Episode 9

S3E09 - "They Shoot Humphreys, Don't They?"

This week on the Non Judging Breakfast Pod, Leif and Steve are diving headfirst into the juicy drama of Gossip Girl Season 3, Episode 9, aptly titled "They Shoot Humphreys, Don't They?" With Cotillion just around the corner, our favorite Upper East Siders are caught in a whirlwind of ambition, betrayal, and a desperate search for their true selves.

Join Leif and Steve as they navigate Jenny's quest for validation amidst the pressures of her debutante ball—because who doesn’t love a little teenage angst with their morning coffee? Meanwhile, Serena’s tangled feelings for Trip and the escalating tension between her and Blair add more spice to the mix, proving that friendships can be as complicated as a game of chess on a rollercoaster.

With Eric’s loyalties hanging by a thread and new characters popping up like unexpected plot twists, this episode is packed with enough juicy moments to keep you glued to your earbuds. Expect plenty of laughs, insightful commentary, and a deep dive into the themes of wealth and social hierarchy that make this series iconic. So grab your favorite drink, kick back, and get ready for a breakfast chat that's as entertaining as it is enlightening!

Produced by Leif Capicola and Steve Marchion. 

Edited and mixed by Leif Capicola.

The Gossip Girl Theme Performed By Steve Marchion.

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Leif:

Which is what being a debutante is all about, so.

Steve:

It is.

Leif:

I mean, if you're going to ignore the whole fact that.

Steve:

Is a. Is. Is a. Yes.

Steve:

Is a feminist.

Leif:

So. Yeah, it's kind of. It's kind of hard to get up on my high horse

Leif:

about her needing the right guy.

Steve:

Yeah. Okay. That is cotillion in

Steve:

general. Is.

Leif:

Yeah. So if you're going to accept cotillion as

Leif:

a plot line, you know, he's kind of got to roll with it.

Steve:

Yeah, I' I got it. I got

Steve:

it.

Leif:

Hey, Upper east siders and all you scandal loving listeners out

Leif:

there, you just tuned into the non judging breakfast

Leif:

pod where the coffee is strong, the waffles

Leif:

are fresh, and the gossip is hotter than ever. My

Leif:

name is Leaf, and I'm your seasoned Gossip Girl veteran.

Steve:

And I'm Steve, the newbie, the

Steve:

greenhorn. I don't know, Leif,

Steve:

when am I now in season three?

Leif:

Well, you know, you really put yourself on the radar tonight. You

Leif:

better not make that mistake again or you'll pay. For real.

Steve:

I just wanted to be your friend.

Leif:

We'll see.

Steve:

So here's the deal, folks. Leaf has been

Steve:

watching Gossip Girl since it first aired, and I'm tuning

Steve:

in for the very first time. Together, we're your

Steve:

dynamic duo, bringing you all the drama,

Steve:

romance, and sometimes questionable fashion

Steve:

choices of this iconic 2007

Steve:

series.

Leif:

Bring your magnifying glasses because each week we're

Leif:

dissecting every juicy detail of the show

Leif:

one episode at a time. We'll connect the

Leif:

dots, uncover those sneaky little Easter eggs, and

Leif:

of course, serve up some piping hot behind the scenes

Leif:

tea. And expect some iconic fandom moments

Leif:

too, because what's a deep dive without a little

Leif:

drama?

Steve:

And since we are all about inclusivity here at the non

Steve:

judging breakfast podcast, there is always room for you at the

Steve:

non judging breakfast table. So go ahead and grab your

Steve:

coffee, a mimosa OR hey, it's

Steve:

4:20. Go ahead and call up Chuck's dealer

Steve:

and let's get into this and let's get started.

Leif:

Indeed. And

Leif:

joining us at the breakfast table, we get to continue that email

Leif:

from our friend Eden because we are on the episode she

Leif:

discussed. So let's get right back into

Leif:

that.

Steve:

Uh, let's get into it.

Leif:

She writes. And I did confirm that it is

Leif:

she. Now that you're

Leif:

on season three, one episode in particular I'm excited

Leif:

about is, uh, they shoot Humphreys, don't they?

Leif:

I hope this message reaches you before that one.

Leif:

To me, this episode taps into something extremely

Leif:

Inherent in the ethos of Gossip Girl, the

Leif:

interactions of wealth, social hierarchy,

Leif:

friendship and portrayal, as well as the cost of

Leif:

ambition and the search for identity. How does it do

Leif:

this? With a classic Jenny storyline, of

Leif:

course. I'm so glad this podcast is Jenny

Leif:

positive because I truly believe she's one of the most

Leif:

compelling characters, as I'm sure you

Leif:

research advanced. The title is based on the

Leif:

1969 film they shoot Horses,

Leif:

don't they? And referenced in a beloved episode

Leif:

of Gilmore Girls. I've seen this film

Leif:

and episode for as much as the

Leif:

Gilmore one does. I do think there are

Leif:

some interesting and perhaps unintentional thematic

Leif:

crossovers. For one,

Leif:

Jenny's metaphorical dance with the Upper east side

Leif:

mirrors the physical and emotional toll that the

Leif:

dancers in the film experience. The film

Leif:

also explores how, when pushed to your limit,

Leif:

survival can lead to sacrificing

Leif:

one's humanity, essentially doing whatever it

Leif:

takes to win. I see a similar concept in

Leif:

Jenny's storyline. Her desperate need for

Leif:

validation puts her in a moral gray area,

Leif:

blurring the lines between who she is and how

Leif:

she presents herself to the world. One of my

Leif:

other favorite episodes was Daredevil back in season

Leif:

one, which feels very linked to this one in terms of

Leif:

Jenny's arc. Jenny must prove herself to survive,

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and she does, but at what cost?

Leif:

This is why Jenny and Blair and Dan are my favorites.

Leif:

I love their authenticity and

Leif:

complexity, both in performance

Leif:

and writing. I think the show's strongest

Leif:

moments are the Jenny Blair storylines. I wish they

Leif:

gave us some more of them.

Steve:

Great email. We really appreciate

Steve:

this. First of all. Thank you very much.

Steve:

And this show.

Steve:

We've discussed how this show

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handles wealth and how wealth

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is just kind of everywhere. And even the poor

Steve:

people on this show

Steve:

are pretty wealthy. Yeah.

Steve:

That. There really is no

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one in poverty on this

Steve:

show. The poorest person we've

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probably seen is Horace. You know

Steve:

that. But

Steve:

for the most part, they view

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somebody who is in a lower

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wealth class still as being in

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poverty. And Jenny has this feeling

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of being in poverty

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despite never once in her

Steve:

life wondering where her next meal

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is coming from, never wondering if she's

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going to have a roof over her head.

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And yet

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she sees all of this luxury and

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glamour coming from the people above

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her and then marries into it.

Leif:

Having recently, uh, some discussions on, uh, the

Leif:

Mad Men subreddit about how

Leif:

back in the 60s there was

Leif:

levels to being white.

Steve:

Yes. Yeah.

Leif:

And that still exists at this high end even

Leif:

today.

Steve:

Yeah. My dad. Right.

Steve:

There was a hierarchy to

Steve:

everything, including

Steve:

being in the right religion, the Right

Steve:

church and the right type of

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white person that

Steve:

my dad would make. My dad who is

Steve:

who grew up in the 50s, he

Steve:

was born in 1940, grew up, really came of age in the

Steve:

50s and 60s and

Steve:

still would talk about Italians

Steve:

and the Irish

Steve:

at times, especially

Steve:

the Catholics. The

Steve:

Catholic was such a uh,

Steve:

lowly thing to my dad

Steve:

that in his hierarchy

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being Catholic was below being Jewish.

Steve:

Because at least being Jewish you just

Steve:

didn't know the right stuff. But being

Steve:

Catholic you knew it, but you were just doing it

Steve:

wrong. So

Steve:

yes, you are absolutely right.

Leif:

So uh, as you might have guessed, we are here to talk about

Leif:

season three, episode nine, they

Leif:

shoot Humphreys, don't they? Original air date

Leif:

November 9, 2009 and based on, as

Leif:

Eden mentioned, they Shoot Horses don't

Leif:

they, the 1969 film. I actually

Leif:

watched it yesterday. Takes place in the

Leif:

midst of the Great Depression. A

Leif:

manipulative MC Rocky enlist contestants

Leif:

for a dance marathon offering a fifteen hundred

Leif:

dollar cash prize. Among them are a

Leif:

failed actress, a middle aged sailor

Leif:

and a delusional blonde and a pregnant girl.

Leif:

Jane Fonda plays the uh, failed

Leif:

actress. And have you

Leif:

seen it?

Steve:

No, I have not. But she does mention that it's very

Steve:

depressing.

Leif:

Yes. Uh, so the opening sequence of the movie is

Leif:

this young boy watching what I'm guessing is either his father,

Leif:

his grandfather shooting a horse after

Leif:

it breaks its leg. So that's the

Leif:

whole. And then he.

Steve:

They shoot horses. Okay. Yeah.

Leif:

And I believe that young boy is

Leif:

the main guy who pairs up with Jane

Leif:

Fonda's character.

Steve:

Okay.

Leif:

And so in the Gilmore Girls

Leif:

episode, it is very much also a dance

Leif:

marathon episode. It's a one night affair.

Leif:

This marathon lasts like two months

Leif:

in the movie. Yeah.

Leif:

It's insane.

Steve:

Yeah. I could not dance that long.

Leif:

And then spoilers at the end

Leif:

she. Jane Fonda is so depressed that

Leif:

she lost that

Leif:

she asked the guy to shoot him. Shooter.

Steve:

Because they shoot horses when they fail.

Leif:

Because you know, she's 30, an actress, so she's, you know.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Might as well just put her out the pasture, just.

Steve:

Yep, her life is done.

