, uh, listen, I don't know
Danielle Joy:you, you don't know me. I'm just a horrible person.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:I killed someone in Jack.
Danielle Joy:I left you once, I'm going to leave you again. Like, what did you expect?
Danielle Joy:But no, it's because she was in love with your dad's
Danielle Joy:brother.
Steve:Yeah. Your dead dad's brother.
Leif:I mean, make it about money. Like Chuck thought.
Steve:Yeah, like anything.
Steve:And again, it goes back to the
Steve:setup the writers had and the
Steve:turn they took. It's like.
Steve:And also him. Yeah,
Steve:him.
Danielle Joy:Hm. I know. Yeah. Uh, but Chuck's
Danielle Joy:acting in this scene I thought was really good in terms
Danielle Joy:of, like, you don't really get a lot of
Danielle Joy:emotional crying scenes in Gossip Girl. It's a lot
Danielle Joy:more betrayal. I mean, this was betrayal as well, but this
Danielle Joy:was also seeded and rooted in the fact that this
Danielle Joy:was his mother. It wasn't just like, a friend of his. Like, this was someone
Danielle Joy:he's been wanting to meet and be with and have a relationship with
Danielle Joy:his entire life. Um, so his acting in this scene
Danielle Joy:I thought was amazing and heartbreaking.
Leif:I did think, uh, Ed's acting was much better in
Leif:this episode than the past few episodes where he was kind of
Leif:phoning it in. But
Leif:yeah, he did do a good job in this episode.
Leif:Deadmau5 is deejaying the fashion show.
Leif:Serena tells Nate about Blair's hired friends.
Leif:Nate gets a call from Chuck, who tells Nate the
Leif:Empire is gone. Unfortunately,
Leif:Nate has a, uh, plan.
Steve:Nate. Aw, are you
Steve:thinking?
Leif:So I realized this morning when doing my notes,
Leif:Nate is basically Tommy boy.
Leif:He's got a rich family. Most people
Leif:like him. Um, he's a likable guy. He likes to party,
Leif:and he's not that smart.
Steve:Yeah, he's gonna be in college for seven
Steve:years. Yes. Lots of people go to
Steve:college for seven years. Yeah, they're called
Steve:doctors. Um,
Steve:this was also the scene with that shot of the Brooklyn
Steve:Bridge behind Chuck when he
Steve:calls Nate and. Yeah, I loved that
Steve:shot.
Danielle Joy:Mhm.
Steve:Yeah. Oh, Nate, don't do the thinking.
Steve:Um, we have Blair to thank.
Danielle Joy:Yes. And Serena tries to
Danielle Joy:formulate a plan with him too. And I was just like, this is. What are you guys
Danielle Joy:doing? You're not.
Steve:And Serena, you can't create a plan that doesn't
Steve:involve yourself as some kind of honeypot. Like, you
Steve:only know one way to scheme.
Danielle Joy:Yeah.
Steve:It's to throw yourself at somebody who's not interested.
Danielle Joy:Poor Serena.
Steve:Poor Serena. I keep saying that I just
Steve:want someone to handcuff Serena and
Steve:Nate together so they can't see any other pretty
Steve:shiny objects and just stay together
Steve:at all times because they're the perfect couple.
Danielle Joy:Yeah, I like how you call them golden retriever couple
Danielle Joy:as well.
Steve:Yes, they're our golden retrievers.
Danielle Joy:They are golden retrievers.
Steve:They'll go for the. Yeah.
Danielle Joy:They really are the perfect couple.
Steve:Uh, yeah. I love them together so
Steve:much. But again, handcuff them together. Don't
Steve:let them see any shiny
Steve:other object.
Leif:Dan shits on Vanessa's lobster, then pulls out
Leif:two tickets to the student movie theater. This just
Leif:annoys Vanessa even more about being stuck in a rut,
Leif:which Dan is still oblivious to. Rufus
Leif:shows up and immediately Tries to back out when he sees they are on a
Leif:date. Before he can leave, Vanessa pass him
Leif:aggressively and invites Rufus to stay for dessert.
Leif:She then gets up and walks into the other room.
Steve:It's funny to me. And Dan makes this
Steve:point at the end, but the whole point
Steve:to being with your best friend is to
Steve:continue the relationship you had,
Steve:right? Like, you're. You're together and you work because
Steve:you have this history and this great
Steve:relationship already that you're now adding a
Steve:layer to. And that was really
Steve:Dan's point later. But this is where I'm, um,
Steve:thinking, like, vanessa, why are you making such a big
Steve:deal of the fact that you're doing the stuff that you've been
Steve:doing together all along? Why is that a problem?
Danielle Joy:I was gonna ask you guys, like, whose side are you on? Are you on Dan's
Danielle Joy:side or Vanessa's side? And it seems like you're on Dan's side.
Steve:I'm totally.
Leif:I get both sides.
Danielle Joy:You're both sides.
Leif:I understand both sides. I mean, I would
Leif:be more on the dance side if it was me, but I can see
Leif:Vanessa's point of view.
Steve:I feel like it was just too early in the
Steve:relationship for Vanessa to jump to this.
Steve:That, like.
Danielle Joy:I agree.
Leif:She definitely got inside her head.
Steve:Yeah, exactly.
Danielle Joy:And also, like, talk about it first. You
Danielle Joy:know, again, this is like, if they just talk to each other,
Danielle Joy:but, uh, if she's like, hey, I feel like
Danielle Joy:we're in a rut. Can we maybe do a
Danielle Joy:rear window roleplay next week? Would that
Danielle Joy:be fun? Instead of just surprising him with it out of
Danielle Joy:nowhere because Serena put an earworm in
Danielle Joy:her. You know, like, uh, Dan
Danielle Joy:had no idea where this was coming from. He was completely
Danielle Joy:blindsided. Also, Dan's favorite movie is
Danielle Joy:Rear window.
Leif:I would be Dan's favorite movie.
Danielle Joy:Watching other people.
Leif:I could see that.
Danielle Joy:Another you reference, maybe.
Leif:But also, Rufus, he shows up and acts
Leif:surprised, but they specifically told him they were going to have a
Leif:ramantic dinner tonight.
Danielle Joy:Yes. Yes, yes. He knew.
Danielle Joy:Get out of it, Rufus.
Steve:Yeah, yeah. You're not even living there.
Leif:Now he's got to get his 12
Leif:string, because that's what you need
Leif:every.
Steve:Day because we haven't heard every time
Steve:on a 12 string yet.
Danielle Joy:Also, like, wouldn't your guitar be the first thing you
Danielle Joy:move to your new apartment as a musician?
Steve:Yes.
Leif:Take over. Ah, Bart's office with all his guitars.
Steve:My instruments were all safely moved in before,
Steve:like, all of my instruments and nerd stuff were safely
Steve:moved in before my clothes.
Danielle Joy:Yeah. What do you need clothes for. No.
Danielle Joy:Yeah, that's what the laundry machine is for.
Steve:Exactly. Exactly. I can just
Steve:toss them in. Uh, you know, it's just my wife and I living
Steve:there who needed. You know.
Leif:Blair is trying to schmooze Mr. Conwell, but it
Leif:seems he has spotted the sex workers in the audience.
Leif:He tells Blair that he would never have that type of
Leif:clientele associated with his store's
Leif:Midwest image. Well, I mean, he
Leif:knew about that a little too easily.
Steve:Yeah. That was. Yeah.
Danielle Joy:There's nothing he can. There's nothing he can do about
Danielle Joy:that, though. Those people probably
Danielle Joy:still shop at his store anyway.
Steve:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:Regardless if Eleanor Waldorf's line is there or not. Like,
Danielle Joy:he can't. He can't stop that.
Leif:Has he seen the people of Walmart.com?
Danielle Joy:I know. You should be lucky for these lovely people shopping
Danielle Joy:there.
Leif:Yes. Jenny
Leif:watches from the wings as Eleanor takes her bow for
Leif:a successful show. Callie hands Jenny a
Leif:congratulatory glass of champagne. As Jenny
Leif:races her glass, she fails to see Callie telling
Leif:Agnes that she put a triple dose of the pills
Leif:in Jenny's drink.
Steve:Why? Does Agnes have a minion?
Danielle Joy:Yeah. How. How does she have a minion?
Steve:How.
Danielle Joy:That's apparently also friends with Jenny, but is like, I've been looking for a way
Danielle Joy:to screw her over.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:Everyone's just jealous of Jenny because she's so
Leif:talented.
