Episode 2
Gossip Girl S2E02 - Never Been Marcused [with Robin]
Summary
In this episode of the Non Judging Breakfast Pod, Leaf and Steve discuss Season 2, Episode 2 of Gossip Girl. They analyze the relationships between the characters, the drama unfolding, and the questionable decisions being made. They also touch on the themes of old money vs. new money, the power dynamics between the characters, and the soap opera-like nature of the show. Throughout the episode, they provide humorous commentary and share their thoughts on the various plotlines. In this episode, the hosts review the second part of their conversation and identify the principal themes. They discuss the plot developments, character dynamics, and fashion choices in the episode. They also give their episode grades and discuss their favorite outfits. The hosts plug their social media accounts and encourage listeners to engage with them. They end the episode by previewing the next episode and signing off with the iconic Gossip Girl sign-off.
Keywords
Gossip Girl, Season 2, Episode 2, drama, relationships, old money, new money, power dynamics, soap opera, Gossip Girl, episode review, conversation analysis, plot developments, character dynamics, fashion choices, episode grades, favorite outfits, social media, engagement, preview, sign-off
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Random Facts
09:02 The Complex Relationships in Gossip Girl
17:12 The Clash Between Old Money and New Money
22:22 The Soap Opera-like Nature of Gossip Girl
27:32 Questionable Decisions and Selfish Desires
47:02 Analyzing Plot Developments and Character Dynamics
51:07 Fashion Choices and Favorite Outfits
53:47 Engaging with Listeners on Social Media
01:04:00 Previewing the Next Episode and Sign-Off
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Edited and mixed by Leif Capicola.
The Gossip Girl Theme Performed By Steve Marchion.
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Transcript
His sister is married to Tony Romo
Leif:Oh, wow.
Robin:That's a random fact.
Leif:Wow. I mean, is
Leif:he able to get through his vows without. Without his
Leif:voice going out? Because I've listened
Leif:to him try to broadcast for 20
Leif:minutes, and it doesn't seem to last that long.
Leif:That's a shame.
Robin:Let me get a Tony Romo Dig in there somewhere.
Leif:M. No, I mean,
Leif:Hey, upper east siders and all you scandal loving listeners out
Leif:there, you just tuned into the non judging breakfast
Leif:pod, where the coffee is strong, the waffles
Leif:are fresh, and the gossip is hotter than ever. My
Leif:name is Leif, and I'm your seasoned gossip girl veteran.
Leif:And I'm Steve, your newbie, your
Leif:greenhorn, your. I don't know, Leif. What do you call
Leif:a season two kid on the block in
Leif:Gossip girl terms?
Leif:Well, I don't know if you know your arse from your arsenal yet, so you're
Leif:still just a minion.
Leif:That's fair enough. Here's the deal, folks.
Leif:Leif has been listening, watching Gossip girl since
Leif:the very beginning, and I have been watching, and
Leif:I'm watching right now for the very first time. And together,
Leif:we are your dynamic duo, bringing you
Leif:all of the drama, romance, and
Leif:sometimes questionable fashion choices of
Leif:this iconic 2007 tv
Leif:series.
Leif:That's right. Each week, we'll be taking a deep dive into the
Leif:show one episode at a time. We analyze all the
Leif:parallels, obscure references, and, of course, the
Leif:catarrh catastrophes. Plus, we will also be touching on the
Leif:behind the scenes gossip as well as stories from fandom.
Leif:And since we're all about inclusivity here at the non
Leif:judging breakfast podesthe, there is always room for
Leif:you at our non judging breakfast table.
Leif:So please grab a mimosa,
Leif:grab a cup of coffee, or maybe some of Nate and
Leif:Chuck's special medicine, and let's get this show
Leif:started.
Leif:All right, let's do it. And, Steve, we are not
Leif:here alone. Today. We have with us
Leif:the, wife of the pod, Robin.
Leif:Yes. Welcome, Robin, our own Kylie
Leif:Kelsey, to the non judging
Leif:breakfast podesthe.
Robin:Thank you very much for having me. It was the Kylie Kelsey
Robin:reference that actually convinced me to be on the show. I heard
Robin:that. I've been mentioned a number of times, and
Robin:I thought, why not sit in? As
Robin:a fellow gossip girl newbie, it has been a
Robin:blast to watch along with you guys.
Leif:Yes, and you being our Kylie Kelsey would also
Leif:mean. Ladies. Anyone who would date
Leif:leaf at this point, you would be the official
Leif:T. Swift.
Leif:Okay.
Leif:Non judging breakfast pot, not a bad place to be. It is
Leif:not a bad place to be. So
Leif:just. Just putting that out there.
Leif:So a little scuttlebutt going on, but
Leif:this will be old news by the time this podcast releases at the end of
Leif:August. But Taylor Momsen,
Leif:Jenny, she got bit by a bat on stage.
Robin:Yes, I heard this. Didn't I send you? Yes,
Robin:I sent you a clip of this.
Leif:And she continued performing.
Leif:She just fucking rolled with it. She did
Leif:not freak out.
Leif:Nope.
Leif:She didn't scream. She goes, there's a
Leif:fucking bat on my leg.
Leif:I was just like, get him.
Robin:She's never seen me.
Leif:I think she just. I think that
Leif:she just became the new Aussie.
Robin:I was gonna say, is that the most metal thing that, like, you could
Robin:possibly do? Get bitten by a bat performing?
Leif:Yeah, I mean, I feel like it's a deep honor. Like it's
Leif:a metal honor at that point.
Leif:Yeah.
Robin:The bat chose you.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:So today we are here to talk about season
Leif:two, episode two, never been
Leif:marcused.
Leif:Yes.
Leif:Which is based on never been kissed.
Leif:Yes. A, reference I definitely got,
Robin:And I more than got because Steve always
Robin:teases me that I've only seen about 20 movies in my
Robin:life. But of those 20 movies, I've seen each of them
Robin:probably a hundred times, and this is
Robin:firmly on that list.
Leif:Definitely a good, good one to start with. Yeah. Drew
Leif:Barrymore. What's his name? Arquette.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah. And, and I
Leif:was in love with Drew Barrymore
Leif:when I was four years old. And. And so
Leif:even, like, up until when this movie came
Leif:out, like, I. I would be
Leif:one of those guys would be like, I'm not watching a fucking rom.com. oh, Drew
Leif:Barrymore's in it. Okay, okay, I'll go. Well,
Leif:just because you want to go.
Leif:I do like both of her Adam sailor movies that she's
Leif:in.
Leif:I don't think I've seen the newer one blended.
Leif:Yeah, I haven't seen that one.
Leif:I think it's underrated.
Leif:that I feel like. I feel like Adam
Leif:Sandler's last. I feel like
Leif:the last decade Adam Sandler has been a little
Leif:underrated. I feel like he's put out some good stuff. That
Leif:basketball movie was good uncut gems.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:The plans, like, it was, you know, typical sandler.
Leif:Rom.com.
Leif:Yeah, it's. Yeah, yeah. But I mean,
Leif:I feel like the whole.
Leif:You got the whole Brady bunch in Africa. The vibe to, it.
Leif:Yeah, yeah.
Leif:so this episode originally aired on
Leif:September 8, 2008. the television without
Leif:pity episode description. No Bayless this week. So I had to go
Leif:to took a snippet from Jacobs. Full recap?
Leif:Hell, yes. So Dan and Serena agreed to take
Leif:it slow for 5 seconds, but that lasts
Leif:approximately as long as it takes Serena to turn
Leif:legit he back to Manhattan into a
Leif:hilariously seductive woman woman show of
Leif:nine and a half weeks. I realized tonight that I
Leif:badly misread the scene last week when Serena was scrubbing
Leif:his suit. He apologized for calling Raori a
Leif:billion times. Now I can actually enjoy whatever is
Leif:going on with them. I'm adults. Sometimes
Leif:Blair's emotional cover stories within cover
Leif:stories have gotten so insane that she's
Leif:convinced she's actually in love with lord Marcus, whose
Leif:judgmental, over invested mother, the
Leif:duchess, is also Nate's girlfriend.
Leif:Katherine the cougar is
Leif:a
Leif:milfem.
Leif:this episode was written by Stephanie Savage. This is her
Leif:first solo effort. Previously, she co wrote the
Leif:pilot and finale with Josh shorts. Not sure how much
Leif:she actually wrote.
