Episode 16

S4E16 - "While You Weren't Sleeping"

This week on The Non-Judging Breakfast Pod, Leif and Steve dive into Gossip Girl Season 4, Episode 16, “While You Weren’t Sleeping.” With nonstop Rolling Stones references, drug-filled tulips, and a chaotic Upper East Side birthday party, this episode packs in classic Gossip Girl excess.

The hosts break down Blair’s unraveling at W, Dan accidentally becoming a drug mule, and Eric’s $100,000 birthday problem. They also unpack Chuck and Lily’s corporate espionage scheme, Nate’s accidental seduction of Raina Thorpe, and Serena once again choosing family over logic.

Plus:

  1. A behind-the-scenes shoutout from director Norman Buckley
  2. Why Dan & Blair’s chemistry is the emotional core of the episode
  3. Damien Dalgaard’s final, audacious play
  4. Vanessa’s perfectly timed (and deeply annoying) return
  5. Rolling Stones Easter eggs you probably missed
  6. Episode grades, Stockwatch, and a trip to the Television Without Pity forums

Is this the episode where Dair truly begins? And is Ben… actually terrifying? Grab a mimosa and settle in.

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Transcript
Steve:

What?

Leif:

Michael.

Steve:

Michael, What?

Leif:

What does one drug cost? $100,000.

Steve:

What is. What does one drug cost, Michael?

Steve:

$100,000. The drugs are in the banana stand.

Leif:

Hey, Upper East Siders, and all you scandal loving

Leif:

listeners out there, you just tuned into the Not

Leif:

Judging breakfast pod where the coffee is strong,

Leif:

the waffles are fresh, and the gossip is hotter

Leif:

than ever. My name is Leaf, and I'm your seasoned

Leif:

Gossip Girl veteran.

Steve:

And I'm Steve, your newbie. The rookie, the

Steve:

greenhorn. I don't know, Leif. What am I this year

Steve:

now that we're in season four?

Leif:

I'm not sure, but smoking a joint before we record

Leif:

definitely makes you a better soldier.

Steve:

Well, I mean, to be fair, smoking a joint before

Steve:

pretty much anything I do is pretty much how I do

Steve:

it.

Leif:

Fair enough.

Steve:

So here's the deal, folks. Leaf has been lit

Steve:

watching Gossip Girl since it first aired, and I'm

Steve:

tuning in for the first time. And together, we're

Steve:

your dynamic duo, bringing you all the gossip,

Steve:

romance, and sometimes questionable fashion

Steve:

choices of this iconic 2007 series.

Leif:

Bring your magnifying glasses, because each week

Leif:

we're dissecting every juicy detail of the show

Leif:

one episode at a time. We'll connect the dots,

Leif:

uncover, those sneaky little Easter eggs, and of

Leif:

course, serve up some piping hot behind the scenes

Leif:

tea. And expect some iconic phantom moments too,

Leif:

because what's a deep dive without a little drama?

Steve:

And since we are all about inclusivity here at ah,

Steve:

the non judging breakfast pod, there is always a

Steve:

seat for you at our non judging breakfast table.

Steve:

So go ahead and grab a mimosa, a cup of coffee, or

Steve:

find something in Nate's robe pocket and we'll go

Steve:

ahead and get into this.

Leif:

And we are here today to talk about Season 4,

Leif:

Episode 16, While youe Weren't Sleeping. The

Leif:

original air date was February 21, 2011 and based

Leif:

on the movie titled While youe Were Sleeping. Have

Leif:

you seen it?

Steve:

I feel like I either saw it or at least made fun

Steve:

of. Was something that my mom would have loved,

Steve:

but I don't know if I watched it.

Leif:

I have not. It was the 1995 film which a subway

Leif:

clerk falls for a comatose man's brother. Directed

Leif:

by John Turtletub and starring Sandra Bullock and

Leif:

Bill Pullman as well as Peter Gallagher. Once

Leif:

again.

Steve:

Oh, interesting. Yeah, I don't think I saw it. And

Steve:

everything in the description is why? Because I

Steve:

pretty much hate most of what you just said. I

Steve:

love Bill Pullman, but I'm not a. No disrespect to

Steve:

Sandra Bullock, but I don't tend to like the

Steve:

movies she's in After Speed and just not.

Leif:

I like some of her movies.

Steve:

Yeah, I'm just not a huge fan. and beyond that,

Steve:

this just sounds like everything. Especially in

Steve:

1995. I would have hated everything about this.

Leif:

This episode was written by Sarah Goodman, who's

Leif:

kind of like, sort of like second in charge of the

Leif:

writings room right now. And her previous episodes

Leif:

include, in season two, the Wrath of Khan, where

Leif:

she came in with a bang there. And then season

Leif:

three kind of some. I don't know how much this is

Leif:

her fault. And just the stories in the middle of

Leif:

the season kind of sucks. She did how to Succeed

Leif:

in Bassness and the Hurt Locket and they. But they

Leif:

came back with Ex Husbands and Wise, which was

Leif:

good.

Steve:

And. Yeah.

Leif:

And then in season four, she's done Double

Leif:

Identity, which was co written with Joshua Safran

Leif:

as well as the Witches.

Steve:

Of Bushwick, which I believe were both also pretty

Steve:

good. I mean, I know the beginning of this season

Steve:

was fantastic. So who knew that Juliet's departure

Steve:

would be the bellwether, not this episode

Steve:

excluded. I think, this one definitely stepped it

Steve:

up again.

Leif:

And I think that that's kind of about the people

Leif:

at the hell of. You know, we got Sarah Goodman

Leif:

writing it and of course, friend of the pod

Leif:

directing, Norman Buckley.

Steve:

Yes. And his. He's all over this. You know, you

Steve:

can really see the. The way that this story is

Steve:

just brought to life. It was just another

Steve:

powerhouse episode, so.

Leif:

And, I did reach out to Mr. Buckley, and he was

Leif:

kind enough to answer some questions for us. And,

Leif:

here it goes right now. I'm sorry, I'm just now

Leif:

seeing this.

Steve:

I'll just tell you that I was.

Leif:

A fan of the Dan Blair relationship because I

Leif:

thought, as you said, they had great timing and

Leif:

played very well off each other. This made me

Leif:

very, very unpopular on Twitter with the fans. I

Leif:

apologize for being late to responding. I've just

Leif:

been covered over with this show here in Victoria.

Steve:

Maybe another podcast.

Leif:

Thank you for that, Darren. Thanks for, taking

Leif:

some time out of your day.

Steve:

Yeah, we really appreciate it and we love to hear

Steve:

your thoughts, so thank you very much.

Leif:

Why don't you give us that vulture recap?

Steve:

Here we go. from the narrator's constant and

Steve:

inexplicable Rolling Stones references, has

Steve:

someone in the writers room been reading life? To

Steve:

the discombobulating spectacle of Blair and Dan's

Steve:

burgeoning chemistry. Last, night's episode of

Steve:

Gossip Girl made Us feel at times like we were

Steve:

experiencing a temporary neurological disorder or

Steve:

having an ether flashback. Considering the

Steve:

following dizzying piece of dialogue which

Steve:

occurred upon Blair's arrival at the Van Der Bass

Steve:

Humphries 18th birthday party for Eric. Blair.

Steve:

What were you thinking?

Leif:

That I would arrive at this party and be greeted

Leif:

appropriately? I know you only admitted you

Leif:

needed.

Steve:

So you can make me a drug mule?

Leif:

That sticky note was meant for Penelope. Frankly,

Leif:

with her attitude, she could use.

Steve:

Some time behind bars. So that's it?

Leif:

There's no I'm sorry I could have gotten you

Leif:

arrested? Well, you're here, the party's lovely.

Leif:

Everything obviously turned out fine.

Steve:

Even if you already knew this conversation was

Steve:

being conducted because Serena was mad at Blair

Steve:

for apparently accidentally sending Dan to

Steve:

retrieve a batch of coke filled tulips that Eric

Steve:

said he'd retrieve for a drug dealer after said

Steve:

drug dealer threatened to expose Eric and Serena's

Steve:

mother for forging an affidavit that put Serena's

Steve:

ex teacher, who is now her boyfriend, in prison

Steve:

for three years. The tone, at the very least, is

Steve:

confusing. Were the writers attempting to make the

Steve:

audience feel disoriented, on par with sleep

Steve:

deprived Blair? Or have they lost their minds

Steve:

entirely by keeping the characters immutable and

Steve:

the story structure unrelenting and piling story

Steve:

lines on top of each other? Are they actually

Steve:

attempting to make this show into a parody of

Steve:

itself? Only in the fullness of time when

Steve:

historians and scholars have studied the Gossip

Steve:

Girl texts will we truly know the answers to these

Steve:

questions. Something really poignant from that is,

Steve:

especially last week's episode, that it really was

Steve:

a caricature of itself. It, almost was a, parody

Steve:

of earlier that season.

Leif:

Yeah. And also the Rolling Stones references in

Leif:

every single Gossip Girl narration of the episode.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah. And it's funny, I caught some of them.

Steve:

I didn't, even realize they were in all of them.

Steve:

So, like, I just. But I noticed, especially the

Steve:

first one. But that is really funny that. Yeah.

