Gossip Girl S209 - There Might Be Blood [w/Jean-Paul Mantilla]

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What I'm saying is, if it wasn't the limo, he might have gone for it.

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Jean-Paul: I mean, again, Chuck is shocked. Does whatever

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Chuck wants with it.

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Hey up, residers. And all you scandal loving listeners out

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there, you just tuned into the non judging breakfast

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pod where the coffee is strong, the waffles

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are fresh, and the gossip is hotter than ever.

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My name is Leif, and I'm your seasoned gossip girl

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veteran.

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And I'm Steve the newbie, the greenhorn,

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the, I don't know, Leif. What do you call the fresh meat in gossip girl

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terms?

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I don't know.

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Let's get you some bacardi and see what happens.

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Hey. All right, well, I'm ready to start a fashion show at this point,

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I feel.

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Sounds good.

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So here's the deal, folks. Leif has been watching Gossip girl

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since it first aired, and I'm diving in for the very first

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time. And together, we're your dynamic duo, bringing you

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all the glamour, romance, and

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sometimes questionable fashion choices of this

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iconic 2007 series.

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That's right. Each week we're going to take a deep dive into the

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show one episode at a time. We're going to be looking

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at all the obscure references,

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parallels, and sometimes the couture

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catastrophes. We're also going to take a look at the

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Phantom stories and some behind the scenes gossip along the

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way.

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And since we're all about inclusivity here at the non judging

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breakfast pod, there's always a seat for you at the non judging

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breakfast table. So go ahead and grab your mimosa,

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your cup of coffee, or some of Chuck and Nate

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special medicine, and let's go ahead and get this

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started.

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Okay, Steve, once again, we are not

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alone. We got another guest with us.

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Yes, please welcome. This week we have with us John

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Paul from the last roundup horror

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pod horror show podcast

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and the WTF did I just watch?

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Podcast. welcome, Jean Paul.

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Thanks for joining us.

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Thank you very much for joining us.

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Jean-Paul: Hey, thanks for having me.

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Absolutely.

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So being on the show with us, could you

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give us a little bit of your history with

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Gossip Girl? Because I know you said you and your wife watched,

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I believe, during the pandemic. Yeah.

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Jean-Paul: So, yeah, that was my only, like,

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my introduction, like, during the pandemic, you know, we were all

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locked up, looking for stuff to watch, looking for stuff to

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do. And my wife

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knows that one of my biggest

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weakness in life is teen

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melodramas. And I don't know

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how Gossip girl missed me

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because, you know, I grew up with,

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you know, like, I don't know, das

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freak, you know, a lot of the CW

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WP shows.

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Yeah, yeah. And, yeah, I was the same way.

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Jean-Paul: And I like this just Fitzhen perfectly. And she's

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like, what do you think? You've never watched Gossip Girl? And I'm like,

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well, I've heard of it, you know? Cause I also used to watch

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one Tree hill and all of those kind of shows. Even 7th

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heaven. Like I said, I was one of those kids that.

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Yeah, I was left out, on, the fantasy of

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fake romance on tv.

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Yeah.

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Jean-Paul: I'm like, yeah, I have a crush on that girl because, you know,

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she was x person.

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Just as a reminder, Steve has not seen past this

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episode. no spoilers.

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Jean-Paul: Oh, no, I won't. I won't spoil anything,

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but, yeah.

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So you have a, favorite or least

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favorite character or both.

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Jean-Paul: Oh, gosh. On Gossip Girl

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with the least favorite character,

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I mean, right from the back, you're supposed to

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hate, you know, the bass man, I

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guess.

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Yeah, he is a bass

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man.

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Jean-Paul: Yeah. But the problem is,

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as the show.

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Progresses, I had to enjoy

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trying to force you to like them.

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Jean-Paul: exactly. So it's like they

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succeeded.

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and is that your favorite character, then?

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Jean-Paul: No, that's. That's still kind of my least favorite.

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Favorite.

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It's nothing wrong with that. A lot of it is. A lot of people's favorite characters.

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Jean-Paul: I know, I know. But favorite. It

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really is a toss up between

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Blair and good old Humphrey

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Dan.

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Good choices. Good choices.

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Jean-Paul: Only because, I mean,

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I have. I mean, again, after watching

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Gossip Girl and that show you came out on

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Netflix, which originally was on lifetime.

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That's. Again, I know team bell drama, so I know stuff like

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that. I was just like, oh, my gosh,

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Gossip Girl is almost like a prequel story to the show.

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You maybe in my head canon. That is what

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I'd say. And I'm going to go with it because

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I've heard that a lot of.

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People have said that it just fits perfectly,

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so.

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Yeah, I haven't watched you for that reason, because

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I want to watch you with that headcanon.

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Jean-Paul: Well, then definitely wait until you get done, with this show,

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because, yeah.

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It'Ll give you a nice couple years.

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Yeah, I've got a couple years, but. But, you know, you

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won't go anywhere.

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Jean-Paul: I mean, I think it ends this year, but you'll

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have all of them on Netflix forever.

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Yep.

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Jean-Paul: so, yeah, I don't know. Serena is another,

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like. But they make you lover. That's the thing.

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So.

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So that's why they make me hate Serena.

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Well, or Serena makes me hate Serena.

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Jean-Paul: Yeah, exactly. But Blair, I don't know. There's just

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something about her, and the actress that plays

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her is just entertaining with her, like, quirkiness.

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So, yeah, Blair is probably my favorite.

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and there are episodes a lot about her acting.

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Jean-Paul: Yeah, there are episodes where I'm just like, hate you

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in this episode, but.

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That'S what a good character does.

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Jean-Paul: Exactly.

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A good character. You should not like them all the

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time, and you shouldn't like all the decisions they make,

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because then what's to like about them? You

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know? I, I think that I'm at a point now with

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Gossip Girl where Dan has turned from being

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my favorite character, and

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I've grown to like him less. But a

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lot of that's because he's making

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decisions that I think are shitty, which are really great

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character decisions, despite how shitty

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yeah, they are.

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Jean-Paul: I did not agree with you more on that.

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Yeah, I think Jenny is actually my favorite

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character. I think mine and I always root for

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Jenny to win. Okay.

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Yeah.

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it's kind of a mixed bag.

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Oh. The only time

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I've ever really been upset with Jenny was when

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she fucked with Eric, you know, when she was

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shitty to Eric like that. Like,

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no way off, my boy.

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So we are here to talk about season two,

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episode nine, there might be

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blood. This originally aired

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on November 3, 2008, and

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the title was based on the. Of course, the movie there will

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be blood. The, 2007 Paul Thomas

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Anderson, Daniel Day Lewis, all that.

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That's the name I was trying to remember. I

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remember seeing that. I mean, it got such

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rave reviews.

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It was well shot.

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It was great.

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The acting was amazing. It was boring movie.

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Boring.

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See, nothing really happened. Nothing happened.

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I've been afraid to say that for 20 years because,

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see, I agree.

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Jean-Paul: With m you saying that nothing happens but the end,

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that kind of the way it

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ends, where it's just kind.

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Of like, you got a miserable

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bastard.

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Jean-Paul: You'Re just a mislead, and you got screwed no matter

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what.

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Yeah.

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Jean-Paul: That's really what got me. That's what. What made me say,

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wow, Daniel Day Lewis,

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you definitely are one of the best actors around.

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Yeah.

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Oh, yeah. It's marvelously acted by him and

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Paul.

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Jean-Paul: Dare they?

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Yeah. Yeah. I feel like they could have

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taken an hour out of that movie and moved

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it along a little bit better. And I always felt like it was too

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long to not have stuff to

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be that slow.

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Jean-Paul: That's Paul. That's Paul Thomas Anderson. As a director, though, he

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loves just long run times. And you know, it's

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him. Tarantino and Gorzez. I

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mean, again, they're wonderful directors and

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everything, and they make good movies, but sometimes it's like,

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learn how to edit your movie,

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please.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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I didn't even really mind that. I just like to see some.

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Some character development.

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Jean-Paul: All right, this.

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Didn't this come out around the time of old country

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for no men? Two.

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A, couple years after.

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Jean-Paul: Yeah, it was a year after. A couple years after. Yeah.

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I just remember kind of. They kind of occupy some of the

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same space in my brain of. I remember

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old country for no men, being like, this is.

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This is good, but I. But it's slow,

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like, that same kind of feel to it.

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Well, I thought that was much m better, pace,

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but it was ruined by the ending.

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Maybe that's what I'm thinking. I haven't seen either of those

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movies since they hit DB.

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Well, the ending was that he wake is all a dream.

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he wakes up, and it's all a dream.

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That's stupid. Spoiler alert.

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Jean-Paul: Spoiler alert.

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Too bad, you've had 20 years to watch

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that and even longer

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to read the book.

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Television without pity. Jacob recaps the

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episode. Blair spends the

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entire episode chasing a young, crazy girl

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around the Upper east side after Serena offers

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her services as babysitter to order another

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Yale connection, young Emma is determined

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to lose her epitomous virginity.

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Ew. Before her friend Muffy.

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Yeah. And takes the combined

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forces of an errand distracted Serena and

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a chivalrous chuck to keep her in the

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Trina, Agnes.

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And Jenny plan a guerrilla

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fashion show at a charity ball, which turns

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out to be honoring Bart and Lily.

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Rufus goes completely crazy and tries to have

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little J arrested for the stunt, but Lily

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steps in because it was awesome. And then

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Rufus cries the tears of a slightly

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involved, very shitty parent.

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Jenny runs off through the streets of Brooklyn with only

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her sewing machine and about 40 pounds of

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eyeshadow. Homeless Cinderella Jenny is

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even cooler than regular Jenny, which is only

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slightly cooler than the totally awesome, insane

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Agnes.

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Rufus somewhat redeems himself by lecturing

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Dan about how not everyone is a wunderkin,

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but Dan is so jealous of the attention little J

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is getting that he ends up writing the Charlie trout story

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after all, selling his soul and signing

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one more page of the massive death warrant he

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keeps begging Jeff to put on him.

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Speaking of slight, speaking of slightly

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douchey artist Serena has loved,

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she spends the entire time obsessing

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over Aaron, who is bigger, who's a bigger whore than Nate

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Archibald ever was. Serena,

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having never worked for anything in her

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entire life. Loves the idea of actually

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dating someone with as much Serena

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power as she herself has. Although I

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believe that the. Much like Chuck Aaron's

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grodyness power is contained in his giant

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stupid scars.

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After spotting Nate and Jenny kissing on Gossip

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Girl, snapped by Lil Serena from

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attack of the clones in Central Park, Dan

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makes it very clear that Nate's history of

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prostitution is not cool and

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tosses him out of the Humphrey house on his ass.

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Nice to have d bag dan back after

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last week. And even nicer to see him slipping down

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that slippery ethical slope so quickly.

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Chuck comes running to save Nate, of

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course, and realizes how out of control

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things have gotten. But Nate's pride

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keeps him from giving in to Chuck's tender

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ministrations, and he runs off to the

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Hampsons to sit out what would seem

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to be the most omfg

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episode of all time next week.

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Meanwhile, Vanessa flips out after seeing

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Nate and Jenny kissing in real life and

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hopefully jumps off a roof. Their words, not

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mine.

Leif: 00:12:21

John Paul, you were. You say you watched a lot of

Leif: 00:12:24

tea dramas. Did you ever frequent, television

Leif: 00:12:27

without pity?

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Jean-Paul: Oh, man, not

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really.

Steve: 00:12:33

Yeah. we always like to get the. Was this the playlist

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again? Was this back to the. I know you were telling me

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about it before, but I only kind of. This is a good one.

Steve: 00:12:41

Again, we.

Leif: 00:12:42

Oh, yeah. So, yeah, we've, They stopped using,

Leif: 00:12:45

like, we were doing that one that they would do, like a short

Leif: 00:12:48

one in the thread, in the episode thread. But then

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that stopped for whatever reason. I guess that guy stopped watching it at

Leif: 00:12:54

the end of season or the last one he did was the season two

Leif: 00:12:57

premiere.

Steve: 00:12:57

Yeah.

Leif: 00:12:58

And then. So we decided to go back to the

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full one. That, Jake was actually pretty famous.

Leif: 00:13:04

Like, you think he actually still now is like an, ah,

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entertainment writer.

Steve: 00:13:08

Oh, good.

Leif: 00:13:09

Like, he worked most of the. Most of the staff

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writers from Telly went on to become,

Leif: 00:13:15

like, magazine writers.

Steve: 00:13:16

Oh, that's awesome.

Leif: 00:13:17

Yeah, of course, that's back to writing online

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now.

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So this episode, speaking of writing, it was written

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by Eitan Fields. This is

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the first of two episodes that he did, but any co

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wrote it with John Stevens and that this is his second

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episode. He also wrote the Dark Knight earlier this

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season.

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Oh, okay.

Leif: 00:13:40

And then it was directed by Michael Fields,

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who's back. He did roman holiday,

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desperately seeking Serena and never been

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Marcus. Roman holiday was good episode. The other

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two, not so much. Yeah, not necessarily

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fault of the direct.

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Ah, no, no, not at all. Especially def.

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Yeah, both of those were in that

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phase. In that, post writers strike.

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Pre pre getting to

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where they are. Reboot. Yeah.

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So let's go ahead and get into act

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one. Spotted at

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mood. Jenny Humphrey, 16 yards

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of tool. But since when does Eleanor

Leif: 00:14:21

Waldorf pay for her purchases with a penny jar?

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They say stitch in time saves nine.

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Will it save little

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JDev? Pretty good

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one.

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Yeah. Yeah.

Leif: 00:14:33

Jenny and Agnes are preparing for a fashion show

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and talking about Nate freezing Jenny out since

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last week. So, yeah, this is

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an, opening scene. You got Jenny and Agnes, you know,

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rushing around the loft, getting ready and talking

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about how Nate's been blowing Jenny off.

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Yeah. Which, you know, I can see how that

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would be upsetting to Jenny.

Leif: 00:14:54

Yeah.

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But also, I can understand Nate.

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You see what happens once everyone finds out, so. Yeah,

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it's definitely understandable.

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Yeah.

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Nate and Dan are discussing Jenny, and

Leif: 00:15:08

Nate is being evasive when Dan gets a call from

Leif: 00:15:11

Jordan. Dan is all up in his own, head

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again. Although once again, we find out he was right

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to be up inside of this time.

Steve: 00:15:18

Yeah. Yeah, he was. And

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also, what he's like, it's good to be

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Nate because he doesn't remember this woman

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that he was, like, making out with

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a couple weeks ago at, Yale

Steve: 00:15:32

again.

Leif: 00:15:33

So I got on Aaron last

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week for, like, tolerating

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shitty behavior to people he doesn't care about.

Leif: 00:15:41

Just being selective about shitty behavior.

Leif: 00:15:44

Yeah, and I got called dad out for kind of the

Leif: 00:15:47

same thing here because he was fine with

Leif: 00:15:49

Napiane, the sleazeball with his

Leif: 00:15:52

ta, but once it's a sister, it's a different story.

Steve: 00:15:55

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,

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you're right on that.

Leif: 00:16:00

Serena and Blair are meeting with a friend of Dean

Leif: 00:16:02

Barabe's. Serena volunteers Blair to babysit

Leif: 00:16:05

the woman's daughter. No way this could possibly go wrong.

Steve: 00:16:11

Yeah. Your thoughts, John Paul?

Leif: 00:16:13

So, yeah, feel free to jump

Leif: 00:16:16

in at any time.

Steve: 00:16:17

Yeah.

Steve: 00:16:17

Jean-Paul: Well, I'll just go back to the whole. The beginning

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with Jenny and everything and heard,

Steve: 00:16:23

like, she's very neurotic in this episode.

Steve: 00:16:26

Like, and I don't know if it's, like, it's the

Steve: 00:16:29

stress of her trying to get

Steve: 00:16:32

this, guerrilla Sasha show going or what it

Steve: 00:16:35

was, but,

Leif: 00:16:37

Even I think it's a combination of the. Yeah, it's that

Leif: 00:16:40

and also stressy about what's Nate thinking?

Leif: 00:16:43

Jean-Paul: What's nate thinking? Yeah.

Leif: 00:16:44

Wait a minute.

Leif: 00:16:45

Jean-Paul: Yeah, and. And even, like. Like I said,

Leif: 00:16:48

I don't know. I don't want to jump ahead and

Leif: 00:16:51

rate this yet, but, the.

Leif: 00:16:54

The interactions, at the beginning of Jenny and

Leif: 00:16:57

Nate kind of really just. It

Leif: 00:17:00

seemed kind of off to me compared to the previous

Leif: 00:17:03

episode.

Steve: 00:17:04

Yeah. Yeah.

Steve: 00:17:05

Jean-Paul: So I guess, yeah. Maybe it does give you that feel of,

Steve: 00:17:08

like, you know, something happens, so they're kind of avoiding

Steve: 00:17:11

each other because something happened, you know, got a

Steve: 00:17:14

cliche. I mean, this

Steve: 00:17:16

storyline, like I said, because I know teen

Steve: 00:17:19

melodramas is very similar in a bunch

Steve: 00:17:22

of other shows where, you know,

Steve: 00:17:25

the sibling has now made

Steve: 00:17:28

out with the other sibling's friend and those

Steve: 00:17:31

kind of things, and, like, the. The weird

Steve: 00:17:33

entrapment of what's going to happen next.

Steve: 00:17:37

The execution is not as well

Steve: 00:17:40

as I've seen it in other shows in this

Steve: 00:17:42

episode and for the show,

Steve: 00:17:45

in.

