Episode 7

S3E07 - "How to Succeed In Bassness"

This week on the Non Judging Breakfast Pod, Leif and Steve are back at it, diving into the delicious drama of Gossip Girl Season 3, Episode 7, "How to Succeed in Basness." With Halloween lurking around the corner, our Upper East Siders are pulling out all the stops with their costumes while juggling love, ambition, and the not-so-fun consequences of their choices.

Join Leif and Steve as they navigate the wild ride of this episode! Jenny’s trying to figure out who she really is while battling the pressures of popularity, and Blair and Chuck's relationship hits a snag thanks to some sneaky betrayal. Meanwhile, Dan and Olivia’s romance is getting a little rocky with insecurities creeping in, and poor Serena is caught in a sticky web of manipulation, balancing her loyalties to her friends and her job.

With enough drama, iconic fashion moments, and a sprinkle of Halloween magic to keep you on your toes, this episode is a feast for the senses. So, grab your favorite breakfast treat—be it a pumpkin spice latte or a plate of spooky waffles—and settle in for a lively chat that will leave you entertained and hungry for more Gossip Girl gossip!

Produced by Leif Capicola and Steve Marchion. 

Edited and mixed by Leif Capicola.

The Gossip Girl Theme Performed By Steve Marchion.

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Leif:

Yeah, the person who says that, uh, Jenny looks like she's smiling for

Leif:

arts has clearly never been to a warhammer

Leif:

convention.

Steve:

I was thinking I've played in enough game

Steve:

stores to know what someone smells like.

Steve:

Smells like farts. Looks like.

Leif:

Hey, Upper east siders and all you scandal loving listeners

Leif:

out there, you just turned into the non judging breakfast

Leif:

pod, where the coffee is strong, the waffles

Leif:

are fresh, and the gossip is hotter than ever.

Leif:

My name is Leif, and I'm your seasoned Gossip Girl

Leif:

veteran.

Steve:

And I'm Steve the rookie, the new

Steve:

guy. The what am I now, Leif? We're

Steve:

partway through season three.

Leif:

Well, I think you know what happens if you sit on a step higher than

Leif:

mine.

Steve:

Oh, uh, absolutely. And I guess it means

Steve:

that I just wouldn't make you float anymore.

Leif:

Not at all.

Steve:

So here's the deal, folks. Leaf has been watching

Steve:

Gossip Girl since it first aired, and I'm diving in for the

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first time. And together, we're your dynamic duo, uh,

Steve:

bringing you all the drama, romance, and

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sometimes questionable fashion choices of this

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iconic 2007 series.

Leif:

Bring your magnifying glasses, because each week we're

Leif:

dissecting every juicy detail of the show one

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episode at a time. We'll connect the dots,

Leif:

uncover those sneaky little Easter eggs, and of

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course, serve up some piping hot behind the scenes

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tea. And expect some iconic fan moments too,

Leif:

because what's a deep dive without a little drama?

Steve:

And since we are all about inclusivity here

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at the non judging breakfast pod, there's always

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room for you at the non judging breakfast table. So go grab

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your Halloween candy or a cup of coffee

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and come pull up a seat next to us and

Steve:

we will get right into this.

Leif:

Yes, we will. But before that, let's talk a little good

Leif:

cop, bad cop.

Steve:

I caught up last night. Um, I

Steve:

enjoy this show immensely.

Steve:

I have a lot of fun with it.

Leif:

The show itself is kind of wearing thin on me.

Leif:

Yeah, not a lot there.

Steve:

No, no. But you know me, I don't

Steve:

always need a lot there.

Leif:

Blatant is really the only thing that's bringing me back at this

Leif:

point. We did just get to see Adam Brody's

Leif:

character.

Steve:

Yes, we saw Adam Brody on the

Steve:

latest episode, and yeah,

Steve:

he seems so greasy.

Steve:

I mean, yeah, he was kind of.

Steve:

He seemed to be cast

Steve:

that way, though, a little bit.

Leif:

But he always does.

Steve:

Yeah, yeah, he always. He's. Yeah.

Leif:

And I like Adam Brody.

Leif:

That tragic. I mean, he's very

Leif:

charismatic and funny, but he is not

Leif:

nearly the character actor that Layton is.

Steve:

No, no.

Leif:

And, uh, he's always just Adam Brody.

Steve:

Yes. Yeah.

Steve:

Which is.

Leif:

Which is great because Adam Brody's hilarious.

Steve:

Right. And we talk about that a lot about, like, the good

Steve:

actors on this show and just good acting and bad

Steve:

acting. And there is that.

Steve:

That those actors

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that aren't great that just play themselves

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every time you see them, but that's what

Steve:

you're there for. And I mean, Tom

Steve:

Cruise has. In my. In my

Steve:

estimation, Tom Cruise has always just been Tom Cruise. And

Steve:

everything he did, the very first movie he

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did was this innocent kid

Steve:

that gets in, starts this

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business, and ends up being, uh, a dick in the

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end. And then every movie since was pretty much

Steve:

this dick trying to be a good guy.

Steve:

And. And that's not all of his movies.

Steve:

But I never. I can't divorce

Steve:

Tom Cruise from who he is in movies because I just

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don't think he's a great actor. Do I like

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some of his movies? Absolutely. Doesn't make

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him good. Then you have the flip side of

Steve:

it, where I watched two episodes

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of Good Cop, Bad Cop, and then I

Steve:

watched Gossip Girl all back to back

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last night. And you don't. She's

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unrecognizable as the same person.

Steve:

There is no trace between

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the two characters that she's playing.

Steve:

And it's sometimes jarring

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that I'm like, oh, yeah, that's right. Like, oh, yeah,

Steve:

this is the same actor who's

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Blair Waldorf, who is

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this 100% opposite.

Leif:

Now, I will say that it is a little bit

Leif:

similar to the Blair of the later

Leif:

seasons.

Steve:

Oh, okay.

Leif:

But, yeah, I definitely see traces of

Leif:

Blair and Lou, but, uh, she

Leif:

is creating a new character.

Steve:

Yeah. And very well.

Steve:

And there are

Steve:

other things that I like on the show, though. I like the

Steve:

father son dynamic as, uh, somebody who. With a troubled

Steve:

father son dynamic. I like that.

Steve:

I like the

Steve:

siblings that are completely different

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and are kind of ride or die for

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each other, even though they can't stand each other half the

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time. I really

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connect with that.

Leif:

I don't dislike any of that. It's just. There's

Leif:

not a lot of story to tell.

Steve:

No, no. And it's funny, I had the thought

Steve:

in the last one where the,

Steve:

uh, not the last one, but the two weeks ago when they were

Steve:

blowing up the cell phone towers and stuff like that,

Steve:

and they barged into the old lady's house and knocked her

Steve:

over. And then when she was alive, I

Steve:

was like, okay, good, because this is supposed to be a

Steve:

small town. They're gonna run out of people.

Leif:

Yeah. Eventually I was about

Leif:

to say the crimes seem to be getting a little more

Leif:

ridiculous each week.

Steve:

Yes. Yeah. And I

Steve:

feel like that's really the nature of

Steve:

this type of show.

Steve:

In the line of Psych. Or,

Steve:

uh, there's another one right on the top of my head that I.

Leif:

And there's a reason I don't watch those shows.

Steve:

Burn Notice. Burn Notice.

Leif:

Psych. I didn't watch.

Steve:

Yes. And I love those shows.

Steve:

I absolutely loved both of those

Steve:

shows.

Leif:

So we are here to talk about Gossip girl today.

Leif:

Season 3, Episode 7, how to

Leif:

Succeed in Basness

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Original Air Date was October 26, 2009

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so right before Halloween.

Steve:

Mhm. And, uh, a play

Steve:

on how to succeed in business without even trying.

Leif:

Yes. 1967

Leif:

film Armed with the

Leif:

Tititular Manual, an ambitious widow

Leif:

watcher seeks to climb the corporate

Leif:

ladder. It was directed by David Swift, who

Leif:

also wrote, uh, the 1961 and 98

Leif:

versions of Parent Trap, and with stars

Leif:

Robert Morse. I, uh, know him as

Leif:

Bert Cooper from Mad Men. And

Leif:

Michelle Lee was, uh, the mom and Along

Leif:

Came Polly.

Steve:

Was there a remake of this movie? I thought there was like

Steve:

a 90s remake. I. I thought this

Steve:

movie was from the 90s. Was the.

Leif:

So when I saw the title, I thought it was

Leif:

the movie with Michael J. Fox.

Steve:

That's, that's what I thought.

Leif:

But it's not. It's a completely different movie.

Steve:

What's the movie with Michael J. Fox?

Leif:

Something else.

Steve:

That movie, right?

Leif:

Yes, that's what I thought it was.

Leif:

But it's apparently some other movie in

Leif:

1967.

Steve:

I'm having one of those. What's it called? When

Steve:

Mandela.

Leif:

Mandala.

Steve:

The Mandala Effect. I could

Steve:

have sworn I was thinking Matthew Broderick at

Steve:

first.

Leif:

Uh, the movie with, uh, him is called the Secret to

Leif:

My Success.

Steve:

Oh, yes, that is correct. The Secret to

Steve:

my Success. Yeah. Okay.

Leif:

But yes, originally that's what I kind of thought they were. I

Leif:

had that same thought that there was that. But then when I looked it up. No, it's some

Leif:

other movie in the 60s.

Steve:

And that's really funny because I knew it was a

Steve:

movie. Did I wonder, did they do a

Steve:

Broadway. Did they. Did

Steve:

they do a Broadway adaptation of the

Steve:

movie?

Leif:

Not that I saw.

Steve:

Okay. Because that's the other thing that I thought it could have

Steve:

been because I, um, My

Steve:

first thought was Matthew Broderick, but

Steve:

it was the Michael J. Fox movie.

Steve:

Like, I put Broderick's face on

Steve:

Michael J. Fox in my weird memory

Steve:

place.

Leif:

But if you do want to watch the movie, how to Succeed

Leif:

in business. You can see it on Pluto tv.