Steve:She is just such a talented designer.
Steve:As Dan is such a talented writer.
Danielle Joy:Yeah. As Rufus is such a talented
Danielle Joy:musician.
Steve:And Rufus is a talent. Yes.
Danielle Joy:Everyone's so talented. Who is only talented
Danielle Joy:businessman.
Steve:Yes.
Danielle Joy:Talented model.
Steve:Rufus is only not a big
Steve:celebrity because he chose not
Steve:to be. Chose to stay home with his kids
Steve:rather than being
Steve:a rock star.
Danielle Joy:Yeah.
Leif:Gossip Girl takes us to our next commercial with.
Leif:We hear Eleanor's show brought down the house.
Leif:Sounds like a night to remember, if you can.
Steve:Yeah. Oh, we're
Steve:just drugging people now.
Leif:We're just drugging people and making
Leif:jokes about it.
Danielle Joy:Again, they gave all the models
Danielle Joy:one pill. And then Callie was like. And nothing happened. And then
Danielle Joy:Callie was like, I gave her a triple dose. Of what? Nothing.
Danielle Joy:Like, yeah, nothing
Danielle Joy:happened with those pills.
Steve:She took three metformin.
Danielle Joy:But also Jenny, like, Agnes hands her the, um.
Danielle Joy:Agnes hands her the champagne. And Jenny was like,
Danielle Joy:oh, last time, Eleanor congratulated me herself.
Danielle Joy:Chug, chug, chug, chug, chug. Like, maybe
Danielle Joy:that's a hint to, like, not drink the random
Danielle Joy:champagne that someone just gave you.
Steve:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:Also, Jenny, you're 16, aren't you? Like, you shouldn't be
Danielle Joy:Drinking.
Leif:Well, yeah, that's never stopped anyone on this show.
Danielle Joy:No, I know. Which.
Steve:That's, uh. It's so funny how we actually
Steve:hardly talk about that anymore. Where the first
Steve:half of the first season, we are always talking
Steve:about. Oh, yeah, and here are these teenagers at a bar just
Steve:getting pounded at a bar.
Leif:At least they're in college now.
Steve:Yeah, at least they're in college now. And a lot of the drinking
Steve:does take place more at, like, private
Steve:events or at a, uh,
Steve:house or a dorm. It's not in
Steve:bars as much.
Danielle Joy:Yeah.
Steve:Yeah. All of season one and two.
Leif:Except for Chuck.
Steve:Yeah, except for Chuck. But a lot of times it's
Steve:his bar, too.
Danielle Joy:Yeah, it's his bar. Usually.
Leif:So we move into Act 4, and the drugs are
Leif:hitting Jenny hard and fast. She is
Leif:already stumbling around and asks Agnes what she put in
Leif:her drink. Agnes rips the fake friendship
Leif:facade off and tears into Jenny for ruining
Leif:her life and suffering zero consequences.
Leif:I don't know about that, Agnes.
Danielle Joy:Yeah, uh, zero consequences. You mean torching her
Danielle Joy:dresses wasn't enough?
Danielle Joy:But also, okay, wasn't the plan to
Danielle Joy:flush these pills. Where's Damian? Did Damian not
Danielle Joy:show up?
Steve:Yeah, he never. He never showed up.
Danielle Joy:He never shows.
Leif:Well, presumably Jenny texted him and said not to show up.
Danielle Joy:Oh, okay.
Leif:She said she was going to. Yeah, she
Leif:showed that, but she said she was going to back out.
Danielle Joy:Okay, well, that was a cut scene then.
Leif:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:So it's like, he's still showing up, isn't he? And then
Danielle Joy:Agnes is. Well, I'll talk about it in a
Danielle Joy:minute.
Steve:Yeah, the second part two of her plan.
Danielle Joy:Yeah.
Leif:Uh, anyway, yeah,
Leif:Nate's plan has gone into effect as Jack arrives at the
Leif:fashion show looking for Chuck. Nate tells Jack to
Leif:wait by the bar, and he is immediately surrounded by some of the
Leif:escorts.
Steve:Oh, Nate.
Leif:So high school.
Danielle Joy:This is like, don't be suspicious. Don't be
Danielle Joy:suspicious.
Steve:Don't be suspicious. Don't.
Danielle Joy:It's like you call me here to meet with my nephew, who is not
Danielle Joy:here, but all of a sudden, there are tons of women all over me.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Oh, Nate. Rufus
Leif:is awkwardly trying to make small talk as he is to close,
Leif:clearly imposing on a date. Vanessa gets up and Rufus
Leif:whispers some advice to Dan. However, before they realize it,
Leif:Vanessa is out the door.
Steve:Why are you sitting there?
Danielle Joy:Get out of there, Rufus.
Leif:Like, yeah, just leave.
Steve:Why did you sit down? You already said you shouldn't sit
Steve:down. Yeah, why did you sit down?
Danielle Joy:Yeah. Uh, this was probably the funniest scene to me, because
Danielle Joy:after she leaves, Dan Just goes. She left. All
Danielle Joy:right. So over it.
Danielle Joy:Yeah.
Leif:Like I said at the beginning, I think that was the intention of
Leif:this storyline was to bring some humor to the episode.
Danielle Joy:Yeah.
Leif:And Pen is great at the humor stuff.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:But I just don't care about Dan and Vanessa.
Steve:Ah, yeah. Yes, completely.
Danielle Joy:I also just love how Dan is so desperate or was so
Danielle Joy:desperate to be in this world, and then when they
Danielle Joy:act the way the world acts, he's just like,
Danielle Joy:they're out of the. Like, you wanted this.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:At the show, Blair accuses Brandeis of going
Leif:outside mission parameters. Brandeis, however, is
Leif:innocent. Mr. Kamala actually recognized a male
Leif:escort at the party. Seems Mr. Midwest Family
Leif:man is something of a hypocrite. You can tell how little Blair
Leif:actually cares about Brandeis by how quickly,
Leif:uh, she apologizes to her. She would never pause to
Leif:Sarina that fast.
Steve:And, uh, yeah. I love her owning this
Steve:Cornwall guy. Cornwell guy.
Leif:And that comes next.
Steve:Oh, I thought that was right there.
Danielle Joy:Yeah.
Leif:This is just where she confronts Brandeis.
Steve:Yeah. And Brandeis is like, it's not me.
Danielle Joy:Yeah.
Leif:Yeah. Because.
Leif:Yeah. Blair immediately takes this new information to
Leif:blackmail Mr. Conwell into reconsidering Eleanor's line.
Steve:Yes. Classic Blair.
Danielle Joy:Yeah.
Leif:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:This is the scheming Blair that I love.
Steve:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:Not that I condone blackmailing, but, like, come on, this is.
Danielle Joy:This is the essence of blackmail.
Leif:The original plan failed, but she goes right to blackmail.
Steve:And as we've often said, within the morality
Steve:of this show, uh, she's right
Steve:on. On cue. You know, she's.
Danielle Joy:She is the barometer for the show.
Danielle Joy:She really is the barometer for the show.
Steve:Yeah.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:As they and Serena walk towards Jack's limo,
Leif:Nate explains the plan to take a picture of Jack with the
Leif:escorts to show to Elizabeth when they open the door,
Leif:Jack isn't having sex with the women. They are having a
Leif:conversation about sustainable energy.
Steve:I love that.
Danielle Joy:What an easy night for those ladies, huh? Huh?
Steve:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:As presumably Nate also paid them.
Steve:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:But also, I. I would think that a picture like
Danielle Joy:that would. Would be enough.
Steve:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:Be compromising. You're with two escorts
Danielle Joy:in your limo. You know, I didn't happen
Danielle Joy:to catch you in the throes of passion, but you're still
Danielle Joy:in the limo with them, taking them somewhere. Like I would
Danielle Joy:put the pieces. Like, that picture would still work, I think.
Steve:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:So silly.
Leif:But the one bright side of Nate's plan is that it puts him outside
Leif:to see a stumbling and nearly passed Jenny
Leif:being shoved into a cab by Agnes and Callie
Leif:for the purpose of.
Steve:Having her sexually assaulted. Like.
Steve:Like you. Now Agnes is just
Steve:escalating to accessory
Steve:to.
Leif:And presumably that taxi driver heard what they were saying,
Leif:too.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:So he's kind of eight on a two now.