Leif:

Well, we move into Act 1 and starting off with the

Leif:

Rolling Stones references right off the top, Mick,

Leif:

Keith and their questionably costumed cohorts

Leif:

said, you can't always get what you want, but that

Leif:

doesn't mean it's okay for anybody else to have it

Leif:

either.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Dan emerges out of his bedroom to see Ben and

Leif:

Serena flirting in the living room. Dan once again

Leif:

inadvertently blows Serena's attempts to chameleon

Leif:

with her new partner. Dan leaves to get coffee in

Leif:

midtown. Ben thinks he's finally getting some

Leif:

alone time with her, but she asks to go see her

Leif:

mom about Eric's 18th birthday. Ben refuses to go

Leif:

to Lily's, even for the party.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Serena once again lying.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah.

Leif:

And Dan inadvertently blowing it up.

Steve:

Yep. Yep.

Leif:

Look, it's Aaron all over again.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that. Yeah. Again, a recycled

Steve:

storyline here. And I do love, that Dan had no

Steve:

fucks to give about Serena and Ben. The way that

Steve:

he was just like, I don't want to be around here.

Steve:

I'm not here to be, like, buddy, buddy and

Steve:

friendly. You live here. I'm out.

Leif:

I appreciated that, but could tell he does. He

Leif:

does still have feelings for Serena.

Steve:

Yeah, absolutely. yes. And you can tell that his

Steve:

whole thing is staying out of the apartment all

Steve:

day before he ever admits it. We can see that as

Steve:

an audience. I just mean that he's not playing

Steve:

pretend, you know, he's not pretending to be okay

Steve:

with this, which I like about Dan, because it's

Steve:

also disgusting and inappropriate. Yes.

Leif:

Well, that according to the show, though, right?

Steve:

The morality of Gossip Girl.

Leif:

At the penthouse, Eric is pretending to be sick to

Leif:

avoid a party. However, Rufus and Lily have no

Leif:

reason to doubt Eric's sincerity. Yeah, they're

Leif:

being nice to supportive parents.

Steve:

Right. The end. Eric is seemingly sick, and

Steve:

they're.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

It's more of a setup scene than anything else.

Leif:

At the Waldorf apartments, Serena comes home to

Leif:

find Dorota dressing Blair while Blair multitasks.

Leif:

Serena is still concerned that Blair is working

Leif:

herself too hard to distract herself from Chuck

Leif:

and Rena. Blair once again denies, and the

Leif:

conversation shifts to Ben and Serena struggling

Leif:

to find some loan time. When Serena leaves, Blair

Leif:

uses a blast about Reina being up for the position

Leif:

she got turned down for At Girls.

Steve:

Inc. We see this competition with Reina brewing a

Steve:

little bit more. I do like how Serena snapped at

Steve:

the one point and was like, oh, I guess the good

Steve:

friend time is now over. But. But also how Blair's

Steve:

like, I've got 30 seconds to finish this

Steve:

conversation.

Leif:

And also. But also, Serena, not only are you rich

Leif:

and have a trust fund, but your stepbrother owns a

Leif:

fucking hotel. If you really want to be alone with

Leif:

Ben, get a fucking hotel room.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah, you could. Yeah. What's Ben doing?

Leif:

Hell, you can afford to rent your own apartment.

Steve:

Yeah. Yes. Why, why are you struggling to find

Steve:

alone time?

Leif:

Plus, we know Blair isn't really at home at night.

Leif:

She's not sleeping well.

Steve:

but that's actually what Serena said, is that her

Steve:

light is always on.

Leif:

So it's okay if she's asleep because.

Steve:

Yeah, yeah, it's fine if she's sleeping. Just keep

Steve:

it down.

Leif:

At the Empire, Chuck recruits Nate to help win

Leif:

Brena back.

Steve:

This is a bad idea, Chuck. Yeah, this is a bad

Steve:

idea. Have you seen Nate? He's dreamy.

Leif:

You're telling specifically to be charming.

Steve:

Yeah. Hey, go charm this woman that I want to have

Steve:

fall back in love with me. And I mean, he does the

Steve:

work. Nate puts in the work for Chuck this

Steve:

episode.

Leif:

He's super obvious about him, but yes.

Steve:

Oh, yeah, he's totally obvious. I mean, you can't

Steve:

ask Nate to do something, and expect subtlety.

Leif:

At W, Blaire is Skyping with the minions and

Leif:

assigns them all tasks since she can only be in

Leif:

one place at a time. After the Skype call ends,

Leif:

Blair is informed that all her interns transfer to

Leif:

different departments due to her management style.

Leif:

Just then, Dan walks in and Blair announces that

Leif:

our new intern has arrived.

Steve:

I, couldn't help but wonder if part of the

Steve:

decision to have the minions at the Waldorfs and

Steve:

not W was just for that Skype money. If it was

Steve:

just to throw in the Skype thing, probably. I get

Steve:

why it also works to have her alone when Dan walks

Steve:

in, but I just thought I had that thought of, are

Steve:

we separating them for this Skype call?

Leif:

It also plays the mini just being dumb as well.

Steve:

Yeah, well, yes. And especially really sets up for

Steve:

their screw ups.

Steve:

Throughout the rest of the thing.

Leif:

Chuck meets Lily at the bar to try and apologize.

Leif:

However, when Lily rejects the apology, Chuck

Leif:

reverts to insults and catches a smack for his

Leif:

trouble. As Lily walks out, it's revealed that

Leif:

Russell Thorpe was watching everything from across

Leif:

the restaurant.

Steve:

So on the basis of the last two episodes, this

Steve:

whole scene, Robin and I were like, are you

Steve:

fucking kidding me? This is ridiculous. What is

Steve:

like, is this really happening? And we were got.

Steve:

We were 100% got by this scene because, oh my God,

Steve:

it would be just like the writers to have Lily be

Steve:

like, oh, I have feelings for him again. And like,

Steve:

oh my God, fucking Lily. it was just too on brand

Steve:

to, like, raise any red flags.

Leif:

Also, it is kind of ridiculous that Lily forgave

Leif:

him so fast.

Steve:

Yes. Yeah. Well, other than the fact that Lily

Steve:

fought so hard for that relationship from the get

Steve:

that I feel like when you have something like

Steve:

that. And I'll also say, just as a parent, that

Steve:

it's just that unconditional forgiveness that it's

Steve:

just you said you're sorry. I'm good with it. The

Steve:

other thing is with Lily in particular, I feel

Steve:

like Lily, really understands, like, oh, yeah, he

Steve:

thought it was the right business move and cut me

Steve:

out. All right, well played, Charles. Like, I also

Steve:

don't think. I think that this is so much of. This

Steve:

is sort of almost a game to Lily that it's just,

Steve:

oh, yeah, I can do anything I want and get away

Steve:

with anything. Oh, I didn't. Well, I'll find

Steve:

something else to get away with. So I think that

Steve:

that's why she forgave him so fast. But I do hear

Steve:

your point.

Leif:

Ben finds Serena in the lobby, who tells him that

Leif:

the party is off, but she still wants to wish Eric

Leif:

a happy birthday. When the couple are discussing

Leif:

alternate plans for the day, Eric walks up behind

Leif:

Serena.

Steve:

I was concerned that this episode was going to be

Steve:

a bunch of Eric sneaking around stuff, and it

Steve:

wasn't. I really liked that Eric went right to

Steve:

Serena, that he was caught leaving. And the one

Steve:

person that he can count on, even though he can't

Steve:

always count on her, he does trust her. And, she

Steve:

is kind of the only person he trusts. So he goes

Steve:

to her and gets her help. So I like that. I really

Steve:

thought this was a great Eric episode too. Yeah, I

Steve:

really liked the performance. I liked him having a

Steve:

consequential storyline. It was good.

Leif:

Chuck gets into a limo with Lily and it's quickly

Leif:

revealed that their performance at the bar was all

Leif:

a ruse to lure in Russell.

Steve:

Like I said, we were had. I really liked this

Steve:

little makeup. I really liked that. I just, I do

Steve:

think it is very much like Lily to just. Okay, you

Steve:

said you're sorry. I'm. I'm over and going along

Steve:

with it and trying to help Charles again. I liked

Steve:

it.

Leif:

And we get another Rolling Stones reference with

Leif:

the Gossip Girl. Can't get no Satisfaction. Looks

Leif:

like that's up for debate.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

And, ah, we roll into Act 2. Back in the lobby,

Leif:

Eric is explaining to Ben and Serena the pickle he

Leif:

is in with Damien. Ben wants Eric to let Lily pay

Leif:

the price and not risk anyone else. But Serena has

Leif:

a plan and tells Eric to un. Cancel the party.

Steve:

Again. I, I liked Connor's performance here. And I

Steve:

really liked where this was, how he roped Serena

Steve:

into it, and how they developed a plan together.

Leif:

And even though I don't necessarily disagree with

Leif:

Ben here, I do like that for once Serena chose her

Leif:

family over the guy.

Steve:

Yes. Yeah, I, I agree with that as well. And

Steve:

especially because, like, yeah, Ben, her mom

Steve:

fucked you, like, really bad. She's never not

Steve:

going to be her Mom.