Leif:Well, I'm just saying that we know who is carrying the
Leif:late finale. If that's
Leif:the case, Stephanie Savage did something.
Leif:I feel like she has credits elsewhere.
Leif:Well, she's, like his partner.
Leif:Okay.
Leif:part of our.
Leif:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I understand. Yeah.
Leif:She didn't do the, Who wrote true
Leif:blood?
Leif:Not her.
Leif:Not her. Okay. That name just for some
Leif:reason, that just hit that part of
Leif:my brain that. Okay.
Leif:Good episodes directed by
Leif:Michael Fields, who previously directed Roman
Leif:Holiday and desperately seeking Serena.
Leif:One was good. One was bad.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah. Roman Holiday was a good episode, and.
Leif:And, you know, I
Leif:I don't. Haven't seen
Leif:many episodes in season one where I could say the
Leif:directing was really bad. There was
Leif:bad acting. There was bad writing. but
Leif:I felt like directors typically
Leif:weren't the low point.
Leif:Yeah. And, I mean, that's. A. Tv is not a
Leif:director's medium.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:The writers have a lot of control.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:Episode begins in act one,
Leif:gossip Girl monologues. As summer comes
Leif:to an end, I'd like to share a few things I've learned about the fun and
Leif:the sun. Gossip Girl's guide to summer fun. Tip
Leif:number one. Don't fall asleep on the job. The
Leif:best hookups are free of morning breath and awkward conversation,
Leif:and the only thing harder than making up is. Is waking
Leif:up. So the episode does open
Leif:Serena and Dan awake arm in arm on the beach.
Leif:Dan is ready to jump back in, but Serena is
Leif:hesitant. Dan tries to use his lips to
Leif:convince Serena, but she manages to resist
Leif:this.
Robin:my note here ties in so nicely to. To our little
Robin:intro banter there. I had written down. What
Robin:in the rom.com is happening here?
Robin:Who just effortlessly awakes,
Robin:tousled on the beach on a blanket
Robin:in the arms of their lover.
Leif:It was Serena vanderwitz,
Leif:obviously does, evidently.
Robin:It was a very interesting, opening scene. It was,
Robin:yes. Very robcom esque.
Leif:and there were many times
Leif:in season one where you brought up that
Leif:they were a couple, that this was just young lust and
Leif:that these kids were just burning hot.
Leif:And. And I didn't really
Leif:feel that so much in the first season,
Leif:and then I felt like this just
Leif:was kind of forcing that angle. Like,
Leif:that's all they ever were. And it's like
Leif:they. They found things. Like
Leif:Serena was becoming this
Leif:better person, a better stoop.
Leif:I mean, yeah, they. They got along well,
Leif:but they didn't really have much in
Leif:common.
Robin:No, but, like, Steve and I
Robin:have nothing in common on paper.
Leif:Yeah. like, and. And, you know,
Leif:we did start out sure. Hot and heavy, like, you know,
Leif:and, you know, then found that, common ground in
Leif:between. So, you know, I
Leif:didn't. I'm just saying that I felt like that
Leif:became the entire focus of this
Leif:episode where even in other episodes where
Leif:they've. Where sex or making
Leif:out was a thing, it was
Leif:never so like, oh, that's all
Leif:that they have together.
Leif:I don't think it was all they had, but I do think
Leif:that was the primary thing. It was just theme
Leif:in season one. I feel like that they were
Leif:always drawn to each other, but then, like,
Leif:as soon as they started, like, talking about things, things went
Leif:wrong.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:Because he couldn't handle, he had the whole upstairs
Leif:downstairs thing.
Leif:The, the upstairs downstairs thing was always a problem.
Leif:Yeah. I felt like. I felt like
Leif:there was just a little more substance in season one than
Leif:they're giving it in the start of season two.
Robin:I agree.
Leif:Well, I think the issue is that they don't want to talk about their issues.
Leif:Well, yeah. And that's the big thing, is that
Leif:they're just making out to avoid talking
Leif:about stuff, which also, it's kind of like there.
Leif:That tracks.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:And I. Last week, I think you said that, you thought they
Leif:got the writers, got them back together from reading the message boards. But
Leif:I think it's actually just because Penn and Blake
Leif:are, like, all over themselves, all over each other.
Leif:Like, sus. The camera stops anyway, so.
Leif:Yeah. Cause they didn't. They were. They
Leif:were still dating at this point.
Leif:They did up until season three.
Leif:And right around what time did Green lantern come out?
Leif:Yeah, sometime around there.
Leif:Oh, that's interesting.
Leif:I mean, I guess it probably came out, like, some sort times towards
Leif:season four, but it was probably filmed, like, between season two and
Leif:three.
Leif:Yeah. Hey, hold my beer real
Leif:quick. Hey, Ben, hold my beer.
Leif:he didn't do so bad after that. He did. What's his name? What's your
Leif:name for a while? the daughter of
Leif:the Cosby daughter.
Leif:Oh, oh, not Lisa.
Leif:Not her daughter.
Leif:Oh, her daughter. Oh, okay.
Leif:yeah. Penn dated her, and then now
Leif:he's married to one of the kirks.
Leif:Oh, he married into old money.
Leif:Yeah.
Robin:Kind of like the chest.
Leif:I'm telling you, it can work out. Yeah.
Leif:His wife actually is kind of serena
Leif:ish.
Leif:I think this is also a good time to say that out back, we do
Leif:have two cardinals that come by that we have
Leif:named Ryan Rednolls and Blake
Leif:Flively.
Robin:And by we, Steve means he has named them that
Robin:because he is the punniest.
Leif:Blair and Marcus are riding bikes. I don't care
Leif:about this couple at all.
Leif:Yeah. Pretty boring.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:And then we get a whole nother scene with them, eating,
Leif:breakfast at a restaurant.
Leif:Marcus is blimey blue.
Leif:His accent is just
Leif:so terrible. And it's funny
Leif:because it may. It reminds me of
Leif:angel from Buffy when
Leif:angel has an irish accent. Oh, wow. Yeah.
Leif:So bad. It's like. Yeah. When. When he
Leif:tries his artist to do his lucky charms. But
Leif:just.
Leif:We love David Boreanis. He's a big Phillies fan.
Leif:I. Yeah, I love David and I. And I love angel. I love
Leif:David Boreanis.
Leif:his irish accent could have used some coaching.
Leif:I love.
Robin:Oh, sorry, Leif. My main note for this scene
Robin:was, quote myself. How old is this
Robin:dude? I understand that age is
Robin:somewhat of a mystery in this show between actors and
Robin:characters, but there is something about Marcus that
Robin:just. I'm, ah, a 30 year old vibes.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:He's definitely past college.
Leif:Yeah. And where most of the
Leif:time when we
Leif:see these actors that are like Asher,
Leif:who looked like he was mid
Leif:twenties, when we have these actors
Leif:that.
Leif:Show that they at least dress him in high school clothes.
Leif:Exactly. They dress them in high school clothes. Or they say that
Leif:they're attending such and such high school
Leif:for him to be like, no, I'm not
Leif:attending college. He didn't say royals don't
Leif:go to college.
Robin:He's not attending college because he's 30.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah. Nobles still
Leif:go to college. Yeah.
Leif:He's already got his graduate degree.
Leif:Yes. Yeah.
Leif:By the way, it's doctor lord. Marcus.
Leif:Blair calls Serena because she is worried about screwing
Leif:up her relationship with the lord,
Leif:which. Yeah, players already back on. On the back,
Leif:but right away here.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:Uncharacteristically so.
Robin:I felt too, yeah, I was irritated with Blair in this
Robin:scene because she's typically such a power player,
Robin:and you've liked this guy for
Robin:27 minutes, and now all of a sudden, he's
Robin:already. He's already being vague about the
Robin:future. Wow, that's a lot. But
Robin:not even for Blaire.
Leif:Yeah. And, one little look when you
Leif:mention his mom and you
Leif:run, and, like, a lot of
Leif:people are going to be like,
Leif:oh, you want to meet my mom? Like. Like, that
Leif:could mean many things. For instance, my mom
Leif:is a real pain in the ass who.
Leif:Who, likes inappropriate
Leif:relationships. I'm not talking
Leif:about my mom. I'm talking about the lord.