Danielle Joy:Yeah. Like, we haven't. We haven't gotten to that. To that
Danielle Joy:scene yet. But like you just said, Agnes's
Danielle Joy:plan was not get
Danielle Joy:Jenny hammered and then throw her on
Danielle Joy:stage in the middle of the fashion show and destroy her chances with
Danielle Joy:Eleanor Waldorf. It was get her hammered,
Danielle Joy:take her to another location with random men,
Danielle Joy:and get her date raped.
Steve:Like, well, she says when she's putting her in the
Steve:cab, we're going to get this girl laid.
Danielle Joy:Yeah, but how is that revenge?
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Like, just pure evil.
Steve:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:Like, Jenny was stumbling around, and
Danielle Joy:all she had to do was just push her on stage at the
Danielle Joy:fashion show.
Steve:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:And embarrass her in front of Eleanor. Like, why jump
Danielle Joy:immediately to sexual assault with random
Danielle Joy:people?
Steve:Yeah. Just dropping her off at some point.
Danielle Joy:She didn't know that those men were going to be there.
Steve:Like, yeah, uh, there's got to be a bachelor party there. There's. You know,
Steve:there's always a bachelor party.
Danielle Joy:At this bar, and I love that.
Danielle Joy:Right after Nate and Serena see Jack,
Danielle Joy:Nate's like, I'll call Chuck, and Serena's like, I'll
Danielle Joy:go find Blair. Why? Why? Just to get her
Danielle Joy:off screen. Right. So that Nate's the only one who
Danielle Joy:used Jenny. And, like, why couldn't Serena also
Danielle Joy:be there? I didn't. I didn't understand. Because she never goes and finds
Danielle Joy:Blair.
Leif:No.
Steve:Uh, yeah.
Danielle Joy:Oh, no, she does. She does eventually. But. Yeah.
Danielle Joy:Like, why. Why are you going back to Blair? Because your plan failed.
Danielle Joy:I don't understand.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Gossip Girl has this to say.
Leif:Spotted. Little J. Passing out in a taxi.
Leif:Oh, looks like somebody better call the fashion police.
Leif:We go into Act 5, and Agnes and her crew
Leif:dump a barely conscious Jetney off at a bachelor
Leif:party. Chaotic, evil.
Danielle Joy:Which lecherous men.
Danielle Joy:You would think that at least one of them would be decent and be
Danielle Joy:like, hey, let's get you home. Like, who are you? Like, no
Danielle Joy:one talks to her. They just leave her on the couch. And then one
Danielle Joy:guy's like, hey, I'll get her home. And it's like, no, your friends
Danielle Joy:know that you're being weird.
Steve:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:Stop. Stop him.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah. It's.
Danielle Joy:They leave her there for, like, ages.
Steve:Yeah. And the friends I know we haven't gotten.
Leif:Like, they said she looks like she's 12.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Should you try to help her out Maybe.
Danielle Joy:Yeah.
Leif:Yeah. Uh, but unfortunately,
Leif:believable.
Danielle Joy:This whole bachelor party is happening around her passing out on a
Danielle Joy:couch while all the guys are just, like, standing around being like,
Danielle Joy:she's sexy. She looks like she's 12. We should get her home. What should
Danielle Joy:we do about it? And it's just like,
Danielle Joy:nobody does anything until, like, at the very end, the guy who's
Danielle Joy:super drunk is like, I'll help her. And it's like, no, you won't.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:Backstage of the show, Conwell, with Blair's
Leif:encouragement, tells Eleanor that he would love to have her new
Leif:line in his stores with a few changes.
Leif:Eleanor, however, is unwilling to compromise her artistic
Leif:vision and her brand and turns down the offer.
Leif:Blair, emboldened by her mother's honesty and courage,
Leif:tells Eleanor about not having any real friends
Leif:again.
Steve:I love Eleanor. She's such a fucking boss.
Steve:She's just like, you want to take my name
Steve:off of my clothes? No.
Steve:Absolutely not.
Danielle Joy:What was this guy's deal? Like, what. Why was he
Danielle Joy:even there? Like, he knows Eleanor
Danielle Joy:Waldorf's designs. It's not like she was a new designer.
Steve:Yeah, yeah.
Danielle Joy:Why would he even be entertaining this notion
Danielle Joy:if he didn't think the clothes were going to be
Danielle Joy:a good fit anyway? I don't know. I thought. I mean, it
Danielle Joy:was great to see powerful Eleanor Waldorf and
Danielle Joy:Blair be able to open up to her mom,
Danielle Joy:but, like, this guy was just obviously
Danielle Joy:not there for a while.
Leif:He wanted the free trip to New York so he could meet with his, uh, male
Leif:escort friend.
Steve:Really, ultimately, there you go. That is what
Steve:it looks like.
Danielle Joy:Yeah, you're right. You're right.
Steve:I also loved.
Steve:Eleanor does everything she can to try to get
Steve:me to cry when she. At the end of her
Steve:episodes. And I think I held it together with this one.
Steve:But, man, when she was talking with Blair and she's
Steve:like, the thing about Waldorf women
Steve:is we don't fit in everywhere. And
Steve:you. You fit in somewhere you haven't found
Steve:your place. Like, the thing that her daughter needs
Steve:so much to hear from her right now, and she
Steve:just nails it. She just
Steve:lands that plane. You know,
Steve:she just really gets through to
Steve:Blair the way Blair needs it right there. And
Steve:I just love that Blair has.
Danielle Joy:The best parents on the show, hands down.
Danielle Joy:Yeah.
Steve:And also, like I said earlier, these
Steve:two are two of the best actors on the show,
Steve:and when they have a scene together, it just is
Steve:so moving. We've also said one of
Steve:our favorite scenes is from the second Thanksgiving
Steve:episode with the two of them and Taylor
Steve:When Jenny is making up with
Steve:Blair and Eleanor on Thanksgiving, where
Steve:that hit me right in the gut.
Danielle Joy:Yeah.
Steve:So, yeah, I love watching them work.
Danielle Joy:And it's so good to see as well, because Blair,
Danielle Joy:when we have scenes with just Blair, like the whole show is
Danielle Joy:basically Blair and she
Danielle Joy:is an adult. She acts and
Danielle Joy:comports herself like an adult. And then when we see her with
Danielle Joy:her mom, she turns into a kid and, you know, she
Danielle Joy:gets a little bit more vulnerable. And I think that dynamic
Danielle Joy:really just the, uh, acting level of it, the
Danielle Joy:vulnerability of it, it's just. It's. It's really
Danielle Joy:interesting to see on screen as well.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah, I agree.
Leif:The bachelor party is getting ready to move on to the next
Leif:destination. Jenny is still semi conscious. And
Leif:once sleazeball offers to hang back to take care of
Leif:blondie, a slurring Jenny takes a call
Leif:from Nate, who is thankfully able to track her phone,
Leif:which.
Danielle Joy:How. How is he tracking her phone?
Leif:Um, I mean, find my phone was a
Leif:thing at that point.
Steve:Was it?
Danielle Joy:But, like, why would. Why would Nate be able to track Jenny?
Danielle Joy:It's just funny.
Steve:It's convenient. Yeah, it is.
Danielle Joy:The thing about Gossip Girl is they had a lot of,
Danielle Joy:um, contracts with different
Danielle Joy:phone providers. Oh, yeah, There were always a lot
Danielle Joy:of. That's why Gossip Girl pops up on the phones. And there's a lot of
Danielle Joy:insert shots of a phone or like they're using the phone in
Danielle Joy:a way that you wouldn't expect to use it. So this Find My
Danielle Joy:Friend.
Steve:Throwing it in the trash.
Danielle Joy:Yeah. In your phone. I know they
Danielle Joy:just disposable, but yeah. So this
Danielle Joy:Find My Friend feature was probably something that the company
Danielle Joy:was like, hey, we need to feature this. And
Danielle Joy:they wrote it into the episode as a way to do that. So that's
Danielle Joy:what I'm thinking because they did a lot of that.
Leif:Mhm.
Danielle Joy:Throughout the show, where the phones were essentially like
Danielle Joy:another character on the show as well.
Steve:Oh, that.
Leif:Let's bing it.
Danielle Joy:Binging.
Leif:I think that gets big in season five. I think
Leif:everyone has to. Let's bing it.