Leif:

And he's not even going after Lily. Just doesn't

Leif:

want other people to risk getting in trouble to

Leif:

protect her. Yeah.

Steve:

And like you said, it's not that you really

Steve:

disagree with him. Like, he's. He's not wrong.

Steve:

Like, Lily, if anyone deserves anything, here it

Steve:

is Lily. Yeah, I completely understand Serena

Steve:

wanting to protect her mom. She did it for her

Steve:

dad, who is a bigger piece of shit. And as you

Steve:

know, in the five minutes he was in her life,

Steve:

fucked up more shit for her. And she was like, oh,

Steve:

I want you to get away.

Leif:

although Serena, like, three episodes, was ready

Leif:

to turn, over a mob to that reporter. But we'll

Leif:

forget about that.

Steve:

Yeah, but we always do. But then, so. It's such

Steve:

the cycle of Gossip Girl, too. And it's such the

Steve:

cycle of Serena Van Der Woodson, where no matter

Steve:

who she is, when she's mad, she will try to burn

Steve:

everything down around you. But the second she's

Steve:

not mad anymore, or the second you tell her not to

Steve:

be mad anymore or not to look out for someone, and

Steve:

then it's like, oh, well, that's my mom. Serena,

Steve:

maybe your mom deserves it. That's my mom, you

Steve:

jerk. No.

Leif:

An overworked Blair wants Dan to work for as an

Leif:

intern, but Dan will only help as a friend if she

Leif:

admits she needs his help.

Steve:

Cute. Really cute. And really great scene work

Steve:

together. This whole episode, the Blair and Dan

Steve:

scene work was just.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

Wonderful. And like you had asked Norman, like,

Steve:

that chemistry between Dan and Blair that kind of

Steve:

paralleled season two in the carriage, only we get

Steve:

this extended version of this. Of that energy.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Nate purposely bumps into Reina on the street.

Leif:

Reina's driver is missing, so Nate suggests the

Leif:

quickest way to her destination is through the

Leif:

park.

Steve:

I'd like to think that Nate got rid of the driver.

Steve:

Not like, got rid of the driver, but I'd like to

Steve:

think that Nate was like, oh, hey, you can't park

Steve:

here. Did something to get that driver to move.

Steve:

Because when he said, like, oh, you know, it was

Steve:

probably double parked and they ticket for that

Steve:

and stuff like that just seemed like you. Nate

Steve:

does not have that quick of a wit. So either he

Steve:

was sitting on that line for a while, but that

Steve:

car, he had to have had something to do with it,

Steve:

which I really like that, too.

Leif:

Now we get another Ivanka Trump reference.

Steve:

Yes. Because she was just meeting with Nate's mom.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

And is now going to go meet with Ivanka Trump. Oh,

Steve:

that's right. Because the Girls Inc. Thing.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

That's right. Yeah. It's funny because I didn't

Steve:

entirely put all of that together just because it

Steve:

was a few episodes ago. But now it's all making

Steve:

more sense.

Leif:

At the penthouse, Lily is planning the party and

Leif:

also trying to figure out how she and Chuck can

Leif:

get Russell out of the office so Chuck can perform

Leif:

some corporate espionage. Just then, Russell calls

Leif:

Lily and the two set up an immediate date at the

Leif:

Oak Bar.

Steve:

yeah, I liked that Chuck. You of all people know I

Steve:

can't call him. Like, you know, he needs to be

Steve:

pursuing me.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

And it's also just creepy. It's kind of creepy,

Steve:

but I also. It's also so intertwined in the ethos

Steve:

of the Upper east side. So I thought it was this

Steve:

really creepy yet meaningful banter between the

Steve:

two of them that, like, if anything, the reason

Steve:

that Lily and Chuck work so well together as

Steve:

they're with their relationship on all levels, is

Steve:

because they are the two soulless people on the

Steve:

show. I really think they're the two that have

Steve:

absolutely no actual soul.

Leif:

Ah.

Steve:

And have no. And so everything is just come and

Steve:

go. So if. If you hurt me. Okay, cool. I'll get

Steve:

over it. Give me a minute because I don't really

Steve:

feel anything.

Leif:

What do we think of Lily's choice of party theme?

Leif:

Yeah, seems kind of weird for an 18th birthday.

Steve:

Well, so, okay, I had that thought. But the other

Steve:

side of it is it's an 18th birthday for a kid who

Steve:

has no friends. So it's like, it's not really for.

Leif:

Him, but it's all a bunch of adults there.

Steve:

That's my point, is that it's like, it really.

Steve:

It's an, It's a party to celebrate that Eric is an

Steve:

adult amongst people that are. You know, it is

Steve:

really just another excuse for Lily to hold a

Steve:

social gathering.

Leif:

But do all those adults want to eat Mac and

Leif:

cheese?

Steve:

Yeah. I mean, weird high society people. Yeah,

Steve:

weird. But I think that it's also a matter of, oh,

Steve:

but it's for my kid. And I'm Lily vanderwoodsen

Steve:

Bass Humphrey.

Leif:

Fuck off.

Steve:

This is the party I'm throwing for Eric. And you

Steve:

will attend and you will bring him a gift and you

Steve:

will enjoy this party because he has no friends.

Leif:

Poor Eric.

Steve:

Poor Eric. Like the friendliest guy on the fucking

Steve:

show. Like the one guy who I want to be friends

Steve:

with on this show.

Leif:

At W. Blair is still struggling with lack of sleep

Leif:

and just keeps taking on more and more tasks. Dan

Leif:

is still trying to help, all while continuing the

Leif:

snarky banter. Then Serena and Eric enter the

Leif:

office and need Blair's help with the scheme.

Steve:

I loved this little clip. We need help with this

Steve:

scheme. She doesn't have time. Yes, I do like the

Steve:

whole. The whole layout there. And Dan, he's like.

Steve:

This has gone from, I forget his first movie

Steve:

reference, but to Saw two. Oh, it's gone from

Steve:

Working girl to Saw two. And I'm really not in for

Steve:

the gore porn. And walks out.

Leif:

I don't like refreshments with my theater. Reina

Leif:

is impressed with all the activities of Central

Leif:

park and admits she hasn't had a lot of time

Leif:

spending in parks since her mom took off. Nate

Leif:

convinces her to be late for her meeting to learn

Leif:

how to skate.

Steve:

Marina's the most irresponsible person in the

Steve:

business world. No, I have a meeting.

Leif:

Who cares?

Steve:

Let's go skating. Okay, cool. Flash forward.

Steve:

Smoking weed in the apartment like you have a

Steve:

meeting.

Leif:

To be fair, as with Ivanka Trucks, I doubt it was

Leif:

actually a business meeting. It was more of a

Leif:

social type.

Steve:

Okay, that is true. That is true. Probably

Steve:

something easily canceled.

Leif:

Planning some event or something stupid like that.

Steve:

Right. It's just also funny that she. Because it's

Steve:

not the first time she's blown off business for

Steve:

dumb shit. And, like, the flip side to that is

Steve:

that I love that Reina gives no fucks about other

Steve:

people's schedules and you're on Reina's time

Steve:

because she is set up as this powerful woman, and.

Leif:

I really love that.

Steve:

So I do love that she's like, oh, I've got this

Steve:

meeting. And Nate's like, let's go ice skating.

Steve:

And she's like, okay, everyone else's time can

Steve:

fuck off. But it's also. She's not, She's. She is

Steve:

kind of irresponsible, but she also. It's because

Steve:

she just forces everybody on her time. And I love

Steve:

that she's probably. I don't know if she's becomes

Steve:

main cast or if she's just a guest arc, like many

Steve:

of them have been this season. She's my favorite

Steve:

guest so far, I think. I cannot think of other.

Steve:

Well, Cecil. No, not Cecil. Cyrus.

Leif:

Cyrus.

Steve:

Cyrus. for a second, I was thinking Cyrus was the

Steve:

Cabbage Patch Kid, but that's Cedric. Cedric. But

Steve:

Cyrus is my favorite. But Raina is a close second.

Steve:

She is spic.

Leif:

She's gacular. And we do get a little bit more

Leif:

backstory here. It's a Blake if you miss and you

Leif:

miss it Moma. But, we find out that her mom left.

Steve:

Yes. Yeah.

Leif:

That At a very young age.

Steve:

Yeah. And I thought we had gathered that she left

Steve:

before, that it wasn't death that she had left.

Steve:

But this is where we learn how young she was.

Leif:

Blair finally admits that she needs Dan's help as

Leif:

a friend and peer and not an underling. As Blair

Leif:

is summoned out of the office, Dan begins to

Leif:

tackle Blair's to do pile. But the first item he

Leif:

goes to is this sticky note intended for Penelope

Leif:

to pick up the drug flowers.

Steve:

It was. I loved it. I loved the. I need Dan. I

Steve:

need the help of Dan Humphrey as a friend and peer

Steve:

and not a minion.

Leif:

What was that?

Steve:

And, you know, just. It's on my desk. Just grab

Steve:

something and start. And then you get there. And

Steve:

the most prominent thing is a big sign saying

Steve:

urgent Y. And a simple grab anything but the sign

Steve:

that said urgent. And everything is now Penelope's

Steve:

problem. But she didn't. But it works. I loved the

Steve:

two of them.