Robin:Glared at Steve so strongly because his.
Leif:Mother is a spoiler of the episode.
Robin:Wonderful woman.
Leif:My mother. My mother is a saint. Although we did learn
Leif:this weekend. She does not listen to this, though. She
Leif:started listening to this podcast but stopped because
Leif:leaf and I curse too much.
Robin:She's cursing, Steven.
Leif:Yeah. damn.
Leif:Fucking.
Leif:Curse too much. When we were
Leif:sitting at dinner having this conversation, I
Leif:brought up Gossip girl, and she goes, what's gossip girl? And I was like, well,
Leif:that's the show we're talking about. You're talking about a
Leif:show. So she
Leif:didn't get very far when she did this.
Robin:Love her.
Leif:Love you, mom.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:Chuck sneaks past Blair and slips inside to
Leif:befriend Marcus. I'm sure there are absolutely zero
Leif:ulterior motives.
Leif:Yeah. I love the
Leif:who doesn't have in this town, who doesn't have history,
Leif:and it just so disarming.
Leif:Marcus, you have no idea you're getting into here.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah. And Chuck just.
Leif:He plays him, like, just
Leif:a well tuned instrument.
Leif:Serena and Dan run into each other waiting for the
Leif:jitney. Goo goo, eyes ensue.
Robin:Yeah. My note here was, do rich people take the
Robin:jitney? Is that a thing? Also, is a
Robin:jitney just a bus?
Leif:Yes.
Robin:With a fancy name so that maybe some rich people will take
Robin:it.
Leif:Yes.
Robin:Got it. Got it. And, I understand Jitney's now.
Leif:So if you go to Long island, you'll notice
Leif:there are a lot of parkways
Leif:and things like that because
Leif:back then, you weren't allowed to take trucks or
Leif:buses on there, and they didn't want people
Leif:from the city specifically.
Leif:yeah, people of color coming from Harlem
Leif:coming out to Long island. They didn't want that to happen.
Leif:So wait, so you're telling me that some of
Leif:these major traffic routes are because of
Leif:racism?
Leif:I'm afraid so, Steve.
Leif:that tracks. But
Leif:also, they said earlier, like, let's get
Leif:together somewhere around a lot of people where we can
Leif:talk about this, and, like, here's a
Leif:whole lot of people for a, three hour bus trip.
Leif:Yeah, but apparently it's not. It's plenty private
Leif:for them, because, as we'll see the next time we see
Leif:them, Blair comes back into the restaurant and sees
Leif:Chuck and Marcus together, who have made plans for
Leif:squash. Well, Eric grabs Chuck by the scruff
Leif:and tosses him away.
Robin:I noticed here that bass hole is the
Robin:greatest insult of all time. Steve, I think you
Robin:wanted to make a list of Chuck bass related
Robin:insults.
Leif:Yes, because I also, my note here is bass
Leif:hole.
Leif:Chuck bastard.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:Mother chucker.
Robin:They're all so good.
Leif:I do. Mother Chucker and bass hole are my favorite.
Robin:Coming, Blair.
Leif:But, Chuck bastard is also. I mean,
Leif:keep coming. Keep them coming.
Leif:Blair hitches a ride with Marcus back.
Robin:Into the city in a limo, as I
Robin:expected. Thank you.
Leif:Makes sense. Nate tells
Leif:his mother he's going back to the city. However, there's a
Leif:problem. The feds have frozen the Archibald assets
Leif:for Howie's crimes. Ann's vanderbilt father
Leif:has also cut her off.
Leif:It. It takes Anne less than a minute to suck.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:Enter Ann. And then you could, like, set a
Leif:timer, and sometimes she can
Leif:get a sentence or two out, but it's under a minute
Leif:before it's just. No, you are the worst human
Leif:being.
Robin:And I love how the words and the actions do
Robin:not meet in this scene for her is that she's
Robin:telling Nate this really heavy
Robin:information and still
Robin:gardening and tending to her
Robin:estate and pruning her as alias
Robin:as she's delivering this, like, life altering new to her
Robin:only child.
Leif:That's just Ann in, a nutshell, though. She's all about a period.
Robin:Amazing. Amazing.
Leif:And you have to think, like, all of these assets being
Leif:seized but you. But, then
Leif:who's. Why isn't the house being seized they're at right
Leif:now? Because it's probably from the family
Leif:estate, not from hers,
Leif:which means that cutting her off
Leif:means. No, you only get to live in the Hamptons
Leif:house.
Leif:Although I do like Nate's. They want to take our
Leif:money.
Robin:I'll take care of it, mom.
Leif:Yeah, don't worry. I'll handle this. I'll do
Leif:it. I'm sure I'll find some.
Leif:I'll find a job. Delivery papers.
Robin:It'll solve all of our problems.
Leif:I mean, that is how lover boys lover boy starts, isn't
Leif:it?
Leif:Katherine is leaving a message for Nate. The fair is
Leif:still on.
Leif:Woo. Well,
Leif:yeah.
Leif:So gross.
Leif:So gross.
Leif:Katherine gets a call from her son
Leif:Marcus.
Leif:Yes. So soap opera is full on
Leif:this.
Leif:Yeah. This was the moment when everyone had
Leif:warned me, when everyone's like, you're watching season one. Oh,
Leif:that's the best. And, like, yeah. the. Trust me, I know
Leif:where it goes from there. That's always been the
Leif:conversation. And in
Leif:that moment, that was the moment I was
Leif:like, yep, we are watching a soap opera
Leif:now. This is no longer.
Robin:So here for that.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like, all right, bring it.
Robin:I mean, we were eighties, nineties kids. Like, when you were homesick from
Robin:school.
Leif:Yeah. You watched your stories, your stories that.
Robin:Your parents and grandparents watched.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah.
Robin:I have fond, young and the restless memories, and
Robin:I think this is evoking.
Leif:Yeah. I remember none of it because I always thought
Leif:it was gross how they kissed.
Leif:Blair has brought a bottle of champagne for the
Leif:ride back to the city.
Leif:Woo.
Leif:Woo. Looks like romance is flying.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:Love is in the air.
Leif:Ah.
Robin:With your 30 year old boyfriend.
Leif:I kind of just think that's a normal thing on the upper east
Leif:side. I feel like Serena and Blair are always dating.
Leif:Like, especially Serena. Probably dated.
Robin:Like, true. They all made sort of reference to that.
Robin:Yeah. I just, like, he's the first. Maybe not the first, but
Robin:he's, like, this recurrent character.
Leif:Yes.
Robin:Not of,
Leif:Does he have diplomatic immunity?
Leif:So we come back for commercial. and we're on the jet
Leif:knee. Dan plays his mp3 player as he and
Leif:Serena ride on opposite sides of the bus. A series
Leif:of comical scenes, gravity and teenage
Leif:lust forced Dan and Serena to have sex in the bus
Leif:bathroom. They literally had no
Leif:choice.
Leif:This was so fucking dumb, this whole
Leif:thing.
Leif:The music was good, though.
Leif:It was. Well, I mean, the music's always good. I mean,
Leif:I haven't had seen an episode of Gossip
Leif:Girl where the music doesn't, you know, at
Leif:some point stand out, but.
Leif:Yeah, but, who eats strawberries like
Leif:that?
Leif:Really? Yeah.
Robin:Who's bringing chocolate covered strawberries on a jitney ride
Robin:and eating them seductively on said jitney
Robin:ride?
Leif:Yeah.
Robin:This scene was ridiculous.
Leif:Yeah. The only. Yeah. Unless you're trying to have
Leif:sex, you don't eat a strawberry like
Leif:that.
Leif:And a far less sexy limo ride.
Leif:Blair and Marcus are discussing
Leif:plans. Blair, advice, Marcus and his mom
Leif:to her annual welcome back party to the city.
Leif:As soon as Marcus looks away. Blair says a
Leif:911 text to Dorota planning last minute party.
Robin:Dorota, the real mvp of this show. Yeah,
Robin:I love Dorota. And this is
Robin:her, like, blair not being Blair.
Robin:Since when does Blair, like, panic
Robin:like that? And I don't know. She's just off
Robin:her game most of this episode.
Leif:Yeah, yeah.