Leif:

So. Yes, it is a very depressing movie.

Steve:

I mean she's a 30 year old actress. There

Steve:

are parts for grandmothers that I'm sure that

Steve:

she could find.

Leif:

Uh, yeah, yeah. This

Leif:

episode was written by Amanda

Leif:

Lasher, previously wrote in season

Leif:

two, Predipoor J, Gone

Leif:

with the Will, Satyr Anything.

Leif:

And in season three she also wrote the

Leif:

Freshman. Mhm.

Steve:

Yeah, she does a decent job. Yeah.

Leif:

She's a good writer.

Steve:

Yeah. And she has some good

Steve:

Jenny stuff too.

Leif:

And I think she is, like, an executive producer on.

Steve:

Yeah. So what happened in this one?

Leif:

Wait, you didn't like this episode?

Steve:

I did not like this episode.

Leif:

Oh, wow. Okay.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

That's interesting.

Steve:

Ultimately, what I really

Steve:

hated was

Steve:

the theme of if you have the

Steve:

best man, then you're the

Steve:

best girl. And that

Steve:

really, I felt like that it could have

Steve:

been a power moment, and we'll get to that. But, like, it could have

Steve:

been so much else.

Leif:

I mean, that's not a great. It's definitely not a great message,

Leif:

but I still love the episode.

Steve:

Okay.

Leif:

This show is not known for sending a good moral message.

Steve:

No, no,

Steve:

I would not accuse it of such.

Steve:

It was advertised as don't let your kids watch

Steve:

this.

Leif:

And it was, of course, directed by Allison

Leif:

McLean. And this is her only

Leif:

episode of Gossip Girl. She does a mix of

Leif:

other things that she does. She directed for TV

Leif:

like Carnival, the L Award, the

Leif:

Tudors, Sex in the City,

Leif:

movies like Crush Jesus's

Leif:

son. And she also did two music

Leif:

videos for Natalie and Viru, including Torn, her

Leif:

big hit.

Steve:

Yeah. Cool.

Leif:

So why don't you give us that vulture

Leif:

recap?

Steve:

It's time for cotillion again. Only this year,

Steve:

everything is different. Instead of the virginal white

Steve:

gowns this year, nearly everyone is

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draped in color. Blood red, icy blue,

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dark black colors that indicate the character's

Steve:

compromised virtue. Instead of sweet

Steve:

violin music, a neo riot grrrl band

Steve:

wails a song about being a bee, spelling out

Steve:

the letters. In case you missed it, the steps the characters

Steve:

take, however, are the same. Once again, Jenny

Steve:

Humphrey realizes that she shouldn't step on people

Steve:

and act like a giant bee, then promptly forgets her

Steve:

realization. Once again, Eric's heart

Steve:

softens toward his half sister, then promptly

Steve:

hardens again when she acts like a

Steve:

giant bee. Once again, Blair believes

Steve:

Serena when she promises she won't act like a

Steve:

wild slut. And once again,

Steve:

Serena is completely unable to prevent

Steve:

herself. Oh, let's face it. She didn't

Steve:

even really try this time. Like

Steve:

Lily said, they've all been

Steve:

practicing this dance for years now. It's their

Steve:

natural rhythm.

Steve:

Man, Serena could have licked anything in

Steve:

this episode. I was worried she's going to stick a stapler in her mouth

Steve:

at one point.

Leif:

Oh, uh, Rufus in his natural rhythm.

Steve:

Rufus.

Steve:

I loved Rufus in this episode.

Steve:

He's just so out of his element.

Leif:

So before we get into the episode, last

Leif:

week after we recorded, I showed you the promo, the

Leif:

OM M3. Did you have any idea

Leif:

who it was gonna be based on the promo?

Steve:

Uh, no, I didn't.

Leif:

Who did you think it was gonna be?

Steve:

Well, from the promo, they put up a few

Steve:

different options, right? And they put up

Steve:

the. They put Jenny and Nate together.

Steve:

I forget who else was with them.

Steve:

They put.

Leif:

Chuck was there?

Steve:

Yes. Yeah. Yeah, it was Chuck, Nate, and Jenny.

Steve:

There was, I think. Was it Serena, Blair, and

Steve:

Trip?

Leif:

Possibly.

Steve:

And then there was Dan, Olivia,

Steve:

and Vanessa. And I just knew it

Steve:

was going to happen with someone. My

Steve:

inkling, for some reason, was that it was going to

Steve:

be Nate somehow in this.

Steve:

And then once the

Steve:

episode started, I remembered that you had showed me that,

Steve:

and I was like, oh, Robin, you should see the trailer for

Steve:

this episode. And she said, why do I need to watch the trailer?

Steve:

I'm watching the episode. I'm like, okay. And I didn't show

Steve:

it to her, but the whole episode, every

Steve:

time. So the Lost Weekend thing,

Steve:

I'm like, oh, is it. Oh, okay.

Steve:

Is something going to happen here? And. Or. And

Steve:

then the pairing.

Leif:

Well, to be fair, I think they probably did have a threesome off

Leif:

screen.

Steve:

Probably.

Leif:

He probably did, and we'll get into that.

Steve:

Yeah. Um, but they did

Steve:

do a decent

Steve:

job of splitting, uh, people into

Steve:

threes early in the episode.

Steve:

But it quickly became obvious what

Steve:

direction it was going to go when it's like, well, we got to do all the

Steve:

crazy college things we're going to do.

Steve:

Okay. I

Steve:

missed out on my college experience.

Leif:

I guess Act 1

Leif:

begins with a Gossip Girl

Leif:

monologue.

Leif:

Have you been so busy that you've forgotten what time of year it

Leif:

is? Let me give you a hint. Couture,

Leif:

quadrilles and cutthroat competition.

Leif:

That's right. It's time for cotillion.

Leif:

We open the episode with Jenny walking in

Leif:

Manhattan flanked by her minions. It looks like we're getting

Leif:

a, uh, redux of the season one storyline of Jenny looking

Leif:

for that perfect stud. However, this time,

Leif:

she needs an escort for cotillion. Little Jenny is

Leif:

coming out. Jenny rules Constance with an iron

Leif:

fist. But what about the other private schools of Manhattan that

Leif:

will be attending the cotillion?

Steve:

From the start, I hated the premise of

Steve:

Jenny needs to find the perfect man

Steve:

again. M. That we already did

Steve:

this in season one,

Steve:

and now

Steve:

I just found it to be. Again,

Steve:

redundant. And I found it to just

Steve:

be. Why do you need a man? The

Steve:

whole thing about Jenny is that she carries herself

Steve:

and rules with this iron fist. The

Steve:

man shouldn't matter. And I wish, uh, that

Steve:

was the storyline that we were

Steve:

going for, that Jenny is the queen

Steve:

and any man on her arm is

Steve:

eye candy, is just a dressing and

Steve:

doesn't matter. It could be anybody.

Leif:

Well, that's what it kind of was. But it has to be the right

Leif:

accessory. Yeah, but he was just

Leif:

there as an accessory.

Steve:

Yes, but it also had, uh,

Steve:

to be the perfect accessory. I

Steve:

just felt like it took power away from her. I felt like this whole

Steve:

episode, I feel like the premise of

Steve:

looking for a man to declare

Steve:

your power doesn't set

Steve:

with me.

Leif:

To me, it's no different than picking the right

Leif:

dress.

Steve:

I get that. I do get that.

Leif:

And it is just.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Uh, so, uh, that, you know, your version would be a

Leif:

better. Again, a better moral lesson.

Leif:

But this is just a typical

Leif:

cotillion.

Steve:

If I was writing this, they'd all be a couple billion dollars

Steve:

for.

Leif:

At the Empire, Chuck encourages Blair to use

Leif:

cotillion as an opportunity to mend fences with

Leif:

Serena. That's where they also set up the Lost

Leif:

weekend.

Steve:

Yes. And if I remember correctly,

Steve:

the first Lost Weekend, we didn't see Chuck

Steve:

and Nate. I don't think they. I think they were written

Steve:

out of that one. Or is that the Carter Basin?

Leif:

That was the first Carter episode.

Steve:

That was the first Carter Basin episode. I believe there's

Steve:

another Lost Weekend. Is there a Lost Weekend that the two of them are

Steve:

written out of? I feel like there was an

Steve:

episode where we had no Chuck and Nate because they were

Steve:

off.

Leif:

Yeah. Sounds. I think, season two, probably.

Steve:

Yeah, that makes more sense. Uh, but

Steve:

I liked that Lost Weekend is

Steve:

now this established canon, sort of like the

Steve:

other parallels that we see from season

Steve:

to season. I like the Lost

Steve:

Weekend and how that is just the

Steve:

Nate and Chuck Brogue weekend

Steve:

that everybody just. No questions asked. We

Steve:

accept that this is going to happen. And

Steve:

I just really liked it. Yeah.

Leif:

Serena and Tripp flirt in an interview that appears to

Leif:

be just a formality. Serena gets the

Leif:

job and leaves to go plan her cotillion dinner. We

Leif:

find out that Trip was not planning on hiring someone, but

Leif:

specifically asked Serena to interview. My

Leif:

skin was crawling.

Steve:

Oh, my God. First of all, it was a pretty

Steve:

easy interview for this

Steve:

teenage intern that you just

Steve:

hired. Please don't lick the stapler.

Leif:

She's not even in there. She's the media relations

Leif:

person.

Steve:

Yeah. Uh, yeah.

Steve:

That they're not hiring for.

Leif:

Yeah. Not. Yeah.

Steve:

Trip went from being the best

Steve:

Archibald to being the

Steve:

creepiest fucking Archibald. And he has

Steve:

grandfather to contend with. He was

Steve:

so fucking creepy. This

Steve:

whole. And so groomy.