Leif:

And, this is what Gossip Girl has to say about it.

Leif:

Painting it black has nothing on the trouble one

Leif:

piece of purple paper can cause.

Steve:

Yep. Painting it black. And it's funny because I

Steve:

remember. I remember hearing that reference and

Steve:

being like, that seems forced without the thought

Steve:

of. All of these are Rolling Stone forced. Rolling

Steve:

Stones references. Yes.

Leif:

And we move into Act 3. Nate and Reyna had to

Leif:

return to the Empire because Nate spilled cider on

Leif:

her. Raina discovered Nate's weed stash and is

Leif:

curious as she has never tried marijuana. Nate

Leif:

tries to do a, Chuck essence and attempts to talk

Leif:

Chuck up to Raina. However, Raina would rather

Leif:

continue her day of first with Nate.

Steve:

You know who gets really good weed? She just

Steve:

pulled a joint out of your pocket. Out of your

Steve:

robe pocket. And you're like, you know where I can

Steve:

get better stuff? Chuck. And also Nate. I bet you

Steve:

get pretty good stuff because I bet you get your

Steve:

stuff from Joey.

Leif:

Why would he be getting bad stuff when he could

Leif:

just get it from his roommate? Anytime you want,

Leif:

Right?

Steve:

Yeah. But it was also just the way that, again,

Steve:

like, Raina being irresponsible. It's just like,

Steve:

oh, there's a joint in your pocket. You know, I

Steve:

never tried this. Let's do it. Let's. Let's burn

Steve:

one down right now. I thought that was an odd

Steve:

character choice for anyone. I feel like that is

Steve:

just.

Leif:

Well, at this point, I think she's already missed

Leif:

the meeting because they already went skating and

Leif:

dad cider and came back, got a shower, presumably.

Steve:

I guess I feel. So. I have two feelings on this,

Steve:

and the first one is I feel like that's not how

Steve:

people start smoking weed. Right. That it. That it

Steve:

isn't typically. Oh, I found this. All right,

Steve:

let's do it. I've never done this before. Let's do

Steve:

it. I feel like it's much more of a, You're in an

Steve:

environment, and people are like, hey, do you want

Steve:

to try this here? Are you interested? You know, I

Steve:

can feel like it's. The flip side to it is I think

Steve:

that there's. Because of a line that he says about

Steve:

peer pressure. Nate says about peer pressure. I

Steve:

think that this was also very specifically not to

Steve:

peer pressure her, not to do the hey, you want to

Steve:

get high? Hey. Because then that sends this

Steve:

different message to the people watching.

Leif:

Also. I just think most people start. Have their

Leif:

first toke much, younger age.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah.

Leif:

She's already been, like, grad school and

Leif:

everything. Been helping run her father's company.

Leif:

So she's like, mid-20s at least.

Steve:

Yeah, she's. Yeah, she's like. Yeah, like, early

Steve:

to mid-20s at the latest. So.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

That is also true that a lot of people like.

Leif:

I mean, as she. She was enjoying doing some new

Leif:

things and found this thing. Yeah. Why not? Why

Leif:

not? Yeah.

Steve:

Yeah. Let's keep going. I. I've always told my

Steve:

kids there's a time and place for everything, and

Steve:

that's college.

Leif:

We get interspersing scenes of Russell and Lily's

Leif:

date and Chuck sneaking into Russell's office to

Leif:

figure out who is backing him. Lily drags out the

Leif:

date until Chuck texts her, confirming he got the

Leif:

info.

Steve:

Oh, Howie. All of this is on Howie. Howie's

Steve:

illegal corporate subterfuge. but it was also fun

Steve:

cloak and dagger stuff. No complaints.

Leif:

The other weird thing is Chuck had to bribe that

Leif:

guy, and he scanned the card. So what did Howie

Leif:

even do? I guess the passwords he got.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah.

Leif:

Back at W. Blair is dressing down the minions when

Leif:

she realizes that Dan must have gotten the purple

Leif:

sticky note and went to pick up Damien's drugs.

Steve:

Yeah, I mean, this was the whole realization. But

Steve:

that's. Yeah, and a dressing down of the minions,

Steve:

too, right?

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

Yeah. Which was also funny.

Leif:

Dan arrives at the penthouse to deliver the tulips

Leif:

when he gets a call from Ben letting him know that

Leif:

Vanessa is at the loft to see him. Dan is still

Leif:

not ready to forgive or even speak to her. Serena

Leif:

and Eric are surprised to realize Dan is

Leif:

delivering the flowers, but quickly also notice

Leif:

that they are the wrong Ones as there is no hidden

Leif:

drugs.

Steve:

Yeah, because Eric's gonna know what coke tastes

Steve:

like. Oh, it tastes planty. How do you know Coke

Steve:

doesn't taste planty? Eric, how much. Have you

Steve:

tasted coke before?

Leif:

Well, he had that, like, two weeks where he's

Leif:

hanging out with Damian.

Steve:

That is true. Here. let's just taste some drugs

Steve:

just so you know what you're dealing with in the

Steve:

future. I thought that was pretty funny.

Steve:

It also just occurred to me, Emily, the new

Steve:

minion, was here, and Melissa Fumero was not,

Steve:

which, you know, I have loved Melissa Fumero. Is

Steve:

she. Is she done or believe so or does she come

Steve:

back and forth or.

Leif:

She might be gone at this point.

Steve:

Oh, bummer.

Leif:

We do get Jessica to hang around for pretty much

Leif:

the rest of the series, though.

Steve:

Yeah, she kind of indicated that when we. When we

Steve:

met her. But, yeah, because I'm. I'm Emily. She

Steve:

does not have time for names.

Steve:

I meant to bring that up earlier.

Leif:

Gossip Girl has this to say as we go to the break.

Leif:

poor E, only 18 and already welcoming all the

Leif:

makings of anyone's 19th nervous breakdown. That

Leif:

was probably the most secure of the references

Leif:

there.

Steve:

Yeah, just read it again.

Leif:

Poor E, only 18 and already welcoming all the

Leif:

makings of anyone's 19th nervous breakdown. 19th

Leif:

nervous breakdown is the name of the song.

Steve:

19Th nervous breakdown. Okay, I don't know that

Steve:

one.

Leif:

Yeah, that's why. That was probably, like, the

Leif:

deepest cut. They went.

Steve:

Yeah, that was. That one went over my head.

Leif:

We move into Act 4. Blair arrives at the party and

Leif:

is immediately confronted by Dan and Serena, who

Leif:

are upset she used Dan as an unwitting drug mule.

Leif:

Because of her lack of sleep. Blair was suffering

Leif:

from the Stroop effect and wrote purple on the

Leif:

purple sticky note. Despite meeting pink, Eric

Leif:

walks up and informs everyone that since there are

Leif:

no drugs, Damien says Eric now owes him $100,000.

Leif:

Conveniently, Serena knows that the checkbook for

Leif:

Eric's trust fund is somewhere amongst the

Leif:

birthday presents.

Steve:

It's funny. When we talked about this previously,

Steve:

I was thinking that Damian was going to be

Steve:

pressuring Eric specifically for his trust fund,

Steve:

and it turns out that it's Serena who's like, oh,

Steve:

a hundred. I love Dan's like, a hundred grand.

Steve:

Does anybody have that? And they all look at each

Steve:

other like, yeah. Serena's like, oh, your trust

Steve:

fund checkbook. This is an easy fix. Like, oh, 100

Steve:

grand. Why didn't we start there instead of drug

Steve:

muling for these people? Why didn't we just buy

Steve:

100 grand worth of coke and sell it ourselves.

Leif:

Well, like we said, Lily most likely has a slush

Leif:

fund specifically for blackmail. Yeah, she has

Leif:

gone there.

Steve:

Yes, the silence fund. It's. It's the hush fund.

Leif:

Chuck finds Rufus and Lily and informs them that

Leif:

Russell's backer is Bradley Kidd and has invited

Leif:

him to the party as he hasn't seen any of the

Leif:

data, on keeping Bass Industries intact. When

Leif:

Chuck walks away, Rufus tells Lily that all this

Leif:

double agent business gets his engine revving.

Steve:

Gross.

Leif:

I thought they were cute.

Steve:

They were so cute. They were. And it was like the

Steve:

increasing meaninglessness of Rufus Humphrey on

Steve:

this show. They were cute. He is just like

Steve:

supportive husband now. So they were cute. The

Steve:

flip side of it is, who are you, Rufus?

Leif:

Who are you?

Steve:

Who. Where's the rock and roller? Who is. Fuck the

Steve:

man and, like, who is so anti all of the amorality

Steve:

of the Upper east side? and now it's, like, landed

Steve:

my lady. That's all I needed. Souls are overrated.

Leif:

Nate and Reyna are playing video games and eating

Leif:

ice cream with potato chips when Nate gets a call

Leif:

from Chuck looking for Reyna. However, when Chuck

Leif:

sees Russell arrive at the party, Chuck decides

Leif:

it's better if Nate continues to distract Reina.