Leif:And, she is a lowly waldorf.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah. and
Leif:I felt like this scene
Leif:is even m better
Leif:conveyed by Marcus that, like,
Leif:it felt more like a. Ah. Oh, I don't want to talk
Leif:about my mom, you know, like, or, no, I don't want you to
Leif:come and hang out with my mom. You know, like,
Leif:he was warning all.
Robin:Of us that she's so gross.
Leif:Yes.
Leif:Oh, yeah. So Blair and Serena definitely have this
Leif:dichotomy that. So Blair is definitely more
Leif:new money and Serena's old. Yeah, that totally
Leif:plays into the whole thing where Serena's effortless and
Leif:Blair has to work for everything.
Leif:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because Eleanor.
Leif:So, now that she's, like, with this lord, this is her chance to kind
Leif:of get above Serena and station.
Robin:Interesting. I never thought about that.
Leif:Yeah, yeah. Eleanor made.
Leif:Self made.
Leif:Like, I think Harold is sort of old
Leif:money, but Eleanor is
Leif:definitely. She married up, and,
Leif:yeah, it's definitely later seasons actually measure, like. Yeah,
Leif:Waldorf women work for the, you know, where they.
Robin:Yeah, that's true. Eleanor does have, like, an actual career.
Leif:And it's funny, now that you mention it, if you look
Leif:throughout the show, the old money,
Leif:new money relationship is all over
Leif:the place. Right. It's, you know,
Leif:Lily and, Lillian. No money. You know,
Leif:like, new old money and no money
Leif:with Lillian, Rufus, and. And with.
Leif:But even with bass, like, Bart bass new money, he's new
Leif:money. So there's old money and new money with Lillian.
Leif:Bart and, the
Leif:archibalds are new money and old money. Well,
Leif:all. Also, it's probably more new money and no
Leif:money or old money and no money
Leif:now. Yeah, now. But I also got the.
Leif:Got the impression that he was more, you
Leif:know, definitely. Below her station,
Leif:Nate and Chuck are.
Leif:Riding back together when Chuck answers a call he doesn't want
Leif:to take in front of Nate.
Leif:I was bummed that we get this
Leif:glimpse of Nate ribbing on
Leif:Chuck and, like, getting witty and these quick
Leif:one liners back and forth with Chuck, and it's just
Leif:a reminder that, man, I wish they'd let
Leif:chase be funny. Yeah, he's a
Leif:funny dude, and he's a funny actor, and
Leif:he's hilarious on the boys.
Leif:He's also terrifying on the boys at times and
Leif:disgusting. But he also
Leif:is, really funny.
Leif:Yeah, definitely. He's a southern boy.
Leif:Hm.
Robin:Yeah, their banter was great in that scene. Their
Robin:friendship is, you know,
Robin:surviving.
Leif:M his sister is married to Tony Romo.
Leif:Oh, wow.
Robin:That's a random fact.
Leif:Wow. That's a shame.
Robin:In there somewhere.
Leif:No, I mean. I
Leif:mean, is he able to get through his
Leif:vows without. Without his voice going
Leif:out? Because I've listened to him try to
Leif:broadcast for 20 minutes, and it
Leif:doesn't seem to last that long.
Leif:In Brooklyn, Rufus is back. Vanessa has
Leif:converted part of the gallery storage space into a functional
Leif:cafe. The pair have an oddly
Leif:intimate conversation.
Robin:M I am so glad you noted
Robin:this, leaf, because I think one of the fun parts
Robin:about doing this for me is taking my own notes
Robin:and then realizing what I have
Robin:or don't have in common with other people who are watching the
Robin:show. And this was something that just jumped off the screen
Robin:to me is that Vanessa is the same age as your
Robin:children, and yet you are confiding in her as
Robin:if she's your friend.
Leif:Yeah.
Robin:And I know that age is apparently quite a construct on
Robin:this show altogether, but, like, pick Elaine.
Robin:Rufus, she's not your buddy.
Leif:Definitely weird.
Leif:Yeah. And, like, Rufus is sort of
Leif:like, not only is he, like, the dad, but he's,
Leif:like, the everybody's dad, right, which kind
Leif:of made that weird. And, like, yeah, you hired
Leif:her to do some business stuff, but you're also. Now
Leif:it's just. Yeah.
Leif:so last. Last week, we mentioned that we thought that
Leif:Cece was filling in for
Leif:Lily because Kelly's not available. Right.
Leif:Maybe Vanessa is filling in here for.
Leif:Yeah, yeah, there's definitely a few
Leif:places where it feels like these could have been lily
Leif:scenes. Yeah. because she doesn't interact with
Leif:anybody else, does she?
Leif:Yeah, she. They also. Yeah, they also have the other, you know.
Leif:yeah, she doesn't talk to. Does she talk to Nate? She
Leif:does. Yeah. Yeah,
Leif:cuz. Oh, yeah, yeah,
Leif:yeah. So she does have other interactions.
Leif:Nate's back at his house and is being edits, being
Leif:combed over by the FBI.
Robin:Nate, man.
Leif:Acap.
Robin:Douchey FBI guy.
Leif:Acabe.
Leif:Yeah, this shit. Why is this
Leif:dude such a dick to
Leif:this 17 year old?
Leif:And, like. And, like, frequently going through
Leif:his mom's closet and stuff, like, yeah, what the hell,
Leif:dude?
Robin:I do love, though, that Nate tried to be a big boy and was
Robin:like, I'll ask the questions around here.
Robin:What?
Leif:Nate. Aw.
Robin:Ah, sweetie, that's a nice try.
Leif:And, like, here you're trying to find this
Leif:kid's dad and you think that the best way to get
Leif:him to turn on his dad is to just be a
Leif:complete fucking asshole to him,
Leif:not just being like, hey, kid, look, look,
Leif:your dad could probably get this worked out if he comes
Leif:home, but no, he's like, I'm gonna tear your life apart.
Leif:Piece of shit kid. And I've been in your
Leif:mom's closet and I know that she's not gonna
Leif:handle being poor.
Leif:Sucks to be you.
Steve:Sucks to be you.
Leif:She's gonna have to live at the hamptons from now
Leif:on.
Robin:ten to her azaleas.
Leif:She was cut off.
Leif:Chuck and Marcus are having a rousing game of
Leif:squash. Marcus thinks Katherine is going to make Blair
Leif:crumble. Looks like Chuck has a new
Leif:BFF.
Robin:Alright, so as, as the newbie here, my note
Robin:was, is squash just wall tennis
Robin:with sweaters? There was a lot of
Robin:sweating. And you're wearing cable
Robin:knit.
Leif:Yeah, sure. I'm just that that's how
Leif:rich people stay in shape.
Leif:I'm just gonna.
Robin:Cause they can't go fabric.
Leif:Cause they can't go out jogging. Because then they'd be actually seen by the
Leif:real.
Leif:Okay, wait, your mom didn't take you to
Leif:aerobics at a, ah, local racquetball
Leif:club where they had squash and racquetball
Leif:and swimming?
Leif:Yes. So speaking of, what is the difference between squash and
Leif:racquetball?
Leif:I do not know. This.
Leif:Someone needs to write it and tell me.
Leif:Yeah, I know.
Robin:It looks like wall.
Leif:Looks like wall tennis. Maybe you get to use more
Leif:walls in one of them. I don't know.
Robin:Or less cable knit sweaters.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:Send us an email not judging
Leif:breakfastpodmail.com yet.
Leif:To be fair, we had my mom could take
Leif:aerobics class money. Not you could
Leif:actually join the racquetball club money.
Leif:So we move into act two. Blair is reviewing
Leif:party plans with Dorota. Serena shows up and
Leif:Blair asks her to invite Dan to the party for his
Leif:soccer knowledge.
Robin:Did we know anything about his soccer knowledge before
Robin:nests?
Leif:Even more.
Leif:But it makes sense. It definitely tracks for Dana's character.
Robin:It does. It does. He's, going to like a sport.
Leif:I was reminded earlier that he actually
Leif:makes fun of Nate for
Leif:playing soccer. That Nate in a
Leif:previous episode, it was in the SATs
Leif:episode. Because I listened to our podcast of the SATs
Leif:episode today, and in it when Nate
Leif:is like, oh, yeah, I'm just going to go play soccer. And Dan's like, you're going to go
Leif:play soccer? Right now, and, like, really
Leif:came at him hard during, like, playing
Leif:soccer during sat season.