Steve:

Oh, nice.

Leif:

This episode was written by Sarah

Leif:

Goodman. This is her second of 13

Leif:

episodes on the series. She is a

Leif:

longtime producer, and the previous episode she did was the

Leif:

Wrath of Gone, the 23rd episode of last

Leif:

season.

Steve:

23Rd. So near the end,

Steve:

that's what Georgina officially like.

Leif:

Uh, the episode before that was Southern Gentlemen Prefer

Leif:

Blondes, and at the end.

Steve:

Of the episode, they went to find.

Leif:

Georgina, and then she comes back in the rat to con.

Steve:

Okay.

Leif:

She does the whole plan to get Poppy by being, like,

Leif:

an innocent person.

Steve:

I like. I liked that episode.

Leif:

Yeah, we both gave that a. Yeah. This episode was

Leif:

directed by Joe Lazarov. Uh, this is the second

Leif:

of eight episodes. Once again, a longtime producer

Leif:

on the show, and his previous episode was O

Leif:

Brother Ware Bart thou. Which was the funeral.

Steve:

Yes.

Leif:

Yeah, why don't you go ahead and read us

Leif:

that rather short vulture recap.

Steve:

Yes, it's Halloween, but the

Steve:

masks our characters are wearing aren't just

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festive strips of silicone donned for a

Steve:

night of carousing. The kabuki

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makeup Jenny Humphrey has plastered on to

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obscure her ordinary Brooklyn features has

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been seeping into her skin,

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and whatever is in it has been

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poisoning her personality. Actress

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Olivia, a master of disguise, wears a

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mask of innocence when questioned by her new boyfriend

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Dan about a realistic seeming orgasm

Steve:

she had on screen in front of millions

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with her ex. But underneath, the real

Steve:

story is different. And as usual, Blair

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maintained a confident, bitchy veneer

Steve:

until the mask cracked, exposing the

Steve:

vulnerability beneath.

Leif:

Have you ever seen a girl levitate when they orgasm?

Leif:

Because that doesn't sound real estate to me.

Steve:

Every time. Uh, that. What do

Steve:

you mean? I thought that was normal.

Leif:

Okay. Uh, wow. I guess I'm doing it wrong.

Steve:

Wow. I mean,

Steve:

I thought nothing of it. I'm sorry to

Steve:

hear that, Leif.

Steve:

She barks, she drools, she sleeps above

Steve:

the covers. Four feet above

Steve:

the covers. That was my thought

Steve:

throughout all of that.

Leif:

We begin the episode with a Gossip Girl

Leif:

monologue.

Leif:

All Hallows Eve, the one day a year

Leif:

it's socially acceptable to play dress up. The

Leif:

only question is, who do you want it to be?

Leif:

There are costumes to make men feel like boys again

Leif:

or turn little girls into queens.

Leif:

Rufus is making a kiss themed Jack

Leif:

o'lanterns and Lily has encouraged Jenny to get rid of

Leif:

some old. Her old dresses, but Jenny is

Leif:

having none of it.

Steve:

Yeah, the kiss pumpkins were

Steve:

funny. I. I don't really see

Steve:

Roop as much as a kiss guy, but I really appreciated

Steve:

the. The gesture.

Steve:

I also Think that they. That it makes for a

Steve:

great pumpkin. It's great.

Steve:

Yeah, it is.

Leif:

It works.

Steve:

I hate kiss, but I think that that would be a neat

Steve:

thing. And the Jenny thing, just, you know, not

Steve:

wanting to let go. Mhm. It's

Steve:

very symbolic in

Steve:

this, in this episode that

Steve:

Jenny.

Leif:

Did you recognize the dress she held up too?

Steve:

Yeah, that was the one that she made.

Leif:

Kind of started it all.

Steve:

Yeah, exactly. And

Steve:

Jenny, her whole arc

Steve:

in this episode really

Steve:

starts here with her knowing

Steve:

she's. Knowing she's losing

Steve:

herself and knowing that she's in this

Steve:

role that she doesn't really like

Steve:

being in and it's taking

Steve:

over. Mhm. And so her

Steve:

holding on to the past here and like, no, I'm still

Steve:

that innocent kid designing

Steve:

clothes. She. She's really hanging on to

Steve:

that still.

Leif:

Chuck and Blair are discussing Chuck's new hotel

Leif:

and club within. Blair wants to be

Leif:

supportive and help Chuck with his business venture. However,

Leif:

Chuck is reluctant. Blair immediately ignores

Leif:

Chuck's boundary and makes a call to book someone named Mark

Leif:

for the club opening.

Steve:

Yeah. And Chuck's response?

Steve:

I don't want a high school party. And

Steve:

Blair has not divorced herself from high school

Steve:

entirely yet. She's made steps,

Steve:

but she's still high school Blair. She's still trying to

Steve:

run minions around.

Steve:

She's still doing her high school fair.

Steve:

Chuck.

Leif:

Yeah. At the loft,

Leif:

Nate delivers in a super shady

Leif:

paper bag the Endless Nights DVD box set. Uh, for

Leif:

Dan to finally watch. Like Kirsten Stewart and

Leif:

Robert Pattinson, Olivia dated her co star for the movie.

Leif:

And it is rumored that the sex scenes were not

Leif:

simulated. Nate is mocked for reading

Leif:

Endless Nights blogs and we find out Dan and Olivia have

Leif:

yet to do the deed. However, Gossip Girl

Leif:

sends a timely blast with a picture of Olivia grabbing

Leif:

free condoms from the student center.

Steve:

Um, once again, we have a really fun

Steve:

chase scene where Nate gets to

Steve:

be funny and he's digging.

Steve:

Don't they have the Internet down here in Brooklyn?

Steve:

And you know, gets to banter and joke

Steve:

around and poke fun

Steve:

at Dan in this episode. It

Steve:

was nice.

Leif:

That was fun.

Steve:

Yeah, that. That's the Nate I want to see. M.

Steve:

Forget romantic Nate.

Leif:

Serena is at the office with Casey. Casey wants

Leif:

Serena to get Olivia and Dan to break up so Olivia

Leif:

can get back together with co star Patrick

Leif:

Roberts. Writer's definitely not subtle with the

Leif:

Twilight references. Serena tries to refuse,

Leif:

but Casey plays hardball by threatening her with

Leif:

potential sexual assault from James Franca.

Steve:

Yeah, you think he

Steve:

would.

Leif:

He forces the person who delivers them. You know, he models

Leif:

models to watch.

Steve:

Him Put them on and take them off.

Leif:

Yes.

Steve:

And he's like, hold on, I'll turn around.

Steve:

But there's a mirror there. So he's.

Steve:

So he knows you're still seeing everything. I

Steve:

also like the. You mean the guy from Star

Steve:

wars that's not Harrison Ford. When she said

Steve:

he's on the road to Mark Hamilton

Steve:

being a phenomenal voice actor and great voice

Steve:

acting career from.

Leif:

But not. He's not Harrison Ford.

Steve:

He is not Harrison Ford.

Leif:

But he's not Bill Winters either.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Or Alex Winters.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

Leif:

So later in the season they also kind of

Leif:

take a shot at Harvey Weinstein. And this is. This is

Leif:

well before me too. So was this, uh, was

Leif:

this.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Did they know about James Franca, the writers,

Leif:

before it came out?

Steve:

This would have been 09.

Steve:

Franco. When did Franco. When was

Steve:

Pineapple Express? That would have been like

Steve:

05 06, I think

Steve:

like early, early 2000s.

Steve:

And so this stuff doesn't happen

Steve:

in a vacuum and this stuff happens from

Steve:

the availability for it. So I

Steve:

would imagine he started showing his

Steve:

creepiness.

Leif:

Mhm.

Steve:

Early.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

I know that there was a point that Seth Rogen was

Steve:

like, I won't work with him anymore. And

Steve:

when I was reading that I really got the impression that it was

Steve:

sort of. Ah, yeah. I realized how much of

Steve:

a creepy was. And also that I grew

Steve:

up and realized that shit's not okay. And

Steve:

I, um, often question. I'll always say that people that

Steve:

get to certain levels of

Steve:

celebrity don't get there without

Steve:

stepping on necks and without

Steve:

shitting on people. Other people. And then you

Steve:

have that whole predatory

Steve:

nature behind the power you get

Steve:

with celebrity. And I can

Steve:

only imagine that starts early and

Steve:

the, the that people that had worked with

Steve:

Franco by now probably seen some

Steve:

stuff.

Leif:

Yeah. Eric is back and bonding

Leif:

with Jenny over his mutual parental induced

Leif:

embarrassment. Eric goes to sit with Jonathan

Leif:

while Jenny puts her minions to task. After the minions

Leif:

run off, Jenny notices Eric and Jonathan are sitting above

Leif:

their station on the Met steps. Eric and Jonathan

Leif:

agree to vacate, but Jonathan is not happy about

Leif:

it.

Steve:

Yeah,

Steve:

I felt kind of two different ways

Steve:

on this scene. You're

Steve:

vacating your friends. That's grimy. Eric

Steve:

also knows the position she's in.

Leif:

Yeah. They saw what happens when she tries to

Leif:

ignore being queen.

Steve:

Yes. It just goes bad.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

And so Eric is the one

Steve:

not, uh. Jonathan is really the one pushing the

Steve:

challenging this. Eric is trying to just let it

Steve:

be. And there's really this

Steve:

developing beef between Jonathan and

Steve:

Jenny and Eric is trying

Steve:

to maintain this

Steve:

balance And Jonathan

Steve:

makes the point of, like, that mask is becoming her face.

Steve:

And you see that side of it when she's

Steve:

like, are there skins on these almonds?

Steve:

Fix it and get it back to me.

Steve:

So.

Leif:

But we know that's what the minions want. They want. They want to be

Leif:

ordered around like that.

Steve:

Uh, yes, it's true. It's a matter

Steve:

of how long can you do it before you enjoy

Steve:

the power that you have.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

And Jenny is

Steve:

reluctant in having this power, but

Steve:

she has zero problem wielding

Steve:

it with authority.