Leif:

Reyna is no dummy, though, and she realizes that

Leif:

Nate has been purposely trying to talk Chuck up

Leif:

all day.

Steve:

You noticed that? Wait, how did you. How did you

Steve:

see through me?

Leif:

Poor Nate.

Steve:

Poor Nate. Oh, Nate, you are the sweetest Nate.

Steve:

Just please don't go into finance because you're

Steve:

destined for your dad's future if you do become a

Steve:

therapist.

Leif:

Lily finds Eric opening presents in his bedroom

Leif:

and calls it Ghosh. She tells him, at least make a

Leif:

list for thank you notes. And Lily returns to the

Leif:

party, but is quickly replaced by Blair, who is on

Leif:

the phone with the florist. Blair storms off to

Leif:

find Penelope when she realizes she mixed up Eric

Leif:

and Eleanor's gifts. Serena also leaves when she

Leif:

gets a text from Ben to meet him downstairs.

Steve:

Of course, Damien shows up. Of course Serena has

Steve:

to go downstairs to meet Ben. But again, I also

Steve:

thought it was funny this Lily. Also, this is

Steve:

where Lily catches them going through the

Steve:

presents, too, right?

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

Yeah. keep a list for thank you cards. But, I

Steve:

mean, because it is so tacky to walk in and

Steve:

they're just, like, tearing through all these

Steve:

gifts.

Leif:

I was so excited for a new addition to my stock

Leif:

portfolio.

Steve:

Yeah, that's right. They lie to her, too. And

Steve:

they're like, okay, well, just keep going.

Leif:

As, she's Exiting the party, the Serena rolls her

Leif:

eyes when Damien gives her a smug a great party.

Leif:

Damien goes into Eric's bedroom and wishes him, a

Leif:

happy birthday.

Steve:

I love Damien. In most of this episode, I loved I

Steve:

because I the audacity and confidence of a rich

Steve:

white man that Damien walks around this party

Steve:

with. Again, the zero fucks ness of his. Like.

Steve:

Like, yeah, I'm gonna go grab a cocktail. You. So

Steve:

I know that's later, but just the confidence that

Steve:

he walks around this party is hilarious.

Leif:

Well, they apparently have zero security because

Leif:

Vanessa also just walks right in.

Steve:

Well, yeah, like I was thinking about that. Also,

Steve:

when Ben shows up later, it's how anyone can just

Steve:

at any time walk into the Vander woods and

Steve:

Humphrey Bass apartment.

Leif:

Yes. Serena finds Ben in the lobby. Ben is upset

Leif:

that Serena is risking others to protect Lily, but

Leif:

Serena is annoyed right back and ditches Ben to go

Leif:

help Eric again.

Steve:

Like, I don't think Ben is wrong, but I'm glad

Steve:

Serena is choosing her family and choosing Eric

Steve:

especially.

Leif:

Blair introduces herself to Bryn Harold from the

Leif:

opera board, who is talking with Lily. Lily then

Leif:

breaks off to speak with Russell. Russell says he

Leif:

is there to deliver a gift as an old family

Leif:

friend, but slips in a compliment about Lily's

Leif:

looks as well. Rufus walks up and makes a big

Leif:

scene to scare Russell off.

Steve:

Loved it. I loved Matt and his peacocking and

Steve:

ruffling, and I loved it. I also felt like that

Steve:

was a cameo, the Blair at least. So, yeah, yeah,

Steve:

that felt like a cameo.

Leif:

Blair doesn't get the interview she was hoping

Leif:

for, but instead gets mocked for wearing

Leif:

mismatched shoes. Brian Howard seems more

Leif:

interested in meeting Reyna. We see Dan observing

Leif:

the conversation in.

Steve:

The background, and it's funny how the shoes are

Steve:

hardly mismatched. if she was at a party, I

Steve:

wouldn't have noticed that, I don't think.

Leif:

But did you recognize the shoe on the left foot?

Steve:

Was it from wizard of Oz?

Leif:

No.

Steve:

Oh, no, then I did not.

Leif:

Well, there's a reason why she probably did

Leif:

mismatched shoes. Because the pair is no longer

Leif:

with Blair. She gave it away earlier this season.

Leif:

Oh, it's the Roger Vivier buckled pump.

Steve:

Who did she give her shoes to?

Leif:

She gave one shoe.

Steve:

Oh, right. To the prince, Louis. To the prince,

Steve:

yes.

Leif:

And the bowl that she got her mom. A Baccarat

Leif:

bowl. Uh-huh. The first date that Blair and Louis

Leif:

went on was at the Baccarat Crystal Room.

Steve:

Yes. So some throwbacks. These types of throwbacks

Steve:

are often foreshadowing. So, yeah, that's right.

Steve:

She gave her shoe to the prince as a whole cute

Steve:

Cinderella come find me in New York thing. So,

Steve:

okay, that's a really interesting setup there.

Leif:

As he is leaving the party, Russell sees Brad Kidd

Leif:

arriving and decides to stay. When Chuck walks up

Leif:

and thanks Mr. Kidd for accepting his invite.

Steve:

And Russell, of course, hasn't left yet. So close.

Steve:

Almost out the door. And then sees him coming in

Steve:

and decides to stay.

Leif:

Lily walks in on Eric writing Damian a check for

Leif:

$100,000 and immediately snatches it before Eric.

Leif:

Eric can hand it over. The scene cuts with some

Leif:

narration from Gossip Girl and a commercial break.

Steve:

I like the snatch. Well, phrasing Steve. I like

Steve:

the way that Lily snatched the check. I'm not

Steve:

saying that I liked Nevermind. And now it said

Steve:

something. This has to come out.

Leif:

this is what Gossip Girl says as we go to the

Leif:

break. I hear a storm is threatening someone's

Leif:

very life today. Let's hope they find some shelter

Leif:

and it's not behind bars.

Leif:

So we go into Act 5, and Lily assumes Eric is

Leif:

buying a hundred thousand dollars worth of drugs.

Leif:

And Damien excuses himself to grab a cocktail and

Leif:

some Mac and cheese so they can figure out what to

Leif:

do.

Steve:

Yeah, again, I loved Damien's audacity just to be

Steve:

like, you all have something to work out here.

Steve:

I'll be in the other room. Let me know when we've

Steve:

worked out how I'm getting my money. Like, no

Steve:

fucks about Lily. Like, not worried about that at

Steve:

all. Which is probably arguably the person that

Steve:

you should be the most afraid of. Although also,

Steve:

you can see that Lily probably doesn't necessarily

Steve:

want to start a war with a duke too. So.

Leif:

Yeah, she would just pay the $100,000.

Steve:

Yeah. Which she does. You know, I mean. Yeah.

Leif:

But yeah. Well, it's like, what M. Michael.

Leif:

Michael.

Steve:

What.

Leif:

What does one drug cost? $100,000.

Steve:

What is. What is one drug cost Michael? $100,000?

Steve:

the drugs are in the banana stand.

Leif:

Going back into the party allows Damian to observe

Leif:

the confrontation between Russell, Chuck and Mr.

Leif:

Kid. Russell attempts to paint Chuck as a sad boy

Leif:

who lost his daddy's company to get Mr. Kidd away

Leif:

from the party. But Mr. Kidd decides to stay and

Leif:

hear Chuck out.

Steve:

I thought that was a nice way to bring that

Steve:

around, that Chuck's scheme. Chuck's schemes often

Steve:

blow up in his face, so it was nice for one that

Steve:

he deserved to win.

Leif:

To get the win, Dan is chilling at the snow cone

Leif:

stand when he spots Vanessa and marches over to

Leif:

tell her off. Vanessa has the Incredulity to turn

Leif:

Dan's accurate accusations around and walk away

Leif:

from him. Yeah.

Steve:

First of all, Vanessa, what Dan said on the phone

Steve:

to Ben was, I don't want to see you. I'll get in

Steve:

touch with you when I'm ready, to talk to you

Steve:

because I don't want to see you. And when she

Steve:

comes in and has the audacity to. To be like, oh,

Steve:

so I guess I can't even come back to you either.

Steve:

And Dan was like, remember that time that my

Steve:

sister came forward and you threw her under the

Steve:

bus and then skipped down?

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

Remember that? So, yeah, you really can't come

Steve:

back until I say I'm ready for you. And when he's

Steve:

like, vanessa, I'm not. When he, when she turned

Steve:

and he's like, vanessa, I was about to be like,

Steve:

dan, what are you possibly going to say? I'm not

Steve:

chasing after you. Fuck yeah. Good job. Well, I

Steve:

wouldn't stop if you said you were chasing after

Steve:

me. Get the fuck out, Vanessa.

Leif:

And like, she's bitching about always being an

Leif:

outsider, but she never wanted to be part of the

Leif:

Upper East. At least she said she did.

Steve:

Yeah, she always hated them. She always did

Steve:

everything she could when Dan went to constance or

Steve:

to St. Jude. She did everything she could to

Steve:

separate herself from them. She always wanted to

Steve:

be with Dan. But like, yeah, Vanessa, to this

Steve:

crowd you're an outsider because you have set that

Steve:

up.

Steve:

Be less of an asshole. These people might want to

Steve:

hang out.