Danielle Joy:Let's bang the fuck up. Noah says that there was
Danielle Joy:one. I think you might have seen this episode already, but there was one
Danielle Joy:where Blair turns on music. It's Flo
Danielle Joy:Rida, and she's listening to her phone walking down
Danielle Joy:a hallway. It's Flo Rida, get low or something.
Danielle Joy:I just remember that being like, oh, you can listen to music on your
Danielle Joy:phone now. It was one of those
Danielle Joy:insert shots. So, yes, the phones are another character on the show. So
Danielle Joy:I'M assuming that this is one of those things
Danielle Joy:where they were trying to show a feature of the phone, little
Danielle Joy:product placement.
Steve:Yeah, that makes sense.
Danielle Joy:Yeah.
Leif:Dan finds Vanessa at her dorm and invites
Leif:her on a surprise romantic second.
Danielle Joy:First date, which Vanessa,
Danielle Joy:she got out of that makeup and hair so quickly
Danielle Joy:and put on new makeup and did her hair so quickly.
Steve:Like, took off the fake lashes, then
Steve:redid her mascara.
Danielle Joy:Yeah.
Leif:She must have done on the subway ride home or something.
Danielle Joy:She should be in a lounge bar set. Hair and a
Danielle Joy:bun, no makeup. What are you
Danielle Joy:doing?
Steve:And also. Just shut up.
Steve:Just stop, Vanessa. Uh, just stop.
Danielle Joy:I'm sorry it didn't work out the way you wanted to, but let's not
Danielle Joy:pout. Please
Danielle Joy:take the L and just be like, well, that didn't work. Let's
Danielle Joy:go see some shows, like, hang out with your
Danielle Joy:boyfriends.
Steve:Do the thing that you love doing with your boyfriend.
Danielle Joy:Yeah.
Leif:Elizabeth calls Chuck for a final meeting and
Leif:tells him that she tried to get Jack to give the
Leif:hotel back to Chuck, but Jack chose the hotel
Leif:over her. With nothing left,
Leif:Elizabeth is returning to Zurich. Chuck asks
Leif:her to stay for him, but she tells him that she isn't
Leif:really his mother. And Jack faked the DNA test.
Danielle Joy:Duh.
Steve:So much.
Leif:But that he. But she didn't though, right?
Danielle Joy:Well, duh. To the. To the. Jack doesn't love her.
Leif:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:Like, duh, Jack doesn't love you. Jack was clearly using
Danielle Joy:you. And you should have known that if you've known him for
Danielle Joy:20 years because you knew his brother.
Steve:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:You've known Jack for a long time.
Steve:And the whole, like, stay for me, though. Stay for
Steve:me. Chuck, how much do you really mean to this
Steve:person? How much have they demonstrated you
Steve:really mean to them?
Danielle Joy:Um, yeah. But he still wants his mom.
Steve:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:And the. And the only way that he could, uh, she could get
Danielle Joy:rid of him was to say that she wasn't his mom.
Danielle Joy:And that's when he sort of gives up, which is also heartbreaking.
Danielle Joy:Like, he, like learning that the woman
Danielle Joy:that you want to have so desperately want to have a relationship with
Danielle Joy:faked a DNA test to steal your hotel from you.
Danielle Joy:The only thing that's really, like, your family.
Steve:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:Only thing you have left of your family. That's.
Danielle Joy:That's terrible.
Steve:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:That's heartbreaking.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Nate arrives at the club and overhears the bachelor party
Leif:talking about a very young looking girl.
Leif:Nate arrives just in time to stop the sleaze ball from sneaking
Leif:Jenny back to his apartment. And Nate escorts Jenny out
Leif:of the club.
Steve:These dudes know that their friend
Steve:is about to. To assault
Steve:a minor, and they're like, man, that guy's
Steve:in there. All right? Like, man, someone should get him away
Steve:from her. It's like you.
Danielle Joy:You.
Steve:If you're recognizing that, you should get him
Steve:away from her.
Danielle Joy:If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.
Steve:Yes. Yeah.
Danielle Joy:Then also, a random guy
Danielle Joy:comes in and steals this blonde
Danielle Joy:chick away, and no one stops him. No one knows who Nate
Danielle Joy:is. Yeah, Nate just says, jenny and
Danielle Joy:picks her up, and you're like, oh, she's fine.
Danielle Joy:Like, you don't know who he is either.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Where are the bartenders and all this?
Danielle Joy:Um, yeah. Bartender would clearly get her someone.
Leif:I mean, some. Someone should have
Leif:fixed this.
Steve:Yeah. She should have been. Yeah.
Steve:In an ambulance by now,
Steve:leaving the bar.
Danielle Joy:Yeah. There were no girls at this bar. Like,
Danielle Joy:female solidarity. Like, if I saw her, I'd be like, let me look in your
Danielle Joy:purse. Where do you live? You know, like.
Steve:Yeah, exactly.
Danielle Joy:Home. There were no women in this bar at all
Danielle Joy:to help her.
Steve:Uh.
Leif:But Gossip Girl has this to say.
Leif:Uh, it seems chivalry isn't dead
Leif:after all. Lucky for this damsel in a
Leif:dress, some things never go out of fashion.
Leif:We go into the epilogue, and by this time, Nate
Leif:has gotten Jenny home. She is sobered up enough to get past
Leif:Rufus and get to her room. Rufus thanks
Leif:Nate for seeing her home. And Nate is about to leave when
Leif:he realizes he's still holding Jenny's bag.
Danielle Joy:Jenny sobered up so quick,
Danielle Joy:he wrote.
Steve:The same thing down.
Danielle Joy:I was like, I have never in my life.
Danielle Joy:I've never taken pills. But also,
Danielle Joy:I've been drunk, and I am hungover for a
Danielle Joy:day. She was like, all right, I'm just gonna go to bed now.
Steve:Uh, what were those
Steve:pills? Right?
Danielle Joy:Clearly nothing, because nobody was affected
Danielle Joy:by them.
Steve:They're forget me nows.
Danielle Joy:And then also, Rufus got back
Danielle Joy:to the apartment really quickly.
Steve:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:Like, he was just in Brooklyn, right?
Steve:Yeah. Yep, he was.
Leif:Well, presumably some time has passed, because
Leif:they. They did say, like, presumably enough time for them
Leif:to have walked all the way home from the show, because that's. That was the excuse
Leif:of why they were late.
Steve:Oh, that is true.
Leif:Okay, so the Rufus part is definitely more
Leif:believable. But, yeah, you would think Jenny would be still a little
Leif:more than influence.
Danielle Joy:She would be. She would be sneaking in
Danielle Joy:past her dad, like, hey, Nate, you
Danielle Joy:go in first, distract my dad upstairs, and then I'll sneak
Danielle Joy:in, you know, like, uh, there's no way she Would be
Danielle Joy:sober.
Leif:Uh, uh, speaking of Rufus, I know
Leif:Nate's trustworthy and all that, but you just kind of leave
Leif:him standing in the foyer. That just seems, like, bad and matters.
Leif:I'm going to go to bed now. See you, Nate.
Steve:Take it easy.
Danielle Joy:No one cares about these kids. None of the parents care about these kids.
Steve:None.
Leif:Serena congratulates Blair for finally being honest with
Leif:her mother. When Blair is approached by three Columbia
Leif:students who recognize her because everyone at Columbia reads
Leif:Gossip Girl, Blair compliments one's shoes,
Leif:but then corrects her on the placement of her headband. Bow. Uh,
Leif:Blair asks Serena what she knows about
Leif:Columbia.
Danielle Joy:This is me.
Steve:Yay.
Danielle Joy:Finally. Yes. I
Danielle Joy:appreciate you saying I was one of the models, but this is me.
Steve:Well, I actually had the thought of
Steve:could you have done both because they were such different
Steve:scenes. Could they have been like, switch your outfit.
Steve:Get. You know. Yeah, but.
Steve:Yeah, so. But that
Steve:does make a lot of sense.
Danielle Joy:I am the one that doesn't talk because
Danielle Joy:I was just picked from a random background
Danielle Joy:person. Um, yeah, they. The
Danielle Joy:director. So in Gossip Girl, there's
Danielle Joy:this trope of, like, everyone has to be in three. So
Danielle Joy:there's, like, Blair and her two minions, and, like, you know, so like, there's
Danielle Joy:a trope of there being three. So they had the
Danielle Joy:two girls that.
Steve:Were hired, Marissa Fumero
Steve:and Alice Callahan.