Steve:

And so that. That

Steve:

whole, like, oh, I just can't help myself when you're

Steve:

Around. Oh, my God, you disgusting

Steve:

pervert.

Leif:

Dan and Olivia are at the NYU Cafe

Leif:

with Vanessa. It sounds like Olivia might

Leif:

be making endless nights 4. Even though it has

Leif:

been shown since Olivia's first episode. It seems out of

Leif:

character that Vanessa is such a big fan of these movies.

Steve:

This is the first time that we see the three

Steve:

of the. A, uh, three pair.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

And it is those three that franchise

Steve:

sounds awful.

Leif:

Well, yeah, it's making fun of Twilight.

Steve:

Yes. I love it.

Steve:

Well, it at least sounds a little better

Steve:

than Twilight because it sounds like it's at

Steve:

least like, you know, a fantasy

Steve:

setting, but it still sounds so

Steve:

awful. I loved Vanessa getting into

Steve:

it with the nerds when they all come up and they're

Steve:

blaming Dan and she's like, you don't honestly

Steve:

think that they could take the.

Steve:

I really liked that.

Leif:

I could see Vanessa being, uh, having it as

Leif:

a guilty pleasure, but I just don't see a person like

Leif:

Vanessa bragging about liking Endless Nights. She's

Leif:

way too pretentious.

Steve:

She is. And especially if you compare it

Steve:

to Twilight. And Twilight's an

Steve:

awful book. I don't know. Have you

Steve:

read the Twilight books?

Leif:

No. I saw the first

Leif:

movie and I was out.

Steve:

Yeah. In the fading days of my first

Steve:

marriage, my ex wife read the

Steve:

Twilight series and was obsessed. And I was like,

Steve:

oh, you know what? It's getting all these young

Steve:

kids to read, especially young girls.

Steve:

It was sucking them into the hobby of

Steve:

reading. So I thought, okay, I'm going to read this

Steve:

book. I read the first

Steve:

two. When I handed the second one

Steve:

back to her, I said, if you have me read another one of

Steve:

these, I'm going to use my red pen

Steve:

as, uh, my. My English teacher red pen.

Steve:

I'm going to rip whole pages out

Steve:

and hand you back a better version. Because

Steve:

these books are so

Steve:

awfully written. The

Steve:

writing is

Steve:

terrible. The setting is

Steve:

good. Certain other elements

Steve:

are. Literary elements are present

Steve:

and good, but for the most part, the

Steve:

storytelling is

Steve:

awful and the writing is

Steve:

awful. I hated that

Steve:

book. I thought the movies

Steve:

were better than the books and the movies

Steve:

were terrible. I thought the movies were like, well, this

Steve:

is the best we can do with what we were given.

Steve:

They were better.

Leif:

Uh, that tracks.

Steve:

Yeah. They were better than the

Steve:

books that were terrible.

Steve:

And I've only seen the first two because I also was not going

Steve:

to put myself through any more of that

Steve:

horrendous bullshit

Steve:

at the. We just lost half our viewers, half our

Steve:

listeners.

Leif:

Why does Stephanie Savage quit?

Steve:

Well, if only she would have quit writing.

Leif:

At the debutante rehearsal Jenny is a

Leif:

bit intimidated when Lily informs her that the other

Leif:

girls have been taking lessons for years and

Leif:

that Jenny might be a bit behind. A

Leif:

distracted Jenny doesn't notice a girl trying to say hello

Leif:

to her as she goes for a drink of water.

Steve:

Yeah, I don't like insecure Jenny. I

Steve:

feel like she, uh. Of course, she's

Steve:

always only insecure in private.

Leif:

And this has been a running theme the whole season.

Steve:

It has, it has that she's not comfortable

Steve:

in her position.

Leif:

But this is where we hear about Rufus's natural

Leif:

rhythm.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah.

Leif:

Which I don't know if the writers were going for it to be

Leif:

sound sexual, but Lily. Kelly. Kelly

Leif:

Rutherford definitely made it sound sexual.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah. Yes. And

Steve:

it's funny. And it is funny

Steve:

because it could be very innocent.

Steve:

It is.

Leif:

You know, he is a, um, he is a musician.

Steve:

He's a musician. He has natural rhythm.

Leif:

But we've never seen him dancing. Really.

Steve:

Never? Never once

Steve:

we. Yeah, we've seen him play guitar.

Leif:

Usually sitting down.

Steve:

Usually sitting down. Every,

Steve:

ah, time, um, I walk away Run, uh, away. Take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there.

Leif:

The girl that Jenny ignored is greeted instead by

Leif:

Eric, who announces that he will be her court appointed

Leif:

escort for the night. The girl's name is Kira, and

Leif:

it turns out both she and Eric have inroads with

Leif:

the guy. Jenny has her eyes on Graham

Leif:

Collins. Eric advises Kira to stay out of

Leif:

it, though.

Steve:

Eric, what are you doing?

Leif:

Yeah, I mean, uh, fans still

Leif:

definitive in this episode. I thought he was shit. This episode, he

Leif:

was shitty.

Steve:

This. This is the first.

Leif:

He deserved to get down.

Steve:

Yeah, this is the first time Eric was

Steve:

really shitty. I mean, you teamed up

Steve:

with Blair.

Leif:

Vanessa and Dan are discussing ways to convince Olivia to stay.

Leif:

While Olivia is on the phone, it looks like a list of things to

Leif:

do before you leave. School is just a ticket.

Steve:

She has a much better explanation for

Steve:

why she has to do the movie

Steve:

later on. Right now, when it's.

Steve:

When she's saying, oh, I have to do this movie, it just

Steve:

seems so, like, why don't you

Steve:

have autonomy? But the bigger thing

Steve:

to recognize is that people's careers balance on

Steve:

one person. A lot of times

Steve:

in Hollywood that if she

Steve:

says no to this, hundreds of people are out of

Steve:

work.

Leif:

I'm, uh, wearing a Garcia handpicked

Leif:

shirt right now. And that is

Leif:

somewhat of the story of Jerry Garcia.

Leif:

He really would have liked to quit the Grateful

Leif:

Dead.

Steve:

Oh, yeah.

Leif:

It could have saved his life. But there's just so

Leif:

many people and families and everything depended

Leif:

on the whole business. Of the Grateful Dead.

Steve:

Yes. Yeah. Such a good point.

Steve:

That, that. That it ended up driving him to the.

Steve:

To the ground. Yeah. Uh, and he

Steve:

had his outlets, like the Jerry Garcia

Steve:

project, to try to at

Steve:

times at least get that vacation. Mhm.

Steve:

But yeah, you're right. That I remember

Steve:

reading about the Europe 72 tour when

Steve:

they're like, well, who do we take with

Steve:

us for this tour? And Jerry's like,

Steve:

everyone. They're all part of the family and they

Steve:

all need to be part of this.

Steve:

So he was so,

Steve:

so oriented around keeping everybody fed

Steve:

in his circle. And it is that

Steve:

same sort of thing here.

Leif:

Uh, getting back to this, uh, the

Leif:

prefab list here. Do we think

Leif:

there's a chance that Vanessa planned this whole

Leif:

thing? Because she's the one that had it,

Leif:

like, ready to go. She pulled it right out.

Steve:

Yep. And

Steve:

there has been the building tension with her

Steve:

and Dan that they

Steve:

shucked off at the one point

Steve:

a few episodes ago when, uh,

Steve:

Georgina was trying to break them up.

Leif:

But everyone was very quick to believe Vanessa was in love with

Leif:

Dan.

Steve:

Yes. Yes. Yeah, I

Steve:

mean, the way Eric and Jenny were like, oh, because she's in love with

Steve:

you.

Leif:

Of course. As a matter of fact,

Leif:

Eric catches Jenny practicing out of the view of her

Leif:

peers. The two share a moment, and Eric convinces

Leif:

Jenny to take Jonathan as her escort. Jenny

Leif:

walks off, and Eric reads an incoming text from Graham Collins

Leif:

asking Jenny if she still needs an escort. Eric

Leif:

replies back that she already has one. And Gossip

Leif:

Girl takes us to the first act break with.

Steve:

Uh.

Leif:

In the complicated world of, ah, debutante balls, one

Leif:

must choose her dance partner wisely. You never know when

Leif:

a hand on a hip can lead to a knife in the back.

Steve:

Jenny trying to do the dance alone

Steve:

just looked silly and

Steve:

completely arrhythmic. She

Steve:

didn't have that rhythm, which I thought was

Steve:

really strange just for Taylor.

Leif:

I think it fit for her

Leif:

age and her body type because

Leif:

she's definitely grown.

Steve:

Yeah. And she's kind of grown awkwardly.

Leif:

Yeah. She's definitely gagged up.

Steve:

Yes. And she's tall and, you know.

Leif:

Teenagers.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Ah, I've definitely been around plenty of teenagers in that

Leif:

tie point. They're, uh, just kind of.

Leif:

They don't know how their body works right now. Yeah, they're not used to it yet.

Steve:

Yeah, exactly.

Steve:

And, uh, like we said, she had that big growth

Steve:

spurt between

Steve:

sometime during season two. I'd say that she just kind of

Steve:

shot up. And now she

Steve:

towers over a lot of the other women,

Steve:

except for Serena.

Leif:

Yeah. Serena and Kelly basically

Leif:

Uh, as we see in that opening

Leif:

scene there, one of the guys they were trying to

Leif:

offer up who was a foot shorter than her.

Steve:

M. Yeah.

Leif:

We move into Act 2. At the

Leif:

party, Serena and Blair come face to face,

Leif:

and neither is willing to budge on apologizing first.

Leif:

Instead, they fight over who gets to mentor Jenny.

Leif:

Jenny doesn't want to be in the middle of their war. And

Leif:

then Serena feigns Grace by ceding the mentorship

Leif:

to Blair because she works for Trip Vanderbilt

Leif:

now and is above all this high school stuff.