Leif:

Dan and Nate are watching the sex scene from

Leif:

Olivia's movie, and Dan is becoming increasingly

Leif:

uncomfortable. Nate, on the other hand, is

Leif:

sitting back and giggling with glee. Dan gets

Leif:

a call from Olivia and fakes being sick to get out of

Leif:

tonight's planned activities.

Steve:

Dan, um, it's a fucking movie.

Steve:

And Olivia says it out.

Leif:

It's love, man. It's totally love and lust

Leif:

and gratitude.

Steve:

Yeah, it's acting. And. And even

Steve:

if they did do it on screen, even if

Steve:

all of that is true, dude, she's still

Steve:

an actor.

Leif:

And it was before you met.

Steve:

And it was before you met. And no

Steve:

matter how good it was, she had to act like it was

Steve:

even better. You know,

Steve:

just starting, uh, this whole, like, oh, I'm

Steve:

sick, I don't want to see you lies thing. I really thought

Steve:

Dan would be better than this. He was better than

Steve:

this with Serena, wasn't he?

Leif:

He actually went through this exact same thing with. With Nate

Leif:

and Serena.

Steve:

Oh, you're right. You're right.

Leif:

He kept picturing Nate and Serena having sex.

Steve:

That's right.

Leif:

How great it was.

Steve:

Yeah, I. I remember that now.

Leif:

Ah, he has an actual visible or a visual

Leif:

representation of it.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

So it's definitely in character for Dan.

Steve:

Yes. And. And later, Olivia makes the point of, like,

Steve:

there's lighting, there's makeup, there's. There's all of

Steve:

this stuff that no matter and. But it's also

Steve:

d. This. You're being stupid. Why are you

Steve:

lying to. You're being so insecure about something

Steve:

so dumb.

Leif:

Yes, but.

Steve:

But he's also a teenager, and. Yeah, I would have

Steve:

probably been just as bad.

Leif:

Yeah, I. I told. It's not the right move, but I. I

Leif:

totally get it.

Steve:

Yes. Shame on you, Dan. I get it.

Leif:

Blair is lounging while Serena does busy work for

Leif:

Casey. They are discussing Chuck's club.

Leif:

Serena gets a call from Chuck and conceals that Blair is

Leif:

listening. Chuck wants to hire a publicist for his club opening

Leif:

tomorrow. One catch. He doesn't want Blair to

Leif:

know or be involved with it. Yeah,

Leif:

you fucked up, B. Yeah.

Steve:

And uh, yeah, you fucked up B. And now

Steve:

Serena, you're fucking up.

Steve:

Chuck clearly does not want. When Chuck says,

Steve:

are you alone? Who do you think

Steve:

think he is asking, is there with you,

Steve:

Casey? No, he's

Steve:

asking, is Blair there?

Leif:

Yeah, I mean I, I can get sidey with the best friend

Leif:

over. Over.

Steve:

Well, and then Serena, that's kind of what

Steve:

irked me is that Serena. And not irk me

Steve:

now, but irk me later. Serena does the best friend

Steve:

thing. I'm going to let you hear what he's saying to me.

Steve:

And then he says that Serena does the best

Steve:

friend thing and Blair, I feel,

Steve:

takes advantage of it. This whole episode

Steve:

really takes advantage of their

Steve:

friendship and Serena giving her

Steve:

the in and the information on

Steve:

this.

Leif:

And we go into the act break with the Gossip

Leif:

Girl blast.

Leif:

Looks like someone's ghosts of Trick's past have

Leif:

come back to haunt this Halloween.

Leif:

And we moved into Act 2.

Leif:

Everyone's favorite bartender, Horace is back.

Steve:

Horace.

Leif:

Chuck explains the club's speakeasy theme to

Leif:

Nate. Nate comments on Blair not being

Leif:

involved. Chuck claims detached

Leif:

distrust.

Steve:

Yes. First of all, great to

Steve:

see Horace. Yeah, I was so glad to see him back

Steve:

and working for Chuck again. Yeah, I thought we'd never see him

Steve:

again. And here he is working for Chuck.

Steve:

Loved it.

Leif:

The casting director only knows one black person.

Steve:

That's

Steve:

especially since, uh, what's

Steve:

her name left. The minion from, uh,

Steve:

is left.

Leif:

Uh, I wonder if she got it to college.

Steve:

Well, they were smart, remember? Or at least Caddy was

Steve:

really smart. Uh, but I got the impression

Steve:

that two of them were and were just putting up

Steve:

with Blair to go to college. I

Steve:

also wanted, I liked how Chuck when he

Steve:

said fights, um, include

Steve:

time and energy.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

Right before he said the thing about detached

Steve:

distressed. Yeah, that.

Steve:

Yeah. I'm not putting any time and energy

Steve:

into what upset me about her. I'm

Steve:

focused here.

Leif:

Good for it.

Steve:

Good for him. And that. Man, that

Steve:

is even more of a

Steve:

statement than fighting with someone.

Steve:

Uh, there was a time a few years

Steve:

ago that I, you know how I

Steve:

don't get along with my ex wife. And there was a time a few

Steve:

years ago that I was like, I'm just

Steve:

not going to respond

Steve:

anymore and I'm not going to engage and I'm not going

Steve:

to fight. And if there's a one word answer, I'll send a one

Steve:

word answer because

Steve:

the fight was what she was going for.

Steve:

She wanted my time and energy and I'm not giving

Steve:

that back at the Office.

Leif:

Blair is pissed that Chuck chose Serena over

Leif:

her. Serena tells Blair to give Chuck some

Leif:

slack. Blair claims she

Leif:

agrees. She agrees and is going home. Guess

Leif:

who has two thumbs and ain't buying it? This

Leif:

guy.

Steve:

Don't be suspicious. Don't be

Steve:

suspicious. Don't be suspicious.

Steve:

When I saw her face, that's

Steve:

exactly what goes through my head.

Leif:

Rufus is excited to dress up and give out candy.

Leif:

He shames Lily for wanting to go to the club opening and

Leif:

supposedly embarrassing the kids. Vanya and

Leif:

Lily feel bad for Rufus because they know kids don't

Leif:

trick or treat in this building.

Steve:

Act happy, Matt.

Steve:

Just when Rufus is

Steve:

acting. When Matt Settle is acting,

Steve:

it's so bad.

Steve:

I'm so happy.

Leif:

Yes, I am so

Leif:

happy. So, uh, happy. So happy.

Steve:

He just did not match the energy of

Steve:

that scene. And Lily and

Steve:

Vanya did. I thought that

Steve:

this whole sort of plot line was just,

Steve:

how do we keep Rufus and Lily involved? And there's that

Steve:

part of me that's like, they don't have to have a big part in

Steve:

every episode. They don't need a

Steve:

storyline.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

Uh, in every episode. Nate doesn't get a storyline in

Steve:

every episode, and he's a star. So

Steve:

these two parents don't need a

Steve:

storyline in every episode. In fact, they didn't

Steve:

always. There was a time when they would

Steve:

just be supporting

Steve:

characters on, uh, some episodes. Let's get

Steve:

back to that.

Leif:

Jenny is discussing costume choices for the party

Leif:

tonight. The Minions ask if Jenny designed her

Leif:

own costume. Jenny says it's vintage.

Leif:

So in a previous episode, you mentioned the headcanon

Leif:

of Jenny still making her dresses. And I kind of fought

Leif:

back about it. I immediately. I was kind

Leif:

of looking forward a little bit, but now it's kind of

Leif:

confirmed that Jenny is no

Leif:

longer making clothes.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah.

Leif:

Jonathan and Eric once again decide to openly

Leif:

challenge Jenny's authority by going on a higher step than

Leif:

her. Jenny gives the silent command for her

Leif:

minions to dump yogurt on Eric's head.

Steve:

Yeah. Jonathan,

Steve:

why are you doing this?

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

Why are you starting

Steve:

this war between your boyfriend

Steve:

and his best friend

Steve:

Sister?

Leif:

For the most part, I was more on Jenny's side.

Leif:

The one thing I will disagree on is why didn't she just

Leif:

go after Jonathan instead of Erika?

Steve:

Yeah, that was. That should have been dumped

Steve:

on Jonathan.

Leif:

It's also a weird power play to kind of leave a

Leif:

whole flight of steps above you

Leif:

empty.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

And say, no, I could sit there.

Steve:

Yeah. And that's the other thing.

Steve:

Why. Why aren't you just sitting higher on the steps? But

Steve:

like you said, it's a power play. It is like no one can sit up

Steve:

there. I'm going to sit on the bottom step today. You're all

Steve:

standing.

Leif:

Olivia brings some soup to Dan at the loft. She.

Leif:

She quickly figures out the real reason Dan blew her

Leif:

off. Olivia assures Dan that her relationship

Leif:

with Patrick Roberts was just a publicity

Leif:

stunt. Looks like Dan and Olivia are going to the club

Leif:

after all.

Steve:

Yeah. Oh, what scene was

Steve:

it? No, you think I'm a bad actor. What scene was

Steve:

it? Going through all of these things that she hits the

Steve:

button is like, oh, yeah,

Steve:

you think I'm a really good actor.

Leif:

But it's just funny because that's initially what

Leif:

Dan was afraid of watching her.

Steve:

Being a terrible actor.

Leif:

Uh, the bad dialogues, what he mentions.

Steve:

Yes.

Leif:

Yeah, of course. Nate said, oh, the dialogue's

Leif:

awesome. I have my

Leif:

doubts.

Steve:

Nate.

Leif:

Sorry if I don't take your word for it.

Steve:

I feel like Dan and Nate watching a movie together would be

Steve:

like you and me watching a movie together.

Steve:

Oh. Uh, because we've done. You know, we both

Steve:

walked out of the first Star wars

Steve:

movie where you were like. And I was like,

Steve:

oh, that was fun. That

Steve:

was awesome. And you were like,

Steve:

I've got notes.

Leif:

Yeah, the Force Awakens. I was.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Different podcast.

