Episode 11

S3E11 - "The Treasure of Serena Madre"

Hey there, Gossip Girl fans! Buckle up because this week on the Non Judging Breakfast Pod, Leif and Steve are diving headfirst into the drama of Gossip Girl Season 3, Episode 11, "The Treasure of Serena Madre." With Thanksgiving just around the corner, it’s a recipe for chaos as secrets bubble up and relationships teeter on the edge of disaster. Join our dynamic duo as they navigate a holiday gathering that’s anything but ordinary, featuring surprise guests, jaw-dropping confrontations, and, of course, the ever-watchful eye of Gossip Girl lurking in the background.

As the Van der Woodsen clan gears up for their first Thanksgiving together, tensions are hotter than a turkey fresh out of the oven! Serena finds herself in a love triangle hotter than the gravy, caught between the charming Trip and the fiery Maureen. Meanwhile, Blair and Eleanor are putting their mother-daughter bond to the ultimate test, and Vanessa, the ambitious overachiever, is right in the thick of the drama—because what’s Thanksgiving without a little family feud, am I right?

Expect a mix of hilarious moments, heartfelt apologies, and a deep dive into the tangled web of love and loyalty that makes Gossip Girl so addictive. Just when you think you’ve got it all figured out, a surprise twist will have you questioning everything you thought you knew! So grab your cranberry sauce, plop down on the couch, and get ready for another deliciously dramatic episode that will leave you hungry for more scandalous Gossip Girl gossip!

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Steve:

They've established he's 26.

Leif:

I. Mhm. Also that they've known

Leif:

each other forever.

Steve:

Yeah. Which means that once. Oh my God,

Steve:

it's the camp counselor all over again.

Steve:

Like oh my God.

Steve:

Yeah. Because she's. They have established that. So

Steve:

like she was like he was 16 and she was fucking

Steve:

8 years old.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

And you all you disgusting fucking

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creeps.

Leif:

So bad.

Steve:

Oh, uh, yeah. It's Marius

Steve:

and Cosette from Les Miserables, you

Steve:

creep.

Leif:

Hey, up residers and all you scandal loving listeners out

Leif:

there, you just tuned into the non judging breakfast pod

Leif:

where the coffee is strong, the waffles are fresh,

Leif:

and the gossip is hotter than ever. M. My

Leif:

name is Leif and I'm your seasoned Gossip Girl veteran.

Steve:

And I'm Steve, the newbie, the greenhorn,

Steve:

the. I don't know, Leif. We're in season three. What am

Steve:

I now?

Leif:

I don't know. But by the way, how do you find having a sibling,

Leif:

someone whose sole purpose on earth is to compete for your parents

Leif:

love and attention?

Steve:

Come on, Leaf. You know my dad doesn't love me.

Steve:

So here's the deal folks. Leaf has been

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watching Gossip Girl since it first aired and I'm tuning in

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for the very first time. And together we are your

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dynamic duo, uh, bringing you all the drama,

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romance, and sometimes questionable fashion

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choices of this iconic 2007 series.

Leif:

Bring your magnifying glasses because each week we're

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dissecting every juicy detail of the show one

Leif:

episode at a time. We'll connect the dots,

Leif:

uncover those sneaky little Easter eggs, and of

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course serve up some piping hot behind the scenes tea.

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And expect some iconic moments from fandom too,

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because what's a deep dive without a little drama?

Steve:

And since we're all about inclusivity here at the non

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judging breakfast pod, there is always room for

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you at the non judging breakfast table. So go

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ahead and grab some cranberry sauce or maybe

Steve:

some pumpkin pie and let's get into this thing.

Leif:

We are well into May here. Memorial Day is

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right around the corner and

Leif:

we're gonna be talking some Gossip Girl.

Steve:

Yeah. Is there some yak life planned?

Steve:

Are you guys, uh.

Leif:

Uh, there is, but I am not going this year.

Steve:

Oh, all right. Yeah, fair enough.

Steve:

I'm also super excited that I just finished a

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second DND campaign with our game

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group.

Leif:

So congratulations.

Steve:

Thank you. That was fun. 1 uh through 20

Steve:

mod, so. Well, it was 1 through 17.

Steve:

Yeah, it was an adventure path and I. It was 1

Steve:

through 17, but I boosted them to 20 and made a better

Steve:

ending than what they had in the book, Bazango.

Leif:

All right, now that that's out of the way, we are here to talk

Leif:

about season three, episode 11,

Leif:

the Treasure of Serena Madre.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Original air date November 30,

Leif:

2009 Thanksgiving episode

Leif:

yeah, so we talked about, uh, last week we

Leif:

actually watched a little bit of the movie that it's based on.

Leif:

I was not a fan. Did you like it at all?

Steve:

I couldn't get into it. I was. I

Steve:

also came into it kind of late. I did.

Leif:

You only missed, like, five minutes.

Steve:

Oh, okay. Yeah. I didn't know how much I missed of it.

Steve:

I did love, uh, the

Steve:

choreography of the fight scene

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in the very beginning. It's so

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bad. And, you know, it's one of those.

Steve:

At the time, watching it in the

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theater for the first time, it was probably.

Steve:

People were probably clutching their pearls.

Leif:

But of course, as we're. We are

Leif:

talking about the Treas of Sierra Madre, the

Leif:

1948 film directed by John Houston.

Leif:

It's a classic adventure film. Two rough and tumble

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wanderers, Dobbs, played by Humphrey Boger, and

Leif:

Curtin, played by Tim Holt, meet up with a

Leif:

veteran prospector named Howard, played by

Leif:

Walter Huston. In Mexico.

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They head to the Sierra Madre mountains to find gold,

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although they discovered treasure. And they also find

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plenty of trouble. Not only ruthless bandits

Leif:

lurking in the dangerous Mexican wilderness, but from their

Leif:

own insecurities and greed, which

Leif:

threatened to bring conflict at any moment.

Steve:

Yeah. Is Bogart a good actor

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or is he a famous

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actor? I haven't seen a lot of his work,

Steve:

but I didn't feel like what I saw last week was a

Steve:

huge stretch.

Leif:

I mean, acting was just different then.

Steve:

It was. Well, because it was and still is

Steve:

about star power.

Leif:

I mean, he was the star of Casablanca.

Steve:

Right, Right. Which is the only thing I

Steve:

really know him from. I believe I've seen

Steve:

something else that he was in the. Was he

Steve:

Maltese Falcon? I may have seen.

Leif:

Yeah, I believe he is also in that.

Steve:

Yeah. But, yeah, I don't really know

Steve:

him to be a phenomenal actor.

Steve:

But you're right. Um, for one, we also

Steve:

talked about watching this, that it was still in that

Steve:

phase where they weren't used to having a camera,

Steve:

that they did so much stage

Steve:

combat and stage acting for

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the camera.

Leif:

So it's not so much that

Leif:

this is kind of still in the transitionary

Leif:

period when they went from silent

Leif:

films to actually having

Leif:

dialogue.

Steve:

So you needed bigger acting.

Leif:

Well, no, not just.

Steve:

They.

Leif:

They just forgot how to act because now they can

Leif:

just talk.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

So like acting kind of like, took a step back,

Leif:

they could just talk and it's still sell it

Leif:

100 times better than they could have with us.

Steve:

You know, with just the. With just the caption that would show

Steve:

up. And it's funny because you think about

Steve:

the. You think about those actors who

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probably lost their jobs because when they

Steve:

actually spoke, they sounded

Steve:

ridiculous.

Leif:

A lot of them were. Yeah, a lot of them were farts. They had probably, you

Leif:

know, bad accents and stuff.

Steve:

Yeah, yeah. I'm just thinking right now the

Steve:

Phillies new left fielder, Max Kepler, who all the

Steve:

ladies are just swooning over.

Steve:

But when you hear him talk, he's. He

Steve:

sounds like a 15 year old.

Leif:

This episode was written by a combination

Leif:

of Robert hall and Joshua

Leif:

Safran. Uh, Robert Hall's last

Leif:

episode was 303 the Lost Boy.

Leif:

And Joshua Safran last wrote, uh,

Leif:

301 Reversals of Fortune.

Steve:

Yeah. And both long time writers on

Steve:

this show work both, uh,

Steve:

and kudos on this episode.

Steve:

I really liked the writing.

Leif:

Directed by Mark Pisnarski, who's busy this

Leif:

season. This is his third episode of the season. He also

Leif:

did Dan de Floret and The Grandfather Part

Leif:

2 Just a Couple episodes ago. Yeah, why

Leif:

don't you go ahead and give us that Vulture recap?

Steve:

Having just watched the ubiquitous holiday movie

Steve:

Love actually on our own Thanksgiving,

Steve:

your daily intel editors were under the

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impression that Christmas was the holiday on which people

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told the truth about how they really felt.

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But trust that eager young minx Gossip

Steve:

Girl to get a jump on things.

Steve:

In last night's episode, feelings spilled forth

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from our cast of characters, like stuffing falling

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from a turkey, all soft and mushy

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and quite possibly full of bacteria.

Steve:

As usual, circumstances conspired to throw

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everyone together. And while distracting

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autotune played in the background, several

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key mother daughter pairs uneasily

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bonded. While Vanessa and her mother had a

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real heart to heart, Blair and Eleanor and

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Lily and Cece each came to waspy

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understandings of each other. Meanwhile,

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on the romantic front doorman Vanya

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pursued the love of Dorota across

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various digital platforms.

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Dan's love for Vanessa manifested in the form

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of a new facial expression, one that managed

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to impart equal parts longing

Steve:

and the sense that he had just sharted.

Steve:

And both Nate and Trip Vanderbilt summoned all

Steve:

the passion of the Manchurian Candidate

Steve:

while declaring their feelings for Serena.

Leif:

Uh, yes, holidays

Leif:

on the Upper east side.

Steve:

My first read through, I actually laughed out loud at the sharded

Steve:

thing. Not because they're making

Steve:

a poop joke. Specifically but the

Steve:

accuracy of that poop joke,

Steve:

that look on his face.

Leif:

Yeah, that was definitely the worst part of this episode.

Steve:

Yeah, Dan, look like you love Vanessa.

Steve:

Pen, act like you love her.

Leif:

Do I have to?

Steve:

It's Vanessa.

Leif:

She's horrible.

Steve:

Are we sure this is where we're going with this?