Steve: 00:17:46

My opinion, which kind of happens a lot. Yeah.

Steve: 00:17:48

Yeah.

Steve: 00:17:50

Jean-Paul: I mean, I don't want to jump ahead, so I'll wait until you get

Steve: 00:17:52

to brother Barnes in it.

Leif: 00:17:55

No problem. Serena runs into Erin as she's

Leif: 00:17:58

about to look past the fact that he was with another woman

Leif: 00:18:01

last week when yet another woman

Leif: 00:18:03

runs up and kisses him, on the mouth.

Leif: 00:18:06

Jean-Paul: On the mouth.

Steve: 00:18:07

Runs up and kisses him on the mouth.

Steve: 00:18:09

Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Leif: 00:18:12

I mean, yeah, that happens.

Steve: 00:18:14

Yeah.

Leif: 00:18:15

Yeah. I felt like this episode was very even.

Leif: 00:18:18

I'll get into it more as we get to the grays, but, yeah.

Leif: 00:18:21

Like, the one storyline was really good. I thought this storyline was not

Leif: 00:18:24

as good.

Steve: 00:18:24

Yeah. Yeah.

Leif: 00:18:25

And also, the Blair storyline was not great

Leif: 00:18:28

either.

Steve: 00:18:29

Yeah. And. And it's funny because we talked last

Steve: 00:18:31

week about how. Or maybe it was two

Steve: 00:18:34

weeks ago about how this show will run

Steve: 00:18:37

three plot lines and tie all

Steve: 00:18:40

three plot lines up at the end of the, you, know, they'll run

Steve: 00:18:43

three stories an episode and tie them all

Steve: 00:18:46

up and to varying degrees of

Steve: 00:18:49

success. And really, I feel like

Steve: 00:18:52

the a storyline of Jenny

Steve: 00:18:54

was great. Like you said, the b

Steve: 00:18:57

storyline of Blair, I thought Washington. All right.

Steve: 00:19:00

I thought it. I thought it was a really weird one.

Leif: 00:19:02

Yeah.

Steve: 00:19:03

And then the sea storyline of

Steve: 00:19:05

Serena and Aaron is just like, why are we doing this?

Leif: 00:19:08

Aaron is a real dud of a character.

Steve: 00:19:10

Yeah. Why. Why are we doing this?

Steve: 00:19:13

Can she hand him some coke?

Leif: 00:19:16

Dan and Nate gets back to the loft, and just in time to see

Leif: 00:19:19

Jenny and Agnes leaving to set up the fashion show.

Leif: 00:19:22

Busted.

Steve: 00:19:24

Ah. such a judgey dick, too.

Steve: 00:19:26

He's. Yeah, Dan.

Steve: 00:19:29

Like, I mean.

Leif: 00:19:30

I mean, he's conflicted about the whole thing.

Steve: 00:19:33

I mean, he doesn't really know what she's doing other than

Steve: 00:19:36

just putting all of these outfits together to do a big

Steve: 00:19:39

show. Like, she's not it. To his

Steve: 00:19:42

knowledge, she's not doing anything illegal.

Leif: 00:19:44

Well, I. His issue is that she's just not telling

Leif: 00:19:47

Rufus.

Steve: 00:19:48

Yeah. So don't tell Rufus. Be a big brother

Steve: 00:19:51

for once.

Leif: 00:19:53

he does tell Rufus. Well, after it's like

Leif: 00:19:55

over.

Leif: 00:19:56

Jean-Paul: Yeah, but I think he's also at that line of, being

Leif: 00:19:59

a big brother.

Leif: 00:20:01

Yeah. He tells Rufus when

Leif: 00:20:04

Rufus sees them.

Steve: 00:20:05

Leaving, he tells Rufus as soon as he has the

Steve: 00:20:08

opportunity to tell they.

Leif: 00:20:09

Were at Rufus the gallery.

Steve: 00:20:11

I'm saying that Rufus walks in and he's like, I'm afraid she's making a

Steve: 00:20:13

mistake.

Leif: 00:20:14

I don't think he told her then. I don't think he told him that.

Steve: 00:20:17

The next time we see them, they're chasing them down.

Leif: 00:20:20

No, they're just walking up and then they see them, like

Leif: 00:20:23

taking off.

Leif: 00:20:24

Jean-Paul: Yeah, because I think he had already. He

Leif: 00:20:27

kisses them all together. when they see him, they were all

Leif: 00:20:30

together. But then he does end up kissing they and that's when

Leif: 00:20:33

they see it, and everything. But, but all. But

Leif: 00:20:36

also, I mean, Dan, Dan is playing

Leif: 00:20:39

that, like middle of the road type rather

Leif: 00:20:42

that you're like, you want to help and support

Leif: 00:20:44

your sister but you also kind of want to be

Leif: 00:20:47

a big brother and like, protect

Leif: 00:20:50

them and also like, be like,

Leif: 00:20:53

well, I'm the big brother, so I'm in charge of you. That kind of

Leif: 00:20:56

thing. yeah,

Leif: 00:20:59

it's that balance.

Leif: 00:21:00

It's a big thing. Yeah. She's already dropped out of school,

Leif: 00:21:03

now she's left her job and it's like,

Leif: 00:21:06

what's going on? Talk to your dad.

Leif: 00:21:08

Basically, that's basically all Dan's saying, I think.

Steve: 00:21:11

Yeah, and, yeah, I I really. Yeah.

Steve: 00:21:14

And we'll get to it in a little bit. But I really think he told

Steve: 00:21:17

Rufus right away. Like, I got the impression he told

Steve: 00:21:19

Rufus immediately.

Leif: 00:21:22

It appears Blair is in for more than

Leif: 00:21:25

Serena bargained for. When little Emma

Leif: 00:21:27

comes, out in the club attire and proclaims,

Leif: 00:21:30

I want Bacardi and a boy and this body is

Leif: 00:21:33

open for business.

Leif: 00:21:37

yeah, just what you want every 13 year old girls.

Steve: 00:21:40

Yeah, that was that storyline

Steve: 00:21:43

of. I. Yeah, go ahead.

Steve: 00:21:44

Jean-Paul: I was a. So, so she. I'm glad you clarified

Steve: 00:21:47

her age because,

Steve: 00:21:50

boy, did I think she was younger.

Leif: 00:21:52

Well, I. She could be younger. I

Leif: 00:21:55

thought. I thought she was at least like middle school.

Leif: 00:21:57

Jean-Paul: Yeah, that's what I thought. Like, so, so, middle schools are like twelve years old.

Leif: 00:22:00

And that's why I was just like, it's almost cringe

Leif: 00:22:03

worthy moment she comes out and then she's just

Leif: 00:22:06

like, I've got, you know, a

Leif: 00:22:09

credit card and a fake id, and I'm just like, oh, my gosh.

Leif: 00:22:12

Just. No, no. This is just too

Leif: 00:22:15

cringy. This is too weird.

Steve: 00:22:18

Yeah.

Leif: 00:22:19

Although, fair enough that the show actually finally pointed out

Leif: 00:22:22

fake id. These kids, you know, must have fake

Leif: 00:22:25

ids. Yeah, they'd be going to the bar since they're

Leif: 00:22:27

13.

Steve: 00:22:29

This scene also, we learned that Serena was eight

Steve: 00:22:32

when she met Erin, who is, you know, the

Steve: 00:22:35

possible college graduate now talking to

Steve: 00:22:38

this senior. So I wonder, if she was

Steve: 00:22:40

eight, he may have been as old as, like,

Steve: 00:22:43

twelve. Like, that's

Steve: 00:22:46

just fucking weird.

Steve: 00:22:48

Jean-Paul: That is weird.

Steve: 00:22:48

yeah.

Leif: 00:22:49

Yeah.

Steve: 00:22:49

The other thing I wanted to point out, though, the girl playing

Steve: 00:22:52

Emma, I really liked her. I really liked the

Steve: 00:22:55

acting. I really liked how she played off of

Steve: 00:22:58

stuff like her. Look, when Serena's like, you're gonna have to

Steve: 00:23:01

raid my closet. Like, I thought that she really

Steve: 00:23:04

came across as that, like, little girl. Kind

Steve: 00:23:07

of the excitement, the fan. The

Steve: 00:23:10

little fan girl kind of stuff. I appreciated.

Leif: 00:23:13

Dan gets the full story from Jenny, who

Leif: 00:23:15

puts all her cards on the table and puts her fate

Leif: 00:23:18

in her brother's hands. Dan does the

Leif: 00:23:21

brother thing and gives Jenny the few hours she

Leif: 00:23:24

needs.

Steve: 00:23:25

Yeah. This is also

Steve: 00:23:28

when Vanessa was really judgy about Nate.

Steve: 00:23:30

Right?

Leif: 00:23:31

Like, that's when they're at the gallery.

Steve: 00:23:33

Oh, this is.

Leif: 00:23:34

They're still at the loft here. Oh, okay.

Steve: 00:23:36

Okay.

Steve: 00:23:36

Jean-Paul: Yeah, because they're going back and forth, I think, when. With

Steve: 00:23:39

the. With Vanessa, like,

Steve: 00:23:42

figuring out whether she's still,

Steve: 00:23:46

well, appeared yet. Oh, okay.

Leif: 00:23:48

I don't think Vanessa's actually appeared yet.

Leif: 00:23:50

Jean-Paul: Okay, so this is before that. Okay.

Steve: 00:23:52

Yeah, this.

Leif: 00:23:53

This is where they're stuck a lot. Like, there's, like, a little break. Like when

Leif: 00:23:56

they, like, Dan sees them leaving and there's, like, there's

Leif: 00:23:59

a break. And then, now we come back and she explains everything.

Leif: 00:24:02

Jean-Paul: Okay.

Leif: 00:24:03

And Dan decides to. Dan does let her leave,

Leif: 00:24:05

basically at that point. And then the next

Leif: 00:24:08

scene is Blair is bitching out Serena for getting

Leif: 00:24:11

her into the mms. They also discuss Aaron, and

Leif: 00:24:14

Blair tells Serena to shut that shit down. I agree.

Leif: 00:24:18

Serena and Blair come up with a plan to keep Emma

Leif: 00:24:21

occupied.

Steve: 00:24:22

I jumped ahead. That's why I messed it

Steve: 00:24:24

up.

Leif: 00:24:25

Yeah. So this is where they. They come up with the plan to take her to the.

Leif: 00:24:28

The old people event.

Steve: 00:24:30

Yeah.

Leif: 00:24:31

Oh, I didn't know he'd be the sport.

Leif: 00:24:34

Jean-Paul: Yeah, that whole scene was really odd.

Leif: 00:24:38

Again, it just. Just. Cause I don't know,

Leif: 00:24:41

that whole, like, plan to trick

Leif: 00:24:44

a girl to get the flowers by,

Leif: 00:24:47

you know, the, lead.

Steve: 00:24:48

Trying.

Steve: 00:24:50

Jean-Paul: But.

Leif: 00:24:50

Well, they're not. They're not trying to get her to fly. You're trying to just keep

Leif: 00:24:53

her. Well.

Steve: 00:24:54

Yeah.

Leif: 00:24:55

Not gonna get. She's not gonna get the flower.

Leif: 00:24:56

Jean-Paul: No. But. But. But the fact that they said to her, hey.

Leif: 00:24:59

Oh, yeah.

Leif: 00:25:00

Jean-Paul: Well, let's go somewhere, you know, better,

Leif: 00:25:03

and instead of just, you know, behind this. This

Leif: 00:25:05

guy's alley, so to speak.

Steve: 00:25:08

Yeah. To promise the 13 year old we're gonna

Steve: 00:25:11

go find you. Sex at the elite.

Steve: 00:25:12

Jean-Paul: Yeah.

Steve: 00:25:13

Then is a little weird.

Steve: 00:25:14

Jean-Paul: So weird.

Leif: 00:25:16

Well, I assume

Leif: 00:25:19

what, Emma was thinking was probably, like, a party with,

Leif: 00:25:21

like, the Nate and chucks of the world, right?

Steve: 00:25:23

Exactly.

Leif: 00:25:24

Which she then ends up finding, of course. Yeah.

Leif: 00:25:27

Jean-Paul: Yeah.

Leif: 00:25:28

Without any help at the gallery.

Leif: 00:25:31

Actually, one more thing for that scene. And you were talking about her being all

Leif: 00:25:34

excited for the dresses. How is she

Leif: 00:25:37

fitting into these dresses?

Steve: 00:25:38

Oh, yeah. Oh, she is. She

Steve: 00:25:41

is. Arena.

Leif: 00:25:42

These are plus one dresses. I guess they're.

Steve: 00:25:45

They're magic. Plus one dresses, they resize.

Steve: 00:25:47

They automatically resize to your dear build.

Steve: 00:25:51

Jean-Paul: It's magic.

Steve: 00:25:52

It's a Vander Woodson.

Leif: 00:25:54

Yeah. So at the gallery,

Leif: 00:25:57

Dan. So this is what.

Leif: 00:25:58

Jean-Paul: Yeah.

Leif: 00:25:58

Here we get the Dan. Vanessa. Here at the gallery,

Leif: 00:26:01

Dan is still weighing his decision not to title on

Leif: 00:26:03

Jenny. Vanessa is advising Dan to give

Leif: 00:26:06

Jenny some more time. They also discuss the Nate

Leif: 00:26:09

situation. Vanessa still clearly has feelings

Leif: 00:26:12

for Nate.

Steve: 00:26:13

Yeah. Fuck you, Vanessa.

Steve: 00:26:18

just every fucking time. Why do you

Steve: 00:26:21

just have to be such a downer?

Leif: 00:26:24

Yeah. Yeah. Giving Dan. Why did she

Leif: 00:26:26

spill the tea to dad about me? Yeah, that was the thing

Leif: 00:26:29

that got a dad the most upset.

Steve: 00:26:32

Yeah. Yeah. And, like, she violated

Steve: 00:26:34

Nate's trust by telling Dan,

Steve: 00:26:37

which. And then. Yeah, like, how would you do

Steve: 00:26:40

that?

Leif: 00:26:40

Like, Chuck and Emma meet in the great room

Leif: 00:26:43

of the Vanderbass penthouse. Chuck blows

Leif: 00:26:46

up Serena and Playa's ruse and picks up

Leif: 00:26:49

Emma.

Steve: 00:26:50

You, ah, just hooked yourself a bat. Oh, yeah.

Leif: 00:26:55

Did you think he was gonna go for it here?

Leif: 00:26:58

Jean-Paul: I.

Steve: 00:26:59

God, I was like, no, I I.

Leif: 00:27:02

Mean, first season Chuck, I think, would have.

Steve: 00:27:04

I think episode one. Chuck would have for

Steve: 00:27:07

sure. I think part. See,

Steve: 00:27:10

I think season one, before

Steve: 00:27:14

Victor Victrola. Yes,

Steve: 00:27:17

I think after Victor. Victor.

Steve: 00:27:20

No, because. Because of Blaire,

Steve: 00:27:23

but also maybe episode season two. Episode

Steve: 00:27:26

two, Chuck.

Leif: 00:27:27

Yeah, there's a spring episode where he's, you

Leif: 00:27:30

know, trying to hook up with multiple prostitutes and failing at it.

Steve: 00:27:33

Yeah, yeah, but.

Steve: 00:27:34

Jean-Paul: But see, that's where I'm gonna have to disagree with

Steve: 00:27:37

you. Only because the.

Steve: 00:27:40

The type of person that, you know, he is,

Steve: 00:27:43

he's a very conniving and, what's

Steve: 00:27:46

today? Tactful person in his own mind.

Steve: 00:27:49

So he knows that a young girl

Steve: 00:27:52

who is, let's let's say she's twelve or

Steve: 00:27:55

13 and he is

Steve: 00:27:58

17, he knows that

Steve: 00:28:00

that's not going to get him

Steve: 00:28:03

anywhere.

Leif: 00:28:04

Yeah, but, yeah, that with, pilot

Leif: 00:28:07

episode where he is 16 and Jenny is 13.

Leif: 00:28:10

One year difference.

Leif: 00:28:12

Jean-Paul: But but again, I'm I don't

Leif: 00:28:15

know. It still.

Leif: 00:28:18

I guess it depends on how old this girl actually is.

Leif: 00:28:21

Jean-Paul: Yeah.

Leif: 00:28:22

I think she could pass as 13.

Leif: 00:28:24

Jean-Paul: She get passes.

Leif: 00:28:25

13 is a weird thing to say.

Leif: 00:28:26

Jean-Paul: Yeah, 13. But I

Leif: 00:28:29

in my head, again, I still feel like this girl's like,

Leif: 00:28:32

well, you know.

Steve: 00:28:34

Yeah. Which she could.

Leif: 00:28:35

She can. She could ban. She could be anywhere from, like, 1211.

Steve: 00:28:38

I say. I'd say, yeah. I'd say twelve to

Steve: 00:28:41

14. Yeah.

Steve: 00:28:42

Jean-Paul: So. So even even you know what

Steve: 00:28:45

ensues 14 because.

Steve: 00:28:46

Yeah. Yeah.

Steve: 00:28:47

Jean-Paul: What ensues? What did you know? She she

Steve: 00:28:50

tries to jump him, and he just goes, no, I'm not

Steve: 00:28:53

gonna. So I'm like, okay.

Steve: 00:28:56

And, it goes. It goes like I said, it goes back to his. This character

Steve: 00:28:59

of, like, you hate him and you love them and you hate him and

Steve: 00:29:02

you love them and. Yeah, like,

Steve: 00:29:05

he.