Danielle Joy:Both of them were so nice. And they
Danielle Joy:had those two cast already. And so the director was like, we
Danielle Joy:need a third. We need a third person to walk up with them.
Danielle Joy:So he picked. Or someone picked a PA. Picked like 6 to
Danielle Joy:10 girls and lined us all up. And
Danielle Joy:I was chosen with another girl by the director.
Danielle Joy:And then I was wearing what I was wearing. And then the other
Danielle Joy:girl was wearing the silky blue, uh,
Danielle Joy:shirt. And the director turned to one of the PAs and was like,
Danielle Joy:what are the girls wearing? And they said, oh,
Danielle Joy:they're wearing these frilly shirts. And I was wearing a frilly
Danielle Joy:shirt. And that is why I got picked. So
Danielle Joy:because I matched the aesthetic, I was
Danielle Joy:chosen.
Steve:Wow. That.
Leif:We're definitely of that era.
Danielle Joy:Yes.
Steve:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:They were both so, so nice. Very,
Danielle Joy:very welcoming and, uh, chatty
Danielle Joy:when we weren't filming. So they were both very, very nice.
Leif:Fun.
Steve:I recognized. Can't remember if it's Melissa or
Steve:Marissa Fumaro.
Leif:Melissa.
Steve:Melissa. But she was on Brooklyn. Nine. Nine.
Danielle Joy:Yeah.
Steve:And I always had a thing for her
Steve:when she'd come on. And my wife always.
Steve:It's like a long running joke. So when she showed up, she
Steve:goes, great, your girl's here.
Danielle Joy:And now you met another one of the ones in that scene, so.
Steve:Yeah. Yes. Yeah. That's awesome.
Danielle Joy:But yeah, so Brooklyn Nine Nine was after that. So she was,
Danielle Joy:um, talking about how she was a huge, like,
Danielle Joy:soap actress.
Steve:Oh, okay.
Danielle Joy:Mostly soaps. Um, so we were talking about that
Danielle Joy:backstage, and then we did that, and then she got on Brooklyn
Danielle Joy:Nine Nine, and I was like, go, you.
Steve:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:Because she was really nice. Good for her. Um,
Danielle Joy:yeah.
Steve:That's awesome.
Leif:Nate goes to Jenny's room to return her purse and finds
Leif:her fighting depression. Nate tries to cheer her
Leif:up, but nothing seems to get through to Jenny. Until she gets a
Leif:text from Eleanor telling her that she's hired
Leif:Jenny. Hugs and thanks Nate for saving her. As
Leif:Nate gets up to leave, Jenny gets a
Leif:schemey look on her face
Leif:again.
Danielle Joy:Agnes's plan could have been so much better if she
Danielle Joy:just kept Jenny at the fashion
Danielle Joy:event in front of Eleanor Waldorf. If Agnes really
Danielle Joy:wanted revenge, that's what would happen. People need to
Danielle Joy:consult Blair and Chuck when they want a scheme.
Danielle Joy:There's just no point in anyone else doing any scheming.
Steve:And Nate is such a good big brother friend.
Steve:He's so. And you had mentioned the big brother
Steve:thing earlier, and I
Steve:really love how he treats Jenny.
Steve:Although you. It's not the same both
Steve:ways. Jenny obviously
Steve:has a thing for Nate. Oh, that was.
Danielle Joy:Ah.
Steve:Yeah. And I get it. You know,
Steve:Nate is. I mean, he's Nate.
Steve:He's not a bad catch.
Danielle Joy:No, he's cute and he's nice and he's friendly.
Danielle Joy:But yeah, he's definitely like a good older
Danielle Joy:brother to Jenny. And, uh, he's never. He's never
Danielle Joy:been. As far as I can remember, he's never been anything
Danielle Joy:more to her. Like, he doesn't.
Steve:They.
Leif:They definitely had a few kisses in season three.
Danielle Joy:Oh, did they?
Steve:Yeah, they had a very.
Danielle Joy:Cut that out.
Steve:Well, it was. It was a short, and it just.
Leif:Happened to happen while he was. Nate was living with them
Leif:too, so. Because he was more of your brother than ever.
Danielle Joy:Oh, yeah.
Steve:Uh, yeah. And then. And then Dan
Steve:ended up. That blew up Dan and Nate's
Steve:relationship, and
Steve:that broke up Jenny and Nate,
Steve:and that kind of pushed Nate and Vanessa together.
Danielle Joy:Yeah, I don't remember the earlier seasons that well.
Leif:In season one, I thought Dan was a good brother to Jenny, but
Leif:then in season two, he started taking his cues from Rufus.
Steve:Yes. And a lot more.
Steve:The patriarchal parenting
Steve:of Rufus, of my son is
Steve:free to explore his creative interests. But
Steve:my little girl needs to stay in school and
Steve:be a good Little.
Danielle Joy:Kid, but also, like, I
Danielle Joy:know Rufus got this job for Jenny,
Danielle Joy:but this fashion show went on until the wee
Danielle Joy:hours of the morning, and Rufus was a.
Danielle Joy:Okay with Jenny staying out that late without a chaperone.
Danielle Joy:He was like, oh, yeah. Thanks, Nate, for bringing her home. Like, how did you think she was going
Danielle Joy:to get home? Dan was doing nothing
Danielle Joy:that night. Like, aside from the fact that
Danielle Joy:Vanessa wanted him to have a
Danielle Joy:date night. But both of them, um, should have been at the
Danielle Joy:fashion show watching over Jenny.
Leif:Yeah.
Steve:Especially because while Jenny's grounded, the
Steve:whole thing was, you go to school. You.
Steve:You are escorted from class to class. You have
Steve:lunch with the principal, you go back to being
Steve:escorted from class to class, and then you're escorted home,
Steve:and now it's.
Danielle Joy:But go to this fashion show on your own.
Leif:Uh, that was just the last episode, and that.
Steve:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:Yeah. Dan absolutely should have been at that fashion show. It's not
Danielle Joy:like he didn't know people there. Yeah, he absolutely should have been
Danielle Joy:there watching over Jenny.
Leif:Anyway, m. Yep. Dan's
Leif:romantic date is takeout and progress in
Leif:Vanessa's dorm room. But really, it's his words that
Leif:seal the deal for him. They kiss, and Gossip Girl
Leif:begins her closing monologue.
Danielle Joy:Nope. This was. I would be so angry at
Danielle Joy:Dan if I were Vanessa. I'd be so
Danielle Joy:angry.
Steve:No, let me show you exactly why. You're right.
Danielle Joy:Thank you. Those are the words I want
Danielle Joy:to hear. Thank you.
Steve:Yeah. No, no, no. Uh, I'm gonna just lay out for you that you
Steve:were right all along, and here is why.
Danielle Joy:Yeah.
Leif:Hey, maybe she just really likes to be right.
Steve:And it's funny.
Leif:It seemed to work. It seemed to work.
Danielle Joy:Yeah, I just. I, uh.
Steve:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:If I. If someone promised me the most romantic date ever
Danielle Joy:and then did the same thing that I was just complaining about that
Danielle Joy:I didn't want to do
Danielle Joy:and then said, but this is the most romantic date, I'd be like,
Danielle Joy:all right, we're broken up now. Bye.
Danielle Joy:Like, clearly, I need more. Like, uh, yeah.
Steve:Yeah.
Danielle Joy:I was so mad.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:But Dan being Dan.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Nate finds Serena on the street, and the two kiss.
Leif:Uh, not much happens. They just kind of find each other.
Danielle Joy:Aw.
Leif:Jenny is on her laptop reading a Gossip Girl blast
Leif:entitled the Golden Couple, featuring a picture of
Leif:Nate and Serena.
Steve:Golden retriever couple.
Danielle Joy:So true.
Steve:But again, here you see Jenny
Steve:plotting that. You can see that she wants to get
Steve:in between them.
Danielle Joy:Leave it alone, Jenny.
Steve:Uh, she's so hurt.
Danielle Joy:Yeah.
Leif:I mean, I get it, though, because, I mean, Nate is just, like,
Leif:constantly saving her. I Mean, she can't help it. She
Leif:can't help falling in love with him.
Steve:And the previous episode when she said she
Steve:looked him dead in the eye and said, well, you're not available,
Steve:you know?
Leif:And, uh, yet he's still there.
Steve:And yet he's still there.
Danielle Joy:But it's not like he was there because he had a fight with Serena.