Leif:

Go ahead and get into it. Act one begins,

Leif:

as always, with a Gossip Girl monologue.

Leif:

Thanksgiving began when the pilgrims and

Leif:

Indians came together to share the bountiful

Leif:

harvest on the Upper east side. That

Leif:

tradition is upheld with a bountiful

Leif:

harvest of, uh, secrets, lies, and scandals.

Leif:

The Vanderhumps are strategizing their first

Leif:

united Thanksgiving. Serena will be working

Leif:

with Trip and thus be absent. And even Scott gets

Leif:

a name drop.

Steve:

Yeah. Uh, I was really excited for a

Steve:

Thanksgiving episode,

Steve:

Eric, right off the bat with the.

Steve:

We don't really have any traditions. Serena's not going to be

Steve:

joining us. Oh, I stand corrected.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

And also a, uh, CC you can unplug.

Steve:

Yeah. Really great whips. Right

Steve:

from the start of this episode.

Leif:

Jenny and Eric step aside to set up a

Leif:

video chat with Cece, and Jenny finally learns about

Leif:

Eric's breakup. However, Eric is still not

Leif:

forthcoming with the reason. Jenny tries to play

Leif:

matchmaker and text Jonathan waving the white

Leif:

flag.

Steve:

Yeah, Jenny.

Leif:

Jenny was being nice this episode.

Steve:

Yeah, Jenny was being nice.

Leif:

She was trying to play. She was trying to make peace.

Steve:

Yeah. And it's funny because I feel like had, uh,

Steve:

Eric come clean earlier, that

Steve:

she would have gotten over it earlier, that she would have gotten

Steve:

over it quicker. Jenny recognizes game.

Leif:

Well, even now, she said, just apologize, and we can be

Leif:

friends, though.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah.

Steve:

Jenny recognizes game.

Leif:

Yeah. Trip informs Serena that

Leif:

he asked Maureen for a divorce, and it definitely

Leif:

wasn't because of Serena. Serena tells him that

Leif:

they can't do anything until after the divorce, but then

Leif:

invites him to.

Steve:

Out.

Leif:

Uh, to her hotel room for all Thanksgiving.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah, that.

Leif:

Of course.

Steve:

That makes so much sense.

Leif:

We can't do anything, but let's just hang alone in a hotel all

Leif:

day.

Steve:

All day. Just the two of us alone.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

Cuz, you know, and in a hotel room. Yeah, we. We are

Steve:

in a room at your office, and we are

Steve:

doing everything we possibly can to not

Steve:

bang right here.

Steve:

And you. Uh, yeah. But instead, we'll just hang out of my house.

Leif:

Oh, Serena, bless your heart.

Steve:

I was thinking of this on the way over. How

Steve:

more and more, I'm recognizing how

Steve:

tragic of a character Serena is

Steve:

more than any of the others. Like, she

Steve:

really is a sad

Steve:

character. And I. I never

Steve:

really put together the older Men and

Steve:

the daddy issues.

Leif:

Well, they're definitely shining a light on it this

Leif:

season.

Steve:

Yes, very much.

Leif:

That has definitely been a central theme of this season for Serena.

Steve:

Yeah. And. And

Steve:

it's funny because it seems like.

Leif:

It'S coming to a head.

Steve:

It does. Well, yes. Especially now getting the

Steve:

letter and. Which we'll get to, of course.

Steve:

But I just really. As I was saying, I

Steve:

don't think I ever really put together her

Steve:

constant attraction to these older men, to

Steve:

these daddy issues that she

Steve:

has, as well as her

Steve:

mom, who never really. Who only

Steve:

shows her any appreciation if she's doing what her mom

Steve:

wants her to do. So she doesn't have any

Steve:

validation to. For much of anything other than

Steve:

the way she looks from anybody.

Leif:

Even Dan, even though they're the same age.

Leif:

He's someone that's accepting of her,

Leif:

wants to take care of her.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

And give her and nurture her and.

Steve:

Yeah. Uh, yeah.

Leif:

It's the same. Yeah. It's all tied back into her dad.

Steve:

It really is. And I wouldn't just say her

Steve:

dad. I mean, it's her parents. That. The

Steve:

way Lily treats her as well. It's just.

Steve:

I mean, we were talking about.

Leif:

Sorry. Got a little something there.

Steve:

But, yeah, we were talking about Casey

Steve:

and being like the Dread Pirate Roberts firing

Steve:

people. And it's the same thing with Lillian kicking

Steve:

Serena out of the house. Good job,

Steve:

Serena. I'll see you in the morning. I'll probably

Steve:

kick you out in the morning. Serena does the smallest thing,

Steve:

and it's like, well, you're out now. Oh, there's. You

Steve:

didn't put the cereal away out of my house. When you

Steve:

learn how to put cereal away properly, you can come back here.

Leif:

Well, so technically, she was already not living there. She was living

Leif:

at a hotel. Now she's no longer even welcome.

Steve:

Yeah. Now she can't even go there. Uh, and also, it was

Steve:

the first. And I know we aren't here yet, but the first episode that

Steve:

I realized she doesn't have a room

Steve:

anymore, that they gave up her room,

Steve:

which that is just. I realized

Steve:

that Jenny moved in and needed a place. But

Steve:

to give her her room. That's

Steve:

insane to me. Of course, part of

Steve:

that is me as a dad. When Bailey moved in with us full

Steve:

time, it was still like, that is you and Jake's room,

Steve:

because that is always going to be Jake's room, too. And that is

Steve:

always going to be your room,

Steve:

no matter where you are, where you live.

Steve:

And I feel like there's a time when they're adults that yeah, we could

Steve:

turn those rooms into something else, but 18 and

Steve:

just get the fuck out so Jenny can move in.

Leif:

Yes. Uh, a slight defense to

Leif:

Lily in this situation, because we're going to rip on her pretty

Leif:

hard later this whole episode.

Leif:

In her defense in this. This case, she does.

Leif:

It's established. Because she redecorates constantly.

Steve:

Yes, I do know that. But redecorating

Steve:

is one thing. Removing her daughter's space

Steve:

is. Even though she was expected to go to Brown.

Steve:

Why wouldn't you still have a place for your kid to

Steve:

be, even if they're at school? And I get.

Steve:

Also they have the money that she can stay

Steve:

anywhere. She's staying at Chuck's, right? At the hotel?

Leif:

Yes.

Steve:

Yeah. So, like, she can stay fucking anywhere.

Steve:

It's just I really

Steve:

recognized how tragic Serena's life

Steve:

actually is. Despite being this probably

Steve:

billionaire, she has a tragic life.

Leif:

Yeah. Chuck and Blair are leaving the Empire

Leif:

and talking about. Not talking about Serena.

Leif:

Blair is currently much more focused on the imminent

Leif:

return of Eleanor.

Steve:

Yeah, I've got bigger adversaries to face.

Steve:

I do love Eleanor's return.

Steve:

Fantastic to see her.

Leif:

Shame she couldn't bring Cyrus.

Steve:

Yeah, I was bummed that she couldn't bring Cyrus. I was

Steve:

also a little bummed that Harold didn't come

Steve:

too, because of how much Blair loves

Steve:

Thanksgiving. This was a crowded

Steve:

episode and it was a mother daughter episode.

Steve:

But I know how much that means to Blair.

Steve:

Also wanted to. When Serena

Steve:

came up and Blair's like, I didn't realize the Empire had

Steve:

hourly rates. So

Steve:

fucking rude.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

I do love that Blair recognizes not being a good

Steve:

friend too, but we'll get there.

Leif:

And yeah, she was rude there at the beginning of her thing, but what she was

Leif:

saying about Tripp was definitely facts.

Steve:

Spot on. 100%.

Steve:

Everything everyone says to her the next.

Leif:

You know, six months, she's, you know, he's going to find another

Leif:

blind coincidence.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah. And

Steve:

that's generous.

Steve:

What, are they going on hiatus? Because I feel like this is

Steve:

three episode art.

Leif:

Chuck and Blair then bump into Serena on

Leif:

sidewalk and who is looking for Nate. But Blair gives

Leif:

Serena for messing around with Tripp and rightfully

Leif:

calls him out for being a creeper.

Steve:

Yep, 100. Blair, you were

Steve:

dead on about what you said about trip.

Leif:

Nate and Dan are chatting on the phone and Dan is

Leif:

explaining the breakup and how everything went down. Nate

Leif:

just says, dear, uh, Penthouse.

Steve:

I also, once again, we have Chase Crawford being

Steve:

funny, telling jokes. If this isn't your

Steve:

next. If this isn't your next article in the New Yorker.

Steve:

I'm going to submit it to someone to another magazine.

Steve:

Yeah, it was fantastic. I love

Steve:

the camaraderie.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

And I love that they're back to full swing friends.

Steve:

Nate and Chuck are full swing best friends again. I really

Steve:

love all that.

Leif:

Oh, we gotta get them all three together somehow.

Steve:

Yeah, I'm hoping for that, actually.

Leif:

As the boys hang up, Serena shows up at Nate's and

Leif:

Vanessa shows up at the loft. Serena wants to take a walk,

Leif:

and Vanessa is looking for a place to stay for

Leif:

the weekend. Dan is immediately awkward, but

Leif:

agrees to let her stay.

Steve:

Yeah, this is the first. What's with the face?

Steve:

With the Penn Love face.

Leif:

Now, did your college have to. Did you have to,

Leif:

like, submit special form to stay over Thanksgiving?

Steve:

Yeah. Um, not Thanksgiving. Christmas,

Steve:

yes, but not Thanksgiving. Oh, no.

Steve:

Yeah. We had to be out for Thanksgiving.

Steve:

Yeah. In fact, Jake. Jake had to leave at a certain

Steve:

time and wasn't allowed back in, I.

Leif:

Guess, since Hawaii was an island.

Steve:

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Leif:

Good percentage of the population.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Staying for break.

Steve:

Yeah. They wouldn't be flying out, flying home

Steve:

like that. But yeah, my. My college, definitely.

Steve:

And I and Jake also had to be

Steve:

out. Yes, they do allow

Steve:

special circumstances, but only if

Steve:

you live in California or you have special.

Steve:

Extraordinary.

Leif:

Is that because, like, the cafeteria is closed and there's no. They don't have any

Leif:

way to cook food or something.