Steve:

Yeah. I'm gonna stop doing this party that I do every

Steve:

year and go to work right now

Steve:

at nine. Uh, o'clock at night.

Leif:

Yeah. Serena, I agree. You should be above

Leif:

this high school stuff. I don't think you are.

Steve:

I don't think you are.

Leif:

I don't think you are.

Steve:

She's. She's that person. Blair's that person

Steve:

that's, like, doing the high school stuff.

Steve:

Serena's that person. It's like, I'm so sick of this high

Steve:

school stuff.

Leif:

I'm only doing it for my mom.

Steve:

I'm only doing it for my mom. Yeah.

Leif:

Jonathan isn't really interested in forgiving Jenny,

Leif:

but Eric convinces him that they can still stop Jenny from

Leif:

becoming Darth Vader to her. Anakin.

Steve:

Yeah. He brings in the Star wars

Steve:

reference to woo Jonathan, which I

Steve:

appreciated.

Leif:

And yeah, you lied to your

Leif:

boyfriend. She was not excited about this.

Steve:

Not at all. I also,

Steve:

I need to tick back to the previous thing

Steve:

because of one of Blair's best comments

Steve:

of cotillion is not like weddings.

Steve:

You only get one. This only

Steve:

happens once.

Steve:

Sorry. But yeah, then he uses Star

Steve:

wars to woo Jonathan and lies to

Steve:

Jonathan because he's trying to, like, protect

Steve:

Jenny from this other guy that he's willing to set someone

Steve:

else up with. Eric, what is up with you,

Steve:

Eric?

Leif:

Not a good episode for Eric.

Steve:

Not a good episode for Eric.

Leif:

Serena shows up to bring Trip a late

Leif:

dinner. Sparks are starting to fly when they are

Leif:

thankfully interrupted by someone on the staff. The

Leif:

interruption causes Trip to realize where things were headed

Leif:

and asked Serena to come back on Monday where she will be

Leif:

reporting to someone else in the office.

Steve:

Thought she was going to lick his tie. At one point,

Steve:

the tie came in to K that.

Steve:

Serena, what the fuck are you doing?

Steve:

And you, Trip,

Steve:

what are you thinking?

Steve:

This is. You're. You're supposed to

Steve:

be the noble, upright politician and you're in office

Steve:

for five minutes and you're like, well, uh,

Steve:

where can I find myself an intern?

Steve:

Where can I find myself a Nice young

Steve:

teenager to work on my staff.

Steve:

Sorry. My Kennedy is pretty terrible.

Leif:

But back at the party,

Leif:

Kira introduces herself to Jenny and lets her

Leif:

know about Graham texting Jenny earlier.

Leif:

Jenny goes after Eric, and Jonathan

Leif:

immediately becomes disgusted and leaves.

Leif:

Jenny then takes out her samurai sword and

Leif:

metaphorically guts both Eric and Blair in front of

Leif:

the whole party. Jenny stalks off in

Leif:

triumph. And it looks like a new trio of Eric,

Leif:

Blair, and Kira has formed. Gossip Girl

Leif:

has this to say.

Leif:

Uh, oh, little J, you stepped on Eric's

Leif:

toes too many times. Now he's found a new

Leif:

partner. Who knows what would happen when these two start to

Leif:

tango.

Steve:

First of all, Kira looks and dresses

Steve:

like a little girl. She looks

Steve:

young, like, tiny.

Leif:

Well, I think she's probably the actual age of the characters,

Leif:

possibly, which Jenny is too.

Steve:

But Jenny looks older.

Leif:

Yeah, she's tall.

Steve:

She. She got tall and looks older. I. I think

Steve:

that a big reason Jenny was cast was because she's so

Steve:

perfectly fit. The teenage girl that she

Steve:

was then she grew up, and everyone's like,

Steve:

what do we do? But. Well, of course, she also

Steve:

kind of.

Leif:

I think they. The makeup ages her as well.

Steve:

Yes.

Leif:

Yeah. The last episode when she was quote, unquote sick,

Leif:

she looked younger.

Steve:

Yeah. I also

Steve:

wanted. When she dismisses,

Steve:

uh, Blair and

Steve:

takes a shot at the headband too,

Steve:

it was like, oh, Blair, I thought we already were. We

Steve:

thought we already learned about this Blair. But now

Steve:

the high school kids are shooting at you.

Leif:

She just. She slayed the scene.

Steve:

Oh.

Leif:

And we go into Act 3.

Leif:

Blair comes back to the Empire to find Chuck sipping

Leif:

coffee amongst the ruins of the lost weekend.

Leif:

After advising on lingerie removal techniques,

Leif:

Blair goes into the bedroom to grab a dress.

Leif:

Both Chuck and Nate notice something is off with Blair, and

Leif:

Chuck swipes Blair's phone.

Steve:

Only time I've seen her this calm was

Steve:

when Serena left,

Steve:

which we know was the pinnacle of

Steve:

the Blair Serena

Steve:

meltdown. I thought that

Steve:

was so great, because Blair comes in.

Steve:

Blair knows it's the Lost weekend. She knows that

Steve:

she doesn't get to. That she's

Steve:

not supposed to be there, that she's not at her. In

Steve:

her place. She just comes in to get a few

Steve:

things, does not get mad about the

Steve:

woman wearing her lingerie.

Steve:

She compartmentalizes.

Leif:

See, I think that's what to do with the Lost weekend. I think normally

Leif:

she would have been pissed off here. That's why they

Leif:

noticed that something was off, because she was not pissed off.

Steve:

Uh, right. That's what I'm saying is that, like, she

Steve:

saw that she got into the lost weekend, saw

Steve:

the things that would have made her mad.

Leif:

But I had nothing to do with accepting that this is the lost weekend.

Steve:

No, I get what you're saying. That it's all

Steve:

that calm from being mad at Serena, which

Steve:

they don't even know is also she's mad at. She's

Steve:

mad at little J too. I.

Steve:

Yeah, I completely get what you're saying. My point

Steve:

is just that Blair walking into the lost weekend,

Steve:

almost like she's not paying attention

Steve:

to anything that's going on. Notices

Steve:

the. The person in her lingerie, but

Steve:

compartmentalizes that because she has more important things to be mad

Steve:

about and moves on. I

Steve:

just. I loved this scene. And I love

Steve:

Nate and Chuck being best

Steve:

friends. Accepting that they both at one

Steve:

point love the same woman and know her that

Steve:

well. And I love it.

Leif:

I do like that Blair trust. Has total trust in

Leif:

Chuck, which I do believe. In this case, he was not sleeping with those

Leif:

presumably prostitutes.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

And I presuming they are prostitutes because I

Leif:

think think that normal non

Leif:

sex workers probably not be too

Leif:

keen on wearing someone else's underwear that they

Leif:

don't even know.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah.

Leif:

But I guess it's part of the job if you're a sex

Leif:

worker.

Steve:

Yeah, could be.

Leif:

Yeah. Uh, and

Leif:

in real life, I wonder how much they paid the woman who just

Leif:

laid on the couch passed out in underwear the whole scene.

Leif:

How much do you think she got paid?

Steve:

Do you think Nate

Steve:

requested her to wear

Steve:

Blair's

Steve:

lingerie?

Leif:

Uh, that's pretty fucked up.

Leif:

No, I think I have a feeling Chuck just

Leif:

brought.

Steve:

Just throw that on. Just throw this on.

Leif:

At the office, Trip is now being distant from Serena,

Leif:

who picks up on it. Serena is rightfully confused.

Leif:

And Trip admits to feelings of attraction.

Leif:

Serena is saved by the bell when she gets an

Leif:

apologetic text from Blair. Of course we know Chuck

Leif:

has Blair's phone. And then Serena brushes off Trip's

Leif:

declaration and makes a quick exit.

Steve:

I don't even know where to begin. Trip, you are

Steve:

such a fucking creeper. The only reason to

Steve:

say any of this shit out

Steve:

loud is to test the waters.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

And to set it up and to groom her.

Steve:

It is not innocent. It is

Steve:

not. Oh, I can't be around you.

Steve:

Because you can if you are a fucking

Steve:

grown up. You can be around

Steve:

women who are beautiful

Steve:

and not sexually

Steve:

harass them. It is. It's

Steve:

actually quite easy. I've. I've

Steve:

worked in many jobs with many beautiful

Steve:

women that I did not try to

Steve:

fuck.

Leif:

I think the problem here is that Tripp hired Her specifically to

Leif:

flirt with her.

Steve:

Yeah, he hired her because he wanted to flirt with her. And then when she started

Steve:

flirting back and he's like, oh, this could be a really bad

Steve:

idea. But it. But I don't.

Steve:

But if he really thought it was a bad idea, he would have been like,

Steve:

you're fired.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

But he wants her there because he's a creep.

Leif:

Indeed. Blair is mentoring Kira

Leif:

on how to take down Jenny and become queen. We get

Leif:

a montage of the devs prepping for cotillion

Leif:

set to the questions and panthers by one for the

Leif:

team. Gossip Girl chimes in

Leif:

with.

Leif:

We hear Jenny Humphrey has landed Graham Collins as her

Leif:

escort. Better put on that lip gloss,

Leif:

ladies. Looks like you'll be kissing Jenny

Leif:

Humphrey's ring by the end of the night.

Leif:

And we get another montage. This one the

Leif:

classic college party, complete with keg

Leif:

stands. Dan and Vanessa are doing

Leif:

shots with Olivia, and Olivia steps away to

Leif:

take a call. Dan's credit score is threatened by

Leif:

the masters of the universe fake up for keeping Olivia from taking the

Leif:

movie. However, Olivia comes back and says

Leif:

she has to take the movie.