Leif:

With you in the bedroom. Eric has just got done

Leif:

explaining to Lily what he really needed the money

Leif:

for. Lily apologizes and wishes he had come to her

Leif:

first and finally admits that forging Serena's

Leif:

signature was wrong. This allows Sarita and Lily

Leif:

to reconcile.

Steve:

It was nice that they kind of got that because

Steve:

it's been the whole season that they've been

Steve:

fighting up until now, right? Pretty much.

Leif:

Pretty much. yeah.

Steve:

I mean, since the end of last season really. So I

Steve:

like that they're finally getting a moment of

Steve:

reconciliation. I like that Lily takes

Steve:

accountability and says, this is my problem to

Steve:

handle. I'll pay them off, essentially. Oh, put

Steve:

your $100,000 away, Eric. I'll pay them off. Is

Steve:

that all he's asking for? That's adorable.

Leif:

Dan finds Blair standing alone in Rufus office.

Leif:

Dan admits that Blair was right about him trying

Leif:

to avoid Ben and Serena at the loft in an attempt

Leif:

to get her to open up about her competition

Leif:

against Reyna. It doesn't work because Blair

Leif:

continues to be in denial despite Being reminded

Leif:

of her mismatched shoes, Dan steps out when the

Leif:

new minion shows up to get the bowl that was

Leif:

intended for Eleanor. The Minion also lets her

Leif:

know that Jessica went to the wrong class and

Leif:

Blair got an F. She also congratulates a surprise

Leif:

Blair for a great blog post. And through a quick

Leif:

deductive question, Blair realizes Dan must have

Leif:

written the blog for her.

Steve:

Cute. I love the whole scene. there was that weird

Steve:

camera shot at one point that there was a, ah,

Steve:

tilt angle from the floor when she hands the bowl

Steve:

over, which felt like it was.

Leif:

I didn't really notice that.

Steve:

Yeah, it was one of those things that it felt like

Steve:

it was trying to show something, but then nothing

Steve:

came of it. So it was just an interesting camera.

Leif:

Angle, but it really shows. I mean, the scene as a

Leif:

whole encapsulates how well Blair and Dan already

Leif:

know each other.

Steve:

Yes. And how well they work together. They can

Steve:

really complement each other.

Leif:

Out on the street, Ben grabs and threatens Damien,

Leif:

and Damien takes the point and hands the check

Leif:

over to Ben. The camera pulls out to reveal that

Leif:

Vanessa saw the whole conversation while waiting

Leif:

for a cab.

Steve:

Ben, am I to believe that you have contacts that

Steve:

will just kill someone for free for you?

Steve:

Apparently you don't have hitman money. We. We've

Steve:

established this. You do not have hitman money

Steve:

unless you go through your girlfriend who would

Steve:

just have her mom do it.

Leif:

Now this is, this is. I'm taking this more as he's

Leif:

like a gang leader, essentially.

Steve:

Well, and I had that. So, okay, so he's in prison

Steve:

and it's like, these guys only stop beating Howie

Steve:

because I told them to after 10 minutes. Takes a

Steve:

lot less time to kill a person. And I do like the

Steve:

threat of like, of, him, Damien being like, yeah,

Steve:

whatever, bullshit. And he's like, okay, okay, it

Steve:

can be bullshit, or you can wait. Wondering every

Steve:

day the rest of your life walking down the street

Steve:

if that person behind you is going to kill me. It

Steve:

is a pretty weighty threat, but I'm just

Steve:

struggling to believe that you have much authority

Steve:

outside of prison. And also, like, you're this

Steve:

mild mannered, super sweet teacher who goes to

Steve:

prison and becomes a gang boss who starts wielding

Steve:

that kind of power. Is he part of the Aryan

Steve:

Nation? And we just don't realize. Does he have,

Steve:

like, some really offensive tattoos underneath his

Steve:

shirts? Is there a reason we haven't seen him

Steve:

shirtless? What power do you have outside of

Steve:

prison, Ben?

Leif:

I buy the Aryan Nation thing.

Steve:

Yeah, I. There's.

Leif:

But Steve, this is also A warning to you. be

Leif:

careful about reading too much Shakespeare.

Steve:

Yeah. Yes, exactly.

Leif:

And Gossip Girl has this to say about it. Turns

Leif:

out what Ben did while doing time wasn't on his

Leif:

side. Now Vanessa has him under his thumb.

Steve:

I missed that one. I missed that one.

Leif:

That was a double one.

Steve:

That was. I missed that. I missed both of those

Steve:

during the original thing. God damn. This is where

Steve:

Vanessa sees.

Leif:

Yeah, I said that. Yeah.

Steve:

Okay. Yeah. So, yeah. and also just fucking

Steve:

Vanessa.

Leif:

Fucking always right there.

Steve:

Yeah. And Vanessa, if you're the reason that this

Steve:

thing ends, it's like, thank you. But also, you're

Steve:

such an asshole.

Leif:

We move into the epilogue. In the lobby, Chuck

Leif:

hands Mr. Kidd a file photo which presumably shows

Leif:

the financials behind keeping bass industries

Leif:

intact. Mr. Kidd thanks him and says he'll be in

Leif:

touch either way. Chuck calls Nate to tell him

Leif:

that he's ready for him to bring Reyna over. Nate

Leif:

says he can't because Reyna figured out his plan

Leif:

and then lies and says she already left. Reina

Leif:

appears to have shifted her interest from Chuck to

Leif:

Nate.

Steve:

Upgrade.

Steve:

Who in their right mind is like, I need this

Steve:

person to remember they love me. I'm going to get

Steve:

my best looking, most charming, most dreamy friend

Steve:

who's not.

Leif:

Going to subterfuge at all.

Steve:

Yeah. And just. And have them take her on dates

Steve:

all day to talk about me. Nate is not the wingman

Steve:

you need here.

Leif:

No, someone on the forums pointed out like, I

Leif:

guess they were. They were like an account or

Leif:

something and said like some accountant had to

Leif:

stay late that night to fucking prepare that

Leif:

folder for Chuck to save his daddy's business.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

The guests are all gone. Eric, Serena, Rufus, Lily

Leif:

and Chuck sit down for some cake in the living

Leif:

room and recount the highlights of the night.

Leif:

Despite no Reina, Chuck is happy. He got to see

Leif:

Russell's face when Rufus accused him of sleeping

Leif:

with Lily. Serena thought she was having ether

Leif:

flashbacks when she saw Vanessa at the party. Eric

Leif:

comments on Blair's mismatched shoes. Just then,

Leif:

Ben walks in and hands Lily the check and lets

Leif:

everyone know Damian won't be bothering them

Leif:

anymore.

Steve:

Sure he won't. I also thought it was really funny

Steve:

that he walks in and Lily is like, Ben. And

Steve:

Serena's like, yeah, he's not here, blah, blah,

Steve:

blah. And then he walks in. Then before he leaves,

Steve:

when once they have the discussion, what does Lily

Steve:

call him?

Leif:

Benjamin.

Steve:

Benjamin. Okay, you are now on first. You are on

Steve:

now full name child basis. Because, yeah, if Eric

Steve:

had a longer name.

Leif:

Serena pulls Bed aside to thank him for protecting

Leif:

Lily. But Ben says he did it for Serena because he

Leif:

doesn't want anything to stand in the way of the

Leif:

relationship. Sarita nods to Ben, waves goodnight

Leif:

to Lily, and then leaves with Ben.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Yay. So romantic.

Steve:

Yeah, that's great, Ben. Now, you can take her

Steve:

across state lines without getting arrested.

Leif:

Yes.

Steve:

So enjoy.

Leif:

Blair shows up to the loft and tells him his blog

Leif:

post was well executed, but not enough to save her

Leif:

job. She admits that he was right about her trying

Leif:

to speedrun life to get back to Chuck. Out of

Leif:

jealousy for Reyna, Blair agrees to stay for pizza

Leif:

as long as it's gorbe.

Steve:

It was really sweet. I loved the confession and

Steve:

the I'm. And now I'm here with Dan Humphrey. He

Steve:

always has to have that stab. And it was just

Steve:

Brooklyn with Dan Humphrey. Yeah, with Dan

Steve:

Humphrey. I loved it. And they were just really

Steve:

fun together.

Leif:

Russell is alone in his office drinking dark

Leif:

liquor when his contemplation is interrupted by

Leif:

Damien. Damien offers to give Russell the

Leif:

information about the forged affidavit in exchange

Leif:

for $100,000 and add an amenity.

Steve:

His price is really not high.

Leif:

Make a profit off it, dude.

Steve:

Yeah. Like, yeah, you look. I just need 100 grand.

Steve:

It's like you could walk in there. Russell Thorpe

Steve:

could probably give you seven figures for the

Steve:

information you have.

Leif:

But that is the last time we see Kevin Ziegers on

Leif:

the show.

Steve:

Oh, that Damian is Goodbye. Goodbye. So I was kind

Steve:

of hoping that this would be the end. And then

Steve:

because of that, I was like, oh, well, I guess

Steve:

not. I guess we're. And again, Damian is by far is

Steve:

far from my least favorite character. I think he

Steve:

is top five guest stars or, you know, guest roles.