Steve:

They shut the whole. The whole building down pretty

Steve:

much. So they don't heat the building. They don't.

Steve:

Yeah, they. Or at least they cut everything down to the bare

Steve:

minimum. And. And because the RAs can't be

Steve:

expected to be there.

Leif:

That's. The dwarves. And Hawaii had

Leif:

zero H vac. Really

Leif:

never got below, like, 70 degrees.

Steve:

Yeah. But it would get hot, though.

Leif:

We all had fans.

Steve:

Yeah. I would figure they'd have AC at least, but

Steve:

no, because, you know, because you have fans. You just open the

Steve:

windows. Everything just.

Leif:

So, uh, the first month and a half of school, so, like,

Leif:

August and September, it's. It was pretty hot in

Leif:

Honolulu. It was like, high 80s.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah.

Leif:

But then once it got down and then once you got past, like,

Leif:

September, it was basically between

Leif:

65 and 75, all.

Steve:

Oh, nice. That's beautiful.

Steve:

That's beautiful. But yeah, I think a big part of it was

Steve:

also that the RAs couldn't be there,

Steve:

too. And so there was probably some

Steve:

legal work that goes into that too.

Leif:

Rufus and Eric are video chatting with Cece. She

Leif:

hides her surprise at Lily, saying she wasn't healthy enough to

Leif:

travel and says she will be there in Person. Uh.

Leif:

Oh, Lily, you got some splaining

Leif:

tutu.

Steve:

The look on Eric's face. The look of,

Steve:

oh my God, what have we done on Eric's

Steve:

face was amazing.

Steve:

Do we know where Cece lives?

Leif:

I think California.

Steve:

And she just flew in in time for

Steve:

Thanksgiving.

Leif:

Probably has her own private jet.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Or yeah, really has a friend.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah, Exactly. Excuse me,

Steve:

Mr. Bezos, can I borrow your jet? Probably

Steve:

more like Warren Buffett. Probably. Excuse me, Mr.

Steve:

Buffett, can I borrow your jet?

Leif:

At the Waldorfs, Dorota is ignoring texts, calls, and

Leif:

tweets from Vanya. For some reason. Blair finds

Leif:

an envelope from Eleanor's estate attorney, but

Leif:

Eleanor pushes her off to the kitchen for tea.

Steve:

Nice to see Eleanor finally getting Eleanor

Steve:

back. I forgot how much I

Steve:

enjoy Margaret Collins.

Steve:

Margot.

Leif:

Margaret.

Steve:

Margaret Collins work.

Leif:

She's a big part of all the Thanksgiving, uh,

Leif:

episodes.

Steve:

Yes. Yeah. And brings

Steve:

just such a great presence

Steve:

and has such a great relationship with

Steve:

Blair on screen. So I just. I'm always excited

Steve:

for her to be in stuff like this.

Leif:

And so the name of the estate attorney,

Leif:

Lionel Trippy, was a shout out to the west

Leif:

Wing. Uh, he was the White House.

Steve:

The White House counsel. Yes.

Steve:

Yeah, I remember that now that you mention it.

Leif:

Nate and Serena are talking in the park. Serena

Leif:

admits to one kiss, but that it was a mistake.

Leif:

Serena gets a call from Trip, who cancels on

Leif:

their plans because Maureen is suspicious.

Leif:

Serena invites Nate to Thanksgiving at her mom's place.

Steve:

So again, right now I'm supposed to believe that

Steve:

Serena, at the end of the last episode,

Steve:

left with Trip, went to. I forget if it

Steve:

was his office or her home, but

Steve:

they went someplace private and started making out.

Steve:

And they want me to believe that was it.

Steve:

That it was that one kiss. Then she was like, okay, well,

Steve:

goodbye. Even though I was just out with my friend and

Steve:

I'm clearly out for the night.

Leif:

That's what they're saying.

Steve:

Mm. Mhm. I don't believe it.

Leif:

I don't think they had sex.

Steve:

No, but I'm. But I'm sure some hand stuff took place.

Leif:

Possibly. Lily and Maureen bump

Leif:

into each other on the street wearing the same coat. Lily

Leif:

lets slip that Serena's lie about working

Leif:

with Trip in the soup kitchen. Lily invites

Leif:

Maureen and Trip to Thanksgiving, so Serena is forced

Leif:

to spend some family time. Gossip Girl

Leif:

brings us to the first commercial with this singer.

Leif:

Uh, uh. Oh, uh. Looks like someone's small

Leif:

Thanksgiving might just have a big problem.

Leif:

May the Lord make us truly thankful for what we

Leif:

are about to receive.

Steve:

So this is our first Commercial break. This Lily

Steve:

scene where she drops the tea without knowing she's

Steve:

spilling tea. You know, she just lays it

Steve:

on. You get these two coats. It's like, oh, great way

Steve:

to talk to each other. Which is a great setup

Steve:

for later. And

Steve:

Lily just so innocently, hey, I

Steve:

want to see my daughter on Thanksgiving. Can

Steve:

you and Trip come to Thanksgiving so that you can make sure

Steve:

Serena's there? And Maureen just

Steve:

getting this and processing this

Steve:

info. Also, just this for

Steve:

up until this first commercial break. This was such

Steve:

a packed act one.

Leif:

You know, I love seeds.

Steve:

Yeah. Really good. Really witty. Really,

Steve:

really quick. And just the pacing. Boom,

Steve:

boom, boom. It just doesn't. It

Steve:

didn't stop. And I really liked how it

Steve:

paste that first break.

Leif:

We're starting to get. Get an idea of the guest list.

Steve:

Yes. Yeah. And the fact that the guest

Steve:

list is going to keep growing and

Steve:

there's.

Leif:

Going to be some conflicts.

Steve:

Yes.

Leif:

Obvious conflicts. Act two

Leif:

begins. Dan and Vanessa are making pie at

Leif:

the loft. Vanessa is ranting about her mom

Leif:

and then comforts Dan on his breakup.

Leif:

Dan, with an assist from Olivia, has gaslit

Leif:

himself to think that he is in love with Vanessa.

Leif:

However, Dan is saved by the doorbell as Gabrielle

Leif:

is back in town on Dan's invitation.

Leif:

Looks like the Abrams are coming to Thanksgiving as well.

Steve:

So first of all, Dan, stop being gross.

Steve:

Just stop. Just let it go, Dan. Let

Steve:

it go. Let it go. Fall back in love with Serena or something.

Steve:

Just let it go.

Leif:

Or the Amalia girl. She's. She seemed.

Steve:

Or Amalia. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.

Leif:

Or down.

Steve:

Uh, I know who you're talking about.

Leif:

The writer girl.

Steve:

Yeah, go for her. Yeah, go for

Steve:

anyone. Anyone else, please,

Steve:

Anybody. Also, this was

Steve:

when I was like, holy. They got

Steve:

everyone. Wait, did she

Steve:

walk in? I don't think.

Leif:

Yes. Who?

Steve:

Gabriella? Yeah, when

Steve:

she walked in, and I was like, they got

Steve:

everyone for this. I was so

Steve:

excited. And because all the moms are there.

Steve:

All the moms are there. All of them, including

Steve:

Cece. It's such a packed

Steve:

episode that also is all

Steve:

throughout laying the groundwork that everyone's together

Steve:

in the end, which is what we've always said is our A

Steve:

episode.

Leif:

Yeah. Trip is stalking Serena

Leif:

at her hotel. He informs her that he and his wife are

Leif:

coming to the Thanksgiving tomorrow. Serena says

Leif:

Trip can't come to a room, but then stops the elevator and

Leif:

starts making out with him. Serena.

Steve:

Serena.

Leif:

Mixed signals.

Steve:

And.

Steve:

And. And Trip, you are so

Steve:

creepy. Like, yeah, I'm stalking you.

Steve:

That's not funny. It's not funny.

Steve:

Congressman elect. I don't even think he's

Steve:

sworn in yet, Congressman elect. That's not

Steve:

funny to say. You're stalking a teenager, and

Steve:

they're all like, oh, at least we get to spend time together

Steve:

with your wife and their families.

Steve:

And then when he's like, just. Just one last time.

Steve:

Why is it one last time? If you're gonna leave your wife, why

Steve:

can't Serena go to Washington with you? I mean, if you. If

Steve:

Serena's the one for you. If Serena's who you

Steve:

want to be with, why is it one last time?

Steve:

Why can't she go with you to Washington?

Leif:

Serena. He's finding worse partner.

Steve:

Yeah. Um.

Leif:

Somehow, I know.

Steve:

Somehow, um, she's gonna end up with Christian Bale

Steve:

from American Psych.

Leif:

I think that Aaron kind of already was that with this murder room.

Steve:

Okay, fair.

Leif:

Uh, still think Serena's lucky she got out of that relationship

Leif:

alive and with.

Steve:

All of her toes.

Leif:

Blair's trying to figure out what's in the big envelope.

Leif:

Blair guilt trips her mom into staying for Thanksgiving.

Leif:

Also, it's good to know Dorota will get in on the action, too, because

Leif:

she's working the party for time and a half.

Leif:

Blair threatens calling the INS On Dorota

Leif:

to get her to hand over Eleanor's bag, which contains

Leif:

a pregnancy test.

Steve:

Uh, Dorota, you are a

Steve:

fucking champion. The way she's like, uh,

Steve:

I'll be working there Thanksgiving because

Steve:

Ms. Lily offered me time and a half

Steve:

with the direct look and

Steve:

Eleanor's eye roll that went along with it.

Steve:

It was just such a great little bit.

Steve:

And, of course, the first time through. Not

Steve:

the first time watching and with the pregnancy

Steve:

test, and it's like, that's a weird thing for

Steve:

Dorota to pick up for Eleanor.

Leif:

Yeah. Well, yeah.

Steve:

I. I'm. I'm. Yeah. Not making assumptions,

Steve:

but I think Eleanor.

Leif:

Is someone who would have a Dorota go pick that

Leif:

up for her.

Steve:

No, no, I do think so. I just also

Steve:

don't see. I do not believe

Steve:

her to want any more kids.

Leif:

Well, as, uh, Blair points out, I think it's a little

Leif:

too late.

Steve:

Yeah. And that, too. And. Yeah,

Steve:

that she closed her shop a long time ago.

Leif:

I think she mentioned something about a miracle.