Danielle Joy:Uh, he was there because he happened to be the one
Danielle Joy:available.
Steve:Yeah. And saw her shoved into a cab.
Danielle Joy:Yeah.
Leif:Stay tuned for next week.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Jack is in Chuck's suite, drinking alone, staring
Leif:out the window like Lex Luthor. Jack picks up
Leif:his phone and calls Elizabeth in a last ditch
Leif:effort to get her to stay. Instead, Elizabeth
Leif:is more disgusted by Jack than ever and hates herself for
Leif:ever having loved him. Their party,
Leif:uh, their party words imply that Elizabeth is really Chuck's
Leif:mother. And as Elizabeth car pulls away from the
Leif:hotel, we see that she once again repaired
Leif:the locket containing the picture of Bart and Elizabeth
Leif:holding baby Chuck.
Steve:Please be gone forever.
Danielle Joy:This was so sad, though, because I had forgotten
Danielle Joy:that she was actually his mom. And when she said we
Danielle Joy:faked it, I was like, oh, yeah, makes sense, right?
Danielle Joy:But she is actually his mom and she did all of that to him
Danielle Joy:because Chuck even says to her, my mom would never do this.
Danielle Joy:And then she was like, well, I'm not your mom. I was like, okay, that makes sense.
Danielle Joy:But then she is his mom and she did that to him.
Danielle Joy:And I was. I was very sort of quite a.
Steve:Roller coaster with her.
Danielle Joy:Yeah.
Steve:Uh, the other thing. Jack, right?
Steve:The way Jack is upset
Steve:that she's leaving and doesn't want her to.
Steve:That he does actually seem to love this
Steve:person, despite being
Steve:a horrible human being.
Leif:I think love is a little strong. I think he likes having her around.
Leif:The convenience. Having someone that
Leif:loves him and is willing to do anything,
Leif:including betraying her own son for him.
Steve:Yeah, I mean, well, you know,
Steve:it is a green flag, you know, if someone's willing to
Steve:screw over my kids for me. I, uh,
Steve:you know, that's a.
Leif:You really love me.
Steve:That's keeper. Come on, Robin.
Danielle Joy:He definitely thought that she could be useful as
Danielle Joy:a pawn later on to manipulate Chuck. Uh,
Danielle Joy:but then she tells him, I told him he wasn't my son.
Danielle Joy:And then he was like, ah.
Steve:Ah.
Danielle Joy:Okay, nevermind.
Leif:Yeah, peace.
Danielle Joy:Yeah, like you're useless. Bye.
Leif:Blair is hanging a Columbia pendant in her dorm room
Leif:when Chuck knocks on the door. It looks like Chuck and
Leif:Blair are ready to go to war with Uncle Jack.
Danielle Joy:Yeah, this is my favorite. Chuck and Blair scheming
Danielle Joy:Yeah. Love them together.
Leif:And then Gossip Girl closes the episode with,
Leif:if you are what you wear, you better dress the part
Leif:you want. A few lucky ladies can do
Leif:no wrong. Their looks perfection,
Leif:and they've got accessories to match. But most
Leif:girls get tired of the same old look, and they'll do
Leif:just about anything to get the hot new piece
Leif:on their arm. And then there are those with no
Leif:vision of their own. Thieves of fashion that will
Leif:steal the shirt off your back. And always remember,
Leif:appearances can be misgiving. But whatever you
Leif:wear, always dressed to kill.
Leif:XOXO Gossip
Leif:Girl. And that is the episode.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:What is coming next?
Steve:My number one prediction is,
Steve:first of all, Jenny is going to go after
Steve:Nate and Serena. Jenny's going to try to
Steve:break them up and go for Nate. I also
Steve:believe Blair is looking for a
Steve:change of scenery. I think we might see her try to
Steve:transfer to Colombia. That she definitely
Steve:is more interested in and
Steve:knows that she has potential minions and friends
Steve:at Columbia. So that'd be. That'd be
Steve:interesting. Except then we have Dan and
Steve:Vanessa at NYU and Nate
Steve:and. And Blair at
Steve:Columbia, and we're back to having this
Steve:separate show again, which we're already getting
Steve:into with that couple.
Leif:I consider. They never actually show class.
Leif:I don't think that really matters. They're all going to school
Leif:in New York.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah.
Danielle Joy:You don't know. If they don't show class.
Leif:They haven't yet. We're almost.
Leif:Almost one full season in through college years.
Steve:Yeah. I don't have they. I think we
Steve:saw, what, two high school class
Steve:scenes? I think that there were only one or two
Steve:the entire time they were in high school, and I think
Steve:that at least one. Mrs. Carson.
Leif:Yeah, they were, like, outside the classroom, too. They were in the hallway.
Leif:They weren't even in the classroom.
Steve:Yeah, there's no drinking at the schools,
Steve:so they can't. They're not going to shoot there.
Danielle Joy:Clearly.
Leif:Uh, any other predictions?
Danielle Joy:I have one.
Leif:Oh, okay.
Danielle Joy:I think Callie is going to get her own spin off show.
Danielle Joy:No, I won't see predictions because obviously I've seen this.
Leif:The Callie Diaries.
Steve:The Callie Diaries.
Steve:Those two were my big predictions.
Steve:I'm going to optimistically predict that we're done
Steve:with Elizabeth, at least for a while. I'm hoping.
Leif:So we never see that
Leif:actress again.
Steve:Yeah.
Steve:Uh, she's getting the Scott treatment.
Steve:Yes. Only with Scott, it's. We'll never
Steve:lose touch because we're a family.
Steve:So. Yeah, that. And my other big thing
Steve:is Chuck and Blair are now going to war
Steve:against Jack. So I'm gonna make
Steve:this a two way. It is either
Steve:going to be Chuck and Blair out,
Steve:scheme Jack and get the hotel back,
Steve:or Chuck and Blair scheme
Steve:against Jack to get the hotel back. But it
Steve:breaks them up. So that's my
Steve:other big thing is that this like
Steve:split with Jack that whatever
Steve:it comes out to is going to be too costly
Steve:to keep them together. That's my. I feel
Steve:like they set such a bomb in the last
Steve:episode with Blair being so
Steve:supportive. I feel like that even though
Steve:that bomb seemed to be forgotten this episode, I
Steve:feel like it's still ticking. Those are my
Steve:predictions.
Leif:Let's get into segments. This week in
Leif:Phantom, we jumped into the Wayback Machine to travel to
Leif:the fan forums from 2010.
Leif:Hello there, Peabody here. And this is the
Leif:Wayback Machine for traveling through time. And this is
Leif:my boy, Sherman. Speak Sherman.
Steve:Hello. Good boy.
Leif:Overall thoughts? They again liked the episode.
Steve:They loved the soap operas.
Leif:Yeah.
Steve:The 2010 fans
Steve:love the soap opera shit.
Danielle Joy:This show had a chokehold
Danielle Joy:on, uh, everyone when it first came
Danielle Joy:out. Like everyone was watching this show. It
Danielle Joy:was so popular. The fashion was
Danielle Joy:inspired. Like every single store carried fashions
Danielle Joy:inspired by this show. I'm not surprised that people
Danielle Joy:loved it.
Steve:Yeah, I actually there's somebody that
Steve:I'm friends with that we talked about having
Steve:on the show at some point, but I don't know if she's
Steve:ever really, uh, talk to us about it
Steve:much. But it was exactly like you said, that
Steve:her entire fashion sense was
Steve:developed watching Gossip Girl
Steve:that, uh, uh, just how much of an impact
Steve:it had across the board.
Steve:Which is why we comment on the fashion
Steve:of it. Which my wife again
Steve:thinks the funniest thing to hear is me talk about
Steve:fashion. But
Steve:it was just so iconic that you can't not talk
Steve:about it. And we can't not talk about, um,
Steve:Eric Damon, right? Yeah, yeah, we like to
Steve:shout out Eric Damon, the fashion design, the director
Steve:of the show a lot because of
Steve:especially see the first two seasons. This season
Steve:hasn't been as eye
Steve:catching, I feel, as the previous two,
Steve:but it still happens a lot.
Danielle Joy:Yeah, the wardrobe department, they were also very nice
Danielle Joy:and they worked really hard on
Danielle Joy:everything. I've got lots of stories about that too.
Steve:Oh, cool.
Leif:Uh, so they also pointed out Agnes is, uh, kind of
Leif:like Jenny's Georgina.