Leif:So why didn't Blair ask Nate?
Leif:that was exactly like, why wouldn't Blair ask
Leif:Nate? I can tell you why. It's because Stephanie Savage
Leif:didn't watch all of season one
Leif:or didn't write or didn't take notes.
Leif:Anyway, Nate shows up at the penthouse. Chuck
Leif:is selling his shares of vitriola. Nate is shocked
Leif:when Chuck claims it's to impress Blair, but as soon
Leif:as Nate leaves, we find out whatever is going on
Leif:involves misses Howie.
Leif:oh. yeah.
Leif:Dead it down.
Leif:It's cute how subtle Chuck is when he's,
Leif:like, talking vaguely, making it sound
Leif:like he's talking about getting rid of Marcus,
Leif:but he's actually right there doing the right thing. But
Leif:he's actually.
Leif:Yeah, but of course, since he was using that
Leif:same language with Ann.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:Nate, the dumbest of all characters, found that. Found him
Leif:out.
Leif:Well, because.
Leif:Must have got struck by lighting during that fellow, conversation.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:Dan and Serena talk on the phone. Now Dan wants
Leif:to take some time, but Serena invites him to Blair's party.
Leif:Seems like these two have already flip flopped their positions from just
Leif:earlier this episode. Dan has become a
Leif:real hit it and quit it this season.
Leif:Your. Your knowledge of Premier League football is
Leif:integral to one of her schemes,
Leif:which. Which. I love how Serena
Leif:is just like, I can't
Leif:explain this. Blair wants you at this party.
Leif:But I like how dad just goes along with that. He's like,
Leif:yeah, okay.
Robin:That's my software.
Leif:Yeah, which
Leif:also kind of, we should make
Leif:note of the fact that
Leif:right now Dan is at a point with Blair that he no
Leif:longer ignores her schemes but is
Leif:willing to be a part of it to a mild
Leif:point. He is definitely warming up to
Leif:Blair.
Leif:Nate is telling Vanessa about his family
Leif:drama, and then, what is lesbian mexican, and how is
Leif:it different from regular mexican food?
Robin:I have the exact same note. Vanessa,
Robin:what is lesbian mexican?
Leif:Yeah, Robin said that, and then I turned
Leif:and showed her your script right at the
Leif:same time, said that it was Leaf's note, too,
Leif:and then I was the one that said that the taco jokes
Leif:are just low hanging fruit or no
Leif:hanging fruit. Yeah, but I also had the note of
Leif:yes, please with Nate and Vanessa.
Robin:Yes, they're cute.
Leif:It's something for Vanessa to do.
Leif:She makes him. He makes her bearable.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:Then Nate gets a call delivering even more
Leif:family drama. Nate deduces from his conversation
Leif:with mommy dearest that she is taking money from
Leif:Chuck.
Leif:Yeah, Nate, like, Chuck loves you,
Leif:bruh. Like he loves you. Just let him. Let
Leif:him help you out, brah. He doesn't want this for you.
Leif:Oh, I'll take care of it.
Leif:Yeah. How?
Robin:Right. We've seen that this whole episode. Seen you take care of
Robin:it by running around the upper east side
Robin:talking to people about how you're not going to take care of
Robin:him.
Leif:No. Well, no, he doesn't, because no one's around to
Leif:talk to Nate again. Like, every
Leif:time anything goes wrong with Nate's parents,
Leif:fucking no one is there except for the
Leif:fucking pedo. Who's calling him.
Leif:Who is dodging the calls, from.
Leif:Nate and Vanessa leave on a positive note, but it looks like Nate
Leif:is about to go confront Chuck,
Leif:so. Yeah, except plans. They're gonna meet up
Leif:later. Yeah, maybe. We'll
Leif:see.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah, it's very. And,
Leif:yeah, that was finally someone to talk to him, too.
Leif:Like, yeah, he does. And that's also not the first
Leif:time that Chuck has no one to talk or that Nate has no one to talk
Leif:to and finds Vanessa.
Leif:Yeah. However, it looks
Leif:like Chuck is doing some confronting him his own, with Nate's
Leif:cougar girlfriend. Da da da.
Leif:I don't do business with children.
Leif:Yeah, yeah, you don't.
Robin:I had the exact same note. You don't do business with children,
Robin:but you're sleeping with a high school student.
Leif:Yeah, you'll sleep with them, but you won't do business with them. unless
Leif:that business is prostitution.
Leif:I, won't do business with them unless it's the oldest
Leif:business.
Robin:I just want to hug Nate.
Leif:Back from commercial break. Blair's party has
Leif:plenty of guests, but none of them look to be having any
Leif:fun. Blair tries to get Dan to impress Marcus, but
Leif:Dan quickly ducks out with Serena.
Leif:Blair failing just isn't written. Well, like it.
Leif:Like, it doesn't seem like her in any of it.
Leif:And Dorota failing. Cause, like,
Leif:the. Her thing of, like, Dorota invited
Leif:these. These are people Dorota invited. Yeah.
Leif:Roto wouldn't fail at a party like this. Even with
Leif:last minute instruction. I feel like the road is
Leif:better than this. Blair's better than this. Stephanie
Leif:Savage is not better than this.
Leif:Nope.
Robin:Since when does Blair Waldorf plan a snooze of a party?
Leif:Yeah. Never.
Leif:Unless it's a slumber party.
Leif:Dan and Serena find a quiet corner of the party
Leif:but are immediately interrupted by Chuck entering the party with
Leif:Katherine. And,
Leif:yeah, this is where we get more repetition from last season.
Leif:Or you get the opposite. Or. Yeah, Dan
Leif:calls out Vanessa's name. Now we get Serena calling out Chuck's
Leif:name.
Leif:Yeah, my. My note says
Leif:more of the same, and it's calling out the wrong name.
Leif:And then it's, oh, that's his. Oh, I can't tell you.
Leif:I can't say. And then that's all of the
Leif:problems that you kept having.
Leif:But at least, you know, we'll see if you talk about them later
Leif:on.
Leif:Chuck introduces Blair to Katherine. Blair,
Leif:not knowing who the woman is, insults her to her face.
Leif:Serena walks over, and the three women awkwardly
Leif:look at each other while Chuck smirks.
Robin:I loved Serena in this scene, trying to run
Robin:interference and do, like, the best
Robin:introductions you possibly could, given the truth of who
Robin:these people actually are. M. And let's throw a book club in
Robin:there, because, you know, who
Robin:can. Who can argue with a book club?
Leif:Well, that is actually coming up.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:First we have, back at the gallery, Rufus is
Leif:asking Vanessa if she can continue running the
Leif:cafe while he goes on another tour.
Leif:Again, is this.
Robin:She's not your friend, Rufus. Yeah, she's not your friend.
Leif:Oh, she's. He's a. She's an employee, though,
Leif:right?
Leif:Well, that. There's. There's two conversations
Leif:that happen, though, right? There's the conversation of, you want to.
Leif:You could. Could you run this? But
Leif:the other conversation of, I'm kind of
Leif:thinking about going back. you know, I'm thinking about going
Leif:back on tour. Allison can hang out with
Leif:the kids, and it's like, if you leave us with Allison,
Leif:Rufus, we will never forgive you,
Leif:even if she's written out, even
Leif:if she's. Even if she's a big theater fan and
Leif:has had a new show every week, you
Leif:know, Pirates of Penzance next week. I don't care. That
Leif:was there already at. Right. Anyway, who
Leif:cares? Who cares?
Leif:South Pacific, I think.
Leif:Yeah, they're at South Pacific. and just
Leif:my. The conversation also is that,
Leif:like, should I go on tour? Like,
Leif:kind of leaning on her for advice? And again,
Leif:like, feels like Rufus should have had
Leif:two different people to have these conversations with.
Leif:Yeah.
Robin:And I feel like, though, I'm realizing now that maybe
Robin:I'm empathizing a little bit with Vanessa's character here
Robin:because I do think Rufus is pretty
Robin:dreamy, and I have, like, deeply rooted daddy
Robin:issues. So I kind of get the
Robin:vanessa. I kind of get the vanessa angle here.
Robin:Like, I'm gonna befriend the dreamy dad.