Leif:

Chuck tells Nate that his security caught Serena making

Leif:

out with Trip in the, uh, elevator. Both,

Leif:

uh, Chuck and Nate seem concerned with saving Serena

Leif:

from making a mistake, but only Nate seems determined to

Leif:

actually do something about it.

Steve:

I like that Chuck did the. You know. Chuck finds

Steve:

out, goes to Nate, lets Nate know.

Steve:

I like the whole conversation, too. Like, Your

Steve:

cousin's gonna be a piece of shit to her. And, like,

Steve:

someone needs to get through to her. And Chuck's point, though,

Steve:

whoever's gonna go to her has to bring a sledgehammer because this is

Steve:

Serena. And the. The more you tell

Steve:

her she shouldn't do something, the more guaranteed she is

Steve:

going to do the thing she shouldn't do.

Leif:

Got some rocks in her heads.

Steve:

Yes. Yeah.

Leif:

Concrete and Act

Leif:

3. Let the festivities

Leif:

begin. Lily is shocked and less than thrilled that

Leif:

CeCe is there. Dan, Vanessa and Gabriella

Leif:

also arrive. CeCe lets Lily know that

Leif:

the serious discussion is needed between them and

Leif:

also between Lily and Rufus.

Steve:

Yeah, cece instantly has shit to stir when

Steve:

she comes in. Uh, as. As to

Steve:

be expected. I mean, cece's entire

Steve:

job is to stir on this show.

Steve:

And again, she's

Steve:

not wrong. Season one, she was an

Steve:

asshole. Season two,

Steve:

she was right, but did it the wrong

Steve:

way. And at this point, I think that she's actually

Steve:

right and handling it better. So far,

Steve:

it's Lily's business, but she's gonna know it and she's gonna

Steve:

hound Lily to do the right thing,

Steve:

which I'm sure she'll do. Also,

Steve:

it's his job, Mom. Doorman is not

Steve:

derogatory.

Steve:

It's a job title.

Leif:

Vanessa and Gabrielle just. Just go back to Vermont and stay there

Leif:

forever.

Steve:

Yes.

Leif:

Blair, Eleanor and Chuck are walking up to the building. It

Leif:

looks like Blair is going to do all the trophy.

Leif:

Is she pregnant Tests.

Steve:

Yeah. Trying to force Eleanor to drink.

Steve:

Here, Carrie, here's the champagne. Yeah.

Leif:

And Chuck, continuing his good episode, he

Leif:

remembers his girlfriend's mom's favorite champagne.

Steve:

Yes. Yeah. This season, Chuck.

Steve:

The glow up of Chuck. This season,

Steve:

I have loved who

Steve:

he's grown into.

Leif:

Mm. Mhm.

Steve:

So far.

Leif:

Yep, so far. Blair

Leif:

arrives and gets an icy greeting from

Leif:

Serena. Chuck threatens to kick Serena

Leif:

out of the Empire if she catches her playing

Leif:

grabass in his elevator again.

Steve:

Yeah. Maureen coming in and instantly

Steve:

dropping hints that she knows

Steve:

and not. Yeah, that's totally not

Steve:

awkward. And then she walks off to see Nate and they. And

Steve:

Trip stays to talk to Serena. You

Steve:

idiot, you. You. Both of you

Steve:

are so dumb to think that you could pull

Steve:

this off.

Leif:

Maureen confronts Nate and flat out asks if

Leif:

Serena and Trip are having an affair. And Nate admits they

Leif:

are and that he has an idea. When the scene cuts, it

Leif:

looks like he's going to show her the, uh,

Leif:

elevator footage on his phone.

Steve:

Yeah, Nate given the goods to Maureen.

Steve:

Can't blame him. I'm, um, kind of team

Steve:

Nate on this whole Thing that.

Leif:

Yes. And now he has ulterior

Leif:

motives. Clearly.

Steve:

He does. He does.

Steve:

I can't blame him for his ulterior

Steve:

motives because. And here's why. If

Steve:

Serena was like, they broke up.

Steve:

It was done. And she still went

Steve:

to Nate and was like, but I'm not into you either.

Steve:

I think Nate would be like, okay.

Steve:

I think Nate would accept that. So

Steve:

I think that Nate was doing it to protect

Steve:

Serena and to save

Steve:

Serena for two reasons. To save Serena, to save

Steve:

Serena, and to save Serena so he can be

Steve:

Serena's savior.

Leif:

Yeah. I just think it would have come off better for was Chuck and

Leif:

Nate or even just Chuck.

Steve:

I agree. Which Chuck, you know,

Steve:

clearly, when we see it, isn't too happy about it.

Leif:

Yeah. Jenny pulls Blair aside

Leif:

to find out what Eric did at cotillion. Uh, Blair admits m

Leif:

that Eric is the one who came up with a plan to take down

Leif:

Jenny.

Steve:

The choreography in this scene, when you just see

Steve:

Blair go walking by, and then

Steve:

instantly Jenny and Blair come, um, back around the

Steve:

corner. That you just know that Blair walked around the corner,

Steve:

got grabbed by the wrist, and hauled right back.

Steve:

It was so quick and so

Steve:

perfect. Blair was completely out of the shot

Steve:

for a millisecond before they both came

Steve:

barging back in. I thought that was so great.

Steve:

And then we had Blair spill more tea. So

Steve:

much tea spilled in this

Steve:

episode.

Leif:

And it all comes up in this next scene.

Leif:

What you say drops. Dinner begins,

Leif:

and secrets and verbal daggers are coming out

Leif:

in rapid fire. Lily didn't come home

Leif:

until several months after CeCe went into remission.

Leif:

Vanessa is embarrassed by her mom biting into other people's

Leif:

business. Jenny calls Eric out for

Leif:

cotillion. Eric fires back at her bland

Leif:

sweet potatoes. Blair continues to offer

Leif:

Eleanor foods from the banned for pregnant women list.

Leif:

Maureen is disgusted by Serena and Trip and

Leif:

pulls out the footage and says that the affair is over

Leif:

or she goes public. At the end of it,

Leif:

Rufus is obliviously tells dad jokes,

Leif:

and CeCe raises her glass while cackling.

Steve:

So, yeah, this was a lot. There's a lot that happened

Steve:

here.

Leif:

Yes.

Steve:

It was so good.

Steve:

First of all, Rufus being annoyed with CeCe

Steve:

doing CeCe shit. You. You invited her,

Steve:

Rufus. You brought her here. This was your

Steve:

doing. You know that Cici's a shit stirrer. So when

Steve:

she sits next to you and starts stirring shit, don't be too surprised.

Steve:

But also, Gabriela, mind your fucking business and shut your

Steve:

fucking mouth. Especially at, uh, Thanksgiving in front of all these

Steve:

people. Like, yeah, you're friends with Rufus. Call him later.

Steve:

And see if he's okay. But then

Steve:

the writing here, the writing and the directing, the way

Steve:

that the dialogue is just tossed

Steve:

around. This scene where you have.

Steve:

Have it go from the Rufus

Steve:

Cece. Uh, well, I keep calling her

Steve:

Zoe. Gabriella with their

Steve:

little bit. And then it kicks over to Dan and Vanessa, who.

Steve:

Vanessa chimes into that, but then has her own thing.

Steve:

And then they talk, and then they throw it to Jenny and Eric, and

Steve:

then they have their barbs and Eric has the.

Steve:

Do you have nothing to say? Your sweet potatoes

Steve:

are bland. So great.

Steve:

And honestly. And then Maureen spilling the tea

Steve:

and Lily standing over their shoulder to catch the whole

Steve:

thing. Just perfect. But all

Steve:

the while, I'm thinking, I want to hear the goddamn

Steve:

joke.

Leif:

That's what I call play with

Leif:

rock.

Leif:

And, uh, it's Cece just raising your glass and just

Leif:

cackling.

Steve:

Yeah. So good. So.

Steve:

And everybody else at the table just being like,

Steve:

what the fuck just happened?

Leif:

So I'm glad we'll get into this a little more later, but

Leif:

I'm glad my memory. When we get into this week in fandom,

Leif:

I'm glad my memory was not completely wrong in this,

Leif:

that this has become a very

Leif:

iconic Gossip Girl scene. But during the

Leif:

original run, it was not really seen that way.

Steve:

Oh.

Leif:

But like, now in its second and third runs

Leif:

on streaming, it has definitely become extremely

Leif:

popular. The scenes, you know, every Thanksgiving,

Leif:

I see it, my social media feeds popping up. And there was

Leif:

even, like, a Gossip Girl Thanksgiving TikTok

Leif:

challenge where, like, you, like, showed yourself getting up from the

Leif:

table with, like, a caption.

Steve:

A storm off.

Leif:

Yeah. With the song

Leif:

by Jason DiRullio. What you say?

Leif:

So. And this is, you know, and I. So it's

Leif:

definitely become an iconic scene in Gossip Girl.

Leif:

Jason derues. Whatcha say? Samples

Leif:

Imogen Heaps. Hide and seek.

Steve:

Okay.

Leif:

Which was used in

Leif:

the most iconic scene from the, uh, oc.

Leif:

It was on snl and.

Steve:

Oh, okay.

Leif:

So that's kind of a weird coincidence.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah. Or maybe not.

Leif:

I mean.

Steve:

Yeah, you know, it could be.

Leif:

Yeah. It's not that, like, witnesses, but it's amazing

Leif:

that he was able to do it twice.

Steve:

Yeah. Because the other. The other thing I wanted to bring up in

Steve:

that scene, though, because you just mentioned it. The storm

Steve:

offs. I think it was first Blair and

Steve:

then Jenny and then.

Steve:

And then Vanessa and Eleanor

Steve:

chases Blair. Gabriella doesn't

Steve:

chase Vanessa. I loved it. The

Steve:

storm offs were so good.

Leif:

And. Yeah. So another act break without a Gossip

Leif:

Girl blast. We go into Act 4,

Leif:

and Serena has followed Lily to Another

Leif:

room who is furious at her daughter. Lily

Leif:

says Serena is no longer welcome in her home until she ends

Leif:

things with Trip.

Steve:

You're the worst fucking mom. But only to your own

Steve:

kid. Any other kid that you are that is in your

Steve:

circle, you'd be like, oh, that's really tragic.