Steve: 00:29:05

And you hate. You hate to love.

Steve: 00:29:07

Jean-Paul: Hate to love him. Exactly.

Leif: 00:29:11

Serena receives another licorice ring from

Leif: 00:29:13

Aaron and is immediately interrupted by

Leif: 00:29:16

Blair, who has discovered Emma is missing

Leif: 00:29:19

an old, stale piece of licorice.

Steve: 00:29:21

Yeah. Yeah, that's not.

Leif: 00:29:23

That's that weird that he kept the piece of licorice for, was eight

Leif: 00:29:26

years.

Steve: 00:29:26

Yeah, nine years. Nine years. She says, let's wait another

Steve: 00:29:29

nine years is what she says when she's walking away.

Steve: 00:29:32

Jean-Paul: Kind of creepy. Or or that this guy's mo and that's what he

Steve: 00:29:35

did with all the. Yeah, he made a licorice

Steve: 00:29:38

rings.

Steve: 00:29:38

Yeah, he has, he has a. He has, like, a

Steve: 00:29:42

trophy case of licorice rings, each

Steve: 00:29:45

with the name of the of

Steve: 00:29:48

the little girl he married at camp.

Leif: 00:29:50

Yes. When he was a camp counselor.

Steve: 00:29:53

He started when he was six years old and then just

Steve: 00:29:56

kept going every year until he

Steve: 00:29:59

became a counselor. Oh,

Steve: 00:30:01

disgusting. And that's who all these girls are.

Steve: 00:30:04

Jean-Paul: Yeah.

Steve: 00:30:04

fan. That's my new fan theory.

Steve: 00:30:06

Jean-Paul: I mean, I'm going to be on board with that

Steve: 00:30:09

because he just is a creep.

Steve: 00:30:11

He, only has come across as creepy to me so

Steve: 00:30:14

far.

Leif: 00:30:15

Chuck is riding in his limo with Emma, who

Leif: 00:30:18

is trying to throw herself at him.

Leif: 00:30:22

Spotted bass taking the bait. Jail

Leif: 00:30:25

bait, that is. Yeah.

Leif: 00:30:28

Yeah, Chuck is, sitting there in the limba, you know?

Steve: 00:30:31

Yeah.

Steve: 00:30:32

Jean-Paul: We learn.

Leif: 00:30:32

Later, though, he holds the limo sacred. Jenny,

Leif: 00:30:35

while loading a van to go to the fashion show, is

Leif: 00:30:38

trying to get Nate to admit his feelings. Nate can't

Leif: 00:30:41

seem to verbalize, so just offers to drive.

Leif: 00:30:44

Rufus, Vanessa, and Dan walk up just in time to see

Leif: 00:30:47

the van pull away.

Steve: 00:30:49

So. So this is why I felt so

Steve: 00:30:51

earlier on, Rufus walked in

Steve: 00:30:54

when Dan said, I'm just worried she's making a huge

Steve: 00:30:57

mistake. And Rufus was right there and goes,

Steve: 00:31:00

who? So the next time we see them,

Steve: 00:31:03

it's Dan, Rufus, and Vanessa

Steve: 00:31:06

all walking up together to where Jenny

Steve: 00:31:08

was. I assumed then Dan is a

Steve: 00:31:11

snitch, that Dan was, like, the way they.

Leif: 00:31:13

Were walking, though, they're just so casually walking.

Leif: 00:31:16

Jean-Paul: Yeah, I would agree. They were very

Leif: 00:31:19

much casually walking until

Leif: 00:31:21

they saw the van pulling away. But

Leif: 00:31:25

before that, there was the kiss, right?

Leif: 00:31:27

Yeah, if I remember.

Steve: 00:31:28

No, the kiss has not happened.

Steve: 00:31:30

Jean-Paul: Oh, I'm sorry. You're like, the kiss has not happened, but there's

Steve: 00:31:33

that weird closeness, and then there

Steve: 00:31:36

is then Nate.

Leif: 00:31:37

Well, also, they're. They're seeing their. The, 15 year

Leif: 00:31:40

old daughter getting into a strange van.

Leif: 00:31:42

Jean-Paul: Right, right.

Leif: 00:31:43

Well, which is always concerning my.

Steve: 00:31:45

My thought on this van.

Steve: 00:31:47

Jean-Paul: Right? If I.

Steve: 00:31:47

Right, yeah. Nate's driving. Yeah.

Steve: 00:31:49

Jean-Paul: So there is one of my,

Steve: 00:31:51

And kind of where I lead to this is that even if

Steve: 00:31:53

Dan, when Rufus came in, didn't say,

Steve: 00:31:57

hey, Jenny's doing this

Steve: 00:31:59

thing, he did know

Steve: 00:32:02

where Jenny was parked and did

Steve: 00:32:05

at least lead Rufus right to it.

Steve: 00:32:08

Like, I feel like Dan

Steve: 00:32:11

led Rufus to her. Whether he came

Steve: 00:32:14

out and said, jenny's making a huge mistake,

Steve: 00:32:17

that. That is just my gut feeling on this, is

Steve: 00:32:19

that Dan couldn't keep his mouth

Steve: 00:32:22

shut.

Leif: 00:32:23

Or at least it seemed like they should have been

Leif: 00:32:25

gone by then.

Steve: 00:32:27

Well, they were loading up. I mean.

Leif: 00:32:29

Well, yeah, they were. They were loading up when he left, went

Leif: 00:32:32

to the gallery, had a whole conversation with Vanessa about

Leif: 00:32:35

it. Then you're saying told

Leif: 00:32:37

Rufus and then walked all the way

Leif: 00:32:40

back.

Steve: 00:32:40

But, I mean, they were right. I. Hey, I, I'm just

Steve: 00:32:43

saying that was the impression I got, that Dan took.

Leif: 00:32:46

Fair enough.

Steve: 00:32:47

Because they agree. Yeah. Well, my last

Steve: 00:32:50

closing point to that is they did close up the gallery

Steve: 00:32:52

to go back to the loft.

Leif: 00:32:54

So it was getting towards evening at that point.

Steve: 00:32:56

Yeah. Yeah. They've been opened in the

Steve: 00:32:59

evening.

Leif: 00:33:03

They had that big opening. Maybe they asked some employees.

Steve: 00:33:05

Now, do you think it's beyond Dan to

Steve: 00:33:08

snitch here?

Leif: 00:33:09

No, but I just don't.

Steve: 00:33:10

No further questions. Your honor.

Leif: 00:33:13

Okay, that's not. That's not how it works. Gotta be

Leif: 00:33:16

reasonable doubt. There's plenty of reasonable doubt there.

Steve: 00:33:18

I've got. I've got zero down.

Leif: 00:33:22

we go into act two. Blair confronts

Leif: 00:33:25

Chuck about Emma, who denies having done anything with

Leif: 00:33:28

her because Serena is best friends with every

Leif: 00:33:31

bartender in town. She gets a text alert telling

Leif: 00:33:33

her that E. Boardman has used

Leif: 00:33:36

her credit card. At one oak, Blair ropes

Leif: 00:33:39

both Serena and chuck into helping her track down the

Leif: 00:33:42

troublemaker.

Steve: 00:33:43

The back of the limo is sacred.

Steve: 00:33:48

Jean-Paul: But I.

Steve: 00:33:49

That girl assaulted me.

Steve: 00:33:52

Jean-Paul: That. Yeah, that girl assaulted me. That.

Steve: 00:33:55

So again, yeah, Chuck there

Steve: 00:33:58

is trying to be a stand up gentleman.

Leif: 00:34:01

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Steve: 00:34:03

Chuck 2.0.

Leif: 00:34:04

But again, I can't fault him in this episode at all.

Leif: 00:34:07

Jean-Paul: no, and when I say stand up, gentlemen, I mean

Leif: 00:34:10

covering his own ass because he doesn't want to go to jail for

Leif: 00:34:13

statutory rate.

Steve: 00:34:14

Yeah. Whatever his reason, he does the right

Steve: 00:34:17

thing.

Steve: 00:34:17

Jean-Paul: Yeah, he does the right thing in the best

Steve: 00:34:20

way that Chuck does his right thing to benefit

Steve: 00:34:23

Chuck.

Steve: 00:34:24

Yeah.

Leif: 00:34:26

Well, I believe in this moment that he believes they. The

Leif: 00:34:28

dilemma is sacred.

Steve: 00:34:30

Yeah, I do think.

Leif: 00:34:31

And at this very moment, I don't know if that's going to stay that way,

Leif: 00:34:34

but at this moment, he believes that.

Leif: 00:34:36

Jean-Paul: All right.

Steve: 00:34:36

Yeah.

Steve: 00:34:37

Jean-Paul: I'll give you that. I'll give you that.

Steve: 00:34:40

So that goes back to his own beliefs and his own stand

Steve: 00:34:43

up thing.

Steve: 00:34:43

Yeah.

Leif: 00:34:44

Oh, yeah. Outside

Leif: 00:34:47

the palace hotel. What I'm saying is, if it

Leif: 00:34:49

wasn't the limo, he might have gone for it.

Leif: 00:34:55

Jean-Paul: I mean, again, Chuck is. Chuck does whatever

Leif: 00:34:58

Chuck wants to do.

Leif: 00:35:02

Except, outside the young girl.

Leif: 00:35:04

Yeah. Outside the palace,

Leif: 00:35:07

Jenny tells Nate how they are having a guerrilla fashion

Leif: 00:35:10

show here because they need wealthy financial

Leif: 00:35:12

backers. Jenny persuades Nate to stay

Leif: 00:35:15

and help with the show.

Steve: 00:35:17

I love that Jenny has really done the

Steve: 00:35:20

work. Like, they really, really

Steve: 00:35:22

establish over and over that Jenny

Steve: 00:35:25

has done the work to earn

Steve: 00:35:28

what she's doing. Yeah. And over

Steve: 00:35:31

and over that has. She has proven that,

Steve: 00:35:34

which is one of the things that makes her. What makes me

Steve: 00:35:37

like that character so.

Steve: 00:35:38

Jean-Paul: Much now I also feel like

Steve: 00:35:41

I agree with you saying that she has done the work.

Steve: 00:35:44

You also have her friend. I forget her friend's name

Steve: 00:35:47

right now.

Steve: 00:35:48

Agnes.

Steve: 00:35:48

Jean-Paul: Agneshe just really being

Steve: 00:35:51

that little devil, on the side.

Leif: 00:35:54

Yeah.

Leif: 00:35:55

Jean-Paul: Going. Yeah, you can do this. Yeah, let's do

Leif: 00:35:58

this. You know, I'm going to make sure that this

Leif: 00:36:01

happens for us. You know,

Leif: 00:36:03

secretly, I'm interested to see.

Leif: 00:36:05

If, we find out more of her reasons.

Leif: 00:36:07

Jean-Paul: Yeah.

Leif: 00:36:07

In the coming episodes, can I also.

Steve: 00:36:09

Say that I can't say her name without wanting to say

Steve: 00:36:12

Agnes, agatha Germaine and Jack.

Steve: 00:36:18

Fair enough. Friends. And that's a fact. Like

Steve: 00:36:21

Agatha. Agnes, Agatha Germaine and

Steve: 00:36:23

Jack.

Steve: 00:36:24

Jean-Paul: Very nice.

Steve: 00:36:27

You.

Steve: 00:36:28

You got what I need?

Steve: 00:36:32

You say he's just a friend?

Leif: 00:36:35

You say he's just a friend?

Leif: 00:36:37

Jean-Paul: Oh, baby.

Steve: 00:36:39

I actually saw him DJ, Andre,

Steve: 00:36:41

Andre's band did this, like, his tribute

Steve: 00:36:44

banded this nineties eighties thing at the

Steve: 00:36:47

TLA. And in between the

Steve: 00:36:50

sets, Biz Marquis came out and

Steve: 00:36:52

dj'd, and he just. He

Steve: 00:36:55

just really, like, it was so much

Steve: 00:36:58

fun. Played, like, the great mix of, like,

Steve: 00:37:01

perfect. Like, perfect, to the

Steve: 00:37:04

crowd and played the first half of that. He's like, I'm gonna

Steve: 00:37:07

remind you all why you know me. Played the first half of the song and then

Steve: 00:37:10

stopped and goes, we'll do the rest later.

Steve: 00:37:13

Jean-Paul: In 98, I saw him open up for the Beastie

Steve: 00:37:16

boys.

Leif: 00:37:17

Oh, that's.

Leif: 00:37:18

Jean-Paul: And I saw live the

Leif: 00:37:21

Bendy and the Jets Beastie boys. That is on one of

Leif: 00:37:24

the b sides of the Beastie Boys album.

Steve: 00:37:27

Oh, that's awesome.

Steve: 00:37:27

Jean-Paul: So it's Biz Markie and the beastie boy. So,

Steve: 00:37:30

you know, rest in Penny's bizarre Marky.

Steve: 00:37:34

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Leif: 00:37:36

Or without. To the homies.

Steve: 00:37:36

Yeah, yeah. This is beat of the day from yo gabba

Steve: 00:37:39

gabba. Like, my kids were into that shit. He was

Steve: 00:37:42

generational.

Leif: 00:37:43

Blair and Serena track down Emma, who is

Leif: 00:37:46

flirting with a guy in a booth. Blair and Serena,

Leif: 00:37:49

momentarily distracted. Emma sneaks out with her

Leif: 00:37:52

new boy toy.

Steve: 00:37:53

Yeah, I love how she

Steve: 00:37:56

calls. She refers to Aaron as her

Steve: 00:37:59

albatross. Like, we'll worry about your

Steve: 00:38:01

albatross after I find mine.

Leif: 00:38:05

Yeah, but Blair's speaking truth. This episode about

Leif: 00:38:08

Aaron.

Steve: 00:38:08

At least Blair sees right through this shit

Steve: 00:38:11

and wants nothing to do with this Aaron

Steve: 00:38:13

guy. Although this is. I

Steve: 00:38:16

believe there's also a pattern

Steve: 00:38:19

developing of when

Steve: 00:38:22

Serena likes someone,

Steve: 00:38:25

Blair doesn't that kind of.

Steve: 00:38:27

And, I mean, I know I have been like that as

Steve: 00:38:30

a friend, too, that, like, I just. Whoever my one

Steve: 00:38:33

friend brought home, I didn't like, you know?

Leif: 00:38:37

So I jump. I have a theory

Leif: 00:38:40

that throughout the show, there's, like, a hidden subtext of

Leif: 00:38:43

Blair being in love with Serena, which you've also

Leif: 00:38:46

mentioned.

Leif: 00:38:46

Jean-Paul: I mean, I would not, take that away. No,

Leif: 00:38:49

I agree with you. Yeah.

Steve: 00:38:51

Yeah.

Steve: 00:38:51

Jean-Paul: I mean, yeah, there's. There's. There's. There's that weird

Steve: 00:38:54

jealousy, you know?

Leif: 00:38:56

Yeah, but it's also like they never.

Leif: 00:38:59

They never really go there. But it's like, it's just. It's just under

Leif: 00:39:02

the surface.

Leif: 00:39:03

Jean-Paul: Yeah, but, I mean, there's there's that, and there's also,

Leif: 00:39:05

like, they kind of, like, have that

Leif: 00:39:08

impeding thing where they, like, look up to each other in a

Leif: 00:39:11

weird way, and then they, like, yeah. and get

Leif: 00:39:14

upset if the other one, like, does something extremely,

Leif: 00:39:17

extremely stupid.

Leif: 00:39:18

So obviously, they're m extremely coded.

Steve: 00:39:20

Yeah.

Steve: 00:39:20

Jean-Paul: So obviously. Yeah. When it comes to, like, guys, they're going to be

Steve: 00:39:23

like, yeah, he sees that. Good for you.

Steve: 00:39:26

Yeah.

Steve: 00:39:26

Jean-Paul: And, no, I'm not going to tell you.

Steve: 00:39:30

Yeah. Yeah. And there's a thought of, does she

Steve: 00:39:33

want to be with Serena, or does she want to

Steve: 00:39:36

be Serena?

Steve: 00:39:37

Jean-Paul: That's a good point.

Steve: 00:39:39

A lot of that jealousy comes up a lot,

Steve: 00:39:41

too. So when Serena's with someone that she doesn't like,

Steve: 00:39:44

well, I wouldn't like that person.

Steve: 00:39:46

Jean-Paul: Right.

Steve: 00:39:46

You know what?

Leif: 00:39:49

I don't think she wants to be Serena. She wants the attention, but

Leif: 00:39:52

she wants to be her and get the attention.

Steve: 00:39:54

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Leif: 00:39:55

Serena gets,

Steve: 00:39:55

Well, I think she wants the attention, and she

Steve: 00:39:58

wants the

Steve: 00:40:00

ease of Serena, that

Steve: 00:40:03

Serena. Things just come

Steve: 00:40:05

naturally and easy in Blair's mind

Steve: 00:40:08

that she wants not to have to work for

Steve: 00:40:11

every little bit of a brute.

Steve: 00:40:12

Jean-Paul: The golden child.

Steve: 00:40:14

Yeah.

Leif: 00:40:16

Inside the gala, Jenny realizes Bart

Leif: 00:40:19

and Lily are the ones getting honored and starts to

Leif: 00:40:22

get a bit nervous. However, Jenny,

Leif: 00:40:25

always the quick thinker, checks in under

Leif: 00:40:27

Eric's name.

Steve: 00:40:29

So, so smooth.