Robin:I can't have dan, so why not have rufus?
Leif:Yeah.
Robin:Am I the vanessa?
Leif:no one can hate you that much.
Leif:back at the party, blair tries apologizing
Leif:to duchess beaton. Katherine looks on with
Leif:disdain as blaire recites a litany of her sins.
Leif:Once blaire has humiliated herself thoroughly, katherine points
Leif:out that Marcus will never end up with a lowly waldorf.
Leif:Blair is really getting a taste of her own medicine
Leif:here.
Leif:I found blair
Leif:laying out all of her cards
Leif:on the table. Was so not
Leif:blair, and even fumbling even all
Leif:that, it just, one another example of,
Leif:like, I get that they had to keep her failing and failing and
Leif:failing for her to eventually really come out on top, but I
Leif:just felt like. It just didn't feel like blaire.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:Right in the middle of the katherine and blair dress down, Nate
Leif:arrives to the party in a tracksuit, and it immediately
Leif:becomes awkward. When nate and katherine recognize each other,
Leif:Serena tries to cover for them by explaining everyone's
Leif:convoluted sexual history, which, of course, just makes it more
Leif:awkward.
Robin:Yes. Insert book club here.
Leif:Yeah, that's Nate's friend from book
Leif:club. And the best was. Was gossip
Leif:girl in the. In the monologue when. When it
Leif:was Nate is Blair's ex, blah,
Leif:blah, blah. Nate and
Leif:Marcus's mom are in a book club.
Robin:Nice try, Serena.
Leif:So that is the end of act two. We move into act
Leif:three. Serena is comforting Blair about her
Leif:failure at a party. yes.
Leif:As we've been saying. Yeah, not. Not a good party. She's
Leif:just backsliding all up that.
Leif:Yeah. And I love. You know, I love
Leif:that we see the friendship here. I love that we see that
Leif:core friendship and that we see the tough love
Leif:from Serena talking to Blair the way
Leif:only. Only Serena and Eleanor and
Leif:maybe Lily can. And how she
Leif:just. Yeah, I really
Leif:loved seeing that little spark
Leif:between them.
Leif:Elsewhere at the party, the other half of the non judging breakfast
Leif:club are arguing about Chuck giving money to misses
Leif:howey.
Leif:Chuck hopes you. Yep.
Leif:Just accept it. Just.
Leif:Just take it.
Leif:Let your friend who just let it.
Leif:Happen, just let it happen.
Leif:Helping you out.
Leif:This is chug bass we're talking about.
Robin:Right? And nate. So
Robin:Nate just lie down and.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:Serena is apparently done, thinking it is just down
Leif:to get down with dapper Dan. Nate catches
Leif:them but seems happy for them. Nate has to hang
Leif:back because he gets a booty call text from
Leif:katherine.
Leif:Yeah. Gross. I
Leif:I did love how nate reacted to
Leif:seeing serena. Yeah, he was happy for them,
Leif:and it was genuine. And I love that
Leif:nate just. He's always just so
Leif:supportive of his friends, and I feel
Leif:like he's starting to see Dan as a friend now.
Leif:Yeah, and. And I just. That, I really like that.
Leif:Yeah, I want to see more Dan.
Leif:And then I would really like to see more Dan.
Robin:Nate, stan.
Leif:Since day one. Since day one.
Robin:I love it.
Leif:Nate tries to break up with katherine, but she manipulates
Leif:him like the predator that she is.
Leif:Oh, she's so fucking gross.
Leif:Yeah, I
Leif:I was sort of okay with just, like, a fling between
Leif:them. you know, he's 17. It's legal in New York.
Leif:I mean, but once he wants out and she's
Leif:drawing him back in, that's when it gets.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:Really quick.
Leif:And. And if the best case
Leif:scenario, I'll be Blair's father in law.
Robin:The, emotional manipulation, too, of, like,
Robin:this is not just physical. This is. Oh, honey, tell me your
Robin:problems and how can I help you? And
Robin:that's another layer to, her
Robin:predatory nature.
Leif:Rufus returns to the loft while listening to a cute
Leif:voicemail from Jenny. He looks around at the empty
Leif:loft and all the stuff he missed with his kids this summer and
Leif:immediately calls his agent.
Leif:Rufus loves his kids more than the road.
Leif:Yeah.
Robin:Love it. I love a nice family. A nice family.
Leif:Rufus, you should go on the road with the kids next summer.
Leif:Unless they want to stay back. Unless they want to stay back.
Leif:Well, it's that they both had jobs this summer.
Leif:Yeah. Well, how'd that work out for
Leif:Dan? And how's that going to work out for
Leif:Jenny?
Leif:Yeah, he hooked up with a lot of girls.
Leif:Facts.
Leif:got his drink on with that wannabes Skype
Leif:Michelle guy.
Robin:Oh, yeah.
Leif:And then just when you thought the Nate and
Leif:Catherine story couldn't get any worse, now
Leif:she's literally paying him for sex.
Leif:Yes. Nate. Nate just became a prostitute.
Leif:Nate. Nate.
Leif:He's taking care of it.
Leif:How is this better than letting Chuck, ah, pay for it?
Leif:Yeah. In what way?
Leif:In what?
Leif:Yeah, but
Leif:thankfully, it looks like this story might be coming to an end, because
Leif:Blair walks in with Nate on top of the
Leif:duchess. Oh, my effing
Leif:God.
Leif:Yeah, it was, you know, one of those
Leif:predictable things. But she needs to go.
Leif:But also, like, she needs to
Leif:go. And at the end of this,
Leif:she still hasn't gone.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:We move into the ep blog. Nate gracefully leaves so
Leif:Blair can get her black back.
Leif:Blackmail.
Leif:on go, Blair.
Leif:Go.
Leif:Take the bitch down.
Leif:I love her face when she says, katherine
Leif:will be. Just a moment. it was that second that. It's like,
Leif:there she is.
Steve:Yes.
Robin:Yes.
Leif:There she is.
Robin:I wrote, I wrote it all caps. queen bee
Robin:reigns again.
Robin:It was Blair. Back to being Blair in
Robin:her best possible form.
Leif:And, we get. Marcus walks in, and Blair gets a
Leif:forced approval from katherine. It looks like
Leif:Marcus and Blair are Facebook official.
Leif:She had to get to know the real me.
Robin:So perfect.
Leif:Back at the wealth, we see a cute humphrey, reunion. Dan
Leif:reveals he's converting his short story into a chapter of a
Leif:novel.
Leif:I really sided with jenny when she said, someone
Leif:thinks that your life is pretty interesting.
Robin:I loved this whole scene so much. I love their family
Robin:banter. I think it is so sweet. I feel like those kids
Robin:didn't eat all summer because they were so darn excited to
Robin:see some good rufus home cooking.
Leif:Yeah, and it's two meals.
Robin:You know, it was just. It was just
Robin:sweet.
Leif:He has two meals that he cooks?
Leif:Yeah, pasta and waffles. Waffles and waffles?
Leif:Well, yeah, waffles, of course, but I haven't noticed
Leif:that it was only pasta for dinner. I thought there was.
Robin:There was a salad there.
Leif:Well. Cause Lily has commented on his cooking early
Leif:on. I forget what he did he make her just.
Robin:Wasn't it pasta sauce that he had made?
Robin:Hey, I don't care if he's a two trick pony. That's better
Robin:than, you know, ordering room service every
Robin:night. That I'm sure a lot of these other people are doing.
Leif:Fair.
Leif:Serena and Blair are having a sleepover, but Chuck
Leif:is also home. Serena takes
Leif:Chuck's drink and leaves the room. Blair has
Leif:won this round, but Chuck points out that tomorrow is another
Leif:day. How long are they going to play this out?
Leif:Just get these two kids together already.
Robin:Their flirt fighting is such a
Robin:highlight of this show for me. They have such
Robin:fantastic chemistry, and they both just. They
Robin:just play stereotypical villain
Robin:in love so. Well.
Leif:I love how when Blair
Leif:starts the conversation, he goes, that's not
Leif:sarcasm in your voice? She goes, no, it's
Leif:victory. And I also love how she said
Leif:she recognized. I think she has recognized something
Leif:in me. Or more like I recognize someone
Leif:in her.
Leif:Zing, zing.