Steve:

Oh, you, uh, take them in and have a

Steve:

conversation and guide them like you do with Blair,

Steve:

like you do with Jenny. But when it's your kid, you're like, get the fuck out of

Steve:

my house. While you're dating a congressman.

Steve:

Get out. A married congressman. But,

Steve:

like, you're kicking her out, like, all the fucking

Steve:

time.

Leif:

Yeah. I mean, it's not the same as kicking out a normal

Leif:

person.

Steve:

I was just, you know, it's. Get out of my head

Steve:

because I was just about to say it's. It's

Steve:

even more of a privilege to be like,

Steve:

you're not welcome in my house. I'll put you up at a

Steve:

hotel. I don't want you

Steve:

to be my problem.

Leif:

I want to see you right now.

Steve:

Yes. Yeah.

Leif:

Lily's basically what you're saying. I don't want to see you right, uh, now.

Steve:

Yes. And Lily's whole form of parenting is

Steve:

I don't want to deal with it. If you're doing something I don't like. I'm going

Steve:

to put you somewhere that I don't have to look at you.

Steve:

She, that's Eric starts off in an institution after

Steve:

trying to commit suicide, and she

Steve:

doesn't want anything to do with him there.

Leif:

It's no surprise why Serena's always got to go. She learned it

Leif:

right from Lily.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yep. Uh,

Steve:

something's wrong. I better leave. Because if I'm in trouble, I better

Steve:

leave.

Leif:

Yep. Jenny tries to make peace with

Leif:

Eric, but Eric just tells Jenny to watch her back.

Steve:

Yeah, Eric.

Leif:

Eric is being a bit of a shit this episode.

Steve:

Yeah. Eric, I'm not loving it. And I'm not loving this side of

Steve:

you. You are the grown up on this

Steve:

show. You are the conscience of this show.

Steve:

For you to not be able to

Steve:

make peace. And I get maybe even like, you

Steve:

want me to apologize? Let's talk.

Steve:

But also, you did screw her over.

Leif:

And then didn't even have the balls to admit it.

Steve:

And. Yeah. And didn't have. Yeah. And didn't even admit it.

Steve:

So I don't like this side of you,

Steve:

Eric.

Leif:

And say, yeah, Jonathan dumped him because of what

Leif:

he become and now he's just doubling down on that.

Steve:

Yeah, he's leaning in.

Leif:

Blair is trying to eat a Whole pie to herself

Leif:

in the lobby when Eleanor walks in. Eleanor

Leif:

is not the one who is pregnant. She is just moving to

Leif:

Paris full time. Blair apologizes to her

Leif:

mother for acting crazy, and Vanya walks up trying to

Leif:

figure out what he did to upset Dorota.

Leif:

Blair and Eleanor have a simultaneous light bulb

Leif:

moment.

Steve:

Adorable. I. I like that

Steve:

Eleanor is moving to Paris at. Makes it.

Steve:

Gives It. Makes it feel better than when she's not

Steve:

around all the time. I do hope that that

Steve:

doesn't mean that she won't come back more. I'm hoping that we'll

Steve:

see her pop in more because we've

Steve:

had to wait, what, 11 episodes to see her this year.

Steve:

I also did the Dorota thing

Steve:

is sweet. It's cute.

Leif:

Yeah. Gabrielle is concerned for

Leif:

Rufus on, uh, why Lily was dishonest with him.

Leif:

Rufus seems fine to just stick his head in the sand.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

And let him. At, uh, Thanksgiving right now with all

Steve:

these people around.

Leif:

Yeah. At first it's like, okay, Rufus, you just beat

Leif:

oblivious as normal. But then you realize he's just playing it

Leif:

cool.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

And so why are you keeping his business private?

Steve:

Yeah. So, like, text him later. Gabriella, stop

Steve:

being so fucking nosy. If you want to ask

Steve:

someone a bunch of questions about their life, why don't you try

Steve:

Vanessa? She'd love it.

Leif:

Yeah. Despite Dan trying to

Leif:

broker peace, Vanessa and her mom continue to fight. And it looks

Leif:

like Gabriella's headed for the door. Yeah.

Steve:

She's such an asshole.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

Yeah. And like, as much as I usually

Steve:

can't stand Vanessa, I was team Vanessa in this the whole

Steve:

time. Like, your mom is a. Is an asshole. Like, I

Steve:

get why you're such a butthole,

Steve:

and it's because of your mom.

Leif:

Serena gives a heartfelt apology to Maureen in

Leif:

front of Trip, Chuck, and Nate. Pretty sure Nate went from

Leif:

six to midnight when he heard Serena was ending things with Trip.

Steve:

Yeah. And Serena stood there and said, I

Steve:

promise never to see Trip again. And,

Steve:

you know, I bet she holds that promise.

Steve:

I bet that she holds up that promise and

Steve:

never sees Trip again.

Leif:

Mhm.

Steve:

Mhm.

Leif:

Go into Act 5. Blair finds

Leif:

Serena in her old room, now Jenny's room. Our

Leif:

leading ladies make up yet again. Let's hope it

Leif:

lasts for more than five minutes this time.

Steve:

It's a nice makeup scene. And it's nice

Steve:

that Blair recognizes that she was an asshole.

Steve:

Not that she was wrong, that she was

Steve:

handling it wrong. She was right

Steve:

in her sentiment, but she was handling it wrong.

Steve:

I also really liked that this gave

Steve:

them a reason to go to the safe? Yeah,

Steve:

when Blair said when? Yeah,

Steve:

when they said, oh yeah, my passport's in the safe,

Steve:

instantly I was like, oh, they're gonna find

Steve:

the letter. Lily put the letter in the safe.

Leif:

Mhm. Rufus does things the right way and

Leif:

waits to talk to Lily in private about her dishonesty.

Leif:

Lily is explaining why she didn't come home when she is interrupted

Leif:

by Cece, who calls her out on this lie as

Leif:

well.

Steve:

Yeah, Lily is sitting here and we all

Steve:

know she's lying right to Rufus's fucking

Steve:

face. And then

Steve:

cece comes in and again,

Steve:

Cece's right. You can't hold secrets like this.

Steve:

You can't go on a secret trip to see your ex

Steve:

husband, which is my. Which is the only thing that makes

Steve:

sense to me that Lily left to go

Steve:

see. What's his name? William,

Steve:

um, William Vanderwoodsen. So

Steve:

that's what I. Where I think she went. But she's

Steve:

sitting here lying. And I don't know if it was an innocent thing, I don't know

Steve:

if it was an affair thing, but whatever it was,

Steve:

she's lying to Rufus and

Steve:

cece coming in and basically saying,

Steve:

you can't have lies this big. And, um,

Steve:

this is very consistent to Cece's character.

Steve:

Cece has always been like, you can't have huge fucking

Steve:

secrets in your relationship. When she started rooting

Steve:

for these two, she was like, you can't

Steve:

have these big secrets in your relationship.

Steve:

And she's trying to kind of push Lily into having

Steve:

to tell it, but she's not blowing it up the way she did in

Steve:

the past.

Leif:

Eleanor and Blair forced Dorota to take a plate of food

Leif:

down to Vanya and tell him that she is

Leif:

pregnant. Dorota is worried because they aren't

Leif:

married.

Steve:

Cute.

Leif:

Start the next Polish and Russian war.

Steve:

Yeah, Tom

Steve:

Colicchio probably already sent him a plate.

Steve:

Rufus is a good cook, but he's not top chef.

Leif:

Dan comes home to find Gabriella on her way out the

Leif:

door. Dan gives a big speech about how great

Leif:

Vanessa is, and Gabriella calls him out for being in love with

Leif:

Vanessa, who then shows up.

Leif:

Dan goes to his room to give them some alone time.

Steve:

I found this to be really manipulative of

Steve:

Gabriella. I think that there was some sincerity

Steve:

in it that she's sitting here talking to Dan and

Steve:

recognizes for the first time he's showing

Steve:

these feelings. Right.

Steve:

But Dan is telling her something

Steve:

very important and really

Steve:

telling her, this is how you need to

Steve:

fix your relationship with your daughter.

Steve:

And instead of internalizing that.

Steve:

Which she does, because we do recognize that

Steve:

later. But her instant thing is, oh, you love my

Steve:

daughter.

Leif:

Jokes aside, I think Dan

Leif:

does love Vanessa. I don't think he's in love with

Leif:

her. But they saw each other naked.

Leif:

Things can get confusing.

Steve:

Yes. I

Steve:

believe that Dan loves Vanessa as well. I believe

Steve:

that Dan is confusing his

Steve:

love of the best friend

Steve:

for the love of the naked friend.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

And I do feel this is going to come to them dating

Steve:

again. And I personally feel like

Steve:

the best solution to that will be them discovering that they're

Steve:

just friends. That's what I would like to see. How I

Steve:

would like to see this play out or even for Dan to

Steve:

make the move. And, um, Vanessa be like, brah, you had your

Steve:

chance. Whatever. I do,

Steve:

I do agree with you that Dan

Steve:

does have something going on

Steve:

right now and is turmoiled by

Steve:

his feelings for Vanessa in this moment.

Steve:

I also think Gabriella deflected

Steve:

instead of internalizing that information.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

And I found that to be because of the way

Steve:

that Dan was mid sentence. When you see the

Steve:

expression on her face change that

Steve:

it's right. Then she's already set

Steve:

to change the subject from reconciling with

Steve:

her daughter to putting this other shit on Daniel.

Leif:

And I think she recognized that, evidenced by her.

Leif:

The next scene with them.

Steve:

Yes. Yes. At the same time, it also

Steve:

really shows the history of

Steve:

Gabriella and the Humphries.

Leif:

Yes.

Steve:

We really saw a lot of that in this episode.

Leif:

Trip yells at Nate for giving the footage to

Leif:

Maureen before leaving. Chuck kind of calls Nate

Leif:

out for stealing the footage, but he's cool about it because he knows

Leif:

Nate is still in love with Serena.

Steve:

Nate and Chuck being besties. I love it. I

Steve:

love that Chuck is clearly irritated.

Leif:

Yeah. But he's being a bro.

Steve:

Yeah, he's being a bro. And he gets it. And

Steve:

I really like that. And he's being a bro.

Steve:

But he's also laying out the business just like he did with

Steve:

Serena and the congressman.

Steve:

You play grab ass in my hotel again and you're out.

Steve:

You're not staying here. I'm not having that shit here.