Steve: 00:40:32

Sometimes they leave off the a.

Leif: 00:40:35

So smooth m. And where is Eric, though? Why isn't

Leif: 00:40:38

he?

Steve: 00:40:38

Yeah.

Leif: 00:40:41

They couldn't afford him this episode.

Steve: 00:40:43

Yeah.

Leif: 00:40:43

A very guilty Jenny bumps into Lily, but

Leif: 00:40:46

luckily, Nate steps in to cover her. Nate

Leif: 00:40:49

is definitely making a habit of saving Jenny.

Leif: 00:40:52

Jenny is melting down, and Nate pulls her in for

Leif: 00:40:55

a big old smooch. But if Jenny and Nate

Leif: 00:40:58

were trying to hide their relationship, it looks like the

Leif: 00:41:01

cat is about to burst out of the bag,

Leif: 00:41:04

howling and screaming. The mini Serena from

Leif: 00:41:06

the Dark Knight episode snaps a photo of the

Leif: 00:41:09

kiss.

Steve: 00:41:10

Yep. You're way too public of

Steve: 00:41:13

a person to be kissing in public. The two of you.

Leif: 00:41:16

Did everyone, recognize the little girl?

Leif: 00:41:18

Jean-Paul: I didn't, so I'm glad you said that. I

Leif: 00:41:21

did not.

Leif: 00:41:22

Yeah. So she's a recurring, like, her and the

Leif: 00:41:25

mini Blair come back a few times throughout the series?

Leif: 00:41:27

Jean-Paul: Yeah, no, I remember them, but I didn't. I didn't

Leif: 00:41:30

have, like, put it together in this episode.

Steve: 00:41:33

Yeah.

Leif: 00:41:33

Back at the bar, Blair continues

Leif: 00:41:36

to whine at Serena. But thanks to Chuck's

Leif: 00:41:39

investigation, Blair gets a picture of Emma's

Leif: 00:41:42

mummy cheating on.

Steve: 00:41:43

Daddy, that seems like a good

Steve: 00:41:46

plan b.

Leif: 00:41:49

Sure. Get it to get it to yell by

Leif: 00:41:51

blackmailing.

Steve: 00:41:52

I mean, this is Blair. Yeah, it's Blair.

Leif: 00:41:55

It is definitely Blair.

Steve: 00:41:57

That is classic Blair.

Leif: 00:41:59

But. Well, really, would it really have

Leif: 00:42:02

worked.

Steve: 00:42:02

In gossip girl terms?

Steve: 00:42:05

Jean-Paul: Well, I think it depends really

Steve: 00:42:07

how connected this. This woman really

Steve: 00:42:10

is because. Well, I think they would.

Leif: 00:42:13

I mean, she basically got in based on

Leif: 00:42:16

the daughter's recommendations. I guess the

Leif: 00:42:19

mom must be.

Leif: 00:42:19

Jean-Paul: I mean, yeah, that, I guess. Yeah, probably.

Leif: 00:42:22

Jenny and Agnes are doing some last minute prep. It

Leif: 00:42:25

looks like Agnes has a minion working the av

Leif: 00:42:28

for the gala.

Leif: 00:42:29

Jean-Paul: Now. Now.

Leif: 00:42:31

Do anything creepy with my fret.

Steve: 00:42:32

Yeah.

Steve: 00:42:32

Jean-Paul: Now, do you guys know the little weird trivia of that

Steve: 00:42:35

thing? Because I actually, I found this

Steve: 00:42:38

out and I was like that, it kind of makes

Steve: 00:42:41

sense. Notice that kid does not say a

Steve: 00:42:44

single line. He just does weird

Steve: 00:42:46

motions with his face. yeah, that was a

Steve: 00:42:49

contest winner to get on the show.

Leif: 00:42:52

Really?

Leif: 00:42:53

Jean-Paul: Wow.

Leif: 00:42:53

I did not know that.

Leif: 00:42:54

Jean-Paul: Yeah, cuz, cuz I was. Because

Leif: 00:42:57

when I watch tv or watch movies, I

Leif: 00:43:00

don't know, sometimes that my weird thing in my mind, I'm

Leif: 00:43:03

like, why is that person just

Leif: 00:43:05

there? You know?

Leif: 00:43:08

So I went and I recently I

Leif: 00:43:11

found that apparently they had a contest to be on the show.

Leif: 00:43:16

It was contest with a lot of those at Gossip Girl, actually,

Leif: 00:43:19

a lot of like, just people just there.

Leif: 00:43:20

Jean-Paul: Yeah, so, yeah, so that was a contest whenever

Leif: 00:43:23

they want to be a role on

Leif: 00:43:26

Gotham girl.

Leif: 00:43:27

And I'm like, I can't.

Leif: 00:43:28

Jean-Paul: That totally makes sense. It tracks because

Leif: 00:43:31

just no line, just

Leif: 00:43:34

the facial, you know,

Leif: 00:43:37

stand here. You know, it's kind of like I just

Leif: 00:43:40

recently found out I. In the movie masters of the v

Leif: 00:43:43

universe from 1987, the Dolph Lundrin one.

Steve: 00:43:46

I prefer to think of it as the Frank Langello one.

Steve: 00:43:48

Jean-Paul: There you go. There you go. Well, okay.

Steve: 00:43:51

Fred Van Dillo, towards the

Steve: 00:43:54

end, he grabs the staff from that little

Steve: 00:43:56

child. yeah, yeah, that was a contest

Steve: 00:43:59

winner.

Steve: 00:44:02

I only felt.

Steve: 00:44:03

I remember that contest. Yeah, I remember that

Steve: 00:44:05

contest. I entered that contest. Like fucking

Steve: 00:44:08

everybody entered that contest of a certain age.

Steve: 00:44:11

Jean-Paul: Everybody entered that contest. Yeah.

Steve: 00:44:13

Yeah. If I remember correctly, it was a clip off

Steve: 00:44:15

the proof of purchase from the back of your he man

Steve: 00:44:18

guy and send it in and you could enter the

Steve: 00:44:21

contest.

Steve: 00:44:22

Jean-Paul: Exactly.

Steve: 00:44:22

Yes. I remember hating that kid because he won.

Steve: 00:44:25

Yeah, yeah, I didn't.

Steve: 00:44:26

Jean-Paul: I didn't know until recently that, because I

Steve: 00:44:29

just purchased the. Listened to the commentary with

Steve: 00:44:32

director and. And people said, yeah,

Steve: 00:44:35

people always wondered why this kid just, you know, it was so

Steve: 00:44:37

random and weird. And he's like, because they made me put

Steve: 00:44:40

this kid in here because he was a contest winner.

Leif: 00:44:43

Wow.

Leif: 00:44:44

Jean-Paul: So, so, again, that's where my man kind of was

Leif: 00:44:47

because I heard that and I thought, this kid in this

Leif: 00:44:50

scene is just like, I'm just going to put the usb

Leif: 00:44:53

in this container and weird things

Leif: 00:44:56

that I'm like, I don't know, let me look it up. And I

Leif: 00:44:58

fear he won. He won. He won the

Leif: 00:45:01

role.

Steve: 00:45:02

Walk on roller Johnson. Another side note, Frank

Steve: 00:45:05

Lingela is one of my fraternity brothers. He is a

Steve: 00:45:07

brother, of Alpha Chi wro.

Steve: 00:45:09

Jean-Paul: Oh, wow.

Steve: 00:45:10

yeah, yeah. When I was pledging, he was like, listed in

Steve: 00:45:12

our book as like one of our influential brothers. Because

Steve: 00:45:15

he, you know, because by then this was well after masters of

Steve: 00:45:18

the universe and some other. But. And yeah,

Steve: 00:45:21

Alpha Chi row brother.

Steve: 00:45:22

Jean-Paul: Oh, wow. So this would have been like when, you know, he was probably

Steve: 00:45:25

in that, that movie with Whoopi. Gulp.

Leif: 00:45:31

At the loft. Rufus, Vanessa and Dan are still trying to

Leif: 00:45:34

track down Jenny. When Dan sees the gossip girl blast,

Leif: 00:45:37

allowing Nate and Jenny, or, showing Nate and Jenny kissing at

Leif: 00:45:40

the palace, he hides the blast from the others.

Steve: 00:45:44

Yeah. And goes into

Steve: 00:45:47

big brother mode. He's such an

Steve: 00:45:49

asshole.

Steve: 00:45:50

Jean-Paul: So. So, yeah, was he doing this big brother mode or

Steve: 00:45:53

was he also like, you know, I guess big brother

Steve: 00:45:56

mode protecting my sister? or big brother mode,

Steve: 00:45:59

I'm going to kill

Steve: 00:46:01

Nate for making my

Steve: 00:46:04

sister.

Steve: 00:46:05

And there is this big part of me that, like, when I was

Steve: 00:46:08

in college, my best friend made out with my

Steve: 00:46:11

little sister. I wanted to strangle the life out of it.

Steve: 00:46:13

Jean-Paul: Well, there you go. For sure.

Steve: 00:46:16

I didn't. He's still my best friend.

Steve: 00:46:17

Jean-Paul: Okay.

Steve: 00:46:18

But I wanted to strangle

Steve: 00:46:21

the life out of him back then. So, like, I kind of

Steve: 00:46:23

get Dan here. Like, I feel like I would have been like that

Steve: 00:46:26

too. But also, you're an asshole, Dan. Because I was

Steve: 00:46:29

also an asshole too, to be fair.

Leif: 00:46:31

I also noticed something in the scene. Dan

Leif: 00:46:34

checking, gossip girl alerts and getting gossip girl alerts on

Leif: 00:46:37

his computer. Now. He's fully kind of in

Leif: 00:46:40

the game now.

Steve: 00:46:41

Oh, that's true.

Steve: 00:46:43

Jean-Paul: That's a good point.

Steve: 00:46:44

You went to Gossip Girl. Or did he

Steve: 00:46:46

go to Gossip Girl to find her or. It was, it was an email

Steve: 00:46:49

blast.

Steve: 00:46:50

Jean-Paul: If I remember right.

Leif: 00:46:51

Yeah, it was.

Leif: 00:46:52

Jean-Paul: So, so, so clearly he's on the.

Leif: 00:46:54

He's now.

Leif: 00:46:55

Jean-Paul: He's subscribed. Yeah, he's now. Like, I'm

Leif: 00:46:58

in. I want to know this whole gossip world

Leif: 00:47:01

or whatever.

Steve: 00:47:03

hm.

Steve: 00:47:03

Jean-Paul: So, yeah.

Leif: 00:47:06

We hear lonely boys BFF still

Leif: 00:47:08

carries a torch for Nate. If she finds out

Leif: 00:47:11

about little sister wonder who'll get

Leif: 00:47:14

burned. We move

Leif: 00:47:17

into act three. Rvd,

Leif: 00:47:20

not Rob van Dam, but Rufus. Dan and Vanessa are, now in

Leif: 00:47:23

a cab heading towards the palace.

Leif: 00:47:25

Jean-Paul: Okay, so that's a one. I've got to say

Leif: 00:47:28

something. That whole thing in the cab, and

Leif: 00:47:31

Rufus is like, you know, banging and going

Leif: 00:47:34

absolutely crazy and giving the

Leif: 00:47:36

$1 bill. It's the worst

Leif: 00:47:39

acting.

Steve: 00:47:41

Yeah.

Steve: 00:47:42

Jean-Paul: Rufus really bad. Has ever done,

Steve: 00:47:45

I think, in the span of this show.

Steve: 00:47:47

This is honestly maybe Rufus's

Steve: 00:47:50

worst episode, and he's had another bad

Steve: 00:47:52

episode.

Leif: 00:47:53

Yeah, he was really bad.

Steve: 00:47:55

He was really bad in this one.

Leif: 00:47:56

But, yeah, the acting was very bad.

Steve: 00:47:58

It was terrible. Yeah.

Steve: 00:48:00

Jean-Paul: And the thing is, I, enjoy his character, but in

Steve: 00:48:03

this episode, I was just like,

Steve: 00:48:06

I feel the only reason they really

Steve: 00:48:09

put him in was here, have this

Steve: 00:48:12

be a dad. But he did such

Steve: 00:48:14

a job being a dad in this

Steve: 00:48:17

episode that it's just like, the episode

Steve: 00:48:20

could have actually been okay with him not even in

Steve: 00:48:23

it.

Steve: 00:48:24

Yeah.

Leif: 00:48:24

You know, what I've always said is, I enjoy Rufus when he's

Leif: 00:48:27

interacting with Dan and when he's interacting with Lily.

Steve: 00:48:30

Yeah.

Leif: 00:48:30

But when he's interacting with Jenny and parenting Jenny, he

Leif: 00:48:33

is. He's horrible.

Leif: 00:48:34

Jean-Paul: Yeah.

Steve: 00:48:35

Worst.

Leif: 00:48:35

He's so different with his parenting towards Jenny than when he

Leif: 00:48:38

is with Dan.

Steve: 00:48:39

Yeah. Yeah. Completely different and. And

Steve: 00:48:42

really shitty to Jenny all the time.

Leif: 00:48:44

RVD arrives at the palace and are let into the

Leif: 00:48:46

event by Lily, who seems to be just chilling by

Leif: 00:48:49

the entrance, waiting to bump into people. Bart

Leif: 00:48:52

seems very annoyed when he sees Rufus

Leif: 00:48:55

at the event.

Leif: 00:48:58

Jean-Paul: The handshake alone. The handshake alone.

Steve: 00:49:01

That was so. Yeah, that awkward.

Leif: 00:49:03

Well, I didn't invite him. Yeah, but,

Leif: 00:49:06

like, which he didn't, and.

Steve: 00:49:08

Rufus had every right to because this dude fucking

Steve: 00:49:11

shows up all the time.

Steve: 00:49:13

Jean-Paul: Like.

Steve: 00:49:13

Like, this dude always shows up. And I thought we were

Steve: 00:49:16

not doing this anymore, Lily. Like, yeah.

Steve: 00:49:19

Like, but also. But here's the thing where, like,

Steve: 00:49:22

this is the side of Bart that I do like

Steve: 00:49:25

that Bart is annoyed, but Bart isn't

Steve: 00:49:28

being an asshole about it, and he's not flipping out.

Leif: 00:49:30

I mean, he's all about decorum.

Steve: 00:49:32

yeah, he just keeps it, and he just, you know,

Steve: 00:49:35

he's just setting it aside and

Steve: 00:49:37

compartmentalizing. And I like that about Bart. I like

Steve: 00:49:40

that he's not an explosive

Steve: 00:49:43

control. Yeah. Bart knows how much power he

Steve: 00:49:46

has.

Leif: 00:49:47

He is Lex Luthor.

Steve: 00:49:48

Yeah, well, he knows that if he wanted to, he could have

Steve: 00:49:51

that guy.

Steve: 00:49:51

Jean-Paul: Fucking well like father, like son in this episode then,

Steve: 00:49:54

if you really think.

Steve: 00:49:55

Yeah. Yeah, very much.

Steve: 00:49:57

Jean-Paul: Because, the way Chuck handled himself in this episode

Steve: 00:50:00

is the same way.

Leif: 00:50:01

And Chuck definitely learned at the foot of his father.

Steve: 00:50:04

Yeah.

Steve: 00:50:04

Jean-Paul: So, yeah, definitely like father likes.

Steve: 00:50:07

But again, that weird handshake

Steve: 00:50:10

that they have, that interaction is just,

Steve: 00:50:13

like, really weird and charming to

Steve: 00:50:15

me. It's almost like,

Steve: 00:50:18

they give themselves, like, right here, and I'm like,

Steve: 00:50:21

is that not how you shake me?

Steve: 00:50:24

Yeah, I'm gonna grab you off.

Steve: 00:50:27

Yeah, they. It was so awkward.

Steve: 00:50:30

I loved it.

Leif: 00:50:31

Well, the act, the actor who plays part actually has kind of long

Leif: 00:50:34

arms.

Leif: 00:50:35

Jean-Paul: Okay.

Steve: 00:50:35

Yeah.

Steve: 00:50:36

Jean-Paul: I mean, I know him from a bunch of b boo, so.

Leif: 00:50:39

Yeah, he's been. Yeah, like, I know he loves the

Leif: 00:50:41

sopranos for an episode.

Leif: 00:50:43

Jean-Paul: Yeah.

Leif: 00:50:43

Pretty funny role. Tony thought he was gay.

Leif: 00:50:46

Jean-Paul: That's right. That's right.

Leif: 00:50:49

Dorota was on a few episodes of Sopranos in the last

Leif: 00:50:52

season. Oh. As a polish

Leif: 00:50:55

maid.

Steve: 00:50:56

That's funny.

Leif: 00:50:57

And she actually. She's actually talked about how, she gotta got

Leif: 00:51:00

typecasted, as a polish maid. And they

Leif: 00:51:02

got. Got the role as gossip girl. Like, they. They, like, saw

Leif: 00:51:05

her out for it.

Leif: 00:51:07

Jean-Paul: And if you also forget, he was,

Leif: 00:51:10

robocop in Robocop three.

Steve: 00:51:12

Yeah.

Leif: 00:51:12

Yeah.

Steve: 00:51:13

Oh, wow. Yeah.

Leif: 00:51:15

Unfortunately. Unfortunately, that movie exists.

Leif: 00:51:17

Jean-Paul: I'm gonna say. Unfortunately, Robocop three.

Leif: 00:51:19

Dad and Nate, say,

Leif: 00:51:24

still after Bob. Robocop three.