Leif:

Serena tells Casey that Olivia is coming to the party

Leif:

alone and just needs to get Patrick Roberts there as

Leif:

well.

Steve:

Serena's such a bad liar.

Steve:

We've seen this before. That she can't look you in the

Steve:

eye when she lies, so she just lies to you

Steve:

and then looks around. Don't be

Steve:

suspicious. Don't be suspicious.

Leif:

Chuck is leaving a voicemail for the liquor board, still waiting

Leif:

to hear about his license. He and Horace are

Leif:

discussing what Bart would do in this situation, and Chuck

Leif:

gets a convenient call saying his liquor license

Leif:

was granted.

Steve:

That's convenient that it just happened right now

Steve:

when you were talking about it.

Leif:

And as we see, Blair gets a text from

Leif:

Jack Bass saying that he handled the liquor license.

Leif:

And Gossip Girl takes us to the act break.

Leif:

Seems like Chuck finally stepped out from big bad

Leif:

Bart's shadow. Too bad his girlfriend's

Leif:

still playing on the dark side.

Steve:

Uh, why? First of all, Jack was,

Steve:

like, deported.

Steve:

What pole does he have that

Steve:

you would go to him? Blair, you're a fucking

Steve:

Waldorf. You can.

Steve:

You have contacts other

Steve:

than Jack, I would assume. Or at

Steve:

least your parents probably have that poll or

Steve:

Lily or something. You know, I guess Serena offered

Steve:

to go to Lily, but Lily might.

Leif:

I don't think her. I don't think Blair's Parents would.

Steve:

You don't think so? Yeah, I guess. I guess they're just

Steve:

more ultra wealthy but

Steve:

not politically connected the way Lily

Steve:

is.

Leif:

And not, uh, to mention her. Her dad's not even in the

Leif:

country.

Steve:

That's true.

Leif:

So Act 3 begins. Lily is trying

Leif:

to let Rufus down easy about no trick or treaters,

Leif:

but Rufus is still convinced they will come because he told everyone

Leif:

in the building they would be home this year. Eric

Leif:

comes home from school early, hair wet and without his

Leif:

uniform. Lily is concerned, but Eric tells her

Leif:

to ask Jenny what happened.

Steve:

Poor Eric. He did not deserve that.

Leif:

No.

Steve:

And I always love Eric.

Steve:

It was shitty. Also, again, the,

Steve:

uh, the Rufus. Lily's storyline

Steve:

just doesn't match the energy of anything else

Steve:

happening. And this was billed in the beginning as

Steve:

a Halloween episode, sort of.

Steve:

And this is really the only Halloween

Steve:

anything that we see is just this Rufus,

Steve:

Lilly weird stuff.

Leif:

Well, the party was a costume party.

Steve:

Yeah, but were people really wearing a lot of costumes?

Leif:

Everyone's wearing a costume.

Steve:

I guess I wasn't. I guess I was just looking at.

Leif:

Like, it was a thing. It was a themed costume party.

Steve:

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Leif:

Roaring twenties.

Steve:

Oh, right. So they were all wearing, like, gangster stuff. That's

Steve:

right.

Leif:

Flappers.

Steve:

Yeah, you're right.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

Um, I wasn't. I wasn't thinking of that.

Steve:

But now.

Leif:

So the Rufus story definitely

Leif:

reminded me of Freaks and Geeks, the Halloween

Leif:

episode of that show with the mom

Leif:

and dealing with the kids growing up and

Leif:

not really wanting to share Halloween anymore.

Leif:

Yeah, So I definitely felt that, like,

Leif:

reminiscent of that.

Steve:

Yeah, they did it better. But

Steve:

yes.

Leif:

Blair and Dorota are in the dorm getting mani pedis

Leif:

when they are interrupted by Chuck, who arrives with a costume

Leif:

for Blair and an invite to tonight's event.

Steve:

The foot bothering.

Steve:

When Mr. Chuck. When you don't speak with

Steve:

Blair, she brings me for the foot bother.

Leif:

At the loft, Dan and Olivia are debating over

Leif:

gangster or musician for Dan's costume.

Leif:

Serena is also there and comes up with a

Leif:

compromise that will get Kayce off Olivia's

Leif:

back. Olivia reluctantly agrees,

Leif:

but Dan is less understanding of the business

Leif:

of Hollywood.

Steve:

It feels dumb again. It feels like a

Steve:

dumb plot.

Leif:

No way this could possibly go wrong.

Steve:

Yeah. No way this is gonna

Steve:

backfire. I did like Dan in this

Steve:

scene. I thought Dan was funny throughout most

Steve:

of this scene.

Leif:

This little. This little toy gun.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Jenny is trying to deflect regarding the yogurt

Leif:

dumping incident. However, Lily sees right through

Leif:

it. Jenny will still be allowed to go to the party,

Leif:

and Lily won't tell Rufus If Eric still

Leif:

wants to go, Jenny and the minions apologize to

Leif:

Eric.

Steve:

This is where you really. We've

Steve:

known all along. This is where. You see,

Steve:

Lily was a queen. Yeah. That Lily sat

Steve:

on those steps, and we've never.

Leif:

She was a mean girl.

Steve:

She was a mean girl and probably sat on the highest

Steve:

step and was probably the queen when she was there.

Steve:

That's m. That's what I took away from this.

Steve:

When Jenny said, I can't control every girl in the school.

Steve:

And. And Lily said. I think we both know that's not

Steve:

true. And Lily is not like, you did

Steve:

this horrible thing to my son. It was.

Steve:

Ooh, Okay. I. I

Steve:

see what he did.

Steve:

I don't love it. There has to

Steve:

be consequences. But I get it.

Steve:

And I just imagine. I remember

Steve:

Lily was kicked out of school at one point,

Steve:

and Was it Constance that she was kicked out of?

Leif:

She was in California at the time.

Steve:

Okay. And I don't know if

Steve:

we ever really get much of what happened

Steve:

after that, but I could very much see

Steve:

her winding up at Constance and sitting on

Steve:

the Met steps as queen and

Steve:

this hierarchy going back that far,

Steve:

the way that it has been presented, sort of.

Steve:

That's just sort of maybe my headcanon.

Leif:

I don't think it really fits timeline wise.

Steve:

Probably not.

Leif:

But I think she's still queen of

Leif:

New York social scene. And, uh, she's still the mean

Leif:

girl.

Steve:

Yes. And she,

Steve:

more than anything, really understands the

Steve:

role that Jenny has. And maybe

Steve:

she wasn't the queen at Constance, but she was a queen

Steve:

somewhere. And she. Aside, uh, from being. Now

Steve:

she's still the queen. Yes. Obviously, she still

Steve:

is.

Leif:

Going back to. I think might have been the very first

Leif:

episode when Rufus shows up at the school and,

Leif:

like, is trying to find who's in charge.

Leif:

Episode three, where she. He's trying to find who's in charge

Leif:

and, like, the person, like, oh, you don't want to talk to her when she's a bit. When

Leif:

she's mad.

Steve:

Yeah. People are afraid of Lily.

Steve:

Uh, Eric later on when he's

Steve:

like, I wouldn't. I wouldn't want to face my mom.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

Lily is a scary person to

Steve:

have against you. And

Steve:

I. I really feel, for the most part,

Steve:

Lily has become a very good

Steve:

person in many ways, a much better person than

Steve:

when she was abandoning her kids in the beginning when we

Steve:

first met her.

Leif:

Yeah. Now I really wish we could have seen Serena react in

Leif:

the situation.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah. Because I feel like Serena may have punched

Steve:

Jenny in the face and then slapped Eric for

Steve:

defying her Because Serena also is

Steve:

someone who has been on both ends of

Steve:

this.

Leif:

At the club, Chuck receives his liquor license

Leif:

and the guy dropping off lets slip that it was a favor

Leif:

for Jack Bass. Blair plays dumb at first,

Leif:

but when pressed reveals that she is the one who called Jack.

Leif:

Chuck says he still can't trust Blair and

Leif:

disinvites her from the opening. Tonight, Serena

Leif:

chooses to stay and help Chuck rather than go help

Leif:

Blair lick her wounds.

Steve:

And this is where I say that Blair,

Steve:

uh, it's also more later. Serena obviously is

Steve:

going to stay here and do her job to help

Steve:

Chuck. Yeah, that's. That's what her job

Steve:

is right now. Not to make you feel

Steve:

sorry for yourself for

Steve:

betraying Chuck in the first

Steve:

place. And again, how does

Steve:

Jack still have these fucking contacts?

Steve:

Which, uh, as we find out. Well, you know,

Steve:

he doesn't.

Leif:

Yeah, he just apparently has one, at least one friend that

Leif:

can.

Steve:

With a printer.

Leif:

Yes.

Steve:

And it just goes to the fact that Blair. Why would you even

Steve:

trust him in the first place? Why would he

Steve:

be the person you would go to. To try to

Steve:

save Chuck? He hates Chuck.

Leif:

Not a good move.

Steve:

Yeah, not a good all around episode for

Steve:

Blair in her scheminess.

Leif:

And we move it to Act 4. The party has

Leif:

begun and we get a grainy filter as we pan the

Leif:

crowd outside the club. Nate is the first to

Leif:

arrive wearing a suit and fedora. He trades

Leif:

barbs with Serena who is working the door. She

Leif:

tells the bouncer to text her when Patrick

Leif:

arrives.

Steve:

I. So last

Steve:

episode when I made my

Steve:

predictions, I said Nate and Serena are going for each

Steve:

other. And then this episode came on

Steve:

and dropped all of it. They

Steve:

didn't mention anything about

Steve:

the Nate Serena stuff.

Steve:

And I was a little bit like, oh, uh, are they just letting that

Steve:

go? So this scene I

Steve:

thought was

Steve:

fantastic. Just that one.

Steve:

Just two lines to remind everybody. There's

Steve:

still tension here. There is a beef between Nate and

Steve:

Serena and the way Serena. Oh, uh,

Steve:

run out of friends to stab in the back. Well, at least I'm going inside

Steve:

and not working the door. Damn.