Leif:Nate calls Vanessa and blows her off. If it was anyone
Leif:besides Vanessa, I would probably feel bad. As
Leif:Nate hangs up, we see Katherine get into the limo
Leif:and hand Nate an envelope. The limo pulls away,
Leif:and Nate is looking out the window forlornly.
Leif:Someone called the police. That woman is kidnapping a
Leif:child.
Leif:Blinking an so's.
Robin:Yeah. Nate's head against the window is, like, the
Robin:saddest moment of this entire episode. And,
Robin:despite all of your disdain for
Robin:Vanessa, I really did feel badly for her in this scene,
Robin:I thought she was trying to be so sweet to Nate
Robin:and set up that little chinese food,
Robin:little picnic for them.
Leif:Yeah.
Robin:Feel badly for her.
Leif:I felt bad for her because I. And like I've said, I
Leif:feel like Vanessa sucks less when
Leif:Nate is with her, and I really did feel
Leif:like this was such a shitty way for it to go. And
Leif:also, can this plotline end in handcuffs? And
Leif:I know it won't, but God damn, it
Leif:should.
Robin:Like, the child is holding an envelope of cash
Robin:with his head against the window.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah.
Robin:Like, someone help him.
Leif:This is. Yeah. Can you extradite
Leif:someone from England for,
Leif:Yeah. It's just sickening.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:So that is our episode. Any predictions for
Leif:next week?
Leif:My biggest prediction is that Catherine is
Leif:not going to receive the consequences she
Leif:deserves of being
Leif:a sex trafficker and
Leif:predator. Other than that, I think that.
Leif:I think this Dan Serena thing is just gonna
Leif:keep being silly for a while. I
Leif:hope not.
Robin:I want them to get back to being them and not just,
Robin:you know, horny bunny rabbits.
Leif:I feel like we're going to see horny bunny rabbits until
Leif:Georgina Sparks shows up mid season. When did
Leif:I. What was my other prediction? My midseason prediction.
Leif:You said they would. They would last a mid season.
Leif:Oh, yeah. So, okay, so I'm going to. I'm going to up
Leif:that prediction from mid season to
Leif:mid season when Georgina Sparks shows her.
Robin:Georgina is going to come back.
Leif:I think Georgina will be back just
Leif:because she's a great way to blow things up and great way
Leif:to mess it all up. And it'll be really
Leif:annoying. And it'll be really frustrating.
Robin:Then you'll be less annoyed with Vanessa because Georgina.
Leif:Yeah, Georgina will be there. Hopefully she's
Leif:banging Nate by then.
Leif:Maybe Georgina will be banging Nate.
Leif:All right.
Robin:I.
Leif:Maybe Vanessa and Georgina will be banging Nate.
Leif:Where? What kind of show?
Robin:Many options.
Leif:When is it? When did it switch to Max?
Robin:So many options.
Leif:Let's go ahead and move it to some segments.
Leif:Hello there. Peabody here. And this
Leif:is the wayback machine for traveling through time. And this
Leif:is my boy Sherman. Speak, Sherman.
Leif:Hello. Good boy.
Leif:So this week in fandom, the wayback, machine was
Leif:a little. Little rusty. The television without
Leif:pity message board, thread was missing for this
Leif:episode, so I had to go over to fan
Leif:forum.
Leif:It's weird that the regular write up
Leif:and the forums were all missing from.
Leif:Well, the write up is on
Leif:the episode thread. That's how you
Leif:normally get it from, right? Yeah.
Leif:so I also, I just I learned on the fan
Leif:forum that this is the first episode. And for
Leif:some time, Canada was getting the
Leif:episodes Sunday night while America was.
Leif:Getting it on Monday night. Whoa. So you could
Leif:see. You could spoil everything in Canada
Leif:if you want to do, or you could fake spoil
Leif:everything.
Steve:You could.
Leif:You could totally. Eric Bischoff, gossip girl
Leif:for the Americans.
Leif:Yeah. So they had specific spoiler rules
Leif:laid out in the thread.
Robin:So they get universal healthcare and poutine and
Robin:earlier episodes of Gossip Girl.
Leif:Indeed.
Leif:I'm just saying fans were desperate for more
Leif:Chuck and Blair. That was the biggest thing. And then
Leif:also, they were, they also noticed the weird vibes
Leif:from fruits and Vanessa.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah. They're pretty.
Leif:They're. They glare.
Leif:But, yeah, it was a, yeah, not. Not a lot of chatter on
Leif:that message board. It was all pretty similar. It's kind of just, like, repeating the
Leif:same thing. I like the Todd's rule, not pity.
Leif:That's more snarky fan base.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:So we'll go ahead and move into episode grades.
Leif:You, Steve, you want last. First. Last time. So I will
Leif:go first this time. I thought this
Leif:was a decent episode. It was definitely better than last week,
Leif:I thought, but it still wasn't a great episode, so I gave it a
Leif:b minus. Robin, what did you give
Leif:it?
Robin:I gave this episode a c.
Robin:I felt like they were trying to
Robin:prep us to basically say, here's what
Robin:happened over the summer, and here's what could be coming next
Robin:in the fall. And it felt like they were cramming a
Robin:lot of little tidbits into one episode, as opposed
Robin:to the big jaw dropping, which is sort of
Robin:what I enjoy about the show. so I thought it
Robin:was middle grain.
Leif:I gave it a c. I hated this
Leif:episode. I shouldn't say I hated it, but this was my least favorite
Leif:episode to date. I believe I gave it a c
Leif:minus. I thought the writing had some
Leif:good one liners and good
Leif:jabs, but it didn't have good
Leif:writing. Like, the writing wasn't the character,
Leif:the writing for the characters, even, like, the Nate
Leif:scene that I liked. Nate really
Leif:doesn't do that. You know, Nate doesn't joke
Leif:like that. So it felt like they just
Leif:didn't have the characters down.
Robin:Yeah. Whoever was writing for Blair this episode.
Leif:Was missed the mark.
Leif:I thought the plot was just ridiculous. The
Leif:Lords, the stepmother
Leif:is the lord. When it turned into a
Leif:soap opera, I thought it was ridiculous. I thought
Leif:Chuck was good. I liked. I liked
Leif:Chuck in this episode. I liked that it was another time
Leif:that we saw Chuck,
Leif:under plan a scheme that blew up in his
Leif:face in some way because Chuck is really good at
Leif:that. Like, you know, poison ivy when
Leif:he stalks. When he stalks
Leif:Serena, and it turns out it's Eric who is in
Leif:the hospital, in the rehab, and
Leif:nothing. Serena. And when he,
Leif:you know, lets out to gossip girl that Blair was
Leif:sleeping with two people, like, he does these
Leif:schemes and then doesn't shield himself
Leif:properly and it backfires on him.
Leif:And I kind of love that. That he's,
Leif:you know, really good at it, but he's still learning.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:So also, like, so in this episode, I mean, I do
Leif:kind of like the change of scenery, but I.
Leif:New York as a city is missing.
Leif:yeah. New York is such a character
Leif:in the show, and to do
Leif:two episodes out of it
Leif:does feel like a lot.
Leif:Yeah. The other thing I did forget
Leif:to mention, it was as we did finally get to see the
Leif:Vanderwitson pass.
Leif:Yes. Yeah, we did that.
Leif:It finally renovated.
Leif:Yes. They're staying in the palace
Leif:hotel all last, season.
Leif:Yeah.
Robin:Rough lives.
Leif:Moving on to stock watch.
Leif:Going up. I had Dan and
Leif:Serena because they just, you know, they had fun. You know,
Leif:they didn't solve their problems, but they got weighed a bunch.
Leif:So good, for them. I, gave
Leif:Vanessa stock up because, she was a good friend. Looks like she got
Leif:a job now, dude, helping out
Leif:Rufus, even though that's kind of weird, but good for
Leif:her. And also Blair, because
Leif:her schemes came out and she's now dating the
Leif:lord. She's Facebook
Leif:official.
Robin:I will give my stock on the rise
Robin:to, also to Blair and Vanessa.
Robin:Yeah, I thought Vanessa was trying to be a really good
Robin:friend to Nate and, oddly, to Rufus.
Robin:And I thought she just was giving good friend energy in this
Robin:episode. And also, despite Blair's
Robin:very messy start to the episode,
Robin:her monologue at the end of just tearing
Robin:down Catherine and
Robin:declaring victory over Chuck.