Leif: 00:51:26

Jean-Paul: I'm sorry. I didn't mean to sidetrack you.

Leif: 00:51:28

But every time I think of

Leif: 00:51:32

him, m because, again, he's a terrible actor in that

Leif: 00:51:34

movie, and robocop three is

Leif: 00:51:37

terrible.

Leif: 00:51:37

Blair is thanking God for blackmailing evidence, but

Leif: 00:51:40

Serena convinces Blair to save Emma first.

Leif: 00:51:43

Looks like Blair and Chuck are alone and free to team

Leif: 00:51:46

up.

Steve: 00:51:47

And Blair's, like, sitting there taking shots at serena,

Steve: 00:51:50

like. Like usual. Just. And

Steve: 00:51:53

Serena just, like, takes it.

Leif: 00:51:55

Yeah, it's like.

Steve: 00:51:55

Okay. All right.

Leif: 00:51:57

Yeah, she's used to it.

Steve: 00:51:59

Yeah.

Leif: 00:51:59

Dan sees Nate without saying a word, grabs Nate and shoves him up

Leif: 00:52:02

against the wall before demanding answers.

Leif: 00:52:05

Nate plays it totally cool and does his best to

Leif: 00:52:08

de escalate. Dan refrains from physical

Leif: 00:52:11

violence, but still judges. Judges Nate for

Leif: 00:52:14

the capturing thing and tells him to hit the road.

Leif: 00:52:17

Jack. Don't you come back.

Steve: 00:52:19

Yeah. Nate really tried to keep his

Steve: 00:52:22

cool too. Yeah, Nate really every step of the

Steve: 00:52:25

way. Nate had every right to fucking knock him out at one

Steve: 00:52:28

point, but Nate every step of the way was just like,

Steve: 00:52:30

okay, let's bring it down. Okay. The

Steve: 00:52:33

escalation fucking good guy, Nate all the

Steve: 00:52:36

time. And Robin was even like, my

Steve: 00:52:39

wife. Robin was even like, this is

Steve: 00:52:42

Robin's words. Where. This is Dan's ugliest moment. Well,

Steve: 00:52:44

so far, anyway. Thus

Steve: 00:52:47

far. Thus far, this is his

Steve: 00:52:50

ugliest moment.

Steve: 00:52:51

Jean-Paul: I've been my lips right now.

Steve: 00:52:53

Well, because he not only does

Steve: 00:52:56

he. Is he shitty to Nate, he also

Steve: 00:52:59

betrayed Vanessa's trust. Like,

Steve: 00:53:02

Vanessa trusted him with that

Steve: 00:53:05

information. So now Nate has

Steve: 00:53:08

every right to be mad at Vanessa too,

Steve: 00:53:11

for. For that. So, like, Dan fucked both

Steve: 00:53:14

of his friends in one breath.

Leif: 00:53:16

I really blame him for fucking Vanessa.

Steve: 00:53:17

I mean, Vanessa should never have told them in the first

Steve: 00:53:20

place.

Leif: 00:53:21

It's not. I mean, what, once Vanessa tells it and then the secrets,

Leif: 00:53:23

basically, yeah.

Leif: 00:53:24

Jean-Paul: God, I just want to defend Vanessa right now.

Leif: 00:53:27

Go for it. Go for it.

Steve: 00:53:29

Yes, please do.

Steve: 00:53:30

Jean-Paul: I mean, again, in this episode, she,

Steve: 00:53:33

like, this really has nothing to do in

Steve: 00:53:36

this episode, right.

Steve: 00:53:38

Which this show. Yeah. She tends to

Steve: 00:53:41

just not have a.

Steve: 00:53:42

Jean-Paul: Lot, and I know that. And again, I

Steve: 00:53:45

get what her character really is supposed to

Steve: 00:53:48

be, but I just think she's a very adorable

Steve: 00:53:51

character.

Leif: 00:53:52

That she, should be. She

Leif: 00:53:55

should be, but she has no reason to exist.

Leif: 00:53:57

Jean-Paul: She has no reason to exist. But they. They. I guess

Leif: 00:54:00

she, from the way I interpret her

Leif: 00:54:02

character so far to this

Leif: 00:54:05

point in this show, they want

Leif: 00:54:08

her to be the audience. They want you to feel,

Leif: 00:54:10

like, sympathy for somebody against

Leif: 00:54:13

the elite of all of these, like,

Leif: 00:54:16

rich, spoiled kids. She

Leif: 00:54:19

is your down to earth kid as well,

Leif: 00:54:22

because you think Dan was supposed to be that

Leif: 00:54:25

character, but he's not.

Steve: 00:54:27

Well, because he has to be sucked in.

Steve: 00:54:29

Jean-Paul: Yeah, exactly.

Leif: 00:54:30

I think that is what they intended in the first season.

Leif: 00:54:33

But again, like, she just didn't have a reason to be in this world

Leif: 00:54:36

other than she was tagging along with Dan.

Steve: 00:54:38

Right.

Leif: 00:54:38

So she's always. She's always opposing herself. But

Leif: 00:54:41

then we also talked about a few episodes where she kind of took a

Leif: 00:54:44

turn, where out of nowhere, she approached

Leif: 00:54:47

Blair and blackmailed her just to help her with her pride.

Leif: 00:54:49

Jean-Paul: Right. I get that.

Leif: 00:54:51

That was, like, a bit. That was a big change for her character.

Leif: 00:54:53

Jean-Paul: I think so. So basically, she's the scrappy do.

Leif: 00:54:56

Oh, yeah. Oh, I think, like, at this point, the writers realize

Leif: 00:54:59

that the fans hated her, so they're just gonna now lead.

Steve: 00:55:02

Into her and let me more open ass

Steve: 00:55:05

crappy do.

Leif: 00:55:08

Let's see if they. If the fans like her more. Yeah,

Leif: 00:55:11

I have my doubts. And Blair and Truck have

Leif: 00:55:14

tracked down Emma, and they are, convinced the ditch

Leif: 00:55:17

surge, when she gets the blast, Muffy's

Leif: 00:55:20

muff got stuffed and so

Leif: 00:55:22

fucking.

Steve: 00:55:23

Fucking disgusting in the first place

Steve: 00:55:26

because, like, to post that on the. On the

Steve: 00:55:29

Internet about a 1312

Steve: 00:55:32

13 year old middle school kid in the

Steve: 00:55:35

first place is fucking

Steve: 00:55:38

disgusting. Also there. It begs the question,

Steve: 00:55:41

was muffy stuff, or was this just a Chuck

Steve: 00:55:43

scheme that comes out later? Right? they.

Leif: 00:55:45

They tell, them we'll get into that, but yes, that'd be

Leif: 00:55:48

a ski.

Steve: 00:55:49

Okay. Yeah, I thought so.

Steve: 00:55:51

Jean-Paul: I wanted to head because I. So the guy. The guy's

Steve: 00:55:54

real name is Serge, right?

Steve: 00:55:56

Yeah.

Steve: 00:55:56

Jean-Paul: So. So, like, surge from, like, baby hills

Steve: 00:55:59

cop.

Steve: 00:56:00

Yes. Yeah.

Leif: 00:56:02

Perfect strangers again.

Leif: 00:56:04

Jean-Paul: My head works in weird ways. I'll

Leif: 00:56:07

be the first to admit it. I get weird

Leif: 00:56:09

connections. I'm just thinking, holy

Leif: 00:56:12

cow, if there were

Leif: 00:56:15

this weird kind of world. Yeah,

Leif: 00:56:18

I could see surge from Beverly Hills cop coming to New

Leif: 00:56:20

York.

Leif: 00:56:22

Since you brought it up, have you watched the new one yet?

Steve: 00:56:28

I've actually heard really good.

Steve: 00:56:30

Jean-Paul: It's much better than part three because it's not rated pg

Steve: 00:56:32

13.

Leif: 00:56:34

I weirdly like part three because it just hit

Leif: 00:56:36

that weird spot. My childhood, we always had HBO

Leif: 00:56:39

as a kid. Played a million times.

Leif: 00:56:41

Jean-Paul: Of course. Yeah.

Leif: 00:56:42

On HBS. Yeah, that's kind of. I

Leif: 00:56:45

kind of like. I like three better than two.

Leif: 00:56:47

Jean-Paul: Okay.

Leif: 00:56:48

I mean, one's obviously the best, but I like

Leif: 00:56:51

three better than two.

Leif: 00:56:52

Jean-Paul: See, I. I'm a Gen X kid. so

Leif: 00:56:55

I grew up with one and two. Like, even

Leif: 00:56:58

though I was a kid, watching them, not supposed to be watching

Leif: 00:57:00

them. And Kenny loggin soundtrack in part two

Leif: 00:57:03

just. It's so much for me.

Leif: 00:57:05

This one.

Leif: 00:57:06

Jean-Paul: This one. I mean, it's. It's a

Leif: 00:57:09

really, really, really good movie. They should just

Leif: 00:57:12

stop, though, because

Leif: 00:57:15

everybody involved is just a little too

Leif: 00:57:18

old, you know?

Steve: 00:57:19

Yeah.

Steve: 00:57:19

Jean-Paul: Eddie Murphy is definitely not doing a lot of

Steve: 00:57:22

stunts in this movie.

Steve: 00:57:25

It's entertaining, you know,

Steve: 00:57:27

and.

Leif: 00:57:28

And I will check it out.

Leif: 00:57:29

Jean-Paul: It's streaming, so it was the smartest thing that.

Leif: 00:57:32

Exactly. They. They decided to. We're not

Leif: 00:57:35

going to play with the box office. We're just going to throw it out swimming.

Leif: 00:57:38

So.

Steve: 00:57:38

Yeah, yeah.

Steve: 00:57:39

Jean-Paul: There's my quick back.

Steve: 00:57:42

The gossip girl. again, even though

Steve: 00:57:45

surge is a homosexual, I

Steve: 00:57:48

could see him in this world, too, just messing with

Steve: 00:57:51

these kids.

Steve: 00:57:55

So, yeah, there's my.

Leif: 00:57:57

I just want to know what he was doing with that tulip.

Leif: 00:57:59

Jean-Paul: Yeah.

Leif: 00:58:03

Serena calls Aaron to give him yet another

Leif: 00:58:06

chance when yet another woman answers his

Leif: 00:58:09

phone. I mean, come on.

Steve: 00:58:11

After he changes his voicemail, m. Or answer. it

Steve: 00:58:14

must be his answering it is an answer.

Leif: 00:58:16

Yeah, it is, but that's.

Leif: 00:58:17

Jean-Paul: That's also what gets me. Okay, so there's another girl

Leif: 00:58:20

there, right? And the answering machine kicks

Leif: 00:58:23

on again. I said, I'm sure that girl.

Leif: 00:58:26

I grew up with answering machines. You hear a message

Leif: 00:58:29

play. So that goes there.

Steve: 00:58:31

Listening to that message go for someone

Steve: 00:58:33

else. Right?

Steve: 00:58:34

Jean-Paul: For someone else. That girl's okay with it,

Steve: 00:58:37

too, and it answers.

Steve: 00:58:39

Yeah.

Steve: 00:58:39

Jean-Paul: Who is this? Can I leave a,

Steve: 00:58:42

message? I mean, what kind of girl's low

Steve: 00:58:45

self esteem? I don't know.

Steve: 00:58:48

I just say that just really low self

Steve: 00:58:50

esteem. Does you want to be with this.

Leif: 00:58:53

Low self esteem and daddy issues?

Steve: 00:58:54

Yeah.

Steve: 00:58:55

Jean-Paul: Yeah. With that issues indeed.

Steve: 00:58:57

Or just full on polyamorous, just like,

Steve: 00:59:00

the flip side of it.

Steve: 00:59:01

Jean-Paul: Sure.

Steve: 00:59:02

Hey.

Leif: 00:59:02

Yeah, serena is just the odd one out.

Steve: 00:59:05

Yeah. She just hasn't been invited into the. Into

Steve: 00:59:08

our group yet.

Steve: 00:59:09

Jean-Paul: There you go.

Steve: 00:59:10

I mean, Serena leader does say, is it going to be the whole

Steve: 00:59:13

harem?

Leif: 00:59:16

It's moments before showtime when nate lets

Leif: 00:59:19

Jenny know her family is here. Looking for

Leif: 00:59:21

jenny begs Nate to stay.

Steve: 00:59:24

It was cute.

Leif: 00:59:25

I definitely like jetty and Nate together again.

Steve: 00:59:27

Yeah.

Steve: 00:59:28

Jean-Paul: Yeah. It was very cute. Nate still kind

Steve: 00:59:31

of, you know, trying to redeem himself as a good guy

Steve: 00:59:34

in this episode.

Steve: 00:59:35

I really. And throughout this

Steve: 00:59:38

podcast, I have championed nate, where

Steve: 00:59:40

nate has done some. I mean, even when he

Steve: 00:59:43

was, you know, sleeping with someone

Steve: 00:59:46

for money, he was doing it not in a vacuum.

Leif: 00:59:49

And also, he was a victim.

Steve: 00:59:51

He was a. Yeah, he was a victim. And it was.

Steve: 00:59:54

And it was, like, out of

Steve: 00:59:56

desperation, and he was victimized. And.

Steve: 00:59:59

And, like. And that's.

Leif: 01:00:02

That's scene when he's in the limo, driving away, just looking out the

Leif: 01:00:05

window. So sad.

Leif: 01:00:06

Jean-Paul: So. So you're saying. Yeah, you're not creatively Nate

Leif: 01:00:09

to that puppy dog with the puppy dog

Leif: 01:00:12

eyes, saying, I'm a

Leif: 01:00:15

poppy.

Steve: 01:00:16

I mean, that's how I feel about him a lot because he is like

Steve: 01:00:19

a golden retriever. It's.

Steve: 01:00:21

Jean-Paul: It's okay, Nate. You a dumb dog, but we still

Steve: 01:00:24

love you. And, like.

Steve: 01:00:26

And pretty much, he's a dumb dog. And, like,

Steve: 01:00:29

if you put something in front of him, if you put the right

Steve: 01:00:32

leg in front of him, he's gonna hunt. Like,

Steve: 01:00:35

and.

Leif: 01:00:35

And those legs just happen, like shiny,

Leif: 01:00:38

blonde things.

Leif: 01:00:39

Jean-Paul: Yeah. Yeah. Shiny blonde things is true.

Steve: 01:00:43

But but he also, like. But he never

Steve: 01:00:46

mistreats the people

Steve: 01:00:48

that he. That he. You know, you're right.

Leif: 01:00:51

He's kind of absent minded. Yeah.

Steve: 01:00:54

Yeah, exactly. You know, the only person he really

Steve: 01:00:57

has mistreated at all was Blair, by

Steve: 01:01:00

cheating on her before the show started, and

Steve: 01:01:03

how he treated her in the first several

Steve: 01:01:05

episodes.

Steve: 01:01:06

Jean-Paul: But that's because he didn't know.

Steve: 01:01:09

Yeah.

Leif: 01:01:09

And he was also getting pretty, basically, he wanted to break up more. There was.

Leif: 01:01:12

His parents were basically forcing him to date her. Yeah.

Steve: 01:01:15

He, like, another very sympathetic

Steve: 01:01:18

side to him. Like, to me, has always been a

Steve: 01:01:21

sympathetic character.

Leif: 01:01:23

Lily and Barr are, ah, presented with an award when we see

Leif: 01:01:26

Lily smile and wink to someone in the crowd,

Leif: 01:01:28

presumably Rufus. But maybe some.

Steve: 01:01:31

I would hope not. I would hope maybe anyone

Steve: 01:01:34

else.

Leif: 01:01:36

But, I mean, it shows, like,

Leif: 01:01:39

it's a kind of rufus, like, looking around the audience. They

Leif: 01:01:41

immediately cut to lily, and she winks.

Steve: 01:01:44

Yeah.

Leif: 01:01:44

At the camera. It's like,

Leif: 01:01:46

okay. so, obviously there's still feelings there.

Leif: 01:01:49

Jean-Paul: Obviously.

Steve: 01:01:50

Obviously.

Leif: 01:01:52

I don't think this marriage departs that long from this world.

Steve: 01:01:54

Well, I mean, I think it's more like, I don't think this

Steve: 01:01:57

marriage to Lily.

Steve: 01:02:00

Marriage to Lily is long for this world.

Leif: 01:02:03

Fair enough. The lights go out and

Leif: 01:02:06

the.

Leif: 01:02:06

Jean-Paul: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Leif: 01:02:07

Cover of Sheena is a punk rocker plays over the

Leif: 01:02:09

PA speakers. A video montage of

Leif: 01:02:12

Agnes and her model friends wearing Jenny's designs play

Leif: 01:02:15

on the monitors. Then the models themselves burst

Leif: 01:02:18

into a darkened room carrying flashlights and dancing

Leif: 01:02:21

on the tables, even smashing a glass or

Leif: 01:02:24

two. I, love the scene.

Steve: 01:02:26

Yeah. Jenny did an amazing job on this event.

Steve: 01:02:28

Yeah.

Leif: 01:02:29

First of all, I love the song. It's a great song. But, yeah,

Leif: 01:02:32

the whole setup was, you know, the lights just go

Leif: 01:02:35

out and everyone's like, what's going on? Yeah,

Leif: 01:02:37

headed up great.

Steve: 01:02:39

Like, classic Ramon song that you then, like, have

Steve: 01:02:42

with the. With the women

Steve: 01:02:44

vocalist for. From the aas. Like,

Steve: 01:02:47

yeah, I. And, yeah, I really loved.