Steve:

Just shots fired from both of them.

Steve:

And so I'm glad that they kept that

Steve:

tension for that episode. I

Steve:

still think that there's a, uh, that there is a ship

Steve:

there in the future at some

Steve:

point. I feel like they've

Steve:

flirted with it a couple times. There

Steve:

is the Nate being in love with her in the beginning of the

Steve:

series. And then there was

Steve:

the. Was it the season

Steve:

two finale where they.

Leif:

Season one finale.

Steve:

The season one finale where they both seemed to

Steve:

be Going off together. And there was the rumors of

Steve:

them dating. And I also feel

Steve:

like there was sometime near the end of season

Steve:

two that they did something together.

Steve:

But maybe I'm just thinking of season one.

Leif:

Well, beginning of season two, they kiss at the party.

Leif:

They. End of season two,

Leif:

Blair and Nate were dating.

Steve:

Right. That's right. Okay, my, um,

Steve:

overall point, I just, I do think that they have

Steve:

a chemistry and I've always felt like

Steve:

there's something that has to happen with

Steve:

them at some point. Yeah.

Steve:

So I think that those things often start from a

Steve:

place of tension, and I like to see that

Steve:

tension.

Leif:

In this scene, Jenny and the minions

Leif:

arrive. Jenny tells them that Eric ratted her out to

Leif:

their parents and they have to pretend to be nice

Leif:

for now.

Steve:

Jenny, it sounds like you're gonna get caught

Steve:

when you're like, oh, I have a new

Steve:

plan and it's one that won't get me caught.

Steve:

You're gonna go egg his boyfriend

Steve:

without masks in front of

Steve:

him.

Leif:

Well, I think the point is she knows Lily won't give a fuck about

Leif:

Jonathan.

Steve:

Oh, uh, it's funny because I wouldn't.

Leif:

She barely gave a fuck about Eric.

Steve:

That is true. Like she.

Leif:

She will give. Not a. About

Leif:

Jonathan. Yeah,

Leif:

Rufus probably would, but.

Steve:

Right. That's. And Jonathan is

Steve:

the one who deserved it in the first place. Yeah.

Steve:

Mhm.

Leif:

Blair and Dorota are back in the dorm room playing chess.

Leif:

Dorota is also multitasking by vacuuming at the

Leif:

same time. Blair cheats and Dorota pretends not

Leif:

to notice. Blair gets some flowers from someone

Leif:

not Chuck, and calls for her address.

Leif:

Now she has her.

Steve:

Her maid in the dorm room

Steve:

vacuuming. It's just

Steve:

so Blair and I. Also,

Steve:

the thing that I probably love the most about it

Steve:

is that it keeps Dorota an active

Steve:

character on the show when there's

Steve:

no need or reason for her to be

Steve:

there. And it really establishes that

Steve:

she's not the Waldorf's

Steve:

mate, she's Blair's.

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

Rufus is happily handing out candy to kids that

Leif:

have been escorted into the penthouse for.

Steve:

By Vanya, who then gets paid by

Steve:

Lily, which this seems

Steve:

weird, a little. A little creepy, but

Steve:

I get it.

Leif:

I assume they're relatives of Vanya's,

Leif:

like his nephews or nieces.

Steve:

Oh, my impression was that it was kids that they

Steve:

knew from the building that he

Steve:

was like going to the building kids

Steve:

and bringing them.

Leif:

Well, it's the same kids every time. And they were Lithuanian. That's

Leif:

why I think they're like related to Vanya.

Steve:

Okay, I. I knew that they had

Steve:

repeated kids. I didn't know that they were like

Steve:

necessarily the same kids

Steve:

because he says the thing about the Gaga coming

Steve:

with the. The different hair.

Leif:

Albert Hammond Jr. Of the Strokes is performing in

Leif:

his song in Transit. At the party,

Leif:

Blair finds Chuck and apologizes. It

Leif:

turns out the liquor license was a fake and Jack is the one who

Leif:

sent the flowers. Blair and Chuck still have more

Leif:

to discuss, but they are now working in simpatico

Leif:

to take advantage of the situation.

Steve:

Yeah, Chuck going to use the cops

Steve:

for publicity. It feels very

Steve:

Gossip Girl. It feels very

Steve:

tv. The. I know I'll have the

Steve:

cops and then the party. It is very. Because

Steve:

the actual consequences

Steve:

of doing this, the actual

Steve:

consequences of the raid would be

Steve:

so detrimental to that

Steve:

business.

Leif:

I mean, yes, I know I am m.

Leif:

Basically financial and if you can eat

Leif:

the financial loss, it does make sense that it would work

Leif:

out.

Steve:

So I guess if you. If booking goes

Steve:

up, 50% will cover all the

Steve:

fines. And I

Steve:

guess I feel like it's a very TV

Steve:

solution.

Leif:

Oh, yeah. Uh, but at the same

Leif:

time they would be like have to call

Leif:

someone's uncle that hates him to get a liquor license in the first.

Steve:

Right?

Leif:

Yes, that would. That wouldn't happen.

Steve:

That was also very tv.

Leif:

Jenny is an evil genius. She sells a

Leif:

fake makeup with Eric with a

Leif:

stumble. And however, at the same time, we see that the

Leif:

minions are outside egging Jonathan.

Steve:

Yeah, I thought Jenny. I was

Steve:

kind of hoping she'd just kind of let this shit go

Steve:

again. And I know she can't, but it was also.

Steve:

This is the point where you're becoming shitty. This is

Steve:

now when you're fake to your best friend and

Steve:

really being a shitty person.

Steve:

You're no longer pretending or

Steve:

you're no longer sincere in this friendship because you're just

Steve:

shitting on it right now.

Leif:

Yeah. And we also see. We see

Leif:

Chuck in the background going up and patting Albert Hammond Jr.

Leif:

On the back in the middle of his song.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

What do you think? Do you appreciate that? If someone

Leif:

comes up on stage and like pat you in the middle of.

Steve:

The song, I would.

Steve:

I would be irked. I get mad when

Steve:

people ask me to join me on stage.

Steve:

I get mad when there is

Steve:

somebody who has. A couple times

Steve:

I'd be playing and they would come up

Steve:

and join in on a drum

Steve:

pad and it drives me

Steve:

insane. And the guy is a super nice

Steve:

guy. He runs an open mic. He's an

Steve:

extraordinarily talented musician. When he

Steve:

does that, when he comes up and he plays a Beat

Steve:

behind me without me asking.

Steve:

It's never out of time. It is

Steve:

never bad. I hate

Steve:

it because I have not rehearsed it. I

Steve:

am not prepared for it. So if somebody comes up

Steve:

and pats me on the back mid

Steve:

song, I'm going to be

Steve:

like, what the fuck is that?

Steve:

If it's one of my best friends and

Steve:

they're the owner of the place,

Steve:

maybe. But if it's just the owner of the place and

Steve:

I've never met him before, I'm going to be like,

Steve:

what the fuck? What the fuck, dude? I'm working here. Like you

Steve:

hired me to do a job and I'm doing it. What? Can

Steve:

I help you? Yeah. That would drive me

Steve:

absolutely insane on

Steve:

so many levels. I had a guy give me the finger once

Steve:

because he kept asking to come sing a song with

Steve:

me and I said no,

Steve:

because I'm not going to let you come up here and sing Semi

Steve:

Charmed Life because I don't know that you know the

Steve:

words other than the chorus. And you're going to sit up

Steve:

here and look like a drunk asshole. And I know the words, so

Steve:

I'm going to sing it.

Leif:

Serena meets Patrick, who aggressively starts

Leif:

flirting. Casey is pissed to see Olivia here with

Leif:

Dan. Chuck pushes through the crowd to greet the police

Leif:

who just arrive. Gossip Girl drops this

Leif:

line and the best

Leif:

costume award goes to New York's finest. This

Leif:

party is a bust.

Steve:

Yeah, uh, again, I don't

Steve:

think Chuck, I don't think it's a good idea

Steve:

to call the cops on yourself. I think you should

Steve:

have just shut the shit down. But you

Steve:

do you, Chuck. And I'm sure it's going to work out for

Steve:

Chuck.

Leif:

Act five begins. The police

Leif:

identify the fake liquor license and start boxing up

Leif:

the booze. Serena questions why Chuck

Leif:

isn't trying to stop them. Chuck admits he called the

Leif:

police and Blair explains the plan.

Leif:

Unfortunately, the plan makes Serena look like even

Leif:

more rip flop to Casey. Blair smugly

Leif:

declares, remember when you chose Chuck?

Leif:

Now I did too.

Steve:

Yeah, and that's where she's really.

Steve:

Remember when I took advantage of our best friendship to be

Steve:

able to pull all this bullshit? And then you stayed

Steve:

and did your job. Now I'm gonna

Steve:

screw you over. Also, I think that Serena's a little

Steve:

overreacting that Chuck called the

Steve:

cops. Like your people aren't in any trouble.

Steve:

They're just at this super hot party that just got

Steve:

busted the other side of it.

Steve:

Why aren't any of the cops worried about all

Steve:

of the underage people drinking here?

Steve:

Blair, Serena and Chuck, right

Steve:

there, the owner of this establishment,

Steve:

who probably has alcohol on his breath, was

Steve:

clearly being served here at his bar.

Steve:

Underage. Do you think Chuck didn't talk

Steve:

to the cops at all during that and didn't have a drink

Steve:

all night?

Leif:

You know, uh, age is just a concept

Leif:

construct.

Steve:

And nowhere is that more evident

Steve:

than in Gossip Girl, where you have

Steve:

characters like Aaron dating

Steve:

high school girls who are at

Steve:

bars getting drunk.

Leif:

Back at the penthouse, Rufus reveals he figured out

Leif:

the trick or treaters were the same kids going back with different

Leif:

costumes after the third time. Rufus,

Leif:

for once, doesn't get mad at being schemed.

Leif:

He instead suggests starting some new,

Leif:

more adult Halloween traditions.

Leif:

Good for Rufus.