Steve:

And this is where when she says she has to take

Steve:

it, she makes it make more sense that she

Steve:

actually says, people's jobs

Steve:

depend on me doing this. And

Steve:

that's a fair argument, if you ask

Steve:

me. I can come. I can finish this semester

Steve:

online and come back next semester

Steve:

and. Or next year

Steve:

whenever the movie's finished.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

But, yeah, you kind of have to do

Steve:

this. Also, there's a scene here where we

Steve:

have Dan and Vanessa alone kind

Steve:

of dancing, which. It's like

Steve:

on the rewatch.

Leif:

I was like, uh, uh, you mentioned the

Leif:

dancing. This is the season of Memeable Dan

Leif:

Humphrey because we had a couple episodes. The

Leif:

typing on the newspaper stand, and

Leif:

then this episode, this dancing, this

Leif:

little goofy dance there. It's definitely been.

Leif:

I've seen that around quite a bit in gif

Leif:

form. Blair has completed

Leif:

her makeover of young Kira, and Eric presents

Leif:

her escort, none other than Graham Collins.

Leif:

Wait, wasn't he going with Jenny? Gossip

Leif:

Girl quips on the subject.

Leif:

Uh, spin your partner round and round.

Leif:

Looks like little J is going down.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

So we find out what the scheme is here.

Steve:

Yeah. And Blair and Eric. We have baby's first

Steve:

scheme with Eric. Is this Eric's first

Steve:

scheme?

Leif:

I'm sure it can't be.

Steve:

I don't think. I can't think of any other scheme.

Leif:

That he's participated

Leif:

in, but we move into Act

Leif:

4. Nate walks into cotillion

Leif:

dressed like James Bond. And draws a few

Leif:

stairs. Jenny walks in with Lily and

Leif:

Rufus. Rufus and Lily. Tell Jenny she looks

Leif:

beautiful and wish her luck.

Steve:

I appreciated the appropriate use

Steve:

of Lilfas in this episode.

Steve:

Once again, two in a row that Rufus and Lily

Steve:

are just being parents.

Leif:

I don't think that's going to continue based on the final scene of this

Leif:

episode.

Leif:

But why is Nate at

Leif:

this party? Serena and Blair at least have the

Leif:

semi legitimate excuse that they are mentors. Yeah,

Leif:

Nate, you just spent the last night getting trash and partying

Leif:

with prostitutes. Why are you at a high school party?

Steve:

Why are you here? Date?

Leif:

Guess it just runs in the family.

Steve:

Yeah. Yep.

Steve:

I'm just looking for someone to groom.

Steve:

Oh, good for you. Oh,

Steve:

well done, chap.

Leif:

Nate asked Jenny if she has seen Blair.

Leif:

She hasn't. She is looking for Graham.

Leif:

Nate also wishes her luck.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Blair is giving Kira some last minute dance

Leif:

lessons. Nate interrupts and hands Blair an invite

Leif:

with Anna key to a private lounge, courtesy of

Leif:

Chuck. Eric, in his hubris, says he and

Leif:

Kira have it under control and that Blair should go.

Leif:

Eric admits that he blackmailed Graham into ditching

Leif:

Jenny for Kira. Yeah, so it could be

Leif:

something else here, but I think it's sort of implied

Leif:

that Eric and Graham fooled around.

Leif:

It could be something else.

Steve:

Oh. Oh my God. I can't believe I

Steve:

missed that.

Leif:

So, uh, is this another guy that.

Steve:

Eric has been with? Another he's gone for?

Steve:

Eric has plowed his way through

Steve:

like the elite men of the Upper

Steve:

east side.

Steve:

Eric is your like. I'll help you find out,

Steve:

buddy. Yeah. What

Steve:

happens at stay away camp?

Leif:

Doesn't stay away from Camp Suisse. And again,

Leif:

we're mentioned at Camp Suisse.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah.

Leif:

What's going down at Camp Suisse?

Leif:

Eric and

Leif:

Serena. Serena on camp

Leif:

counselors.

Steve:

Has Eric slept with Aaron?

Leif:

Uh, at the NYU

Leif:

party, Olivia says she wants to continue dating

Leif:

Dan long distance. While she is filming the movie,

Leif:

the three friends decide to take the party back to the

Leif:

loft. She really liked those, uh, sushi

Leif:

puns.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

But yeah, she is really self sabotaging

Leif:

herself here.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah.

Leif:

Blair arrives upstairs to find Chuck set, uh,

Leif:

both her and Serena up. They both

Leif:

scoff and get onto the elevator to leave. However,

Leif:

the elevator gets stuck and Chuck is on the other end of the emergency

Leif:

line. Chuck has left them with some single malt

Leif:

scotch and macaroons, but they are stuck until they can

Leif:

work things out.

Steve:

I love that Chuck did this. Chuck has been trying

Steve:

to fix this for two episodes now. He doesn't

Steve:

want them fighting. He knows they're both better when they

Steve:

have each other. I also help. I'm

Steve:

stuck in the elevator with someone who sucks all the air out of the room.

Steve:

And if you don't come to me soon, I might die.

Leif:

At Cotillion, the debs are making their debut.

Leif:

Kira is escorted by Graham, and Jenny is left

Leif:

hanging at the gallows. Gossip Girl tightens the

Leif:

noose.

Leif:

Jenny Humphrey went to a ball. Jenny

Leif:

Humphrey had a great fall, and none of her

Leif:

minions, mentors, or friends want to put

Leif:

Jenny together again.

Steve:

Jenny's caught without a plan, and

Steve:

Jenny plays better from

Steve:

behind. Whenever she's

Steve:

caught, she has that moment of panic

Steve:

and then thinks it through, finds her plan

Steve:

and executes. And that

Steve:

moment of panic I felt lingered a little longer in this one

Steve:

than usual. But Jenny plays better

Steve:

from behind. Jenny plays better when

Steve:

she's on her heels and has to

Steve:

gain ground. I feel like that's part of why

Steve:

she struggles so much at the top

Steve:

that she's there. And now she's

Steve:

constantly looking for the battle.

Leif:

We go into Act 5. The plasticines are

Leif:

performing their song Bitch on stage at

Leif:

Cotillion. Jenny is floundering and searching for

Leif:

Blair, who she thinks is solely to blame for

Leif:

her humiliation. Eric advises that she should

Leif:

just let it go. But it looks like Jenny has other

Leif:

plans in mind. She calls someone and asks if

Leif:

they are still there.

Steve:

I love Rufus. Just not getting it.

Steve:

Like Rufus just, well, why don't you get someone else there,

Steve:

sweetie? And again, I just felt like

Steve:

Rufus really played well in this

Steve:

episode. Also Eric

Steve:

being manipulative. Eric blackmailing people.

Leif:

Eric and not even having the balls to admit that

Leif:

he did it.

Steve:

And not even. Yeah, not even owning up to it did.

Steve:

Uh, to Jenny.

Steve:

Bad look, Eric.

Leif:

In the elevator, Serena reveals that she found

Leif:

her father, but he wouldn't see her. The ladies

Leif:

finally make up, and Blair advises Serena to stay away

Leif:

from Trip.

Steve:

Good idea.

Leif:

Yeah. Chuck chimes in with a lurid remark

Leif:

about. After having creepily listened to the whole.

Steve:

Conversation, we always talk about best

Steve:

friend moments. That this was another

Steve:

really great working it out. The

Steve:

best friends having that moment stuck in

Steve:

an elevator, understanding each other,

Steve:

giving each other the advice. I really

Steve:

loved it. I also really loved

Steve:

that glimmer of old Chuck

Steve:

because of how much Chuck has kind of grown up this

Steve:

season and tends to be a

Steve:

little less Louis. I

Steve:

guess to have him then throw in his

Steve:

old creepiness. It felt

Steve:

nostalgic, I guess.

Steve:

It felt so Char, you know, if you guys want to kiss and

Steve:

make up. And honestly, I can't say that it's not something

Steve:

I wouldn't say honestly, in certain

Steve:

situations to Robin. If it was Robin and one

Steve:

of her friends, I'm sure I would say something like that.

Steve:

And she would tell me I'm disgusting.

Leif:

At the loft, Olivia finds out that their night of

Leif:

fun has been guided by a pre planned list.

Leif:

They only did 14 out of 15 things on the list, and

Leif:

Olivia finds that unacceptable. She

Leif:

grabs the list from Dan and sees what is missing.

Leif:

Oh, my. It's a threesome.

Leif:

Olivia pushes in and everybody

Leif:

kisses everybody.

Leif:

This is where I was talking about how Olivia is self sabotaging.

Steve:

Mm m. First of all, she.

Leif:

She really pushed that. She's the one that definitely pushed this. Oh, yeah.

Steve:

The. The. The. Yes. This threesome is because

Steve:

Olivia made it happen.

Leif:

I know you. You know, you trust your boyfriend, but I mean,

Leif:

you're about to go a long distance and you.

Leif:

The night before you leave, you're gonna hook up with him

Leif:

and his best friend who they have history.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Not. Not a good move.

Steve:

No, no, no. I

Steve:

also.

Steve:

Oh, Dan and Vanessa just Robin and

Steve:

I for days. This afterwards, we'd

Steve:

just be driving down the road. Oh, you remember when

Steve:

Vanessa and Dan had that threesome?

Leif:

Oh, uh, I do love

Leif:

Dan's smirk when Olivia

Leif:

Vanessa kiss. I don't know if he caught that. He

Leif:

has a little smirk on. He's like, this is the best

Leif:

thing that ever happened.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah. I mean. I mean, if I. Uh.

Steve:

Yeah. But yeah. Lizzie mc three

Steve:

way in here. Forcing this

Steve:

whole thing to happen.

Leif:

Serena and Blair arrive in the ballroom just in

Leif:

time for Jenny's plan to come to fruition.