Steve:

I'm not going to be Scandal Hotel. I will

Steve:

have a speakeasy in it. And I do want to have

Steve:

these horny parties.

Leif:

I think it was more a concern that he just pissed off that

Leif:

they stopped the elevator. Maybe.

Steve:

Well, that too. Well. And I think that the political

Steve:

scandal might bother him a little bit.

Leif:

Maybe not.

Steve:

Because that would be good publicity.

Leif:

Yeah. They care about politics.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah. Don't stop my

Steve:

elevator.

Leif:

Well, I Mean if it pisses off other customers, you know, trying,

Leif:

right?

Steve:

No, it's a legit. Especially just to like make

Steve:

out with the guy.

Leif:

Yeah. You got a room?

Steve:

Yeah. You have? Yeah. You're on your way to it.

Leif:

Blair and Serena are getting Serena's passport out of

Leif:

Bart's safe Trip shows up and declares that all he

Leif:

cares about is Serena. Blair tells Serena to go

Leif:

for it. But before Serena can leave, she finds

Leif:

the now open letter from Dr. Daddy addressed

Leif:

to Serena. She tells Blair she needs to

Leif:

be alone to read it.

Steve:

Trip, you dumb fuck. You dumb,

Steve:

dumb, dumb fuck. You're not even sworn

Steve:

in yet. Your political career is about

Steve:

to end and all you have to do

Steve:

is work shit out with your wife. Or at least

Steve:

try go to fucking therapy.

Steve:

No one would shame a congressman for working

Steve:

shit out with their wife. But you're gonna lose.

Steve:

You haven't been sworn in yet and you're going to get

Steve:

blown up in your second

Steve:

scandal and you're gonna explain to the press I'm

Steve:

leaving my wife because she cheated on the campaign. And now

Steve:

no reason.

Leif:

And now this blonde coincidence.

Steve:

Blonde? Yeah. This blonde coincidence, this

Steve:

teenage blonde coincidence is just hanging out with me

Steve:

that is almost a decade younger than me.

Steve:

They've established she's 26, I believe. Mhm.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Also that they've known each other forever.

Steve:

Yeah. Which means that once. Oh my God,

Steve:

it's the camp counselor all over again.

Steve:

Like, oh my God.

Steve:

Yeah. Because she's. They have established that. So

Steve:

like she was like he was 16 and she was fucking

Steve:

8 years old.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

And you all, you disgusting fucking

Steve:

creeps.

Leif:

So bad.

Steve:

Oh, uh, yeah. It's fucking Marius

Steve:

and Cosette from Les Miserables, you

Steve:

fucking creep.

Leif:

On her way out the door, Serena tells Lily that she

Leif:

is leaving with Trip, who is divorcing Maureen.

Leif:

Serena hands her the letter and says, you never

Leif:

get to judge me again.

Steve:

Mhm. Mhm. Serena taking those

Steve:

shots. Good, because your mom deserves it right now.

Steve:

You're an idiot. You're doing stupid shit. Like

Steve:

I said, I think last week Serena is being incredibly

Steve:

stupid and 100% in character.

Steve:

So.

Leif:

And justify it because Lily's also being

Leif:

stupid. Shit. In character.

Steve:

Yes. Yeah. They are both being

Steve:

fucking ridiculous and 100% in character.

Steve:

And it is right. That letter is

Steve:

addressed to Serena.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

That wasn't Lily's letter to hold from her

Steve:

18 year old daughter from her adult child.

Steve:

So Lily across this episode is just bad

Steve:

fucking momming and wife.

Leif:

Yeah. So based on her

Leif:

reaction and the you can't judge me does

Leif:

that mean somewhere in this letter that her

Leif:

dad sent to her that she talks about

Leif:

banging Lily.

Steve:

I had that thought, too. Hey, your mom came to see me

Steve:

this summer. I totally threw one in her while

Steve:

she was hanging out here. Would you like details?

Steve:

It was a warm summer night. We were both

Steve:

sweaty. It's like unfold.

Steve:

It's like this six page letter.

Steve:

Why did she keep reading it?

Steve:

The writing was on par with Dan Humphrey.

Leif:

And we move into the epilogue.

Leif:

Gabriella thanks Dan for getting her to sit down and

Leif:

talk with Vanessa. Uh, she advises Dan that he should be

Leif:

sure before he tells Vanessa's feelings because

Leif:

their friendship wouldn't survive another

Leif:

breakup.

Steve:

And the retcon is now

Steve:

solidified.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

That she poured her heart out to

Steve:

him before she left.

Steve:

Whereas the first time we see Vanessa,

Steve:

Dan, uh, told her he loved her

Steve:

and then she left.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

So this. This retcon is now finally.

Steve:

They've hinted at it here and there, and now Gabrielle

Steve:

is like when she poured her heart out to you.

Leif:

Yeah. So, yeah, this is Gabrielle kind of backtracking on what

Leif:

she said earlier.

Steve:

Well, she makes a good point, though. You love her.

Steve:

And I could see, like, the. Oh, you love her. And that sinking in within

Steve:

being like, m. Are you sure or are you

Steve:

gonna hurt her again? You can't hurt her like that.

Leif:

Well, now she's actually decided she cares about her daughter.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

After one conversation.

Steve:

Yes.

Steve:

Dan's point in that first conversation of, like, if you just

Steve:

spend half the attention that you do on these random

Steve:

strangers on your daughter.

Leif:

Yeah. She. She would.

Steve:

She'd love it.

Leif:

Yeah. And you would realize that you guys are more alike than you

Leif:

think.

Steve:

Yeah. You're both self righteous, pretentious,

Steve:

and super, super annoying.

Steve:

Good job, mom.

Leif:

Nate catches Serena on the sidewalk and declares that he

Leif:

has been in love with her for three years and begs her

Leif:

not to go his trip. Serena is clearly torn.

Steve:

I was thinking there was a timeline trouble here, but maybe

Steve:

not, because Serena says that

Steve:

the letter was from. Was a. Was

Steve:

addressed weeks ago. Nate says

Steve:

ever since last week. But I guess that letter had been

Steve:

sitting there waiting for Lily to get home for

Steve:

a while. That makes sense. When I first watched it, I

Steve:

was like, she said weeks, and then he said week.

Steve:

But now I remember that it was in Lily's pile

Steve:

of mail waiting for her when she got m. Home.

Leif:

Vanessa, uh, and Dan hug goodbye, and she

Leif:

says that she thinks Shan's new face is cute.

Leif:

Gossip Girl begins her end of episode

Leif:

monologue. Another Thanksgiving has come and

Leif:

gone. And what am I most thankful for

Leif:

the truth. Sometimes it's the truth you've been

Leif:

trying not to face or the truth they will change

Leif:

your life.

Steve:

Vanessa, uh, like, has that flirty. I like this

Steve:

new face. Oh, no.

Steve:

It's gonna happen. They're all gonna fuck.

Leif:

Dorota tells a jubilant Vanya about

Leif:

her pregnancy.

Steve:

Sweet. And we don't even see it. It's just like a nice.

Leif:

Yeah, you see it from afar.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

And he just lifts her up and jumps around.

Steve:

Super excited, so cute and very happy

Steve:

for them. I really need. Do need to go and watch

Steve:

the YouTube series. You've watched it?

Leif:

Uh, yes. You know,

Leif:

10 years, almost 20 years ago, when it's on.

Steve:

Right, Right. Is it worth the watch?

Leif:

Probably not.

Steve:

Probably not. Got it.

Leif:

Jenny and Eric give each other icy stares

Leif:

as they pass each other in the hallway. Eric

Leif:

text an unknown number. Jenny knows

Leif:

we have to strike.

Steve:

Not loving this look on you, Eric. Not loving

Steve:

it. You are always a better than this and

Steve:

above this. I'm not loving this for you,

Steve:

Mr.

Leif:

Two Face, as Jenny called him.

Steve:

Yeah, he is always, always

Steve:

had the moral high ground on this show every,

Steve:

uh, until now. And it's

Steve:

a shame. I hope you get. I hope we get him

Steve:

back to normal. He's too important. He's the

Steve:

soul of the. Of. Especially of the

Steve:

Vander Woodsons. Uh, he's

Steve:

this sage.

Leif:

Gossip Girl continues. Sometimes

Leif:

it's the truth that's a long time coming or the

Leif:

truth you prayed would never see the light of day.

Leif:

We see Lily briefly reading the letter when

Leif:

Rufus calls out to her. Lily hides the letter in a

Leif:

jacket pocket on the coat rack. Rufus is looking

Leif:

for the wedding album to show off his jam with Kim and

Leif:

Thurston of the Sonic use of the

Leif:

Sonic Youths.

Steve:

And look, why are you reading the note right out here in

Steve:

the open, you dumbass?

Steve:

Then hide it in your jacket pocket. Great.

Steve:

That's not. That's gonna end well.

Leif:

Chuck is leaving with Blair and Eleanor when he spots

Leif:

Nate moping. Chuck asked permission to ditch

Leif:

Blair and her mom to go comfort Nate. Gossip Girl

Leif:

continues with some truths may not be

Leif:

heard the way we hope they would. Jeff being

Leif:

a good friend again and, you know, a good boyfriend asking permission.

Steve:

Yeah, uh, Chuck was just great here,

Steve:

and Blair being like, I do mind, but I know you

Steve:

have to. And being the good

Steve:

girlfriend, the absolutely, you can

Steve:

go do what you need with your friend and go take

Steve:

care of your friend. Robin actually said,

Steve:

I think it was around this part that if Chuck and

Steve:

Blair break up, she's not going to be okay. And I was

Steve:

like, ooh, there's no way they can make

Steve:

it through this entire series together. There's no

Steve:

way.

Leif:

Serena is in back of the limo with Trip, but not

Leif:

looking like someone happy to be running away in love.

Leif:

Gossip Girl says, But they linger

Leif:

long after they've been said. This

Leif:

scene was very, very

Leif:

reminiscent of. Of last season when

Leif:

she left with Aaron.

Steve:

Yes. Yeah.

Leif:

Same shot. Seeing the limo, uh, with her, you know, hands

Leif:

held, or the. The guy's hand on top of her hand.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Possessively holding her.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

And her just looking miserable.