Steve:

Maybe I just want to knock on one door.

Steve:

Rufus. Did you just call her vagina a, uh, door

Steve:

portal? Maybe.

Leif:

But yeah, good for Rufus for not overreacting

Leif:

for once.

Steve:

Yes. And it was cute. Yeah. Lily.

Steve:

Lily wanted you to have the holiday that you wanted

Steve:

to have. I don't know why you guys just didn't

Steve:

go to the loft and hand out candy

Steve:

there like you've done every year. Because it's still there. And you

Steve:

still could. You could make a, uh, tradition of chilling in

Steve:

Brooklyn. Dan wasn't

Steve:

there, so all those kids that would go there

Steve:

depending on you year after year,

Steve:

nothing.

Leif:

Those poor Brooklyn kids just can't get catch a break.

Steve:

Also, I feel like

Steve:

Rufus at this point being

Steve:

the Rufus Bass. Come on. King

Steve:

size bars. If you really love Halloween the way

Steve:

you say you can afford the king size bars for those

Steve:

kids.

Leif:

He's worried about childhood diabetes.

Steve:

That's okay. You know what? Hell, I'm worried about adult

Steve:

diabetes. I, uh, just came out

Steve:

to my mom yesterday about my

Steve:

diagnosis.

Steve:

Uh, I held that for a couple months

Steve:

because I didn't want to hear about it. And then someone else in the family,

Steve:

my mom was like, one of

Steve:

my siblings is on, uh,

Steve:

Wegovy, I think, or one of the

Steve:

weight loss medications. And

Steve:

my mom said, yeah, it's pre diabetic. I'm like, oh, shit.

Steve:

I'm not letting her go through this alone. So I was like, yeah, me too.

Leif:

Yeah. Dan and Olivia are making

Leif:

out in the empty club. But before they leave,

Leif:

Olivia admits Patrick wasn't her fake

Leif:

boyfriend. And although she feels bad about how things

Leif:

ended with Patrick, she really cares about

Leif:

Dan.

Steve:

Yeah, I thought this was kind of

Steve:

silly of her and. Kind of silly

Steve:

writing to lie right off the bat, but then to be

Steve:

like, it was a lie and I'm caught.

Steve:

Now I feel like honesty from the start.

Steve:

Like, yeah, we were dating but that's acting. That isn't

Steve:

real. That's still a movie. We had

Steve:

our private time when we were private. But

Steve:

that's acting and lighting and movie.

Steve:

Which she does explain in this scene,

Steve:

uh, to which he also brings up

Steve:

the. Now, I don't know. At the

Steve:

time, I don't recall

Steve:

when Caitlyn Jenner came out

Steve:

as trans, but he does mention the Bruce

Steve:

Jenner biopic.

Leif:

Crashing Patrick's career.

Steve:

Crashing his career. Yes. So

Steve:

I. And I meant to look that up and forgot,

Steve:

but was that.

Steve:

Were they dead? Naming Caitlyn Jenner,

Steve:

or was that not a thing yet? Or was that just

Steve:

starting to reveal?

Leif:

I feel like there was. She

Leif:

was public. He publicly came out

Leif:

April 2015.

Steve:

Okay. So I was thinking, okay, six years later,

Steve:

okay, so, no, it's just he had. He was

Steve:

terrible in a Bruce Jenner biopic,

Steve:

which is even better.

Leif:

Serena interrupts Dan and Olivia and pulls them into

Leif:

another room and tricks them into kissing in front of the

Leif:

paparazzi. In the spur of the moment,

Leif:

Serena tells the press that she is dating Patrick

Leif:

Roberts. Patrick seems to be all in for it and

Leif:

pulls Serena in for a dramatic kiss.

Leif:

Gossip Girl narrates.

Leif:

You really proved yourself with this one, S.

Leif:

Looks like your work troubles have just turned into a

Leif:

labor of love.

Steve:

I don't remember if we addressed it, but when they

Steve:

first met, Patrick says, oh,

Steve:

if I knew who I was talking to, I would have been on the phone longer.

Steve:

Some kind of sexual harassment to

Steve:

Serena about how beautiful

Steve:

she is, which Serena, of course, ate up.

Steve:

But, uh, you guys should kiss now.

Steve:

Okay. Oh, well,

Steve:

all right. Obviously. Oh, what's

Steve:

that curtain doing there? It was

Steve:

just so laid out and

Steve:

so goofy. And

Steve:

Serena. It's just,

Steve:

again, the narcissism of

Steve:

Serena. I'm dating him. He'll

Steve:

obviously just go along with this, because look at

Steve:

Serena. He'll obviously want to date Serena

Steve:

Vander Woodson. And there's also

Steve:

the thing that really struck

Steve:

me. Well, if they're not together, who's

Steve:

Patrick dating? Who fucking

Steve:

cares?

Leif:

Obviously, the press does.

Steve:

Uh, and more so that's

Steve:

the whole point of this

Steve:

episode. It's just, wow, that

Steve:

celebrity's nothing if he's not dating anybody.

Steve:

Maybe he just isn't a good actor.

Leif:

I think that is the point.

Steve:

Yeah. Uh, I, uh, mean, exactly. Some

Steve:

careers should fade.

Leif:

Also, it seems like a conflict of

Leif:

interest that Casey is representing both of them.

Steve:

Yeah, it really is.

Leif:

She's, like, sacrificing the more popular client

Leif:

to bring up the less popular one.

Steve:

Yeah. Which is really Bad

Steve:

for Olivia.

Leif:

Yeah. We move into the

Leif:

epilogue. Perez Hilton gets his second

Leif:

name drop of the episode as Blair and Chuck are celebrating

Leif:

their win. Cher has seemingly passed this

Leif:

hurdle, but they both admit they each will

Leif:

always have a duplicitous nature.

Steve:

Perez Hilton. How long

Steve:

were they around before

Steve:

this? I feel like I first started

Steve:

hearing about. Is it a him?

Steve:

Yeah, I feel like I first started hearing about

Steve:

him around

Steve:

this time.

Leif:

So I actually did look this up and, uh, he officially

Leif:

started blogging in 2005, but I think this is

Leif:

around when he started getting popular. Okay.

Steve:

Yeah, I know that now he

Steve:

is a, uh, celebrity gossip

Steve:

go to. So I didn't

Steve:

know at that time. Okay,

Steve:

that makes sense. That's the same timeline that I would

Steve:

have anticipated.

Leif:

Apparently, Vanessa is in Albany for her

Leif:

sister's gig, so Dan and Olivia have the dorm to

Leif:

themselves. Although even when Vanessa comes back, Dan

Leif:

has a whole ass loft to himself.

Steve:

Why go to the dorm? You live alone?

Leif:

I like the connective tissue that Vanessa's band. Her

Leif:

sister's band is still a thing.

Steve:

Yes, that Her.

Leif:

The lesbian.

Steve:

The lesbian punk band. Which I believe they're just calling punk

Steve:

bands.

Steve:

Uh, but again, like, this show is

Steve:

laid out many times. Didn't they also have the lesbian

Steve:

taco bar or something like that? At

Steve:

one point, Nate and Vanessa were talking about it.

Leif:

Yeah, something about lesbian tacos.

Leif:

Jenny gets a confirmation text from Sawyer as she is

Leif:

arriving home. Eric is already hurt as

Leif:

well. Jenny tries to apologize and

Leif:

wants to keep their home and school life separate.

Leif:

Eric sets a justified boundary that he no longer

Leif:

wants to be around her in either world.

Steve:

Yeah, yeah, Jenny, you fucked

Steve:

up. You sat there, made

Steve:

nice while you knew his

Steve:

boyfriend was getting egged and you didn't have to do anything.

Steve:

You really could have found another alternative that just

Steve:

didn't do anything.

Leif:

For once, Casey is actually praising

Leif:

Serena. However, she does point out

Leif:

that her job now includes publicly dating Patrick

Leif:

Roberts. Serena, he turned down Brown to

Leif:

be a literal escort.

Steve:

And she's like, oh, it doesn't sound like it's much work to

Steve:

me.

Leif:

Uh, yeah, You've known.

Steve:

You've known this guy for 30 seconds.

Leif:

And he already sexually harassed you.

Steve:

Did. He already sexually harassed you in his opening

Steve:

bid to meet you, he sexually

Steve:

harassed you. And you're like, well, this guy doesn't seem too

Steve:

bad to date.

Leif:

Uh, poor Serena.

Steve:

I. I'd say that. Only she's. Again, it's

Steve:

the narcissism that. It's just.

Steve:

I can. I'm

Steve:

so invaluable to

Steve:

everybody. Uh, that Obviously this

Steve:

man is going to want me and, and be the perfect

Steve:

person for me.

Leif:

Chuck and Blair are still being affectionate.

Leif:

Chuck and Horace discuss plans for getting around the

Leif:

ABC's restrictions. Serena comes

Leif:

back, uh, into the club and gets Casey's

Leif:

purse. Blair tries to hire Serena to be the

Leif:

club's publicist. But Serena is still pissed off at ah,

Leif:

Blaire choosing Chuck despite having benefited

Leif:

from it. Gossip Girl begins her

Leif:

monologue. Like all good things,

Leif:

the witching hour must come to an end. True

Leif:

natures are revealed.

Steve:

First of all, Chuck, your idea is pretty innovative. I

Steve:

love the. The key. The key to

Steve:

entry speakeasy.

Steve:

It's neat, it's cool. Keep the

Steve:

front door locked and everyone comes in through the back door.

Leif:

It's not very intimate because he actually mentions what? He's copying it.

Leif:

He's copying it from something.

Steve:

Oh, is he? Yeah, I guess he did. I like the idea.

Steve:

I like the gumption behind

Steve:

that idea.

Leif:

The other thing, it also would not work in the 21st

Leif:

century at all.

Steve:

You don't think key card.

Leif:

Yeah, but people would talk about it and oh yeah.

Leif:

Pictures and.

Steve:

Yeah. And be all over the Internet, you

Steve:

know.

Leif:

Huh.