Steve: 01:02:50

I think Jenny just fucking nailed it, and I

Steve: 01:02:53

loved it.

Leif: 01:02:54

And then at the end of it all, Jenny, in celebration,

Leif: 01:02:57

embraces and kisses Nate in view of

Leif: 01:02:59

everyone, including Vanessa. Jenny is

Leif: 01:03:02

immediately guilt rin and chases after

Leif: 01:03:05

v. So.

Steve: 01:03:06

Yeah, yeah. And fucking

Steve: 01:03:09

Vanessa. Maybe if he didn't suck. Vanessa is my

Steve: 01:03:12

note.

Steve: 01:03:14

Jean-Paul: Vanessa.

Steve: 01:03:15

Maybe if he didn't suck so bad, like, if he didn't, like, hate

Steve: 01:03:18

on Nate for the fucking tough decision and

Steve: 01:03:20

victimization that he went through and, like.

Leif: 01:03:23

Well, she does. I mean, she. If you

Leif: 01:03:26

remember, they clearly dumped

Leif: 01:03:29

her.

Steve: 01:03:29

Yeah, yeah.

Leif: 01:03:30

At the. Their last interaction, she. And then she.

Leif: 01:03:33

But she's still hung up on him. So I'll say. Yeah.

Leif: 01:03:36

Jean-Paul: The middle part of this episode, they did basically say, I

Leif: 01:03:39

mean, she is still hung up. Yeah, yeah.

Leif: 01:03:41

So I m think it's implied by from the

Leif: 01:03:43

scene that her and Jenny have talked about.

Leif: 01:03:46

Actually talked about it.

Steve: 01:03:48

Yeah, I would get that, too.

Leif: 01:03:50

I would.

Steve: 01:03:50

I think that's a good read.

Leif: 01:03:52

Looks like it's froze before hoes for little

Leif: 01:03:55

J, who know when her loyalty kicked in, Nate

Leif: 01:03:58

would be kicked out.

Leif: 01:04:00

Gossip girls little scene, over there.

Leif: 01:04:04

Dan and Rufus are still trying to track down

Leif: 01:04:07

Jenny, so they're still just running around.

Steve: 01:04:09

Yeah, I got nothing.

Leif: 01:04:11

Yeah, Blair is doing some mentoring with Emma

Leif: 01:04:14

once Emma steps out of the limo. Blair. Thanks, Chuck,

Leif: 01:04:17

for getting a gossip girl to put out a

Leif: 01:04:20

fake blast. This power shuck has, I

Leif: 01:04:23

doubt it's one you learn from a jedi.

Leif: 01:04:27

How did Chuck, get Gossip Girl to put out a fake

Leif: 01:04:30

blast?

Steve: 01:04:30

Yeah, and, I mean, there's the obvious

Steve: 01:04:33

answer, but then there's also the idea

Steve: 01:04:36

that this isn't the first time Chuck has gotten

Steve: 01:04:39

gossip girl to put out a blast.

Leif: 01:04:41

Yeah.

Leif: 01:04:42

Jean-Paul: What's the obvious answer?

Steve: 01:04:43

the obvious answer to me would be Chuck being

Steve: 01:04:46

gossip, which was what I called in episode one.

Steve: 01:04:49

But I also have kind of backed off on any kind of

Steve: 01:04:52

speculation on that. Only because I

Steve: 01:04:55

know that on a meta level, I know that

Steve: 01:04:58

they didn't really know who Gossip girl was going to be

Steve: 01:05:01

until toward the end that they had an

Steve: 01:05:04

idea, and then they started changing it, and then they had a

Steve: 01:05:07

few people in mind. So I. That's a piece of

Steve: 01:05:10

meta knowledge that I got.

Steve: 01:05:11

Jean-Paul: Okay, again, since I didn't watch this when

Steve: 01:05:14

it was actually so I don't know who Gossip Girl is,

Steve: 01:05:18

and again, I'm not going to tell you because I didn't. I did not watch

Steve: 01:05:21

this show. Went on. And

Steve: 01:05:23

while watching it, you know, with my

Steve: 01:05:26

wife, I kept going, is it going to be this? Is it

Steve: 01:05:29

this? I went through the gambit.

Steve: 01:05:32

Yeah, m and I started that, you.

Steve: 01:05:34

Jean-Paul: Know, because from day one, I was like, I

Steve: 01:05:37

want to figure this out. And. But then. But then,

Steve: 01:05:40

now that you tell me that, it reminds me of

Steve: 01:05:43

the whole, what I call the middle

Steve: 01:05:46

finger of the creators of lost did

Steve: 01:05:48

to the public.

Steve: 01:05:51

It's not purgatory. It's not purgatory.

Steve: 01:05:54

Oh, wait, it is purgatory.

Steve: 01:05:57

Yeah, to anybody who doesn't, never.

Steve: 01:05:59

Watch lost after episode one, when

Steve: 01:06:02

everybody came out and said, oh, they're all dead. No, they're

Steve: 01:06:05

not dead. What? That's ridiculous.

Steve: 01:06:08

And then as soon as the reveal got you,

Steve: 01:06:11

it's like, no, you didn't. You lied to us.

Steve: 01:06:13

Yeah.

Steve: 01:06:14

Jean-Paul: Yeah. when you say lie, that's

Steve: 01:06:17

personally what made me mad about the show because.

Steve: 01:06:20

Yeah, same.

Steve: 01:06:21

Jean-Paul: I had art like, I had altered

Steve: 01:06:23

patient, arguments at work with

Steve: 01:06:26

co workers, one being randy, who, you know,

Steve: 01:06:29

from last roundup.

Leif: 01:06:30

Horror.

Steve: 01:06:30

Yeah, yeah.

Steve: 01:06:31

Jean-Paul: because that's actually where I met him at this job. And

Steve: 01:06:34

we would talk about the show loss, you know, every week. And

Steve: 01:06:37

I go, they're dead. This is clearly their

Steve: 01:06:40

employ. He's like, there is no way.

Steve: 01:06:43

You know? And he's like, ah. He's like, look, man,

Steve: 01:06:46

he would show me, like, the. He would show me, like,

Steve: 01:06:50

Entertainment Weekly magazine articles. And I'm

Steve: 01:06:52

like, look, they're lying to us. They're just lying to

Steve: 01:06:55

us. And then finally when it ended, you know,

Steve: 01:06:58

then finally the advent of, you know, our cell phones, we start

Steve: 01:07:01

texting each other. I. We were working at

Steve: 01:07:04

different jobs. We both watched it. And I just texted him. I

Steve: 01:07:07

go, I told you.

Steve: 01:07:08

Yeah, yeah.

Leif: 01:07:09

Ah.

Leif: 01:07:10

Jean-Paul: And all I got was, fuck you.

Leif: 01:07:18

Yeah.

Leif: 01:07:19

Jean-Paul: So I. Again, I'm glad to

Leif: 01:07:21

hear that they had an idea, but not

Leif: 01:07:24

really, like, because I don't want another middle

Leif: 01:07:27

finger. Like, yeah.

Leif: 01:07:30

So if you. If you're curious about the lore, at the beginning, they

Leif: 01:07:33

were planning on it to be Eric.

Leif: 01:07:35

Jean-Paul: Okay, interesting.

Leif: 01:07:37

Everyone. Everyone figured it out. There's even, like, a

Leif: 01:07:40

big New York Post article that was Eric. So

Leif: 01:07:43

they. At that point, they just kind of, like, scrapped it.

Steve: 01:07:45

And they were.

Leif: 01:07:47

Yeah, they were leaning towards a couple different people. And there's a couple

Leif: 01:07:49

things pointing to it. And then I

Leif: 01:07:52

feel at the earliest they decide, they decided was

Leif: 01:07:55

the very end of season five.

Leif: 01:07:57

Jean-Paul: Okay.

Leif: 01:07:58

Like, probably when they were writing the season five finale

Leif: 01:08:01

is when they decided, all right, that.

Steve: 01:08:03

Yeah. And now the other reason

Steve: 01:08:06

that I would say that Chuck could get that blast out

Steve: 01:08:09

is that Chuck, I believe,

Steve: 01:08:12

would be a credible source

Steve: 01:08:15

to gossip Girl. That if Gossip Girl saw something

Steve: 01:08:18

from Chuck, that she would say, okay, that seems

Steve: 01:08:20

legit, I'll blast it.

Leif: 01:08:22

Because, like, Claire seemed depressed that he got it.

Steve: 01:08:25

Yeah. But that's also kind of weird because they

Steve: 01:08:28

all have gotten stuff posted on

Steve: 01:08:30

Gossip Girl at one point or another. Like, Dan has

Steve: 01:08:33

had something posted on Gossip Girl.

Steve: 01:08:35

Jean-Paul: See, the old reason why. Why I think Chuck's got the

Steve: 01:08:38

quote unquote read to do that.

Steve: 01:08:41

Seth already has pool

Steve: 01:08:44

within this world,

Steve: 01:08:47

so anything.

Steve: 01:08:48

Yeah.

Steve: 01:08:48

Jean-Paul: Like, that came from Chuck,

Steve: 01:08:51

you know, because he's already a popular figure

Steve: 01:08:54

in this world, and m people know who

Steve: 01:08:57

he is. Gossip girl would be like, yeah,

Steve: 01:09:00

I'm gonna go ahead and do it because eventually that seems gonna

Steve: 01:09:03

be clicks for Gossip girl. Right, right.

Steve: 01:09:06

So that's why I think Chuck's got the

Steve: 01:09:08

clout to do that.

Steve: 01:09:10

Yeah.

Steve: 01:09:11

Jean-Paul: Even if he may not know or if he doesn't know

Steve: 01:09:14

that he has that clout.

Steve: 01:09:16

Yeah.

Leif: 01:09:17

Blair does some mentoring with Emma in a

Leif: 01:09:20

roundabout way. Admits that she loves, or at

Leif: 01:09:23

least loved. Check.

Steve: 01:09:25

Is this where she refers to muffy as the lacrosse?

Leif: 01:09:28

Yes.

Steve: 01:09:30

Blair had some, some great lines in it. That was

Steve: 01:09:33

one of them.

Steve: 01:09:34

the other thing she said to Emma was, stop making

Steve: 01:09:37

sounds with your mouth. I think.

Steve: 01:09:40

Stop making sounds with your mouth.

Leif: 01:09:42

Dan finally gets the bad news he was expecting from

Leif: 01:09:45

Jordan, the ta at Yale. Serena is there to

Leif: 01:09:48

comfort him. Dan seems to be

Leif: 01:09:50

regretting taking the moral high ground rather

Leif: 01:09:53

than selvishly using the people he knows for his

Leif: 01:09:56

writing.

Steve: 01:09:56

I did like having a nice Dan

Steve: 01:09:59

Serena moment. I know it's setting up episode

Steve: 01:10:02

ten, which is going to be a Dan Serena

Steve: 01:10:05

episode, so I do like

Steve: 01:10:08

that moment. But my note here is Dan decides to

Steve: 01:10:11

be a bigger asshole.

Steve: 01:10:12

Jean-Paul: I did not agree with you on that one.

Steve: 01:10:15

Yeah. Yeah. Like, you just see him in real time.

Steve: 01:10:17

Be like, I was only a shittier person.

Steve: 01:10:20

I might be able to achieve stuff.

Leif: 01:10:23

Well, I mean, I. I mean, they've shown him going back and forth

Leif: 01:10:25

on writing this story. Yeah.

Steve: 01:10:27

Ah.

Leif: 01:10:27

For several episodes.

Steve: 01:10:28

Yeah.

Leif: 01:10:29

Like, at least three. Clearly, like, the people have

Leif: 01:10:31

told him. Yeah. Yeah. Write this story, and you can get it to yell.

Steve: 01:10:34

Yeah.

Leif: 01:10:35

So I understand where he's coming from. He's. Yeah, but like,

Leif: 01:10:38

that, he's finally now, like, he sees jetty getting what she

Leif: 01:10:40

wants. Bye.

Steve: 01:10:41

But taking it.

Leif: 01:10:42

Yeah. By taking it. So he's like, okay, I'm gonna do that,

Leif: 01:10:45

too.

Steve: 01:10:45

Yeah.

Leif: 01:10:46

Which, definitely, like, kind of go to the dark side, but.

Steve: 01:10:49

Yeah. And what's funny is that Jenny did that, but

Steve: 01:10:52

Jenny also didn't hurt anyone. You know, like,

Steve: 01:10:55

whereas he's like, she caught.

Steve: 01:10:57

Jean-Paul: I was really property damage, you know?

Steve: 01:10:59

that's true.

Steve: 01:11:00

Jean-Paul: The.

Steve: 01:11:00

They didn't have to break those.

Leif: 01:11:02

The event itself, it did interrupt

Leif: 01:11:05

like, everyone did. Ended up enjoying it. But, I mean,

Leif: 01:11:07

Washington. Yeah. Rude thing to do, practically.

Leif: 01:11:10

Blair brings Emma home only to find misses Borbund

Leif: 01:11:13

is already waiting for them. Blair is about to blackmail

Leif: 01:11:16

misses Borman, potentially blowing up their family,

Leif: 01:11:19

when Blair decides to spare Emma added pain because

Leif: 01:11:22

she clearly sees a lot of herself in Emma.

Steve: 01:11:24

Blair was so good. Like, Leighton.

Steve: 01:11:27

Leighton Meester was so

Steve: 01:11:30

good in this scene. Yeah. Like, just the

Steve: 01:11:33

facial expressions and, like,

Steve: 01:11:35

that blank look at the end when she just

Steve: 01:11:38

loses the fight. When the fight goes out

Steve: 01:11:41

of her, and you just see her

Steve: 01:11:44

portray that so masterfully. Fucking

Steve: 01:11:47

love watching her work Jenny is.

Leif: 01:11:49

Looking for Vanessa when Rufus finally tracks her

Leif: 01:11:52

down. Rufus is furious and demands that

Leif: 01:11:54

Jenny apologize to Lily. Lily

Leif: 01:11:57

accidentally unnervings Rufus when she lets Jenny

Leif: 01:12:00

know that there is no need to apologize because she loved the guerrilla

Leif: 01:12:02

fashion show. Rufus, off his rocker,

Leif: 01:12:05

tries to get Jenny arrested. Luckily, Lily

Leif: 01:12:08

steps in to defuse the situation.

Steve: 01:12:11

Rufus is Rufus such an

Steve: 01:12:13

asshole. Like,

Steve: 01:12:16

before.

Steve: 01:12:16

Jean-Paul: Before I'm gonna defend him in this. This

Steve: 01:12:19

thing, only. Only because he's being

Steve: 01:12:22

a father. And he's, like,

Steve: 01:12:25

also trying to cover his own ass because his 50 year

Steve: 01:12:27

old daughter just messed up a

Steve: 01:12:30

gala event in New York. He doesn't know if he

Steve: 01:12:33

could get fine. If the fact that his daughter is going

Steve: 01:12:36

to end up going to jail, he's going to have to deal with

Steve: 01:12:39

that kind of that. I mean, this is the only time

Steve: 01:12:42

I felt in this episode that Rufus actually acted

Steve: 01:12:45

fairly well.

Leif: 01:12:46

But he knew his Lily's event already.

Leif: 01:12:49

And Lily just came over and said, like, the reason why he went

Leif: 01:12:52

up to the cop is Lily wasn't going to do anything.

Leif: 01:12:54

Jean-Paul: Lilly, Lily does the. I dream of Jeannie, you

Leif: 01:12:56

just. I'm, here.

Leif: 01:12:59

Well, but.

Steve: 01:13:00

But Lily to be like, you know, I don't. I'm not

Steve: 01:13:03

mad about this. And for him to then be like, well, fine,

Steve: 01:13:06

I'll show her. I'm gonna have a cop arrest my kid

Steve: 01:13:09

because I'm mad still. Yeah, like,

Steve: 01:13:12

that's the shitty parent.

Leif: 01:13:13

Yeah, I mean, or whatever.

Leif: 01:13:16

But.

Leif: 01:13:17

Jean-Paul: But he was also trying to,

Leif: 01:13:19

like, I mentioned before, a lot of people in this

Leif: 01:13:22

episode, it's everybody covering their own

Leif: 01:13:25

asses and everybody tied it being their

Leif: 01:13:28

own selfish kind of way.

Steve: 01:13:29

Well, and I really. What I think my big

Steve: 01:13:32

problem with Rufus in general, and we touched on

Steve: 01:13:35

this earlier, the. The difference between how he treats

Steve: 01:13:38

Dan and Jenny. And I really think the

Steve: 01:13:41

biggest thing with Rufus is Rufus is

Steve: 01:13:44

jealous that he had this

Steve: 01:13:46

career that didn't take off.

Steve: 01:13:49

Jean-Paul: Yes.

Steve: 01:13:49

He had this rock star career that

Steve: 01:13:52

fizzled because he

Steve: 01:13:55

wasn't good enough to make

Steve: 01:13:58

it any bigger than he made it. He was

Steve: 01:14:00

number nine on the ten most forgotten bands of the

Steve: 01:14:03

nineties, and that's where he landed. And

Steve: 01:14:06

so he doesn't want to see his kids

Steve: 01:14:09

go down in flames, but he won't let them take

Steve: 01:14:12

the risks that they are ready

Steve: 01:14:15

to make. Like, what?

Leif: 01:14:17

I think you're kind of getting on the right track there. But

Leif: 01:14:20

he didn't necessarily go down in flames. Both

Leif: 01:14:23

times he came home because he wanted to be with his kids.