Steve:

Yeah. Like. Like she's made a huge

Steve:

mistake. Yeah, it is. This

Steve:

is the second time we're seeing this same

Steve:

behavior from her.

Leif:

Maureen comes back to the penthouse to get her coat.

Leif:

On the elevator, she noticed the letter from the jacket

Leif:

pocket. Gossip Girl brings us home with. But the

Leif:

kind of truth I'm most thankful for. The one you

Leif:

never see coming that falls right into your lap.

Leif:

Xo xo Gossip Girl. And the

Leif:

episode closes with the elevator doors closing on

Leif:

a grinning Maureen.

Steve:

That last shot was

Steve:

fucking amazing. The fourth wall break when

Steve:

she's looking at the note, and she just looks up, and she

Steve:

looks right at the camera and has that

Steve:

grin as the elevator closes.

Steve:

Masterful. Masterful. It

Steve:

was so good.

Leif:

And this is the full quote from Gossip Girl.

Leif:

Another Thanksgiving has come and gone.

Steve:

And.

Leif:

Ah. What am I most thankful for? The truth.

Leif:

Sometimes it's the truth you've been trying not to face

Leif:

or the truth that will change your life. Sometimes

Leif:

it's the truth that's a long time coming or

Leif:

the truth you prayed you would never see the light of day.

Leif:

Some truths may be heard the way we hoped they

Leif:

would, but they linger long after they've been said.

Leif:

But they. The kind of truth I'm most thankful for.

Leif:

The one you never see coming that falls right into your

Leif:

lap. Xo xo xo

Leif:

Gossip Girl. Uh, that is our

Leif:

episode. What's coming next. What does that

Leif:

letter say?

Steve:

Yeah, I mean, the letter

Steve:

clearly show states that Lily came to

Steve:

visit him. It's got to have some

Steve:

explanation as to why he's avoiding Serena.

Steve:

Which my only guess is Lily went out there and

Steve:

was like, don't fucking talk to

Steve:

her. That's my one guess

Steve:

that.

Leif:

Well, what was the timeline?

Steve:

Uh, the timeline? Well, Serena.

Leif:

Could they have been together while Serena went there?

Steve:

Oh, so. Well, that was.

Steve:

She came back in October. She was

Steve:

healthy from August. So September, October, she was

Steve:

out there. Serena was looking for her

Steve:

dad over the summer,

Steve:

so it would have come back.

Leif:

And she came Back right at the beginning of September.

Steve:

Like right at the beginning of September. So there may have been

Steve:

so, so it might have been like a. Why, ah, is our daughter

Steve:

out here looking for me? And yeah,

Steve:

whatever it is. It's just

Steve:

Lily. Did Lily keep. It's bad enough that

Steve:

Lily's keeping it from Rufus. And one of my big

Steve:

predictions, I wonder if this could break them up. I

Steve:

kind, I, I, I knew about the marriage. I had talked about

Steve:

that that had been spoiled for me, but also was

Steve:

kind of obviously, what marriage? Lillian. Lillian.

Steve:

Rufus getting married was spoiled for me like

Steve:

two or three episodes before we saw it.

Steve:

That or it was what it was a Blake Lively

Steve:

interview that she was like that. I was just

Steve:

flipping through TikTok and Blake Lively said something about

Steve:

how she was on a show dating

Steve:

her where her boyfriend becomes her

Steve:

stepbrother. And I was like, oh,

Steve:

okay, well, that's gonna happen. It was. Yeah.

Steve:

And so I did know that they would get married.

Steve:

I really thought they'd have a happily ever after.

Steve:

And every episode that they're doing stuff when I'm like, this is

Steve:

a very appropriate reuse for Lily and Rufus that I

Steve:

really wanted their drama to be done

Steve:

to make this show now just about

Steve:

the kids and the kids relationships with the

Steve:

parents, but not the

Steve:

parents with each other anymore. I wanted that drama

Steve:

done. And now it seems like

Steve:

it's back and it seems like

Steve:

this could be a breakup thing, that this could force them

Steve:

apart. So I'm really curious as to where that.

Steve:

I'm really curious as to where that will go.

Leif:

Any other predictions?

Steve:

War between Eric and little Jenny.

Steve:

Eric is plotting and I just. It means that

Steve:

Jenny is going to retaliate. And Jenny

Steve:

escalates. Yeah, Jenny.

Leif:

Yeah, she does Jenny. She burns that shit down.

Steve:

She does you. If you're bringing, if you're

Steve:

bringing in a Nerf bat, she's bringing a

Steve:

machete to the fight. And

Steve:

she's always going to escalate

Steve:

whatever it is until it, until it burns

Steve:

down.

Leif:

She's always reaching for that can of gasoline.

Leif:

Uh, let's get into some segments this

Leif:

weekend. Fan of finally, the Telosa without Pity

Leif:

forums are back.

Steve:

Oh, good.

Leif:

Hello there, Peabody here. And this

Leif:

is the Wayback Machine for traveling through time. And this

Leif:

is my boy, Sherman. Speak, Sherman.

Steve:

Hello.

Leif:

Good boy. Uh, they. The

Leif:

overall reaction to this episode was good, but definitely

Leif:

not equal to the post series hype, as I kind of mentioned earlier.

Steve:

Right. Which it's interesting to

Steve:

me because on my first watch of this

Steve:

scene, I was blown away. I was

Steve:

blown Away by that choreography of

Steve:

it, by the directing, by the

Steve:

writing, how everything was tossed around. Now,

Steve:

this is a multi camera show, of course. Right.

Steve:

So with

Steve:

several takes of them throwing that around, but still,

Steve:

it would be a tough scene to line

Steve:

up to shoot to get that

Steve:

smooth. Uh, just every level of

Steve:

production of that scene was

Steve:

exciting and just

Steve:

so bam, bam, bam with the

Steve:

dialogue. So I, I'm, um,

Steve:

really surprised that it didn't hold up like that.

Steve:

I really felt that was the best Thanksgiving scene we've

Steve:

had in three Thanksgiving episodes.

Steve:

This is probably my favorite of the three Thanksgiving ones. And the

Steve:

other two are phenomenal episodes.

Leif:

Yeah. I think this is actually my least favorite one. Even though the scene

Leif:

is iconic and it's hilarious, it

Leif:

didn't hit those same emotional notes that the

Leif:

first two ones had.

Steve:

I get that. I get that you're you. That

Steve:

is, that is fair.

Leif:

And so we haven't. We haven't had television

Leif:

without pity for a while here. But I got the sense

Leif:

that they are definitely not liking this season as much as the fan

Leif:

forum people.

Steve:

That's fair.

Leif:

They are definitely. They're definitely a tougher crowd.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Especially when it comes to, like, writing and stuff.

Leif:

Um, not enough Blair or Chuck and not enough

Leif:

Blair and Chuck.

Steve:

They really had just supporting roles in this

Steve:

whole thing. They had the one scene together and they've

Steve:

been doing this a lot. That there's. You see them in

Steve:

the beginning and then they go their own way and then

Steve:

sometimes meet up at the end.

Leif:

So. Yeah, as I talked about that, the Jason

Leif:

DiRullio song is very iconic for that

Leif:

with that scene. There was multiple people that mentioned that scene.

Leif:

That song was horrible in

Leif:

the thread. But yeah, that's about

Leif:

it there. It was only, uh, a short thread this week, so

Leif:

let's go ahead and get over to episode grades. It is your

Leif:

turn to go first.

Steve:

I gave this an A. I originally gave it

Steve:

an A plus. I'm knocking it down to an A

Steve:

just because of that lack of

Steve:

emotional content that it did have that the

Steve:

other two did have. Where I think the

Steve:

first one, I was borderline tears when Blair

Steve:

looked at herself in the mirror

Steve:

in the distorted refrigerator reflection.

Leif:

And then the second one with Blair, Jenny and

Leif:

Eleanor out on the street.

Steve:

Yeah. Oh, I don't know why my brain made those

Steve:

both the same episode, but that scene is

Steve:

just. Oh, my God, that one did.

Leif:

It's one of the best scenes of the show.

Steve:

Yeah. Uh, amazing. They really

Steve:

put everything into Thanksgiving, though.

Leif:

So you give it an A.

Steve:

Yes, I give this an A. I also wanted to mention,

Steve:

as we often do, the fact that they all come

Steve:

together at the end, that

Steve:

this one not only did everything tie up, but you

Steve:

had everybody. You had this

Steve:

huge cast all

Steve:

together in the same room, acting together, and that was

Steve:

really fun.

Leif:

Yeah. Uh, so the writing, the

Leif:

dialogue in this was great. The foreshadowing with the

Leif:

jacket, great setup and payoff.

Leif:

Directing was excellent. All the choreography.

Leif:

There's two big things that knock it down a little bit for me.

Leif:

One, as I said, it didn't hit that same

Leif:

emotional bar that the first two Thanksgiving episodes.

Leif:

And two, I just really, really hate the Dan and

Leif:

Vanessa storyline. So, uh, that brought it

Leif:

down to a B for me.

Steve:

Okay. I hate it, but I'm not.

Steve:

But I'm not mad at it. You know what I mean? Like, I know it has

Steve:

to happen.

Leif:

Does it, though? It just seems like Dan's forcing

Leif:

himself into believing that he's in love with her.

Steve:

Yes, I agree with that. And again,

Steve:

it's teenager. It's confusing when you see someone

Steve:

naked thing. Do I love her now?

Leif:

No, you're just horny.

Steve:

Yes. Yeah. No, you just. You had

Steve:

a threesome, brah. Like, it's going to. It's going to have some

Steve:

residual effects on you. You can't go back from that.

Leif:

Moving to stock Watch, who do you got going

Leif:

up?

Steve:

Cece. I had Cece going up. I have

Steve:

Vanessa going up. I have Chuck and Blair going up.

Steve:

Even though they kind of had nothing episodes, I feel like they had a.

Steve:

I like them. I have Dorota and Vanya going

Steve:

up. I have Eleanor going up.

Steve:

Congratulations on the new abode. And I

Steve:

have Dan going up for fixing

Steve:

Vanessa and Gabriella.

Leif:

Fair enough. For me, I had Dorota

Leif:

and Vanya. I had Chuck, but not Blair,

Leif:

Dorota and Vanya because they're pregnant and happy. Chuck because he

Leif:

was a good bro and a good boyfriend. Uh, Vanessa

Leif:

and Gabrielle going up because they, you know, connected

Leif:

and got their mother daughter thing going on. And

Leif:

also Eleanor and Cyrus because, yeah, they got a new. Nice, uh, new

Leif:

property in Paris.