Steve:

I think he's up there with later Georgina. I think

Steve:

he's up there with. Not quite with Reina and

Steve:

Cyrus, but a, really good for the role he played.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

But also I feel like his time is done. Yeah. So I

Steve:

think it's right.

Leif:

Serena and Ben return to the empty Waldorf

Leif:

apartment and decide to take the relationship to

Leif:

the next level. Before we get the fade to black,

Leif:

the camera pulls out and we see Serena's phone

Leif:

vibrating with Vanessa on the caller id.

Steve:

Gross. It was just gross and awkward. Again, like,

Steve:

this entire season, whenever there is any kind of

Steve:

sexual encounter, especially once it hits a bed,

Steve:

everyone just seems to be, like, weird and like,

Steve:

weirdly either aggressive or no chemistry in any

Steve:

of it. It's just weird. Weird.

Leif:

Dan and Blair are, watching the Philadelphia

Leif:

Story. At the loft, they are laughing and eating

Leif:

pizza. And then we get a short time skip to see

Leif:

them curled up on the couch together. Blair

Leif:

finally getting some sleep as the episode ends.

Steve:

Fucking adorable.

Leif:

Great.

Steve:

Absolutely adorable. I loved them first just kind

Steve:

of very platonically snuggling on the couch. And

Steve:

you know, I've been calling for a romance here and

Steve:

this feels more edging towards that. But their

Steve:

friendship is also beautiful at this point. I love

Steve:

the friendship that they have developed too. And

Steve:

they were sitting. I, had a friend in high school

Steve:

that my mom used to call us kittens. There was no

Steve:

kind of romantic sexual anything. But she was one

Steve:

of my closest friends. And we would curl up and

Steve:

take naps on the couch all the time. And it really

Steve:

kind of threw me back to that of them just

Steve:

cuddling, very platonically, very safe and

Steve:

friendly. I thought it was adorable.

Leif:

Now, I forget, have you seen the Philadelphia

Leif:

Story before?

Steve:

I don't think so.

Leif:

So the scene they showed was between Katharine

Leif:

Hepburn and Jimmy Stewart. I mean, obviously Blair

Leif:

is the Katherine Hepburn and dad is Jimmy Stewart.

Leif:

Who's. Those two characters do make each other

Leif:

better people, but they don't end up together.

Steve:

That's really interesting.

Leif:

Chuck is very much the Cary Grant character. Who's

Leif:

the ex that everyone loves. He's fun, loving,

Leif:

likes to drink and party. But there's also a third

Leif:

suitor. Who's the current fiance? George, who's

Leif:

kind of boring. He's a teetotaler, literally. So

Leif:

who is going to be the George?

Steve:

Well, I mean, current cast. There's Nate, who is

Steve:

an option. You see this stuff with Regina

Steve:

happening. But he was always Blair's old standby.

Steve:

But I think it's more likely that something like

Steve:

the prince would, would come back in and be the,

Steve:

the third wheel, essentially. that one makes a lot

Steve:

of sense.

Leif:

And I will say that it's probably a good idea to

Leif:

watch the Philadelphia Story before season five,

Leif:

because the first half of the season is basically

Leif:

based on the movie.

Steve:

Oh, no kidding. Just like this one is When Harry.

Leif:

Met Sally, second half of this season.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah, that's interesting. Okay, cool. I'll

Steve:

have to watch that.

Leif:

And this is how Gossip Girl ends the episode. When

Leif:

you do finally get what you want, the problem is

Leif:

there's always someone who's trying to take it

Leif:

away. And all that wanting makes us blind to the

Leif:

fact that things aren't exactly what we think they

Leif:

are. Maybe it's better sometimes to just get what

Leif:

you need. Xo, xo, Gossip Girl.

Leif:

That is our episode. What is coming next?

Steve:

I think that things are going to take a turn with

Steve:

Dan and Blair. I feel like they have to any minute

Steve:

now. I've been saying it for weeks, but I feel

Steve:

like it's really kind of. This was episode 16. 16.

Leif:

I think there's 22 this year out of 22.

Steve:

So there's six episodes left. So I, I think

Steve:

that'll probably happen by the end of the season.

Steve:

But I feel like that that might be something that

Steve:

they want to really lean into next season. I think

Steve:

that we're going to see, Nate Reyna thing is going

Steve:

to happen, which also means a blow up between

Steve:

Chuck and Nate.

Leif:

again, again, another recycled plot line.

Steve:

Yep. And then also just this Russell stuff and now

Steve:

him having info on Lily. We're going to see how

Steve:

that plays out. I don't anticipate Lily doing any

Steve:

jail time or making any huge concessions, but he.

Steve:

She might Chuck. I don't know. She might Chuck

Steve:

over praising Steve.

Leif:

Let's get into segments.

Leif:

this week in Phantom, we traveled in the Wayback

Leif:

Machine to the Television without pity forums from

Leif:

2011. Hello there, Peabody here. And this is the

Leif:

Wayback Machine for traveling through time. And

Leif:

this is my boy, Sherman.

Steve:

Speak, Sherman. Hello.

Leif:

Goodbye. Overall impression? Most continue to be

Leif:

bored.

Steve:

Overall, I get it. I was less bored with this

Steve:

episode than I have been.

Leif:

I really like the Rufus and Lily stuff. I thought

Leif:

that they were being cute and funny and I like

Leif:

when they're just having fun and being parents.

Steve:

Yeah, I liked this episode a lot more than I've

Steve:

liked the most recent episodes.

Leif:

and ah, the Bass industry storyline seems to

Leif:

finally be going somewhere.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah.

Leif:

Dare continues to be the highlight of the show.

Leif:

Yes.

Steve:

Yes, 100%.

Leif:

They had a lot of hate for Blair's storyline of

Leif:

trying to speedrun just to get Chuck back. Like it

Leif:

seemed like they were surprised by her reveal when

Leif:

it was told right in the Saints and Sitters party

Leif:

what she was doing.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

So, yeah, I agree it's misogynistic story, but why

Leif:

are you just realizing that now?

Steve:

Yeah. But yeah, it's not like Gossip Girl to not

Steve:

have Blair do this. Like, this is very much. Yeah,

Steve:

I agree. It's very much in character.

Leif:

Nate and Rainer are cute.

Steve:

They are.

Leif:

Several people have mentioned they haven't watched

Leif:

the show in a while, but came back when they heard

Leif:

about Dare.

Steve:

Oh yeah.

Leif:

Vanessa coming back is lame.

Steve:

Very lame. I did not miss her. And when she. And

Steve:

she came in for such a. A nothing part. that she

Steve:

came in really essentially the whole thing was

Steve:

just so that she could witness. Yeah. Ben and Ben

Steve:

and Damien and why did it have to be Vanessa? Why

Steve:

couldn't anyone have. I don't know.

Leif:

Because they're still paying her.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

As a series regular.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

They kill off Chuck. Train is gaining steam.

Steve:

Wow. Really? They're they, there's some sort.

Leif:

Of people said they wish those muggers from last

Leif:

season had better aim.

Steve:

Yeah. I mean, I feel like they kind of missed the

Steve:

boat on killing Chuck right now.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

I don't think they can it. He's too intertwined in

Steve:

other stuff. I feel like they could have and kept

Steve:

a really good show. They would have killed him off

Steve:

at the end of season three.

Leif:

Yeah, I agree. Serena sucks. Yeah, pretty much.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Ben is creepy.

Steve:

Yep. Yep. Yeah.

Leif:

They also think Lily forgave Chuck too soon.

Steve:

Yeah, I just, I. I think that Lily is equipped to

Steve:

move on from things fast. She just does that all

Steve:

the time. So I think that she just includes Chuck

Steve:

in that. I think that if she had a soul, she might

Steve:

feel longer. But yeah.

Leif:

So a lot of people seem to think Dan already has

Leif:

romantic feelings for Blair. I totally disagree. I

Leif:

think he's still pining for Serena and ah, Blair

Leif:

is more of his Vanessa replacement.

Steve:

Yes. Yeah. You are 100% accurate that this is the

Steve:

friend and a friend that is.

Leif:

That challenges him.

Steve:

an equal who challenges him who will go to the

Steve:

movies and do the artsy movie festivals and will

Steve:

do. Yeah. She's a better Vanessa. Which we've also

Steve:

talked before about how she and Vanessa kind of

Steve:

occupy the same roles in other ways. Like that's

Steve:

why they were competing last year.

Leif:

It was a shame because they actually, in the books

Leif:

they had a, friendship run.

Steve:

Oh, Vanessa and Blair.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

Oh, interesting.

Leif:

That is it for this week in Phantom. let's go

Leif:

ahead and move into episode grades. You went first

Leif:

last week, so I'm going to go first this week.

Leif:

Yeah, I thought this was a much better episode.

Leif:

They brought in the big guns with, with Sarah

Leif:

Goodman and Norm Buckley and they, they definitely

Leif:

pulled this episode up from the previous ones. And

Leif:

I landed at a B plus.

Steve:

Yeah, I had the exact same thing that I thought

Steve:

some of the end was late. Some. You're not going

Steve:

to get me on board with Ben. I don't know if you

Steve:

can get to an A while Ben is on the show because

Steve:

his plot line is just inherently so disgusting.