Leif: 01:14:26

So does he secretly blame them and how

Leif: 01:14:29

it's like, oh, they. They can have it, but I can't.

Leif: 01:14:31

Jean-Paul: That's a good point.

Steve: 01:14:33

That's a really good point.

Steve: 01:14:34

Jean-Paul: Is a great point.

Leif: 01:14:35

That is just said both times that he didn't flame

Leif: 01:14:38

out. He came home because he wanted to be with his kids.

Leif: 01:14:41

We just saw just earlier this season, they wanted him back on.

Steve: 01:14:44

Yeah. Yeah.

Leif: 01:14:45

He's gonna do a big college stadium tour.

Steve: 01:14:47

Yeah. And. And you're right. He's.

Steve: 01:14:49

That. That is such a great insight that he.

Steve: 01:14:52

That. Yeah, fuck him.

Steve: 01:14:55

I'm so mad at him in this fucking

Steve: 01:14:58

episode.

Leif: 01:14:58

Yeah, fuck him again.

Leif: 01:15:01

Jean-Paul: Did not need to be in this episode again.

Leif: 01:15:04

Like, I. Joppa, I agree with you. Like, this could. He

Leif: 01:15:07

could have.

Steve: 01:15:07

This is.

Leif: 01:15:08

You know, he's in with his right to parent Jenny, Harri and

Leif: 01:15:11

Punisher. But they'll call the fucking.

Leif: 01:15:13

Jean-Paul: Oh, I mean, again, hovering his own

Leif: 01:15:16

ass. Because think about it. Let the cops sort it out, and I won't

Leif: 01:15:19

have to deal with it.

Steve: 01:15:20

Yeah.

Leif: 01:15:20

yeah, that's. That's being a lazy.

Steve: 01:15:22

Yeah, it's really lazy.

Steve: 01:15:24

Jean-Paul: Never said he was parent of the year. What?

Steve: 01:15:27

My dad used to do shit like that. Like, threatened to,

Steve: 01:15:30

like, well, if you ever did this, I would call the police on you. Like,

Steve: 01:15:33

like, my dad would do pull that kind of shit. And it

Steve: 01:15:35

was when I was an adult that I was like, what? Lazy

Steve: 01:15:38

parenting to call the police on your kidde.

Steve: 01:15:41

Like, you can't handle them, so you're gonna hand them over to the

Steve: 01:15:44

cops.

Leif: 01:15:46

Poor Jenny. All that glamour almost

Leif: 01:15:49

led to the slammer. But what will the morning

Leif: 01:15:52

bring? We move

Leif: 01:15:55

into the epilogue. Chuck finds

Leif: 01:15:58

Nate once again squatting at his empty

Leif: 01:16:00

childhood home. Chuck tries to get Nate to

Leif: 01:16:03

come stay with him. However, whether it's his

Leif: 01:16:06

pride, anger towards Chuck, or a combination,

Leif: 01:16:09

Nate refuses the offer to instead go back to the

Leif: 01:16:12

Hamptons where his mom is staying, which.

Steve: 01:16:14

Sucks, which means that we're gonna have another stretch of no

Steve: 01:16:17

Nate shows. Like fuck. like,

Steve: 01:16:20

Nate's. Nate is also. Nate and Jenny are my favorite

Steve: 01:16:23

characters, so I love when Nate's on.

Steve: 01:16:26

And now it seems like both of them

Steve: 01:16:29

are gonna be out for at least a little bit, I would

Steve: 01:16:31

think. I don't know. Maybe not jenny.

Leif: 01:16:34

I feel like jenny's storyline is just starting.

Steve: 01:16:36

Yeah. But I guess in my mind, the

Steve: 01:16:39

good storytelling would not have her

Steve: 01:16:42

in the next episode at all

Steve: 01:16:44

because that gives Rufus reason to be

Steve: 01:16:47

really fucking freaking out. But

Steve: 01:16:50

I didn't write it, obviously.

Leif: 01:16:53

Serena wakes, but I was.

Steve: 01:16:54

But I have taught writing.

Leif: 01:16:57

Serena wakes Blair with some encouraging words.

Leif: 01:17:00

Serena asks to leave when she gets a visitor, and

Leif: 01:17:03

Blair has a call from the dean.

Steve: 01:17:05

My note from this, I need to point out that my sister

Steve: 01:17:08

in law Allison would probably take

Steve: 01:17:11

high offense to. Princeton is a

Steve: 01:17:14

trade school.

Steve: 01:17:18

When Serena said that she could possibly go to

Steve: 01:17:21

Princeton. Princeton is a trade school. There

Steve: 01:17:24

is only Yale.

Leif: 01:17:26

Aaron has come over to ask Serena to get breakfast with

Leif: 01:17:29

him. Serena first shuts him down, but

Leif: 01:17:32

somehow Aaron manages to convince her to go to dinner

Leif: 01:17:34

instead. Why, Serena? Why?

Steve: 01:17:36

Yeah, like, he's sweet, but doesn't seem

Steve: 01:17:39

very honest, and. And there's the whole, like.

Steve: 01:17:42

And what about this other girl? Well, I could explain that

Steve: 01:17:45

to you, but do you just want to go out to dinner or not?

Steve: 01:17:49

Like, how about you

Steve: 01:17:52

give me that explanation first? Like, why does she

Steve: 01:17:54

not want that explanation first? Like,

Steve: 01:17:57

because.

Steve: 01:17:58

Jean-Paul: Does this smell like chloroform?

Steve: 01:18:04

Yeah, he's,

Steve: 01:18:04

Jean-Paul: He's got something.

Steve: 01:18:06

Like, he's striking me the wrong

Steve: 01:18:08

way.

Leif: 01:18:09

He's rich. Stop. Let's not forget that that is true.

Leif: 01:18:12

Jean-Paul: And licorice.

Leif: 01:18:13

I mean, yeah, he keeps stale licorice

Leif: 01:18:16

around his house.

Steve: 01:18:17

He does keep stale licorice for up to

Steve: 01:18:20

or. Or at least nine years.

Steve: 01:18:23

Jean-Paul: Yeah.

Steve: 01:18:23

Who knows when he started?

Leif: 01:18:24

She has.

Leif: 01:18:29

As Aaron leaves Blair, Blair runs

Leif: 01:18:31

in, excitedly tells Serena that Emma talked her up to the dean,

Leif: 01:18:35

and it looks like Blair will get into Yale after all.

Steve: 01:18:37

good job, Blair.

Leif: 01:18:38

Yay for Blair.

Steve: 01:18:39

Yay for Blair. I'm happy for her.

Leif: 01:18:41

In Brooklyn, Dan and miss the jenny's success has

Leif: 01:18:44

convinced him to turn in the story about Chuck

Leif: 01:18:47

bass or Charlie Trouthenne. Rufus shows everyone

Leif: 01:18:50

where Dan gets his judgmental side.

Leif: 01:18:52

Oh, by the way, jenny has moved out.

Steve: 01:18:55

Yeah. Rufus can't handle being

Steve: 01:18:57

a no hit wonder.

Steve: 01:19:00

Jean-Paul: Wow.

Steve: 01:19:03

Yeah.

Leif: 01:19:03

Yeah. Super. Yeah, you can definitely see where Dan gets

Leif: 01:19:06

it.

Steve: 01:19:06

Yeah. Yeah.

Leif: 01:19:08

And of course, the father of the year. Once again, he doesn't even

Leif: 01:19:10

notice his daughter moved out.

Steve: 01:19:12

Yeah. Yeah, you might be a little late for that.

Leif: 01:19:14

Daddy clearly noticed.

Leif: 01:19:16

Yeah, he didn't say, and he didn't. Yeah, Rufus.

Steve: 01:19:19

Like, yeah, Jenny left early this morning.

Leif: 01:19:22

And he didn't tattle.

Steve: 01:19:23

Yeah.

Leif: 01:19:24

He didn't just let her go.

Leif: 01:19:26

No. New tale to tell by love and

Leif: 01:19:29

rockets plays over an episode closing

Leif: 01:19:31

montage. Rita and Blair are laying in bed

Leif: 01:19:34

looking over the Yale course catalog. Nate is sending a

Leif: 01:19:37

letter to Jenny. Dan is sending a story to Noah

Leif: 01:19:40

Shapiro. Rufus is on the verge of tears, looking

Leif: 01:19:43

around at Genti's any room, and Jenny

Leif: 01:19:46

is dragging her bags down the street.

Leif: 01:19:48

SMB are headed to Yale. Nate's headed out of town,

Leif: 01:19:51

and Dan's headed for trouble.

Leif: 01:19:54

As for little J, she's nowhere to be

Leif: 01:19:57

seen. That's the episode.

Steve: 01:19:59

Yeah. Yeah.

Leif: 01:20:00

I really like the blair at Sarita. That was very cute.

Steve: 01:20:03

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Leif: 01:20:06

And, you know, we already kind of thought they had

Leif: 01:20:09

dad. We see a dad mailing the story, so he's

Leif: 01:20:12

definitely in now.

Steve: 01:20:13

Yeah.

Leif: 01:20:14

Dark dance here. And, ah, Jenny is, homeless.

Steve: 01:20:16

Yeah.

Steve: 01:20:17

Jean-Paul: I mean, is she homeless or is she gonna just go live with a friend?

Steve: 01:20:20

Jean-Paul: She's a runner.

Steve: 01:20:23

Jean-Paul: I mean, she's got all those. Those, phone calls to recur pro.

Steve: 01:20:26

Yeah. From all those people? Somewhat.

Steve: 01:20:28

Yeah.

Leif: 01:20:28

Yeah.

Leif: 01:20:29

Jean-Paul: Someone will give her some money.

Leif: 01:20:31

Steve, any predictions for next week?

Steve: 01:20:33

Well, no. Nate is my first

Steve: 01:20:35

prediction for. So I do know that there will be a

Steve: 01:20:38

Dan Serena interaction. I know that they're

Steve: 01:20:41

going to have an episode. I'm assuming that it's going

Steve: 01:20:44

to have something to do with Eren. I'm hoping that we're

Steve: 01:20:47

wrapping that up soon. And, yeah,

Steve: 01:20:50

other than that, I don't really have much of a prediction. I

Steve: 01:20:53

just.

Leif: 01:20:53

Any ideas where Jenny goes from here?

Steve: 01:20:55

Well, I'm thinking that Jenny is going

Steve: 01:20:58

to. I do believe she's going to start making some

Steve: 01:21:01

of those contacts that are reaching out for her,

Steve: 01:21:04

maybe even Lily. I could see her turning to

Steve: 01:21:06

Lily because Lily's cooler than

Steve: 01:21:09

rufus. I honestly would.

Steve: 01:21:12

Until we were talking earlier, I kind of wrote her off for an

Steve: 01:21:15

episode or two because I kind of figured that they

Steve: 01:21:17

would give a little bit of that. She's

Steve: 01:21:20

missing. Where is she? Before really

Steve: 01:21:23

taking her further.

Leif: 01:21:25

So let's go ahead and move into some

Leif: 01:21:27

segments. I'm going to be perfectly honest and admit

Leif: 01:21:30

that I totally forgot to woke up this week in fan. So we're

Leif: 01:21:33

just going to skip ahead to episode grades.

Steve: 01:21:36

We lied in the intro. We brought you

Steve: 01:21:39

all the way here, and then we lie. we pulled a

Steve: 01:21:42

lost on you.

Leif: 01:21:43

No phantom news this week, and my memory is

Leif: 01:21:46

not quite clear what happened. people were

Leif: 01:21:49

probably pissed off at Rufus. They're probably pissed off at

Leif: 01:21:51

Vanessa, probably mad at Dan. Yeah, they're probably mad at

Leif: 01:21:54

Dan. They're probably happy that Larry, that she loved

Leif: 01:21:57

Chuck, but frustrated, they can't love it, admit it to each other.

Steve: 01:22:00

Still, there'd probably be some mixed

Steve: 01:22:03

Jenny love and hate on the fashion show.

Leif: 01:22:06

She's a very mixed character.

Steve: 01:22:07

Yeah.

Leif: 01:22:08

So let's go ahead and get into some episode

Leif: 01:22:11

grades.

Leif: 01:22:14

Steve, you are up this week. So what first this week,

Leif: 01:22:17

what do you got?

Steve: 01:22:18

I gave this one a b. I liked the

Steve: 01:22:21

a storyline. I didn't hate the b

Steve: 01:22:24

storyline, despite it being weird. And

Steve: 01:22:26

then the Rufus stuff was just kind of

Steve: 01:22:29

sucked. But I didn't hate this episode. I found it

Steve: 01:22:32

engaging, at least, so I went

Steve: 01:22:34

b. John Paul.

Steve: 01:22:36

Jean-Paul: Well, I gave it a c.

Steve: 01:22:39

I really felt that this episode was kind

Steve: 01:22:42

of all over the place. The whole chasing around the little

Steve: 01:22:45

runt kid trying to lose her virginity, the

Steve: 01:22:48

fashion show and just the

Steve: 01:22:50

acting was nothing the best for a

Steve: 01:22:53

lot of these characters. And. And the

Steve: 01:22:56

writing, I don't know. It did not

Steve: 01:22:59

feel as fine tuned as come

Steve: 01:23:02

other, episodes in this season so far.

Steve: 01:23:04

And so it's, again, not

Steve: 01:23:07

the worst, but also, it was just average.

Steve: 01:23:10

It was just okay, you know? So definitely a c.

Steve: 01:23:13

I find that.

Steve: 01:23:14

A lot of episodes have much better

Steve: 01:23:17

directing than writing.

Steve: 01:23:18

Jean-Paul: Yeah. And I was gonna say, and I know, you

Steve: 01:23:21

guys mentioned that you liked the scene of the fashion show.

Steve: 01:23:24

I did, too, but I also thought that scene was kind of

Steve: 01:23:27

shot orally.

Leif: 01:23:28

yeah, I agree with that.

Leif: 01:23:29

Jean-Paul: The way. The way it would look, I think.

Leif: 01:23:31

It was shot on the handheld.

Leif: 01:23:32

Jean-Paul: Yeah, maybe, or. Or, like, because there's other

Leif: 01:23:35

things in this show when you see, like, fashion and different things,

Leif: 01:23:38

they're more glitzy and glamorous, and I understand because it

Leif: 01:23:41

was a gorilla style, that's kind of what they were

Leif: 01:23:44

going to, but it just did not seem on

Leif: 01:23:47

the level that this show does, when it comes to

Leif: 01:23:50

stuff like that.

Leif: 01:23:50

So I feel like they're trying to make it, like, I

Leif: 01:23:53

guess I think it was a, handheld, and I think they're trying to give

Leif: 01:23:56

it that kind of, like, in your face style. It

Leif: 01:23:59

didn't really hit, but I think I see what they're trying for.

Leif: 01:24:02

Jean-Paul: And again, what hit me was, like, when they showed the pictures of

Leif: 01:24:05

the girls of the fashion, that was cool. But when they

Leif: 01:24:08

actually showed the actual model Washington, that's

Leif: 01:24:11

where it was just, like, what? Very jarring. So

Leif: 01:24:14

I don't know.

Leif: 01:24:15

Yeah, I got, Like, yeah, I feel like they're trying to go for, like,

Leif: 01:24:18

that gritty style, like. Like a Friday night lights, like, with the

Leif: 01:24:21

handheld. Yeah, the jar. Like, the little bit of jarriness

Leif: 01:24:24

to it, but it didn't.

Leif: 01:24:25

Jean-Paul: Yeah, I didn't.

Leif: 01:24:26

Like, I said, it didn't.

Leif: 01:24:27

Jean-Paul: It took a swing, but, yeah, it missed. And, like, I said, just

Leif: 01:24:30

the way the episode kind of just was, like, these acts

Leif: 01:24:33

were very kind of weird and disjointed.

Leif: 01:24:36

Yeah.

Leif: 01:24:36

Jean-Paul: Because even the second very weird stories that just,

Leif: 01:24:39

like. And. And also they would just kind of sometimes where

Leif: 01:24:42

they would jump back and forth. Scenes at the bar.

Leif: 01:24:45

Now that you're. We. It's like, oh,

Leif: 01:24:48

I don't know.

Steve: 01:24:49

Didn't hit in this. There was a weird

Steve: 01:24:52

thing in the storytelling in this where the epilogue of

Steve: 01:24:55

this episode. The. The

Steve: 01:24:58

episode epilogue happens after some

Steve: 01:25:01

of the denouement of the other

Steve: 01:25:04

storylines. Right. Like, we have, like,

Steve: 01:25:07

the. We have the. The climax

Steve: 01:25:09

of the fashion show, and then we have the

Steve: 01:25:12

falling action happening during

Steve: 01:25:15

act three rather than

Steve: 01:25:17

fall. Then, you know, throughout the epilogue, like,

Steve: 01:25:20

it usually does.

Leif: 01:25:21

Like.

Steve: 01:25:21

Like, they just. They timed it weirdly in some

Steve: 01:25:24

places.

Leif: 01:25:24

Yeah. I'm kind of in between you guys. I had

Leif: 01:25:27

it as a B minus. I really,

Leif: 01:25:30

really like the a storyline with Jenny. Yeah. I

Leif: 01:25:33

love her getting her, fashion show

Leif: 01:25:36

off. She got her Jay Humphrey designs.

Leif: 01:25:39

But, yeah, the b storyline of the Emma

Leif: 01:25:42

was mediocre at best. And

Leif: 01:25:45

then the c storyline with Aaron and Sarita was horrible.