Leif:

Jenny is escorted by none other than Nate

Leif:

Archibald, which is of course, epic.

Leif:

Even Blair shows Jenny some

Leif:

admiration. However, there is one person that

Leif:

isn't happy that Jenny has triumphed and that it's

Leif:

Eric. Since all eyes are on Jenny,

Leif:

only the all seeing Gossip Girl seems to notice

Leif:

and has this to say.

Leif:

O e you tried to play dirty at the

Leif:

dance, but you should know nobody puts

Leif:

Jenny in a corner now. She's having the

Leif:

time of her life.

Steve:

First of all, when Rufus is like, why don't you just find someone

Steve:

else? She's like, it doesn't work that way, dad.

Steve:

Oh, but unless it does.

Leif:

But unless it's a college guy.

Steve:

Yeah, unless it's a college guy. And then I can make it

Steve:

work and again, score.

Steve:

The best guy to be queen is

Steve:

so problematic.

Steve:

I get it in the context of

Steve:

the show. I get it in the morality

Steve:

of the universe we are watching, but it is

Steve:

fingernails on the chalkboard of my soul.

Leif:

Just think of it as another accessory.

Steve:

And, uh, I just think of my daughter,

Steve:

who I would

Steve:

die if she had that mentality of

Steve:

like, oh, I need a guy. Where my daughter is very much

Steve:

like. One of my favorite stories was when

Steve:

she was in elementary school and a boy was trying to

Steve:

flirt with her and said, hey, you can copy off my work.

Steve:

And she turns to him and goes, um, I get better grades

Steve:

than you do. That's.

Steve:

And, yeah,

Steve:

Jenny.

Leif:

The only time she's pursued a guy for

Leif:

herself was Nate. Both in season one and now

Leif:

in season three. She is just looking for an

Leif:

accessory.

Steve:

Yes. Yes.

Leif:

She doesn't really care who it is, and

Leif:

as long as it's the right image.

Steve:

Yeah, yeah. She doesn't care about who they

Steve:

are, their sexuality,

Steve:

sexual orientation.

Leif:

She just wants to create the perfect image.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Which is what being a debutante is all about. So.

Steve:

It is.

Leif:

I mean, if you're going to ignore the whole fact that

Leif:

debutante.

Steve:

Debutante is a. Is. Is

Steve:

a. Yes. Is a

Steve:

feminist.

Leif:

Yeah. It's kind of. It's kind of hard to get up on my high horse about

Leif:

her needing the right guy.

Steve:

Yeah. Okay. That is cotillion in

Steve:

general. Is.

Leif:

Yeah. So if you're gonna accept cotillion as

Leif:

a plot line, you know, you just kind of gotta roll with it.

Steve:

Yeah. Um, I'm on. I got. I got

Steve:

it.

Leif:

So we go into the epilogue. The Plasticines are still

Leif:

performing. This time, they are playing a slower number. I

Leif:

am down. Tonight, Jenny is dancing with

Leif:

Nate and thanks him for saving her. Yet again,

Leif:

Serena and Blair congratulate Jenny in their own different

Leif:

ways. The minions tell Jenny that the other queens

Leif:

are ready to pay their respects.

Steve:

I can't remember 100% for sure,

Steve:

but if I remember correctly, that second song

Steve:

they played was not

Steve:

in three quarter

Steve:

time. It wasn't Walt's time. Whereas

Steve:

the dance that they learn is a

Steve:

waltz. The season one

Steve:

cotillion, when you have the Pretty Little

Steve:

liars theme, it's in 3, 4.

Steve:

And I don't think this one was. I think that

Steve:

they just kind of ignored that

Steve:

this whole cotillion. Remember, the first one is

Steve:

on this grand staircase at a hotel, and this

Steve:

one's, like, on a stage at the local rec

Steve:

center.

Leif:

Well, no, this is at the Empire Hotel.

Steve:

Oh, was it okay? Uh, it

Steve:

seemed less glamorous.

Leif:

Well, I think it was less formal, but I would say it's

Leif:

more Jenny style, if

Leif:

anything.

Steve:

Yeah, yeah.

Leif:

You got the punk rock band going. Yeah.

Steve:

Yes, it was much more Jenny's cotillion

Steve:

than Blair's cotillion.

Leif:

Yeah, for sure.

Steve:

And.

Leif:

And Jenny is now the Queen of

Leif:

Queens. I also should have got a, uh,

Leif:

Motorhead out there.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

Bow down to the.

Leif:

Bow down to the. Bow down

Leif:

to the queen.

Steve:

Fucking love Motorhead so much.

Steve:

I also. The way that

Steve:

Blair and Jenny make up,

Steve:

also how it's like, well, I learned from the best.

Steve:

Good answer. And how Blair. It just really

Steve:

shows that Blair's whole thing with Jenny, this

Steve:

episode was not Jenny. Uh, she

Steve:

wasn't trying to get at Jenny.

Leif:

She.

Steve:

Even when she corners Kira earlier on

Steve:

is like. And then she's just going to do the Serena stuff. You mean

Steve:

Jenny. Details aren't important.

Steve:

And so here we have those

Steve:

two made up again.

Leif:

And I also think Blair realized that she really doesn't care

Leif:

about this anymore.

Steve:

Yeah. Yes. That she does

Steve:

recognize that this is kid shit.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

And she has her best friend back. And I, uh,

Steve:

also just appreciate this about Jenny and Blair

Steve:

in general, that they have this

Steve:

frenemy sort of relationship.

Leif:

Serena and Blair are going to get something to eat right

Leif:

after Serena turns in her resignation. And while

Leif:

it's probably the right choice, Serena is m. Really

Leif:

making a habit of quitting things this season.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Third time she's quit something already. Season.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Not even halfway over.

Steve:

Yeah, but she doesn't actually. She's just going. Says she's going to

Steve:

quit.

Leif:

Yeah, true. I guess she doesn't actually quit.

Steve:

She doesn't actually quit this. She was going to quit her.

Leif:

You're right.

Steve:

Her third job of the season, Jonathan.

Leif:

Shows up the ball, only to promptly dump Eric

Leif:

because Eric has changed.

Steve:

Jonathan, this is your fault.

Steve:

Jonathan. You are the one that decided I'm

Steve:

going to challenge Jenny and sit on a higher step.

Steve:

In a previous episode, you started the

Steve:

bullshit with Jenny because you didn't like

Steve:

it when Eric was just going with the

Steve:

flow. And then you kind of prompted

Steve:

Eric to go against Jenny.

Steve:

And then when he goes against Jenny, you're like, I don't

Steve:

like you anymore.

Leif:

And also, he claims to be above the drama. Why are you reading

Leif:

Gossip Girl?

Steve:

Yeah, why are you reading Gossip Girl if you're above the drama?

Steve:

The other. There is one other Eric scheme, and it's

Steve:

all off camera. And it's the Jonathan

Steve:

Eric trying figure out who Gossip Girl

Steve:

is. Yeah, but that's even more Jonathan. But also,

Steve:

fuck you, Jonathan. Eric's too

Steve:

good for you. He's having a moment. But Eric in general, unless

Steve:

this trend. Unless Eric stays on this

Steve:

trend. Fuck you, Jonathan. Yeah,

Steve:

Eric can do better. Eric.

Leif:

And Jonathan's also cheating in season one.

Steve:

Jonathan was cheating in season one. And

Steve:

Eric can pretty much land any dude on the Upper

Steve:

east side as.

Leif:

Long as it's on the DL.

Steve:

As long as it's on the DL. Yeah.

Leif:

Um. He wants to be out of the closet.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Blair is dancing with Chuck and says his punishment

Leif:

for scheming against her is a night without her.

Steve:

Yeah, that. It was sweet. Yeah, it

Steve:

was a sweet makeup scene and a sweet.

Leif:

And if you ever let my lingerie again, prepare

Leif:

to see me in a lot of flannel.

Leif:

Jenny is still oblivious to Eric's involvement.

Leif:

Invites him to come to the after party with her

Leif:

and friends. Eric fights back his rage to

Leif:

politely decline and Jenny then mean mugs

Leif:

Kira before giving her the old shoulder check.

Leif:

Eric and Kira seem more determined than ever to take Jenny

Leif:

down.

Steve:

Honestly, I don't think

Steve:

Jenny would have been mad

Steve:

at Eric for scheming against her when

Steve:

they met up at the end. Because

Steve:

Jenny is so quick to compartmentalize

Steve:

and so quick to be like, this is part

Steve:

of being queen and the shitty stuff that goes

Steve:

along with that. And this is being my

Steve:

friend that she on many

Steve:

occasions is just like, well, come on, Eric, we're just

Steve:

friends. Right? Like, this is. It's not queen stuff,

Steve:

it's friend sibling stuff.

Steve:

And I don't know for sure that she wouldn't care,

Steve:

but I think that Jenny

Steve:

respects game like the way she was with Blair at the

Steve:

end. She knew it was Blair and she was

Steve:

instantly like, no, we're cool.

Leif:

The only fight back I would have is that earlier in

Leif:

the episode she was upset at Erryk for hiding that he knew

Leif:

Graham.

Steve:

You're right, she was upset. But

Steve:

once she wins is when I feel like she.

Steve:

I think she would have been, oh, you made that harder for me. But I don't

Steve:

think she would have been mad

Steve:

because she won because I

Steve:

believe that she really sees the game

Steve:

as.

Leif:

I don't think she would have invited him, though.

Steve:

Maybe not. Maybe not. Uh, she

Steve:

should have invited Kiera. Kira. Kira's whole thing

Steve:

was she just wanted to be Jenny's friend and.

Leif:

But.

Steve:

Yeah, but Jenny just.

Leif:

She let herself be used as a pawn against Jenny.

Steve:

Yeah. Uh, and now.

Leif:

And, you know, have some pawns.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Poor Kira.