Steve:

You have like check phones at the door and stuff like

Steve:

that. The other thing was

Steve:

Serena. They need a publicist. Your shit with

Steve:

Blair has nothing to do with it. And yes, I know

Steve:

you're mad that Chuck called the cops, but that worked in your favor

Steve:

too, so.

Leif:

Oh yeah, she. I think it was more

Leif:

Blair wanted to hire her away from Casey. She

Leif:

didn't want to hire Casey. She want to hire Serena to

Leif:

be a publicist just for Chuck.

Steve:

And better yet, Serena,

Steve:

because Casey sucks.

Leif:

Yeah, but it kind of defeats the purpose of getting a

Leif:

real job and.

Steve:

The fact that she does even say Casey sucks.

Steve:

But she's my boss. Mhm.

Leif:

You're supposed to be my best friend.

Steve:

Yeah. And Serena does love her

Steve:

job. She seems to really like what she's doing,

Steve:

despite hating her boss who sucks.

Steve:

That's a note in here somewhere.

Leif:

Dan and Olivia are under the covers getting hot and heavy. And

Leif:

Gossip Girl continues. Tricks are turned

Leif:

into treats.

Steve:

Good for them.

Leif:

Chuck and Blair are also turning up the heat while

Leif:

Gossip Girl states. And taking off

Leif:

costumes is as much fun as putting them

Leif:

on.

Steve:

Yeah. Good for them.

Leif:

Yeah. Jenny takes a long

Leif:

look at herself in the mirror before opening her closet and

Leif:

starting the purge that Lily wanted her to do at the beginning of the

Leif:

episode. She even reluctantly tosses her

Leif:

sewing machine aside, metaphorically cutting

Leif:

the last ties to her former self.

Leif:

Gossip Girl concludes with everything

Leif:

returns to the way it was. Except for little

Leif:

girls who forget that Halloween only lasts

Leif:

one night. They wear their costumes for so

Leif:

long, pretty soon they can't even

Leif:

remember who they were before they put them on.

Steve:

Yeah. Jenny tossing your

Steve:

sewing machine that you drug out of the house

Steve:

with you when you ran away.

Leif:

Yeah, uh, that was rough.

Steve:

And so there's a big part of this I blame on

Steve:

Rufus. Had Lily, had Jenny

Steve:

had been allowed to follow

Steve:

her dreams last season

Steve:

and actually fulfill all of the

Steve:

stuff that she was on her way to

Steve:

doing. She right now would still be making

Steve:

clothes, even as, uh, she would have a

Steve:

job doing that. She would be working

Steve:

while finishing high school

Steve:

homeschooled, but would be doing all of this

Steve:

stuff. Jenny would still be making

Steve:

clothes and still love making clothes

Steve:

and wouldn't need to be running a school.

Leif:

Yeah. She wouldn't even be at school.

Steve:

She wouldn't be at school. None of this would be, uh. This

Steve:

whole thing was the problem in the

Steve:

first place. And Jenny said to Rufus over and over

Steve:

that this is the problem with this school.

Steve:

Jenny laid it out why she didn't want to be

Steve:

there, and now she has to be,

Steve:

because Rufus refused to listen and

Steve:

burnt all of her opportunities to do the

Steve:

thing she loved. And now here she is,

Steve:

shoehorned into this role

Steve:

that she doesn't want to be in. Losing her

Steve:

friends and not having any real friends anymore.

Steve:

Because our minions aren't friends. They're just minions.

Leif:

Yeah. The good music streak continues. The scene

Leif:

is scored, uh, by delta spirits. People.

Leif:

Come on.

Steve:

Mhm.

Leif:

And the full kind of quote there from the Gossip Girl

Leif:

is like all

Leif:

good things, the witching hour must come to an

Leif:

end. True natures are revealed,

Leif:

tricks turn into treats, and taking out

Leif:

costumes is as much fun as putting them on.

Leif:

Everything returns to the way it was, except for little

Leif:

girls who forget that Halloween only lasts

Leif:

one night. They wear their costumes for

Leif:

so long, pretty soon they can't remember

Leif:

who they were before they put them on

Leif:

exo. Exo.

Leif:

Gossip Girl. And that is our

Leif:

episode. So what's coming next?

Steve:

I mean, Jenny's exit is

Steve:

barreling towards us at this point. I feel

Steve:

that she's escalating in her

Steve:

behavior and

Steve:

drawing a bigger wedge between her and

Steve:

Eric. I feel like that is going

Steve:

to snowball into

Steve:

Taylor's exit, because I know it happens this

Steve:

season.

Leif:

At some point you say so.

Steve:

That's. I thought that's what you said.

Leif:

I never said that.

Steve:

Oh, uh, for some reason, I thought at one point you told me that she

Steve:

left this season, But I Said.

Leif:

She did leave the show, but I've never said when it is.

Steve:

Oh, I guess I just always assumed it was this

Steve:

season. But all that aside,

Steve:

I know her exit is sending her to boarding school

Steve:

and her behavior is escalating. So I

Steve:

feel like there's going to be a big

Steve:

explosion coming here with Jenny

Steve:

specifically. I. I can't imagine

Steve:

this Dan Olivia thing goes on

Steve:

too, too much longer. I

Steve:

mostly say that because Hilary

Steve:

Duff, I'm sure isn't a full cast

Steve:

member now and is only

Steve:

going to be around for so long. That tends to be

Steve:

how this show operates.

Steve:

I feel like she's definitely had her three

Steve:

episodes, which they often do

Steve:

sort of three episode arcs with a lot of

Steve:

the guests, I've noticed.

Steve:

So I feel like that's kind of wrapping up. I thought

Steve:

Blair and Chuck, I thought this was going to bring them

Steve:

down between last week and this week.

Steve:

But then they end off like, look, we just can't scheme against

Steve:

each other. This is why we work.

Steve:

Let's trust each other. Even though I'm never fully

Steve:

going to trust you. But I guess that's just where we are. Here we go.

Steve:

Now we're back together again. So I'm

Steve:

really thrown by the

Steve:

longitude. I'm really thrown by

Steve:

how long Chuck and Blair have

Steve:

lasted. I don't think any relationship on the

Steve:

show has lasted this

Steve:

long. This is what, six

Steve:

episodes now of them.

Leif:

Dan and Serena were basically together for the.

Leif:

Basically, uh, all season one.

Steve:

Oh, I guess so. I kept feeling like they were together than

Steve:

not then.

Leif:

Weird like that. They had a lot of like false

Leif:

starts but they were always going

Leif:

trending towards dating at the beginning of the season

Leif:

one. And then work together until

Leif:

they broke up at the end.

Steve:

Yeah. And then got back together a couple times

Steve:

too in season two also.

Leif:

Mhm.

Steve:

Definitely for Blair though. Well,

Steve:

Blair and Nate were together for the whole first half of

Steve:

the first season too. I guess that

Steve:

Blair and Nate were together.

Leif:

I think they basically broke up as

Leif:

episode seven officially. And then

Leif:

they got back together for a couple episodes

Leif:

and then broke up again at episode uh,

Leif:

thirteen.

Steve:

Yeah, I thought thirteen is the one that I

Steve:

remember them. That's where she sleeps with Chuck.

Leif:

Yeah, she sleeps with chuck in

Leif:

episode seven.

Steve:

Oh, Nate finds out about it in 13. That's

Steve:

thin line between nut, uh, chicken.

Leif:

Yeah. Because they break up and she immediately

Leif:

goes and fucks Chuck.

Steve:

Yeah. And then.

Leif:

And then, but it's a secret. And they get back

Leif:

together at Tellia, which I believe is episode 10.

Leif:

And then they're together for three episodes. Again.

Steve:

And then the Nate finds out. Yeah. And

Steve:

they break up for good.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

Yes. Yeah. So again, they were together for.

Steve:

So.

Steve:

Yes. Those relationships were longer,

Steve:

I feel like since season

Steve:

one then maybe. No. Nothing has lasted

Steve:

more than two or three episodes. Even the ones

Steve:

that seemed like they were, like a couple times when Dan and

Steve:

Serena started trending back together. And then it would be

Steve:

like the next episode. Oh, well, this is why we can't date.

Steve:

Whereas we've had a few

Steve:

this season of this is why we can't date. But

Steve:

we're going to anyway. The whole Chuck,

Steve:

I'm Chuck Bass, and you need to be better than this to

Steve:

deserve me. When Blair was spiraling. High

Steve:

school spiraling. And then last week with

Steve:

Blair and the kiss and

Steve:

the scheming against Chuck and. And, you know,

Steve:

needing Blair needing to hear, it's not about the kiss, it's

Steve:

about the scheming. But I. I'm

Steve:

now no longer just waiting for them to blow

Steve:

up, because now I see that they keep finding

Steve:

ways to make it work, if that makes sense.

Steve:

So I think that they've got more time left than I

Steve:

originally anticipated.

Leif:

So how do you think they're going to break out, Dan and Olivia?

Steve:

I feel like that's an easy thing. Olivia has to

Steve:

go away somewhere. Olivia has a shoot

Steve:

somewhere. There are

Steve:

many different ways Dan gets judgy about

Steve:

something in the Hollywood profession,

Steve:

like he started to in this episode. That

Steve:

could have spiraled for Dan.

Leif:

I mean, I think that's something to rightfully be kind of

Leif:

judgy about.

Steve:

You're not wrong. You're not wrong. I'm not blaming

Steve:

Dan, but the Hollywoodness

Steve:

of it all is gonna get to him. It has to.

Leif:

Well, uh, let's go ahead and get into some segments

Leif:

this week in fan. And we jumped into the wayback machine

Leif:

to travel to the fan forum from

Leif:

2009. Hello

Leif:

there, Peabody here. And this is the

Leif:

wayback M machine for traveling through time. And this is

Leif:

my boy, Sherman. Speak, Sherman.

Steve:

Hello.

Leif:

Good boy. Overall, more

Leif:

positive than negative.

Leif:

Yeah, Most people liked it.

Leif:

They, too, also noticed the obvious Twilight

Leif:

references.