Leif: 01:25:48

So, yeah, B minus.

Steve: 01:25:50

Yeah. I think my thing with that b

Steve: 01:25:53

storyline was that I liked

Steve: 01:25:56

the team up. I didn't like what

Steve: 01:25:59

the. I didn't like the

Steve: 01:26:02

motivation. You know, I didn't like the losing

Steve: 01:26:04

my virginity, which I felt like they just. They needed it to

Steve: 01:26:07

be a. Be a big thing that's inappropriate

Steve: 01:26:10

for this kid to do. And

Steve: 01:26:13

so it just came out creepy. I felt.

Steve: 01:26:16

Jean-Paul: Well, I agree with the creepy. I mean, you could have just been like,

Steve: 01:26:19

she's, going, like, going out drinking.

Steve: 01:26:21

That's, you know, that's a yes. But.

Steve: 01:26:25

But, yeah, you could have done that better than, like, I just want to lose

Steve: 01:26:27

my for.

Steve: 01:26:29

Yeah.

Steve: 01:26:29

Jean-Paul: Because it would just.

Steve: 01:26:31

Yeah, it was very creepy before this other person.

Steve: 01:26:34

Jean-Paul: Yes.

Leif: 01:26:36

Moving on over to stock watch Steve, who

Leif: 01:26:39

do you got going up?

Steve: 01:26:40

Okay, so my stock going up.

Steve: 01:26:43

I have Jenny. I know she's homeless, but she also

Steve: 01:26:46

has 30 missed calls. Blair and Serena.

Steve: 01:26:49

Looks like Yale is doing well for them. I have

Steve: 01:26:52

Lily going up for just being a fucking

Steve: 01:26:55

champion for Jenny in the end and really

Steve: 01:26:58

coming through. And then I had Chuck going up because

Steve: 01:27:01

Chuck, you know, was a good guy and wasn't a

Steve: 01:27:04

complete creep in this episode. He wasn't a complete

Steve: 01:27:06

creep. He was just a little bit of a creep.

Leif: 01:27:09

But the kind of creepy, like, just, you know, the entertaining. Smart.

Steve: 01:27:12

Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

Leif: 01:27:13

But he doesn't actually do anything.

Steve: 01:27:14

Yeah.

Leif: 01:27:14

He just. He just kind of talks this.

Steve: 01:27:17

He does say to the 13 year old girl, let's not ruin

Steve: 01:27:20

this by you talking.

Steve: 01:27:21

Jean-Paul: He does that. You're right.

Steve: 01:27:23

he does say that, but he doesn't go through with anything.

Leif: 01:27:26

So, like, Jean Paul do you have going up?

Leif: 01:27:29

Jean-Paul: Definitely going up. You can tell that, you

Leif: 01:27:31

know, wants to be supportive. Didn't press

Leif: 01:27:34

charges or anything. Kind of played along with it.

Leif: 01:27:37

Yeah, this. This was a fact and show. Yeah, it's cool. I

Leif: 01:27:40

would say Chuck.

Steve: 01:27:41

Yeah.

Steve: 01:27:41

Jean-Paul: You know, like. Like you guys said,

Steve: 01:27:43

he wasn't his normal, total

Steve: 01:27:46

creepazoid.

Leif: 01:27:47

For me, I had Blair because she got into

Leif: 01:27:50

yellow. At least it looks like she's getting it to yell. I had Dan

Leif: 01:27:52

because, even though he had bad moments, he's

Leif: 01:27:55

now winning, I think is the way

Leif: 01:27:58

to say it. He's going to get what he wants it looks like as

Leif: 01:28:01

well. And again, another one. I didn't like to say

Leif: 01:28:04

going up, but I had to give it to Eric because he's got the

Leif: 01:28:07

wool pulling over Sabrina's eyes.

Steve: 01:28:09

Could you. Could you add Aaron to me, too?

Steve: 01:28:11

Yeah, he said, but

Steve: 01:28:14

he does.

Leif: 01:28:15

He does. this stock is definitely up.

Steve: 01:28:17

I kind of.

Leif: 01:28:18

And then. Yeah, it also Chuck because, same

Leif: 01:28:21

reasons. he's a decent.

Steve: 01:28:23

It's funny. Well, that. That storyline, the

Steve: 01:28:26

c storyline didn't even occur to me when I was doing stock

Steve: 01:28:29

watch. That's why I didn't think of Aaron. But you're right. He does go up, and

Steve: 01:28:32

I'm going to give it to him, too.

Leif: 01:28:33

Steve, who you got going down?

Steve: 01:28:35

I have Dan going down for being a complete

Steve: 01:28:37

fucking asshole throughout the entire

Steve: 01:28:40

episode.

Leif: 01:28:41

He definitely was an asshole.

Steve: 01:28:42

Yeah. I understand where you're. Why I.

Steve: 01:28:45

It's funny because oftentimes, you and I have the flip on

Steve: 01:28:48

that, where I'll see the business side of it, and you'll see, like,

Steve: 01:28:51

the. The fun, like. But,

Steve: 01:28:53

like, he was such a fucking asshole that I sent him

Steve: 01:28:56

down. And Rufus. I have Rufus going

Steve: 01:28:59

down for the parenting. I have

Steve: 01:29:01

Nate going down because Nate just kind of fucking lost

Steve: 01:29:04

everything. And I feel bad for Nate going down, but

Steve: 01:29:07

Nate. Nate's stock went down,

Steve: 01:29:09

Vanessa, because she was on screen.

Steve: 01:29:16

And then I also have Emma's mom going down,

Steve: 01:29:19

and I'm not talking about her date. I'm talking about

Steve: 01:29:22

misses Boardman stock. Yeah, misses Boardman stock went

Steve: 01:29:25

down. Those are mine, Jean Paul.

Steve: 01:29:27

Jean-Paul: All right, well, I have sarita going down because

Steve: 01:29:30

she still falls for this idiot.

Steve: 01:29:33

That is fair.

Steve: 01:29:34

Jean-Paul: I mean, like, it's just, like, come

Steve: 01:29:37

on. You think that she's learned

Steve: 01:29:39

better from falling for idiots, but

Steve: 01:29:42

no. So she's definitely going. She

Steve: 01:29:45

does have a type, but, yeah, she's definitely going down. I mean,

Steve: 01:29:48

I hate this, but, yeah, Nate's going down because

Steve: 01:29:51

he's, you know,

Steve: 01:29:53

homeless again. Yeah, and. And having to

Steve: 01:29:56

deal with whatever other than the matches. Yeah,

Steve: 01:29:59

whatever. In the Hampton.

Steve: 01:30:02

yeah.

Steve: 01:30:02

He's going to have to live full time at the estate in

Steve: 01:30:05

the Hampton.

Steve: 01:30:05

Jean-Paul: I mean, I know it's tough. It's really tough. It's really tough for him. So he's

Steve: 01:30:08

going down for that, rufus for, you know, being parent of the

Steve: 01:30:11

year.

Steve: 01:30:13

Yeah.

Steve: 01:30:13

Jean-Paul: I mean, we've talked about. It's just.

Leif: 01:30:15

Wow.

Leif: 01:30:16

Jean-Paul: Just. Yeah. And, who else I

Leif: 01:30:19

got. I mean, yeah, because Vanessa had

Leif: 01:30:22

nothing to do, really. That was really worth a

Leif: 01:30:25

damn in this episode.

Steve: 01:30:26

Yeah.

Steve: 01:30:27

Jean-Paul: So she's going down, even though I still enjoy her as a

Steve: 01:30:30

character.

Steve: 01:30:30

Jean-Paul: She is going down because. Yeah, she's just not

Steve: 01:30:33

anything or didn't.

Steve: 01:30:35

I think I gave Vanessa stock up on her first

Steve: 01:30:38

episode, and I'm not sure I've given her up

Steve: 01:30:41

since.

Steve: 01:30:43

Jean-Paul: Poor Vanessa. Yeah.

Steve: 01:30:44

I loved her in her first episode.

Steve: 01:30:46

Jean-Paul: Vanessa's my puppy dog. Then.

Steve: 01:30:50

That's fair.

Leif: 01:30:50

She should have been a good character, but they just didn't add the

Leif: 01:30:53

writer.

Leif: 01:30:54

Jean-Paul: She's my puppy dog,

Leif: 01:30:57

which is weird.

Leif: 01:30:57

Which is weird. In the book, she goes to casas with everyone

Leif: 01:31:00

else.

Steve: 01:31:01

Yeah.

Leif: 01:31:01

I don't know why they changed that. For me. Going down.

Leif: 01:31:04

I didn't have Jenny going up or down. I had her as

Leif: 01:31:07

neutral because she looks like

Leif: 01:31:10

she's blowing up, but she's also homeless, so

Leif: 01:31:12

she's going neutral. Nate,

Leif: 01:31:15

I had going down for the same reason you guys said he's

Leif: 01:31:18

homeless, and I. He looks like he lost his friend

Leif: 01:31:21

Dan. They looked like they had a good thing going

Leif: 01:31:24

on for a couple episodes. Serena going down

Leif: 01:31:27

because looks like she's going to be going down.

Leif: 01:31:32

Jean-Paul: It's called book rich.

Leif: 01:31:35

And then I had Emma going down just because she was

Leif: 01:31:38

annoying all episode.

Steve: 01:31:40

And that's fair.

Leif: 01:31:41

Just being, a

Leif: 01:31:43

dumb teenager, I guess. I guess I thought it was married

Leif: 01:31:46

Emma, but yeah. Yeah, I just gave her docs

Leif: 01:31:49

I wanted to and misses Boardman. also, I gave her

Leif: 01:31:52

to going down because she was challenging Rufus for being the

Leif: 01:31:55

worst parent in the episode.

Steve: 01:31:56

Yeah. Surprisingly, she actually

Steve: 01:31:59

succeeded.

Leif: 01:32:00

Yeah.

Leif: 01:32:00

Jean-Paul: You know.

Steve: 01:32:01

Yeah. Rufus tried to get his daughter arrested, but she was like,

Steve: 01:32:04

I don't want to spend time with you.

Leif: 01:32:06

Yeah, her screen time, she. She outdid

Leif: 01:32:09

him.

Leif: 01:32:09

Jean-Paul: yeah, she's down

Leif: 01:32:12

as well because of that reason. I agree with you because

Leif: 01:32:15

you're right. first screen time, I've got nothing to do.

Steve: 01:32:17

Yeah.

Steve: 01:32:17

Jean-Paul: Ah, yeah. Definitely

Steve: 01:32:19

work.

Leif: 01:32:22

And then last of all, Rufus, we talked about all that, so no need

Leif: 01:32:25

to elaborate.

Steve: 01:32:26

Yeah.

Leif: 01:32:26

Going on to best outfit.

Steve: 01:32:29

But here's the best outfits from the.

Steve: 01:32:32

Jean-Paul: Last episode we see.

Leif: 01:32:35

Steve, who you got?

Steve: 01:32:37

I'm giving it to Jenny for the dress during the fashion

Steve: 01:32:40

show, although Robin had the critique

Steve: 01:32:42

of. And I guess it's like a

Steve: 01:32:45

famous fashion person said that before you go

Steve: 01:32:48

out, look in the mirror and take off one thing.

Steve: 01:32:51

Robin did have that to say about Jenny's

Steve: 01:32:53

outfit, but I loved that dress. She was like,

Steve: 01:32:56

with the makeup and the hair, and she was like, there's too much

Steve: 01:32:59

punk rock happening. I loved it.

Leif: 01:33:02

All right, John Paul, what do you got?

Leif: 01:33:04

Jean-Paul: I gotta also go with Jenny, but I had that little. Little

Leif: 01:33:07

hat thing she had.

Leif: 01:33:08

Yeah. The shack.

Leif: 01:33:09

Jean-Paul: Yeah.

Leif: 01:33:10

I don't know.

Leif: 01:33:10

Jean-Paul: It was just adorable.

Steve: 01:33:14

Yeah.

Leif: 01:33:15

And. Yeah, yeah. So, and also she had the

Leif: 01:33:18

gold locket.

Steve: 01:33:19

Yeah.

Steve: 01:33:19

Jean-Paul: Yeah. So you're right.

Leif: 01:33:21

Always got to give props to the accessories.

Leif: 01:33:23

Jean-Paul: The accessories. Yep. So, yeah, definitely.

Leif: 01:33:26

And I was also going to give it to Jenny, but since you guys

Leif: 01:33:28

both gave it to her, I'm going to pivot to my second choice of the

Leif: 01:33:31

last, minute. And, it was, Agnes's dress that. The

Leif: 01:33:34

tool. I wasn't a big fan of the tights. She had, like,

Leif: 01:33:37

camo tights, but I like the tool with the black over top of

Leif: 01:33:40

it and the neck tie. Like, the loose

Leif: 01:33:43

neck tie.

Steve: 01:33:44

Nice. Yeah.

Leif: 01:33:45

I originally did have jetty written down.

Leif: 01:33:46

Jean-Paul: So we all like punk rock girls is what we're saying.

Leif: 01:33:50

Yeah. Yeah. I have been known to like

Leif: 01:33:53

a punk rock girl. And that is it for our

Leif: 01:33:56

segments, and we're gonna get some plugs. But

Leif: 01:33:59

first, John Paul, thank you for joining us.

Leif: 01:34:02

Jean-Paul: Yeah, we really appreciate you having me

Leif: 01:34:04

being on.

Steve: 01:34:05

please, if you have anything you'd like to plug, please,

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share and let us know.

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Jean-Paul: So I have a small, little segment in the last

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roundup or podcast called

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trailer Trash, where I

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just find horrible trailers of horrible

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movies and, you know,

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see if the rest of the gang enjoys them or not.

Steve: 01:34:28

Lately, they have. So I've not been doing my job

Steve: 01:34:31

right.

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And, I mean, it's a lot of fun.

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Jean-Paul: Yeah, it's a lot of fun. It did stem from, like,

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during COVID I had a, for

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a little bit, a small podcast where

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I, called Flock, fest,

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where I would invite,

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Randy over and force him to watch terrible

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movies, and then we would talk about them.

Steve: 01:34:54

That's funny.

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Jean-Paul: So kind of like mystery science theater, but I didn't quite, you

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know, open his eyes. Yeah,

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a lot of fun, random musicals because, you know,

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there's a lot of crazy stuff out there, like the

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apple.

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That's great.

Leif: 01:35:08

we'll make sure to get the links in the show notes to

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check those out, folks. Steve, what are you

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plugging?

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so I'm not sure exactly when this is coming out, but

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I'm pretty sure it's before October, right? So,

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so October 18 and

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19th, I will be a part of the Lockhaven

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Fringe festival. If you're in central Pennsylvania,

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come out to Lock Haven. I'll be playing,

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last year, I know I played two sets at two

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different places on two different nights, so I don't know

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what it's going to look like this year, but I'll have more

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details as we get closer. But come out to Lockhaven

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for the fringe festival.

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And we will be talking about another episode next week.

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It'll be season two, episode ten,

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bonfire of the Vanity. The

Leif: 01:37:23

Max episode description reads,

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jenny moves in with Agnes.

Leif: 01:37:29

she's not homeless after all.

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No. Oh, my God. Does that. Does what's his name still

Steve: 01:37:34

there? Is her. Is Agnes.

Leif: 01:37:37

That was Max's place.

Steve: 01:37:39

Oh, okay. Okay.

Leif: 01:37:40

They're after or. Yeah, we'll see. Where?

Leif: 01:37:43

I mean, presumably. I mean, she. We. Agnes

Leif: 01:37:46

is also at minor, so presumably she lives with her parents.

Steve: 01:37:48

We'll see. I mean, Jen. Vanessa doesn't

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m. Well, I told.

Leif: 01:37:53

Next time. You know you love us.

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Xoxo.

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Jean-Paul: Every time you walk away, run away you take a

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piece of me with you there

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every time you walk away, run away you take a

Steve: 01:38:07

piece of me with you there

Steve: 01:38:11

every time you walk away and run Away you take a piece

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of me with you there

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oh, it seems I'm walking right to

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your door.

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My heart's.

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Jean-Paul: Still resting looking for something

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more.

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Are.

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Jean-Paul: You ever gonna see everything you mean to me?

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Trying really hard to believe

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every time you walk away or run away you take a

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piece of me with you there

Steve: 01:38:43

every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve: 01:38:45

piece of me with you there

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every time you walk away or run away you take a

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piece of me with you there

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never feels right when I'm out here on my

Steve: 01:38:58

own

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I left last night and it feels like

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way too long

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are you ever gonna see everything you mean to

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me? I'm trying really hard to believe

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every time you walk away, run away you take a piece

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of me with you there

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every time you walk away, run away you take a piece

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of me with you there

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every time you walk away, run away you take a

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piece of me with you there

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come back to me

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smile and you'll make my life

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complete

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every time you walk away, run away you take a peek

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of me with you there

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every time you walk away or run away you take a

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piece of me with you there

Steve: 01:40:00

every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve: 01:40:03

piece of me with you there

Steve: 01:40:06

every time you walk away run away and take a

Steve: 01:40:09

piece of me with you there

Steve: 01:40:13

every time you walk away run away and take a piece of

Steve: 01:40:15

piece of me with you there

Steve: 01:40:19

every time you walk away and run away you take a

Steve: 01:40:22

piece of me with you there

Steve: 01:40:25

every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve: 01:40:28

piece of me with you there

Steve: 01:40:32

every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve: 01:40:35

piece of me with you there.