Steve:

She, uh. I don't think. Now are

Steve:

we going to see Kira and Eric plotting further

Steve:

or is she done and we just had set up.

Leif:

That's. That's. Here's what it looks like.

Steve:

Yeah. Well, I don't know if she's another Scott. That we have this whole

Steve:

cliffhanger. You're going to be a part of our

Steve:

family forever.

Leif:

Gossip Girl begins. Some people

Leif:

think that when the party ends, the night is over.

Leif:

But I've found it's when the music stops

Leif:

and the lights come up that the real trouble

Leif:

begins. We transition to Trip's

Leif:

office, and Serena tries to quit, but

Leif:

Trip convinces her to stay. They agree to stay

Leif:

friendly and professional, but their handshake

Leif:

definitely lingers. Blair tries to get

Leif:

Serena to leave, but Serena blows her off.

Steve:

All of this first. Why the fuck

Steve:

wasn't this an email sent tomorrow?

Steve:

Why did you go directly to the office at

Steve:

night when no one should fucking be there

Steve:

anymore? And then the whole

Steve:

conversation is completely unprofessional.

Steve:

And then Blair gives you an out, and you're like,

Steve:

no, it's fine. No, it's fine. We're definitely not gonna

Steve:

bone. See you tomorrow, best friend who came here to hang out with

Steve:

me tonight. Yeah, like,

Steve:

you fucking, like, why not just. Okay,

Steve:

yes, I'll steal. Still work here. I'm gonna go out with my

Steve:

friend. Who is gonna be where. I'm not

Steve:

having sex with you. Fucking stupid.

Leif:

Lily and Rufus are back at the penthouse, and Lily

Leif:

does the whole explain it like I'm, um, five cotillion

Leif:

edition. Rufus thanks Lily for getting

Leif:

the society to let Jenny in. However, Lily

Leif:

has something to sign for. Before she joins Rufus in bed,

Leif:

Lily finds a letter from Dr.

Leif:

Daddy addressed to Serena.

Steve:

I thought that was interesting that he's

Steve:

finally reached out.

Steve:

I hope Lily gives the letter

Steve:

to Serena, but I'm not optimistic. And

Steve:

it makes me wonder if there have been other

Steve:

communications that Serena hasn't

Steve:

seen.

Leif:

And, uh, then we move to the final scene of the episode.

Leif:

We see a shirtless Dan sleeping between

Leif:

Olivia and Vanessa. Olivia has an unread text

Leif:

message from Casey stating that the movie is canceled.

Leif:

Gossip Girl brings us home with you.

Leif:

Better get your beauty rest now, because it looks like

Leif:

things could get ugly in the morning.

Steve:

I mean, just be a throuple. Just be a throuple.

Steve:

Just end the jealousy.

Leif:

That's all we'll get.

Steve:

Polyamory. Hey, you know

Steve:

what? I'd be down for that, uh,

Steve:

better polyamory take than the last one. They kind of

Steve:

did.

Leif:

But the full final quote from

Leif:

Gossip Girl is,

Leif:

some people think that when the party ends,

Leif:

night is over. But I found when the music

Leif:

stops and the lights come up, that the real trouble

Leif:

begins. You better get your beauty rest now, because it

Leif:

looks like things could get ugly in the morning.

Leif:

Xo, xo Gossip

Leif:

Girl. What's coming

Leif:

next?

Steve:

Well, like I said, I. I'm assuming

Steve:

Kiera and Eric are going to scheme to try to take down

Steve:

Jenny and Eric looks like he's out

Steve:

for blood now Eric is mad.

Steve:

I think Eric's going to take out the Jonathan thing on

Steve:

Jenny, which isn't fair. Jonathan is his

Steve:

own asshole and you're too good

Steve:

for him anyway. Eric, I feel like, oh,

Steve:

I mean 100%, no doubt.

Steve:

Trip and Serena are going to bone.

Steve:

That's gotta happen. There

Steve:

is obviously going to be a huge

Steve:

tension between the three way

Steve:

that now every time Olivia

Steve:

looks at Dan, looking at Vanessa and all that

Steve:

shit, who knows who moaned the wrong

Steve:

way in. In Sexy

Steve:

Time. And

Steve:

all the other Chasing Amy, all

Steve:

the other Chasing Amy problematic

Steve:

things in there, that's going to be

Steve:

a problem. I don't know how

Steve:

Lily's going to handle this letter. I don't know

Steve:

what it's going to do to her and Rufus or what

Steve:

it's going to do to her and Serena.

Steve:

I'm assuming she's going to open it and read it. I

Steve:

really hope she just gives it to Serena, but I don't

Steve:

think that's. That wouldn't be good tv.

Leif:

It's definitely not a Lilly move and.

Steve:

It'S definitely not a Lily move.

Leif:

What about Chuck and Blair?

Steve:

I think at this point they're solid

Steve:

enough that I feel like the writers really want them to coast

Steve:

for a little while and I feel like they're doing that

Steve:

by not pairing them. They haven't

Steve:

really paired them together

Steve:

other than passing moments and

Steve:

scenes. They haven't had a plot together

Steve:

in weeks.

Steve:

Maybe, uh, not this season. Since they've been together,

Steve:

I feel like they start and end every

Steve:

episode together but they're

Steve:

not together together. You know what I

Steve:

mean? They don't have a plot line that

Steve:

runs through an episode together and so

Steve:

I think that the writers are just kind of letting them coast

Steve:

and finding tension elsewhere. So I'm going to let

Steve:

them coast on that for a little longer. I'm thinking

Steve:

maybe mid season. We'll see that shake up. We're at

Steve:

what, episode seven.

Leif:

Now this is episode nine.

Steve:

Nine. We're about to hit Thanksgiving, I

Steve:

believe. Is Thanksgiving next or is it two

Steve:

weeks away?

Leif:

Two weeks.

Steve:

Two weeks. So yeah, I mean Thanksgiving

Steve:

tends to be a big shake up. Dan Serena tends

Steve:

to be around here sometime too, doesn't it?

Steve:

Is that 9 or 10?

Leif:

10 is, uh, sometimes a Dan Serena episode

Leif:

or definitely a Serena centric episode.

Steve:

Okay. Okay. So yeah, I'm, I

Steve:

Feel like we're gonna see drama with

Steve:

chair mid season.

Steve:

That's when that shakeup is gonna happen. I'm wondering

Steve:

if Jenny and Nate are gonna.

Leif:

That was my next question. What's next for Nate? Is he just

Leif:

gonna spend the rest of the season banging sex

Leif:

workers?

Steve:

Well, I'm. I'm curious as to whether or

Steve:

not he and Jenny will have a furthering thing.

Steve:

Maybe obeying high school girls. Um, that

Steve:

doesn't. That family.

Steve:

I think that the family would

Steve:

approve. I also.

Steve:

Because there's going to be tension between Nate and

Steve:

Trip too. Trip, Nate's going to be

Steve:

like, you're the good one. Why are you banging my friend

Steve:

who I hate right now? So I'm also wondering what

Steve:

Nate. Uh, Nate and Serena still haven't worked their shit out

Steve:

either.

Leif:

No.

Steve:

And now Nate and Vanessa have shit too.

Steve:

So I don't.

Leif:

Nate. Vanessa?

Steve:

Yeah, from the. From last week, from

Steve:

the video. Vanessa. Well,

Steve:

it's more Vanessa and Nate than Nate and Vanessa because

Steve:

Vanessa was like, you know, who are you? And who is this person

Steve:

you've become?

Leif:

I guess. But they. They don't really have any reason to

Leif:

interact anymore.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah.

Leif:

Anything else?

Steve:

I think those are my big ones. I'm wondering

Steve:

what's going to happen with Rufus and Lily. I think I said that.

Steve:

I wonder what that letter will do with Rufus and Lily.

Leif:

Well, I mean, this is continuing to point to

Leif:

Dr. Daddy coming back at some point.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Well, let's go ahead and get into segments.

Leif:

This week in fandom, we jumped into the

Leif:

Wayback Machine to visit the fan forums from

Leif:

2009.

Leif:

Hello there, Peabody. Here. And this

Leif:

is the Wayback Machine for traveling through time. And

Leif:

this is my boy, Sherman. Speak, Sherman.

Steve:

Hello.

Leif:

Good boy. Overall, they thought

Leif:

this is a really good episode.

Steve:

Yeah, I. I wasn't feeling this episode the way

Steve:

I do other ones.

Leif:

And, uh, I was reminded of the expression

Leif:

Nate fused.

Steve:

Nate fused.

Leif:

Yeah. Which is like this confused look.

Steve:

Nate fused the look when granddad said.

Leif:

It was definitely an expression. That's used a lot in the

Leif:

forums back in the day.

Steve:

That's so funny. It just takes me right to

Steve:

grandfather last week when he's like, unless

Steve:

something does happen. And Nate looked at him like,

Steve:

oh, I should know what he's talking

Steve:

about.

Leif:

Fan forum was very anti

Leif:

Jenny. She

Leif:

kind of.

Steve:

Kind of an asshole. I got where she was coming from.

Leif:

I mean, but it's the same kind of stuff that people love Blair for.

Steve:

Yeah. She was basically doing what Blair did

Steve:

all season one.

Leif:

Yeah. Threesome was weird and not

Leif:

hot.

Steve:

Not hot.

Leif:

And there's people who are glad the Brooklynites are

Leif:

segregated away from the extravagance of the Upper east side.

Leif:

The who are the Brooklynites.

Leif:

But like, Jenny was right in the middle of everything, so I don't get that.

Steve:

So, uh, because Jenny's not really a Brooklynite

Steve:

anymore. Jenny is

Steve:

morphed.

Leif:

And finally Serena Tripp is gross.