Robin:They're why Blair is my favorite character on parchment.
Leif:I'm sorry. I thought you were just a, washed up, has
Leif:been bleach bond swimsuit
Leif:model who married above our station.
Leif:What about you, Steve?
Leif:I had Chuck going up because I felt like Chuck, you know,
Leif:cashing out the. The shares to help his
Leif:buddy. I loved that. So Chuck went up
Leif:for me for once. Blair I had going
Leif:up at for the same reason. In the end, she
Leif:got to, she's with the. The.
Leif:Or, you know, the lord now that
Leif:she's getting to live her princess fantasy. And
Leif:Marcus, cuz he landed Blair. I mean, Blair,
Leif:she may be a lowly Waldorf but she's a handful,
Leif:and she wouldn't be hard for any
Leif:lord, I guess, to just be a
Leif:lord and Blair. Okay. Anyway, I
Leif:had Rufus's stock going up because family
Leif:and I also had Vanessa choice. Yeah,
Leif:I had Vanessa's stock going up because
Leif:she got a job, working for Rufus in a coffee shop
Leif:that she designed, and she kind of gets to be her own boss
Leif:for the most part. Like, she's working for rufus, but it
Leif:seems like she's going to get to kind of run this coffee shop
Leif:while being homeschooled, so that's kind of cool.
Leif:So going down. Too obvious. Catherine
Leif:and nate because captain's horrible, and Nate's just
Leif:being taken advantage of, so he's going down.
Leif:And I also had chuck going down because he
Leif:lost this episode. Clearly.
Leif:I mean, he did lose. I did know that. I did.
Leif:I think he tried to do a good thing for Nate, but it didn't
Leif:really work out.
Leif:Yeah, it's true.
Leif:So he just sold his. Sold his, prize for nothing.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah.
Robin:I also had katherine and nate. Katherine's stock is in the
Robin:negative. As negative as negative can be.
Robin:And just poor, sweet Nate. I
Robin:mean, poor, sweet Nate. Just the head against the
Robin:window, people. That's all you need to know.
Leif:Yeah. I had Nate and Catherine going down.
Leif:Nate, of course, for money.
Robin:ayo.
Leif:I had Dan and serena going down, mostly because I
Leif:was just. Well, because they could.
Leif:Because you got to get up to get
Leif:down.
Leif:Got to get up, get down. And they just. They really just
Leif:annoyed the shit out of me this whole episode there. and
Leif:then I also had Anne. Her
Leif:stock continues to plummet. She's
Leif:cut off and banished to the Hamptons
Leif:with her garden. With her garden. With her
Leif:gigantic garden and beachfront property. That's
Leif:the life you are now cursed with.
Leif:You may only have the gold card. The
Leif:platinum stays with us. But here's
Leif:the best outfits from the last
Leif:episode we seen.
Leif:Moving on to best outfit,
Leif:I had Serena's blue starry night
Leif:alter dress by Adam long did she wear at the party?
Robin:I was so excited about this because I
Robin:typically have trouble picking out a favorite
Robin:outfit, but this one jumped off the screen to me when
Robin:Chuck met Katherine for the first time. And he
Robin:was wearing this sort of maroon purple
Robin:suit with this light pink, maybe pinstripe shirt
Robin:underneath. And I just thought it was a stunning color,
Robin:combination. Also, Chuck's new hairdo
Robin:is growing on me in this episode. I still hate it.
Robin:I hated it at first, but he.
Leif:Still looks, like, definitely better than the first season.
Robin:He still looks a little bit like Count chocula or Count
Robin:Chocula.
Robin:But I loved the outfit.
Leif:Chuck always looks good for the George Clooney. Bruce
Leif:Wayne.
Leif:Yeah. Ah, yeah.
Robin:It's growing amazing.
Leif:Bruce Wayne. He,
Leif:Chuck wears a lot of purples, which I think is like a
Leif:royalty. I think that that's meant to be, like, a royalty
Leif:play, but he always looks good in it.
Leif:I had. I picked Jenny's outfit at the
Leif:very end. It's that, like, blue
Leif:and red halter top with,
Leif:like. It looked like it went into the whole outfit.
Leif:It was a dress.
Leif:Yeah, it was a dress. Yeah. It was really super
Leif:cute.
Leif:Like a butterfly necklace thingy.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah.
Robin:Listening to my husband talk about clothes will never not be
Robin:funny. For anyone that has ever seen this
Robin:man, he wears a graphic tee and
Robin:basketball shorts. Unless you have to tell
Robin:him to not wear a graphic tee in basketball
Robin:shorts. So just the outfits
Robin:of the episode are probably my favorite part of this podcast.
Leif:To be fair, there are times when I, I'm wearing a
Leif:bathrobe and not the
Leif:basketball shorts,
Leif:but if.
Robin:I'm leaving the house, that's more about your fashion choices. Steve.
Robin:I love it.
Leif:Well, that is it for segments.
Leif:actually, I did want to really quickly, we've brought
Leif:up fashion, and we talk about it every episode over
Leif:and over, and yet we have never mentioned Eric
Leif:Damon on this podcast. And I
Leif:feel like that, this is a good point to give him a shout
Leif:out, because he is the.
Leif:He's the fashion designer for the show, and
Leif:what episode of this show does not pop
Leif:head to toe on every single character?
Leif:So he does an absolutely very good job.
Leif:He's. He actually worked with Blake Lively on a new project
Leif:that's coming up soon, too, called, it ends with
Leif:us.
Leif:Probably won't watch that, but probably not.
Leif:Comes out in August. I'll forget about
Leif:it by the time.
Leif:So that is it for segments. So let's go
Leif:ahead and move it to some plug. But first, Robin, thank you very
Leif:much for joining us.
Robin:Yeah, thanks for having me.
Leif:Thank you very much. The Kylie Kelsey of
Leif:the non judging breakfast bod.
Robin:It's an honor as a philadelphian. It is an honor to
Robin:be in any. The same sentence as Kylie Kelsey. I'll take
Robin:it.
Leif:Is there anything you would like to plug at this time?
Robin:no. My social media
Robin:consists of stepchildren and step cats, so
Robin:it is private because no one needs or wants
Robin:to see my beautiful stepchildren and
Robin:my two lovely cats.
Leif:Any other shows you're watching lately.
Robin:Oh, my gosh.
Leif:Any recommendations?
Robin:Oh, leaf, don't. That's a pandora's box. I don't know if that one
Robin:open.
Leif:she watches a lot of the prison documentary
Leif:shows. I. Life after
Leif:lockup.
Robin:Life after. Oh, God, it's my favorite. Vanderpump rules.
Leif:Vanderpump rules.
Robin:Bravo, girl. I love a good prison inmate
Robin:show. Yeah.
Leif:Yeah. Robin. Robin.
Robin:Trash.
Leif:Garbage is pretty much my likes
Leif:reality tv a lot.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah. When? When. Yeah.
Leif:So anything you want to plug for this, Steve? this should be
Leif:coming out on August 26.
Leif:August 26. I don't know that I have
Leif:anything lined up at this time,
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Steve:Every time you walk away I run away you take a piece
Steve:of me with you there
Steve:every time you walk away I run away you take a
Steve:piece of m me with you there
Steve:every time you walk away and run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:oh, it seems I'm walking right to
Steve:your door.
Leif:My heart's.
Steve:Still resting looking for something
Steve:more.
Robin:Are.
Steve:You ever gonna see everything you mean to me
Steve:trying really hard to believe
Steve:every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:never feels right when I'm out here on my
Steve:own
Steve:I left last night and it feels like
Steve:way too long
Steve:are you ever gonna see everything you mean to
Steve:me? I'm trying really hard to believe
Steve:every time you walk away, run away you take a piece
Steve:of me with you there
Steve:every time you walk away, run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there.
Leif:Come.
Steve:Back to me
Steve:smile and you'll make my life
Steve:complete
Steve:every time you walk away I run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:ah every time you walk away
Steve:or run away you take a piece of me with you
Steve:there every time you walk
Steve:away, run away you take a piece of me
Steve:with you there every
Steve:time you walk away, run away you take a piece of me
Steve:me with you there
Steve:every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there.