Steve:

Yeah, I guess I should.

Leif:

Yeah, he was mentioned.

Steve:

He was mentioned. So, yeah, I'll give it to Cyrus, too.

Leif:

Who do you have going down?

Steve:

Lily, Serena, Nate,

Steve:

Tripp, Maureen, even though I think

Steve:

Maureen's about to get a big boost. But

Steve:

for right now, Maureen stock went down, and I had

Steve:

Gabriella going down. And it's because,

Steve:

yes, they had that good makeup in the end,

Steve:

but net gains in this

Steve:

episode, I felt like she tanked for so much

Steve:

of it. I really hated the deflection

Steve:

when she talked to Dan that moment. I.

Steve:

Yeah. Gabrielle went down for me.

Leif:

Yeah, she. She was awful. But there was zero consequences for

Leif:

her for being awful.

Steve:

That's a bigger problem.

Leif:

For me. I had Jenny going down because she did

Leif:

not get her friend back. Eric going down because he was being

Leif:

shitty.

Steve:

Oh yeah, I'm sorry. Add Eric for me. I knew I was forgetting

Steve:

someone. I wasn't giving it to Jenny because.

Steve:

Oh yes. And Jenny because her sweet potatoes were bland.

Leif:

Nate because he got left at the altar.

Leif:

Metaphorically. I had Dan going

Leif:

down because he's gaslit himself into believing

Leif:

he loves Vanessa. Lily because

Leif:

she is horrible as a mother and as a partner.

Leif:

Serena because she's doing dumb shit all day.

Leif:

Tripp because he is a creepy creeper

Leif:

creep. Maureen because she's still in love with the

Leif:

guy that's leaving her for a child.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah. You're in love. You're in love with

Steve:

this person. You're still in love with this. Well,

Steve:

and also I don't know if it's a love thing or if

Steve:

it's a uh, power thing. Like she's. That's my

Steve:

congressman husband that I got elected.

Steve:

Thanks to me, he's going to be a

Steve:

congressman. I know he doesn't want to talk about that,

Steve:

but I did get him elected.

Leif:

Yeah. And also I had Blair going

Leif:

down because she was just kind of an asshole most of this

Leif:

episode.

Steve:

That's fair.

Leif:

And then. And she also flip flopped on, on the trip thing

Leif:

too. At the end she's like, go for it. Yeah, that.

Steve:

I actually meant to talk about that because of how

Steve:

Serena is the. I want to go for whatever the

Steve:

shiny thing that tells me they love me is. Blair

Steve:

is such an enabler because once she sees someone say

Steve:

no, no, no, I really do like you. Blair's like, aw.

Steve:

Every one of Serena's bad relationships

Steve:

that she's judged her for, she has then come around and been like

Steve:

aw. Like the Carter thing. And

Steve:

Aaron, I believe she did it.

Leif:

Mhm. And then I also had a Rufus going dad because it looks

Leif:

like he got cheated on.

Steve:

Yeah. Add Rufus for me. I was on the fence with

Steve:

him. I felt so bad. He got the. He wanted

Steve:

a big Thanksgiving. He got it and it sucked.

Steve:

His joke didn't land. But

Steve:

here's the best outfits from the last

Steve:

episode we've seen.

Leif:

M. Well, who do you have for best outfit?

Steve:

I had Serena's

Steve:

pantsuit sort of thing. The.

Leif:

The, the jumpsuit.

Steve:

Really? Yeah. Well, here's the thing. I

Steve:

don't Often anymore. Pick a lot of

Steve:

Serena's stuff because a lot of Serena's stuff is

Steve:

all very. Just tits

Steve:

out all over the place, which isn't a style that I

Steve:

really as interested in.

Leif:

It's the same thing she was doing with that.

Steve:

Although I found that

Steve:

big V line to not be so

Steve:

much like, yes, all cleavage, but not just

Steve:

like. She wasn't busting out of it. I didn't think.

Steve:

And I thought it was a better.

Leif:

But it was not a pantsuit. It was like. It was a literal, like jump

Leif:

jumpsuit.

Steve:

Was it?

Leif:

Yeah, it was just like.

Steve:

It was a jumper.

Leif:

Um, it was like a full body yoga pants.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah.

Leif:

With a V neck.

Steve:

Yeah, I dug it.

Leif:

To me, that was one of the worst outfits of the episode.

Leif:

I was actually going to mention that as being particularly bad. That's

Leif:

funny because I like for family Thanksgiving too.

Steve:

I mean, Serena's always going to have something showing on

Steve:

family Thanksgiving.

Leif:

For me, I had Blair's mustard

Leif:

floral pattern dress, uh, star dress by.

Leif:

And it was, uh, by Soraya and also

Leif:

honorable mentioned sisterians embroidered collar coat.

Leif:

I really like that coat she had on.

Steve:

Oh, yeah.

Leif:

With the gold, like beads on it.

Steve:

It's funny because I actually hated that dress on Blitz. I hated the

Steve:

color of that dress for Blair. So

Steve:

I think it's funny that we got. Because I was like. Because I remember paying

Steve:

attention as I was paying attention. It's like, what's Blair

Steve:

wearing? It's like, I don't like that. I don't like the

Steve:

pattern and the color on it.

Leif:

So, yeah, I liked it with the lace tights, which

Leif:

are actually very similar to the tights that Jenny was wearing.

Steve:

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Leif:

And she also had the big necklace to costume

Leif:

jewelry. Yes, that is it for

Leif:

segments. You have anything you want to plug this week?

Steve:

Uh, not particularly. I did watch

Steve:

the studio on your recommendation. I'm caught

Steve:

up on that. I think one of my favorite

Steve:

episodes was the gala when

Steve:

he's with all.

Leif:

These doctors, with the doctors,

Leif:

with the.

Steve:

Child oncologists, and he's making the

Steve:

argument that his job is just as stressful as

Steve:

theirs. But then he starts making some

Steve:

really good points like,

Steve:

where's your funding coming from? Yeah, I'll

Steve:

donate $2,000 for this golf trip. I don't want.

Steve:

Because the arts fund your shit. They fund

Steve:

your research.

Leif:

Yeah. And the other point that he made was, yes,

Leif:

I'm not dealing with life and death day to day

Leif:

directly, but I am responsible

Leif:

for hundreds, if not thousands of people's

Leif:

livelihood.

Steve:

Yes. Yeah. Uh, I really.

Steve:

When he first started down that road, I was like, oh, uh,

Steve:

dude, what are you. Are you seriously going to compare your job

Steve:

to. To child

Steve:

oncologists? But then as he started to

Steve:

do it, it was like, all right. Like

Steve:

he actually has a point. The whole thing of

Steve:

how of all of the galas that are held here for

Steve:

your stupid charity shit. It's the movies

Steve:

on the fountain. It's the movies

Steve:

that are here. Gigli

Steve:

is on this fountain.

Leif:

Yes.

Steve:

It just was such a. I am a

Steve:

person who doesn't like to think in terms of

Steve:

this is a more important job than that or

Steve:

this person deserves more because they do that and this person

Steve:

deserves less because they don't. I don't often think

Steve:

in those terms. And so when he

Steve:

had that argument it was like, he is right.

Steve:

He does have a high stress job where people's

Steve:

lives literally are at stake. In a

Steve:

different manner of speaking, people don't eat

Steve:

if he fails at his job.

Leif:

Yeah, nothing for me to plug this

Leif:

week but you can follow me on social media. I'm on

Leif:

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Leif:

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Leif:

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Leif:

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Leif:

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Leif:

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Leif:

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Leif:

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Leif:

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Leif:

youm can also.

Steve:

Find me on Instagram um, and TikTok

Steve:

at Steve Marchon M A R

Steve:

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Steve:

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Steve:

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Steve:

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Steve:

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Steve:

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Steve:

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Steve:

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Steve:

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Steve:

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Leif:

And we will be back next week to Talk

Leif:

about Season 3 Episode 12

Leif:

the debarted.

Steve:

The Debarded.

Leif:

The episode description reads

Leif:

chuck wrestles with a past issue.

Leif:

A serious car accident rocks the Upper east

Leif:

side Dan and Vanessa try to

Leif:

navigate their complicated friendship.

Steve:

It's like it's sort of two truths and a lie

Steve:

only it's one of these things is

Steve:

much is not like.

Leif:

The other very low states.

Steve:

Yes,

Steve:

Chuck is grappling with life changing information.

Leif:

Well actually it says these wrestles where they pass issue

Leif:

so could just be a parking ticket.

Steve:

In the episode called the debarted.

Steve:

Clearly yes.

Steve:

He's just. He's got to treat that gonorrhea that he

Steve:

picked up.

Leif:

Well, until next time. You know you love us.

Steve:

XOXO Every time you walk away

Steve:

run away you take a piece of me with

Steve:

you there Every time

Steve:

you walk away or run away you take a piece of me

Steve:

with you there Every

Steve:

time you walk away or run away you take a piece of

Steve:

me with you there

Steve:

oh it seems I'm walking.

Steve:

Right to your door

Steve:

my heart still.

Steve:

Resting looking for something more

Steve:

are you ever gonna see everything you mean to me

Steve:

I'm trying really hard to believe

Steve:

every time you walk away or run away you take a piece

Steve:

of me with you there

Steve:

Every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there

Steve:

Every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there

Steve:

never feels right when I'm out here on my

Steve:

own

Steve:

I left last night and it feels like

Steve:

way too long

Steve:

are you ever gonna see everything you mean to

Steve:

m me I'm trying really hard to believe

Steve:

every time you walk away, run away you take a piece

Steve:

of meat with you there

Steve:

Every time you walk away or run away you take a piece

Steve:

of me with you there

Steve:

Every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there.

Steve:

Come.

Steve:

Back to me

Steve:

smile and you'll make my life

Steve:

complete

Steve:

every time you walk away or run away you take a piece

Steve:

of me with you there

Steve:

Every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there

Steve:

Every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there

Steve:

Every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there

Steve:

Every time you walk away or run away you take a piece

Steve:

of me with you there

Steve:

Every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there

Steve:

Every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there

Steve:

Every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there.