Steve:

Outside of that, I feel like they really captured

Steve:

some classic Gossip Girl stuff with the exception

Steve:

of also not having everyone meet at the party at

Steve:

the end because Nate was there when Nate was

Steve:

there.

Leif:

Yeah, fate's irrelevant.

Steve:

All in all, I landed on a B as well. I thought

Steve:

this was the best episode we've had in a month.

Steve:

Yeah, we do this weekly, folks, so a month for us

Steve:

is an actual month.

Leif:

Moving over to Stockwatch. Going up, I had Dan

Leif:

because he was great friend all episode. Ben

Leif:

because he got what he wanted, I guess. So I. I

Leif:

gotta give him an up even though I don't like him

Leif:

still. Serena also, same thing. She got what she

Leif:

wanted. She was also a good brother to Eric.

Steve:

Sister to Eric.

Leif:

Yeah, that's right. Lily, because she finally

Leif:

admitted what she did wrong. She helped out Chuck

Leif:

and she had some fun with Rufus. I also gave Rufus

Leif:

up because he was inoffensive and was just having

Leif:

a good time. I will always give Rufus off when

Leif:

he's just having a good time.

Steve:

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Leif:

Chuck going up because he looks like he's turned

Leif:

the tables on Thorpe a bit. We'll see what happens

Leif:

with that when the affidavit news gets out. But

Leif:

at, the moment he's going up, I had Mr. Kid going

Leif:

up because he found out he was getting kind of

Leif:

screwed over a little bit.

Leif:

I had Nate going up because he looks like he's got

Leif:

to do a romance. And same for Reyna.

Steve:

Yeah. Yep.

Leif:

But that is it for going up.

Steve:

I originally. I actually had all of the same ups.

Steve:

I originally had Reina going down for blowing off

Steve:

her meeting, but I'm switching her to an up as

Steve:

well because she did have a great day and has some

Steve:

great.

Leif:

And she blew off my back of truck. So that's all

Leif:

to back up.

Steve:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And yeah, exactly. did you give

Steve:

Eric an up?

Leif:

I did not.

Steve:

I'm going to give Eric an up because he got off

Steve:

out from under Damien's thumb for now, seemingly,

Steve:

anyway. I'm trying to think of there. I felt like

Steve:

there was. I was on the fence with Russell because

Steve:

he got played. He also got information at the end.

Steve:

But I think I'm going to leave him either neutral

Steve:

or I might send him down. I. I'll let you know

Steve:

when it's my turn.

Leif:

So I actually had Eric and Damien being neutral

Leif:

because they kind of both started in the. The and

Leif:

the episode in the same spot. They were.

Steve:

That's fair. That's fair. yeah. And I definitely

Steve:

agree that Damian stayed neutral for me too.

Leif:

But going down, I had Russell because he lost out

Leif:

on the deal. Who knows what's going to come, how

Leif:

he's going to use the information he has. He might

Leif:

blow up in his face. Who knows? Vanessa, because

Leif:

she's just sucked.

Steve:

Yep. Yep.

Leif:

Blair going down because she lost her job. Yes.

Leif:

And the Minions going down because they were

Leif:

screwing up all episode.

Steve:

Yeah. I had all of the same. And I also want to.

Leif:

Including Russell.

Steve:

Yeah. Yes. Yeah, I am going to include Russell

Steve:

because I'm also going to include. Because he was

Steve:

mentioned Howie, because he is the perennial fuck

Steve:

up and that is part of why he was mentioned in

Steve:

his. And so I'm going to give Howie the down as

Steve:

well, and I believe that will be it. Yeah.

Steve:

But here's the best outfits from the last episode

Steve:

we see.

Leif:

Moving over to best outfit for me, I had Blair's

Leif:

Millie Collette tweed sheath dress with the black

Leif:

leggings that she had at the beginning of the

Leif:

episode.

Steve:

Oh, nice.

Leif:

Although I wasn't a huge fan of the silver jacket

Leif:

she was wearing over at that W. Right, right. Not.

Leif:

Not a big fan of, shoulder pads.

Steve:

No. Yeah, they just look, well, you know, you know

Steve:

how they look. Yeah, they just look weird. I'm

Steve:

giving it. I very rarely give it door, but I'm

Steve:

giving it to Serena. Had that, like, polka dot

Steve:

sort of thing happening underneath that like, sort

Steve:

of silver Shaw, I want to say. so I'm going to

Steve:

give it to Serena in this one for. For having a

Steve:

very tactful dress for her brother's party.

Leif:

That is it for segments.

Leif:

Do you have anything you want to plug this week?

Steve:

I don't think that this is going to come out

Steve:

before my next gig. So as of right now, it's just.

Steve:

Check out my TikTok. Steve Marchon. M A R C H I O

Steve:

N. that's my TikTok. That's my Instagram. Go ahead

Steve:

and find me there and keep in touch with what I do

Steve:

have coming up.

Leif:

And so to this week, this past week of recording

Leif:

this, Carrie Tagawa, the actor passed away. So I'm

Leif:

going to go ahead and recommend the 1995 Mortal

Leif:

Kombat movie. Also fitting that it is the 30th

Leif:

anniversary.

Steve:

Yeah, yeah.

Leif:

But, he was also. So. He played Shang Tsung.

Steve:

okay.

Leif:

Even if you haven't seen that movie, I'm sure

Leif:

you've seen your Son is mine.

Steve:

Yes. Yeah, I've seen. I've seen the important

Steve:

clips, but I think it's.

Leif:

It's actually a pretty decent movie for, you know,

Leif:

the time it's definitely the best the video game

Leif:

movies of that era.

Steve:

Okay. Okay.

Leif:

It's, it's super campy.

Steve:

Yeah. And I don't know if I have seen parts of it

Steve:

or if I've seen it. Really inebriated, I believe,

Steve:

maybe a little combination of the two.

Leif:

But, yeah, I mean, Carrie Taga was definitely a

Leif:

highlight of it. He nailed the role. And

Leif:

apparently he's a really nice guy. I heard a story

Leif:

this week about how he agreed to star in some

Leif:

guy's student film.

Steve:

Oh, nice.

Leif:

But he's also been in stuff like, he was in man in

Leif:

the High Castle. he was in Revenge with Conor

Leif:

Apollo for eight episodes. he's also in the movie

Leif:

Johnny Tsunami.

Steve:

Okay.

Leif:

Disney Channel movie about surfing.

Steve:

Okay. Okay. I've heard of it. I think. Was that

Steve:

from like the 99? Early. Okay. Late 90s. Okay.

Leif:

But that is it for my plugs. But if you want to

Leif:

follow me on social media, you can find me on

Leif:

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Leif:

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Leif:

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Leif:

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Leif:

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Leif:

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Leif:

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Steve:

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Steve:

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Steve:

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Steve:

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Steve:

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Steve:

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Steve:

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water.

Leif:

Cooler talk and we will be back next week to Talk

Leif:

about Season 4 Episode 17, Empire of the Sun. The

Leif:

episode description reads, ben's mother comes to

Leif:

town forcing issues to the service between Ben and

Leif:

Serena.

Steve:

Oh Jesus, good. Can they force the issue of this

Steve:

is really fucking weird and you shouldn't be

Steve:

dating the person who sent you to jail. Well, the

Steve:

person who sent you to jail's daughter who sent

Steve:

you to jail for dating this person, even though

Steve:

you weren't really dating her, but you kind of

Steve:

were just not calling it that Grooming. You were.

Steve:

Sorry. Sorry. You groomed my daughter?

Leif:

Until, Next time. You know you love us.

Steve:

XOXO Every time you walk away run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there Every time you walk

Steve:

away or run away you take a piece of m me with you

Steve:

there every time you walk away or run away you

Steve:

take a piece of m me with you there oh it seems

Steve:

I'm walking right to your door my heart's still

Steve:

resting looking for something more Are you ever

Steve:

gonna see everything you mean to me I'm trying

Steve:

really hard to believe every time you walk away or

Steve:

run away you take a piece of me with you there

Steve:

Every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there every time you walk

Steve:

away or run away you take a piece of me with you

Steve:

there never feels right when I'm out here on my

Steve:

own I left last night and it feels like way too

Steve:

long are you ever gonna see everything you mean to

Steve:

me I'm trying really hard to believe every time

Steve:

you walk away run away you take a piece of meat

Steve:

with you there every time you walk away or run

Steve:

away you take a piece of m me with you there Every

Steve:

time you walk away or run away you take a piece of

Steve:

me with you you there come back to me smile and

Steve:

you'll make my life complete every time you walk

Steve:

away or run away you take a piece of me with you

Steve:

there Every time you walk away or run away you

Steve:

take a piece of me with you you there Every time

Steve:

you walk away or run away you take a piece of me

Steve:

with you there Every time you walk away or run

Steve:

away take a piece of me with you there Every time

Steve:

you walk away or run away you take a piece of me

Steve:

with you there every time you walk away or run

Steve:

away you take a piece of me you with you there

Steve:

Every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there every time you walk

Steve:

away or run away you take a piece of me with you

Steve:

there.

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