Steve:Yeah, I had that thought of.
Steve:She's a Georgina wild card.
Leif:But specifically Georgina goes after
Leif:Sarita.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Agnes goes after Jenny.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:And they feel bad for Jenny, but they were already
Leif:ready to attack her when she inevitably
Leif:tries to Steal Nate.
Leif:So they're ready to pounce on her.
Leif:But someone did point out that Serena lost the moral high
Leif:ground on that barstool on the pilot. And also
Leif:just a few weeks ago, was going after Tripp, who was a married man.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Maybe a little bit of carbide on her part.
Steve:I mean. Yeah.
Leif:And the potential Serena
Leif:Jenny triangle dominated most of the discussion.
Leif:Um, but they also hated Jack and his evil
Leif:facial hair.
Steve:He looks terrible.
Danielle Joy:Who wouldn't?
Danielle Joy:I don't know how Chuck's mom didn't realize that he was evil. From
Danielle Joy:that.
Steve:From the mustache.
Danielle Joy:From the mustache. Bad hair. Like,
Danielle Joy:yeah. Like it's supposed to be a very fashionable show. And he shows up
Danielle Joy:and you're like, eh.
Steve:Uh, yeah.
Leif:And then a lot of Ed Westwick praise, as usual.
Leif:Moving into the episode grade.
Leif:It is my week to go first,
Leif:so. Yeah, once again, not a great
Leif:episode. The Jenny storyline was
Leif:interesting, but definitely made me very uncomfortable at the
Leif:end. I guess that
Leif:technically can be considered good art, but.
Leif:Yeah, it makes me realize that I am
Leif:happy that they shoot these teen shows with 20 year
Leif:olds.
Danielle Joy:Ah.
Leif:And not actual teenagers, because that kind of stuff just is
Leif:uncomfortable to watch when they're actual teenagers.
Steve:Yeah, it really is.
Leif:Uh, I ended up giving this one a D.
Leif:Daniel, how did you grade the episode?
Danielle Joy:Uh, I had a hard time with this, but I think I'm going to give it
Danielle Joy:a B.
Leif:Okay.
Danielle Joy:For the reasoning. The reasoning I have is the.
Danielle Joy:The acting I really enjoyed, like I was. We
Danielle Joy:talked about throughout the episode. The lines that I thought could have been
Danielle Joy:taken one way were acted very nicely and sincerely.
Danielle Joy:Um, Chuck with his emotion
Danielle Joy:Elizabeth. Um, Eleanor and Blair
Danielle Joy:with their mother daughter scenes. Uh,
Danielle Joy:and that's why I gave it the B rating
Danielle Joy:and the pluses, because I was in it.
Leif:Fair enough.
Steve:Fair.
Leif:Steve, what do you got?
Steve:Well, I mean, yes, the
Steve:scene work by the extras in this was
Steve:fantastical. Fantastical. Thank you. I mean, we have to
Steve:really point that out. Um, great
Steve:work. Especially when you have the acting where
Steve:you have to do it all expressive. You don't have the lines
Steve:and you just. And it's all pure what you're
Steve:bringing to the table. Phenomenal acting on the extras
Steve:parts, I will say that.
Danielle Joy:Thank you. Thank you.
Steve:Um, I gave this episode a C
Steve:minus. I love,
Steve:love Eleanor. I love her in every
Steve:episode she's ever in. I love the
Steve:fashion show episodes for
Steve:the energy that they bring to the show
Steve:and the recurring theme
Steve:that they have. I hated Agnes. I
Steve:hated the Agnes story.
Steve:I hated the, um, Dan and Vanessa
Steve:Storyline so much. I
Steve:hated the Elizabeth and Jack storyline.
Steve:These three main storylines. Well, the
Steve:two main ones, I hated how they were playing
Steve:out. I loved the Blair storyline.
Steve:The Blair storyline, her and Eleanor.
Steve:The callback to Brandeis. Blair
Steve:thinking to bring in call girls.
Steve:Uh, it's so Blair. I loved
Steve:that. And so that saved it from being a
Steve:D to me. But that and,
Steve:like I said, the stellar scene work by the extras.
Steve:So I went with a C minus.
Leif:Moving over to Stockwatch
Leif:for me, I had going up. Jack, because even though
Leif:he's horrible and the worst, he is
Leif:definitely succeeding in what he's trying to do. Eleanor,
Leif:because she had artistic integrity and had a
Leif:successful fashion show. Nate, because he
Leif:saved the day. Uh, it was very close to be
Leif:another nothing episode to Nate, but he did come through at the
Leif:end. I did give Dan up
Leif:because even though he was oblivious,
Leif:he was basically living the male pornographic fantasy.
Leif:Good for him, I guess. And then Rufus, because for
Leif:once he was actually. He gave good advice to both his
Leif:kids in this episode, I thought. And Jenny, even
Leif:though things almost ended terribly,
Leif:she did come out kind of ahead in the end.
Leif:Danielle, who do you have going up?
Danielle Joy:Callie going up,
Danielle Joy:definitely. I think we're going to see big things
Danielle Joy:from her in the future. I
Danielle Joy:can't get over it. I'm sorry. Um,
Danielle Joy:yeah. Ah, the Columbia girls.
Steve:Girl.
Danielle Joy:We'Re done now. We don't have to do the rest of the podcast.
Steve:Yeah, we're good.
Danielle Joy:You guessed it. The Columbia
Danielle Joy:girls definitely going up. I feel like we're gonna see some more of
Danielle Joy:them. Blair going
Danielle Joy:up, just because I always love her and always.
Danielle Joy:I think I sort of had Chuck
Danielle Joy:both going up and down, or I guess staying neutral then,
Danielle Joy:because he was devastated by his mom and
Danielle Joy:losing the hotel.
Danielle Joy:But he thrives on
Danielle Joy:having a plan and scheming, so I think we're going
Danielle Joy:to see him rise a bit more in
Danielle Joy:the upcoming episodes as well. And, uh, Nate going up
Danielle Joy:because he's just a great older brother. Everyone else was just,
Danielle Joy:meh, Steve.
Steve:All right, I had. First of all, I had Eleanor going up
Steve:and Blair. I thought that they.
Steve:Even though Blair kind of had a down episode, it was
Steve:such an uplifting end for her. I felt like she
Steve:got the up. I had Nate going up also.
Steve:Good guy. Saving the day. I, uh, had Brandeis
Steve:going up. Another successful
Steve:episode for Brandeis. She has won
Steve:both episodes that she's been in.
Steve:I had Jenny going up for
Steve:impress. Shitty stuff happened to her, but she came
Steve:out on top in that episode. I have
Steve:Jack going up Because Jack is
Steve:winning right now. I also had the Columbia
Steve:girls going up because anytime someone's
Steve:on, uh, on the screen, we give them the
Steve:opportunity, they're fair game to get stock. And
Steve:I, uh, I love the opportunity to give
Steve:stock to somebody who's on our podcast.
Steve:So the Columbia girls, for sure.
Leif:For me, going down, I had Chuck because,
Leif:yeah, he was just getting kicked in the nuts all
Leif:episode, pretty much. And
Leif:while Blair did have her personal gains, I think she's just
Leif:too tied into the Chuck storyline. So she also. I had her
Leif:going down. Elizabeth, because she
Leif:is the worst mom ever on a show of horrible
Leif:moms. Agnes, because
Leif:she is pure evil.
Leif:Callie, for going along with it. And
Leif:since he was mentioned, I will give Damian a down because
Leif:he lost his drugs.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Danielle, who do you got going down?
Danielle Joy:I mean, basically, all the same, definitely Elizabeth. She's a
Danielle Joy:horrible mother. Um,
Danielle Joy:Agnes is. Is evil, but
Danielle Joy:she's. She's not good at it.
Leif:She's.
Danielle Joy:She's not good at it.
Steve:She's criminal at it.
Danielle Joy:Yeah, she's probably the worst. Yeah. So
Danielle Joy:Agnes going down. Um, and, uh,
Danielle Joy:what's. What's the guy's name? Caldwell's.
Steve:Oh, Cornwell.
Danielle Joy:Cornwell. Cornwell's going down.
Leif:Steve, who do you got going down?