Steve:

Mhm. Yeah. So fucking gross.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Well, let's move on over to episode

Leif:

grades. I went first last time. So what do you got this

Leif:

time?

Steve:

Um, I gave this one a C. I

Steve:

thought the threesome, whole threesome

Steve:

storyline was kind of

Steve:

lame. The, oh,

Steve:

we're together, but I've got to go do this movie. And

Steve:

it just kind of drug along. I thought the

Steve:

cotillion theme of I need the best

Steve:

man to make it work. I know, I

Steve:

understand in the context of the show,

Steve:

I still don't like it.

Steve:

And just in general, I thought that

Steve:

the big shining moment in this was Rufus being

Steve:

clueless. And ultimately I didn't

Steve:

hate it. But not one of my favorites.

Leif:

Yeah, I mean, I'm um, completely opposite. This is one of my

Leif:

favorite episodes of the season. I thought the writing was really

Leif:

good. It was very tight. The dialogue was good. All the schemes kind

Leif:

of came together and

Leif:

typical Jenny fashion, she looks like she's

Leif:

dab. It comes up at the end. I like the

Leif:

band playing. I like the I. You said it looked cheap, but

Leif:

I like the Italian desier is very, very

Leif:

Jenny. So I actually gave this episode an A.

Steve:

All right, these are subjective.

Leif:

Let's move over to Stockwatch. Who

Leif:

you got going up?

Steve:

So I have Jenny going up. Obviously she won

Steve:

in the end. I had Serena and Blair going up

Steve:

for making up and being friends and Serena

Steve:

getting a job.

Steve:

I had Chuck going up for solving

Steve:

the Blair Serena problem. I had

Steve:

Rufus and Lily going up

Steve:

for being appropriately written in

Steve:

this episode as parents. I had

Steve:

Kira going up. She lost,

Steve:

but she also got on the radar and

Steve:

now made some m headway. So for right

Steve:

now, I had her going up. Oh, and she also got

Steve:

to go to cotillion with Graham, which

Steve:

she got the best guy to go with. And

Steve:

then I had Vanessa

Steve:

going up, although she may have gone down.

Steve:

And I also had Nate going up for doing

Steve:

a solid for Jenny. And Nate hasn't had many ups

Steve:

lately, so I felt I'd give him an up.

Leif:

I had a lot less people going up. I had

Leif:

Jenny, of course, because she is now the queen of Queens.

Leif:

I had Dan going up because,

Leif:

yeah, he's looking up.

Leif:

And Vanessa because She finally got Dan

Leif:

and Rufus and Lily because, yeah, they were

Leif:

nice and supportive and.

Leif:

Yeah, that's it. You got

Leif:

going down.

Steve:

I have Eric going down. Uh, Eric, uh,

Steve:

man, bad episode. I have Jonathan

Steve:

going down. Fuck you, Jonathan. I actually had

Steve:

Dan going down because, yes, he had a threesome,

Steve:

but it was with Vanessa and so I also had

Steve:

Olivia.

Leif:

Dan likes Vanessa, though.

Steve:

Yeah, but I. But it's gross,

Steve:

I guess. And so I had Dan and Olivia

Steve:

going down because, yes, they both had a threesome, but it was with

Steve:

Vanessa and because here's

Steve:

the other thing. The other reason why Dan and Olivia

Steve:

go down and Vanessa goes up is that

Steve:

Dan and Olivia are in a happy relationship. And this

Steve:

is. This is a bad move. This is

Steve:

a dumb idea.

Leif:

It's a dumb idea, but it hasn't gone bad yet.

Steve:

No, no, but I'm still

Steve:

giving them the down for me.

Leif:

I had Eric because obviously Eric,

Leif:

uh, Jonathan also because he's Sucks. Yeah.

Leif:

Kira because she. I don't think

Leif:

getting on the radar is going to be good for. Good for her.

Steve:

I kind of. And that's kind of where you

Steve:

said it hasn't happened yet. That's where I am with

Steve:

her. But I get it.

Leif:

But she also got the shoulder. Check this episode.

Leif:

So she trip

Leif:

because.

Steve:

Oh, please add trip to mine. I meant to put

Steve:

trip because.

Leif:

And uh, finally Olivia, because she, uh, as I mentioned, is self

Leif:

sabotaging by initiating this threesome.

Steve:

Yes, she did. Self sabotage. But

Steve:

here's the best outfits from the last

Steve:

episode we seen.

Leif:

Who do you have for best outfit?

Steve:

I gave Chuck's robe. I really like

Steve:

that Lost Weekend look on

Steve:

Chuck. And I feel like I'm so

Steve:

often focused on the couture and

Steve:

glamour stuff. And then I forget. Some of the

Steve:

casual stuff is really nice too. So I gave it to

Steve:

Chuck.

Leif:

Yeah, I could not give it to Jenny. Black

Leif:

Italian dress from Blue Marine with the black

Leif:

forefinger gloves. But also honorable

Leif:

mention to Blair's dress, the red side bow dress from

Leif:

Marchesa.

Steve:

Yes. I actually really. That would have been

Steve:

the dress if I went with a dress.

Leif:

What are you plugging this week?

Steve:

So a bunch of us started a new game called Trench

Steve:

Crusade. Don't know if anyone. I don't know what the Venn

Steve:

diagram of tabletop wargaming and

Steve:

Gossip Girl is, but many of us,

Steve:

some of our friends have started that. So, uh, that's a lot of

Steve:

fun. Started painting some minis. Other than that, you

Steve:

can follow me on my instagram

Steve:

or my TikTok or

Steve:

my threads. Steve Marchon,

Steve:

M A R C H I O N. I'm also on

Steve:

bluesky at the Weed wizard and

Steve:

that's pretty much what I've got going on for me right

Steve:

now.

Leif:

Uh, for me I started watching the

Leif:

studio on.

Steve:

I was going to watch that. Are you enjoying it? Yeah.

Leif:

The first two episodes are really funny. Uh, written and directed

Leif:

by Seth Rogen, who is. And Evan Goldberg.

Leif:

Seth Rogen is also the star. He plays

Leif:

a studio head in the vein of the

Leif:

Larry David, George Costanza.

Leif:

What's name?

Steve:

Garry Shandling.

Leif:

No. Um, Woody Allen.

Leif:

Duh.

Steve:

Woody. Oh, okay.

Leif:

In that mold. And then it also has

Leif:

Bryan Cranston. He's like the money guy, like

Leif:

over top of the studio head. And then Catherine

Leif:

O'Hara is the former studio head. And

Leif:

you got uh, Catherine Hans in there also and a

Leif:

bunch of other people you probably recognize.

Steve:

That's Apple tv, right? No, because I was gonna

Steve:

say if you have Apple TV and you're not watching Mythic Quest, then

Steve:

you've got to go back and, and fix that.

Leif:

And if you want to follow me on social media,

Leif:

you can find me on Blue sky and Instagram

Leif:

at Hot Capicola. That's H o

Leif:

T C a P I C

Leif:

o L A. You can follow the podcast

Leif:

on Instagram threads and

Leif:

TikTok at non judging breakfast

Leif:

pod. And if you would like to find links to

Leif:

our subreddit, our discord server,

Leif:

patreon, etc. Uh, you can find it on our

Leif:

website

Leif:

nonjudgingbreakfastpod.com

Leif:

and if you'd like to.

Steve:

Get in touch with us, we would love to hear what you have to say. And

Steve:

as we did today, we'd love to read your email here

Steve:

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Steve:

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Steve:

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Steve:

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Steve:

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Steve:

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Steve:

join onto the non judging breakfast pod

Steve:

and make us your water cooler talk.

Leif:

Indeed. And we will be back next week

Leif:

to Talk about Season 3, Episode

Leif:

10, the Last Days of the

Leif:

Disco Stick. The Max

Leif:

episode description reads,

Leif:

blair is hoping to impress the elitist

Leif:

theater kids at nyu. Dan, um, and

Leif:

Olivia sign up to write and star in a school

Leif:

play.

Steve:

It said Blair was doing something with the theater kids.

Leif:

Yeah, uh, Blair is hoping to impress the elitist theater kids at

Leif:

NYU and.

Steve:

Then they're going to do a play. Okay.

Steve:

So there's going to be some. Probably some Blair

Steve:

dan Olivia

Steve:

crossover here.

Leif:

And Vanessa, too.

Steve:

And Vanessa.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

Yep.

Leif:

But I kind of like the Blair Vanessa stuff.

Steve:

Oh, I do. I do like Blair vanessa stuff because

Steve:

they're the same person from different places.

Leif:

But that's it for now. Until next time. You

Leif:

know you love us.

Steve:

XOXO Every time you walk away

Steve:

run away you take a piece of m me with you

Steve:

there every time you walk

Steve:

away or run away you take a piece of me

Steve:

with you there every

Steve:

time you walk away or run away you take a piece of

Steve:

me with you there

Steve:

oh it seems I'm walking right to

Steve:

your door.

Steve:

My heart's.

Steve:

Still resting looking for something

Steve:

more.

Steve:

Are.

Steve:

You ever gonna see everything you mean to me

Steve:

I'm trying really hard to believe

Steve:

every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there huh

Steve:

every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there

Steve:

every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there

Steve:

never feels right when I'm out here on

Steve:

my own

Steve:

I left last night and it feels like

Steve:

way too long

Steve:

are you ever gonna see everything you mean

Steve:

to me I'm trying really hard to believe

Steve:

every time you walk away run away you take a piece

Steve:

of meat with you there

Steve:

every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there

Steve:

every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there.

Steve:

Come back to me.

Steve:

Smile and you'll make my life

Steve:

complete

Steve:

every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there

Steve:

every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there

Steve:

every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there

Steve:

every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of m me with you there

Steve:

every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there

Steve:

every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there

Steve:

every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there

Steve:

every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there.