Steve:Um, I had Vanessa going down for obsessing over this
Steve:rut the whole episode. I have Dan going down because he's
Steve:with Vanessa. I have
Steve:Chuck going down because,
Steve:like you said, just everything kind of sucked for Chuck
Steve:this episode. I had Elizabeth going down
Steve:because, like, you two already covered
Steve:horrible, um, Conwell going
Steve:down for losing out on a
Steve:great business opportunity. And
Steve:I'm going to send Agnes down as well
Steve:for just being a terrible
Steve:criminal.
Leif:Uh, all right, that is it for Stockwatch. Moving over
Leif:to best outfits.
Steve:But here's the best outfits from the last
Steve:episode we see.
Leif:For me, I, uh, like a good scarf game, so I gave
Leif:it to Serena in her black dress and the big red, poofy
Leif:scarf. Danielle.
Danielle Joy:Uh, my favorite outfit of the episode
Danielle Joy:was Agnes's dress at the fashion show.
Danielle Joy:So the one that Jenny was sewing. But I also.
Danielle Joy:I meant to mention this before, really loved. I don't
Danielle Joy:know if you could see it, but I remember being obsessed with it when we
Danielle Joy:were filming. Blair had a bow
Danielle Joy:tied into her hair, so her hair
Danielle Joy:was actually tied in a bow shape. It
Danielle Joy:was on the left side of her head, and I was obsessed with that. I just thought
Danielle Joy:it was the cutest detail and, um, way to
Danielle Joy:accessorize your hair by just tying your own hair into
Danielle Joy:A bow.
Leif:So, Agnes, check that out.
Danielle Joy:And Blair's bow. Uh, hair bow. Yeah. Which
Danielle Joy:is on the left side, by the way, not the right.
Leif:Steve, what do you got?
Steve:I had Jenny in her
Steve:outfit at the show tonight. I like. You know, it was
Steve:very classic Jenny. The fishnets, the red skirt,
Steve:and especially at the end, because as
Steve:Robin will say, the coat game,
Steve:the outerwear game on this show is so
Steve:great. And Jenny had that really cool big
Steve:puffy jacket at the end too.
Leif:So that is it for our segments. All we have left
Leif:to do is some plugs. But first, Danielle, thank
Leif:you again for joining us.
Steve:Yes, thank you. It was great having you.
Leif:Yes. And is there anything you would like to plug at
Leif:this time?
Danielle Joy:Yes. So I currently, uh, have
Danielle Joy:a podcast out as well. It's called still the
Danielle Joy:Podcast about all the crap still going on
Danielle Joy:in the entertainment industry for female identifying artists.
Danielle Joy:Uh, so as you can tell, I am in the industry.
Danielle Joy:I'm an actor, producer, um,
Danielle Joy:background artist, stand in on Gossip Girl
Danielle Joy:as well. Photo double. Um,
Danielle Joy:and yeah, so my co host, Corey Hunt and
Danielle Joy:I talk about all the things that we as female
Danielle Joy:identifying artists face every day on set.
Danielle Joy:How sometimes we're picked just because we're wearing a ruffly
Danielle Joy:shirt. And, you know, you could be the
Danielle Joy:best actor in the world, but you're wearing the wrong shirt. So.
Leif:Yeah, yeah, definitely check that out. I've listened to a few
Leif:episodes. Good stuff.
Danielle Joy:Thank you.
Leif:I listened to the episode, uh, where you talk about Blake Lively's new
Leif:movie. It ends with us.
Danielle Joy:Oh, it ends with us. Yeah.
Leif:Steve, you plug in anything this week?
Steve:I am. So, as I mentioned previously,
Steve:I was cast in a feature
Steve:length film called Best of this. And if you go
Steve:to some of my
Steve:socialsvemarshonvemarshon
Steve:on Instagram or, uh, TikTok. Steve
Steve:Marshon M A R C H I O N.
Steve:We are currently having a casting call for
Steve:Best of This. We're looking for a few more parts
Steve:to flesh it out. It'll be shooting
Steve:in Philadelphia, outside of Philadelphia
Steve:in the fall. So if you check
Steve:out my socials and you're interested in
Steve:auditioning for this film,
Steve:please get in touch with us and we'll
Steve:send you in the right way and set
Steve:you up. Outside of
Steve:that, I don't think I really have much going
Steve:on. Uh, you can find me at,
Steve:like I said, Instagram and TikTok. Steve
Steve:Marshon M A R C H I O N.
Leif:All right. Uh, nothing really for me to plug this week. Uh,
Leif:just, uh, go check out still the podcast. And if you
Leif:want to follow me on social media, you can find me
Leif:on instagram and bluesky
Leif:hotcappicola. That's H o t
Leif:c a p I c o l a.
Leif:And if you want to follow the podcast you can find us on
Leif:instagram threads TikTok
Leif:onnjudging breakfast pod. You can
Leif:also find links to our discord server, our
Leif:patreon and others things on our website
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Leif:breakfastpod.com and if.
Steve:You would like to send us an email, we would love to hear what you
Steve:have to say and we'd maybe even read it here on the
Steve:air. You can send us an
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Steve:And finally tell your friends what you're listening to.
Steve:Make us your water cooler talk and
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Steve:and see what we have to say about it.
Leif:And we will be back for Our next episode.
Leif:Season 3 Episode 17
Leif:Inglorious Bastards
Leif:I love two S's.
Danielle Joy:Love it. So good.
Steve:God damn it. Once again, that means that Inglourious
Steve:basterds is over 20 years old.
Steve:It just makes me like, yeah, I was in my
Steve:20s when that came out.
Leif:The episode description reads, chuck and
Leif:Blair are faced with the most difficult decision they
Leif:have ever faced as a couple. Serena has
Leif:a surprise birthday planned for Nate. But Jenny
Leif:does her best to sabotage Serena's efforts.
Leif:Dan and Vanessa's new relationship hits a
Leif:bump in the road.
Steve:Oh, my God. I just had a new prediction.
Steve:Jack is going to indecent proposal her.
Steve:Oh, my God.
Danielle Joy:Who? Jenny?
Steve:No, Blair.
Danielle Joy:Blair.
Steve:Uh, Jack's going to indecent proposal Blair
Steve:to get the hotel back to, uh. Oh,
Steve:of course. We'll see.
Leif:Until next time. You know you love us.
Steve:XOXO Gossip Girl.
Steve:Every time you walk away run away you take a
Steve:piece of me you with you there
Steve:every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:oh, it seems I'm walking right to
Steve:your door
Steve:my heart's still resting looking for
Steve:something more
Steve:are you ever gonna see everything you mean to me
Steve:I'm trying really hard to believe
Steve:every time you walk away or run away you take a piece
Steve:of me with you there
Steve:every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:Every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:Never feels right when I'm out here on
Steve:my own
Steve:I left last night and it feels like
Steve:way too long?
Steve:Are you ever gonna see everything you mean to
Steve:me? I'm trying really hard to believe?
Steve:Every time you walk away run away? You take a piece
Steve:of meat with you there
Steve:Every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:Every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:Come back to me,
Steve:smile and you'll make my life
Steve:complete?
Steve:Every time you walk away or run away you take a piece
Steve:of me with you there
Steve:Every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:Every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:Every time you walk away or run away you take a piece
Steve:of me with you there
Steve:Every time you walk away or run away and take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:Every time you walk away and run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:Every time you walk away or run away you take a piece
Steve:of me with you there
Steve:Every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there.
Danielle Joy:Can I. Can you hear me?
Leif:I hear you.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Okay.
Danielle Joy:Did my camera die? Uh, no. It's
Danielle Joy:charging. Oh, um, no. What
Danielle Joy:happened? New recording track created
Danielle Joy:changes in my devices. Oh, God.
Danielle Joy:Guys, I'm so sorry. Hold on one second.
Danielle Joy:This. I'm the worst. I'm the
Danielle Joy:worst.
Steve:Honestly, you're not.
Danielle Joy:That's good to know. All right, let me try and turn this off and on again.
Steve:Have you heard an episode with Shannon?
Danielle Joy:Okay, let's see.
Steve:Now, I have to make sure Shannon hears that, so I'm not
Steve:saying that behind her.
Danielle Joy:Cut that out. Cut that out.
Danielle Joy:Actual recording is highest
Danielle Joy:quality. Oh, guys, I'm so
Danielle Joy:sorry. I've disappeared.
Leif:Well, uh, we still got your voice, so let's just
Leif:wrap it up.
Danielle Joy:Okay. Sorry.
Steve:Yeah, no, we're at the finish line.
Danielle Joy:Yeah, I'll give you a headshot to put.