Steve:

Oh, yeah. All over the place.

Leif:

Patrick Roberts or Robert Pattison.

Steve:

Yeah, yeah. Patrick Roberts was.

Leif:

Dan and Olivia are actually cute.

Steve:

Yeah, I. I agree.

Leif:

They're fun.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Dan and Nate are also fun.

Steve:

Yeah. Oh, always. Always.

Leif:

Everyone looked great this episode.

Leif:

Sure.

Steve:

I. I can't think of anyone who

Steve:

didn't. Chuck's hair was good. This episode, too

Steve:

Pretty, even mix between.

Leif:

Eric and team Jenny. Although one user

Leif:

did say that Jenny looks like she smells like

Leif:

farts.

Steve:

I don't get that. I don't think she

Steve:

does.

Leif:

I've seen people with smell like farts. They don't look like Jenny.

Steve:

Yeah. I feel

Steve:

like I'm pretty evenly split

Steve:

between Eric and Jenny for this

Steve:

episode as a whole. That

Steve:

I feel like Jenny is in a tough position

Steve:

and being shitty because of the position

Steve:

she's in. I feel like Eric

Steve:

let things take place that forced this

Steve:

issue and rocked the boat for

Steve:

Jenny. Jonathan didn't need to do

Steve:

what he did.

Leif:

Yeah. They were intentionally provoking a, uh,

Leif:

reaction.

Steve:

Yeah. And got one. And then they were mad about it.

Leif:

And I was definitely more team Jenny. The one thing I

Leif:

would say, I would have gone again after Eric. I mean, after

Leif:

Jonathan. From the beginning.

Steve:

From the beginning. Yes. That it was Jonathan who did

Steve:

it, not Eric.

Leif:

Yeah. The. The person who says that, uh, Jenny looks like she's swallowing

Leif:

farts has clearly never been to a warhammer

Leif:

convention.

Steve:

I was. I was thinking, you know, I've played in

Steve:

enough game stores to know what someone smells

Steve:

like. Smells like farts looks like.

Leif:

And last note was Serena has pretty much

Leif:

forgotten about Eric, you know, the whole reason she returned to New

Leif:

York.

Steve:

Yeah. Yep. Yeah. And

Steve:

now, once again, Eric. At least Eric

Steve:

has Jonathan. He doesn't have Lily.

Steve:

Lily's like, oh, damn. Well, you should apologize to my

Steve:

kid that you did that to. But I get it.

Steve:

But how dare he?

Leif:

Going on over to episode grades. I went

Leif:

first last time, so you were up first this week.

Steve:

All right, Episode grade. I gave this one a solid B.

Steve:

I didn't really love the Rufus

Steve:

Lilly storyline. I thought there were a few

Steve:

other points that it would just be. There were

Steve:

just kind of holes

Steve:

maybe. But overall, I was entertained, so I

Steve:

gave it a B. I didn't buy.

Leif:

In the Rufus and Lily storyline. It was only, what, three scenes out of

Leif:

40 some.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah.

Leif:

Overall, it was a good episode. Wasn't

Leif:

one of the top tier, so I, uh, kept it, uh, at a B

Leif:

plus.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah. I feel like this is a real middle of the

Steve:

road. They. They did. They gave us everything

Steve:

we wanted from a Gossip Girl episode. But it

Steve:

wasn't thin line between Chuck and Nate

Steve:

or it wasn't Poison Ivy.

Leif:

Let's get on over to stock watch. Who do you got

Leif:

going up, Serena?

Steve:

I have Chuck and Blair both going

Steve:

up by the end. Dan and Olivia

Steve:

both going up. I have Rufus

Steve:

going up. Got his Halloween.

Steve:

And late Patrick

Steve:

has a new girlfriend. His career is back on track.

Steve:

I have Horace having a nice new job.

Steve:

Uh, and that is everyone. I have Going up, I

Steve:

had pretty.

Leif:

Close to the same list. I did not have Patrick. I just

Leif:

didn't really think of him. Uh, but I did have Chuck and Blair

Leif:

because they were, they worked things out. The end. I

Leif:

had Jenny going up because she is taking

Leif:

power. And you know, even though

Leif:

I didn't like everything she did, she is definitely

Leif:

making a power play. Rufus

Leif:

and Lily, they go up because they had, you know, cute little

Leif:

thing going on and no one freaked out and everything worked

Leif:

out. Dan and Olivia for the same thing. They added their little bump

Leif:

in the road, but it worked out fine.

Leif:

Serena, because she's finally starting to impress

Leif:

Kayce.

Steve:

Mhm.

Leif:

Don't know how long that's gonna last. But now that she's dating

Leif:

Patrick and then yes, I also had Horace as

Leif:

well because Horace is awesome.

Steve:

Horace is awesome. Uh,

Steve:

so I actually did have Jenny going

Steve:

down. And for me it

Steve:

was, uh,

Steve:

your take is completely accurate that she has

Steve:

now taken control and

Steve:

is the boss now. I

Steve:

kind of saw it as the old Jenny

Steve:

is done. Uh, the old Jenny is dead.

Steve:

And so that's sort of a rock bottom in a way for

Steve:

me. So I had Jenny going down

Steve:

because of that because the old Jenny is now

Steve:

gone. At least all

Steve:

the symbolism is there of getting rid of that

Steve:

Jenny. So I feel like this is her

Steve:

reboot starting from a new zero.

Steve:

Sort of that. I. Oh

Steve:

no. I also had Eric and Jonathan going down because

Steve:

they got, uh, bullied hard.

Leif:

So I, I did have Eric and Jonathan because yeah, they,

Leif:

they got bullied hard. I also had Jack Bass because his

Leif:

scheme failed. Oh, and

Leif:

originally I had Nate as neutral,

Leif:

but on second watch I had to give him down because he

Leif:

shamed Serena just for having a job.

Leif:

Check your privilege, Nate. Check your privilege.

Steve:

Check your privilege, guy. Guy

Steve:

who. Guy who didn't have a home

Steve:

a season ago, who

Steve:

only. Who only had a house in

Steve:

the Hamptons.

Steve:

But here's the best outfits from the last

Steve:

episode we've seen.

Leif:

That is it for Stockwatch. Who do you have for

Leif:

best outfit?

Steve:

Um, that party, the Blair's party dress

Steve:

that Chuck got her. I loved that. The white

Steve:

and the frills on it. And then

Steve:

of course tied together with the rest of her flapper gear.

Steve:

I thought she looked fantastic.

Leif:

So I also had Blair, but her pre

Leif:

party outfit where she was at the bar and a couple

Leif:

other scenes. It uh, was like a salmon colored

Leif:

belted skirt with a, uh,

Leif:

pattern blouse from Millie.

Steve:

Yeah, yeah. Also really cool.

Steve:

And shout out to Serena's dress. And I feel like she had

Steve:

the same thing on throughout most of the episode.

Steve:

But that dress she was wearing, at least throughout the first

Steve:

half, it was really, it was a nice dress.

Leif:

Her party dress. Uh, the

Leif:

mandatory cleavage recommendation keeps me upset.

Steve:

Yep. Uh, we were reviewing your contract

Steve:

and we realized there's only 3.5 inches of

Steve:

cleavage in all of these dresses you've been wearing. So we're going

Steve:

to need to make this next 110 so that the average

Steve:

cleavage length ends up at the 7 that we agreed

Steve:

on. Yes.

Leif:

That is it for segments, though. What do you got

Leif:

to plug this week?

Steve:

I don't have a whole lot to plug

Steve:

right now. I was watching I'm trying

Steve:

to get into Invincible. My kids are trying to make me

Steve:

get into Invincible. I loved the first season, was

Steve:

okay with the second and now I'm just kind of

Steve:

detached, so I'm trying to

Steve:

watch that. But I'm also really into the Daredevil. The

Steve:

new, uh, Daredevil born

Steve:

again. You can also find me on

Steve:

Instagram and TikTok Steve

Steve:

Marshon M A r C H I O n

Steve:

Or you can find me on bluesky at the Weed

Steve:

Wizard. And I believe that's all

Steve:

I'm plugging for me.

Leif:

I was a last minute fill in on Far in the

Leif:

Fable. So that episode is already out. It is

Leif:

season eight, episode 20 titled Beast.

Leif:

So that was a fun time on it. It's a, uh,

Leif:

podcast. Talking about Smallville is my second time on

Leif:

the podcast and yeah, we had a fun

Leif:

time.

Steve:

Nice.

Leif:

And if you want to follow me on social media, you can

Leif:

find me on Instagram and bluesky

Leif:

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Leif:

t C a P I c

Leif:

o L a And if you want to follow the

Leif:

podcast, we're on threads TikTok and

Leif:

Instagram. Um, at non judging Breakfast Pod. You

Leif:

can also find links to our

Leif:

Patreon and our Discord server on our

Leif:

website nonjudging breakfastpod.com

Leif:

and if you'd like.

Steve:

To get in touch with us, we would love to hear your thoughts. So

Steve:

please go ahead and send us an email at non

Steve:

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Steve:

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Steve:

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Steve:

Also while you're listening, if you don't mind

Steve:

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Steve:

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Steve:

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Steve:

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Steve:

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Steve:

go ahead and tell your friends what you're listening to. Let us

Steve:

Be your weekly conversation about

Steve:

the things you listen to about Gossip Girl that

Steve:

you never caught the first six times you watched the show.

Leif:

And we will be back next week to talk about season

Leif:

three, episode eight, the

Leif:

Grandfather Part two.

Steve:

Yeah, I'm excited

Steve:

when I saw the name of it. The

Steve:

Grandfather Part two. I

Steve:

low key love grandfather

Steve:

just because of how

Steve:

horrible and unrepentant

Steve:

unrepentant he is.

Steve:

He's Emperor Palpatine

Steve:

in New York and I

Steve:

love that.

Leif:

And the Max episode description reads,

Leif:

olivia appears on the Jimmy Fallon's talk

Leif:

show.

Steve:

I actually did see that

Steve:

blurb when just on

Steve:

hbo. The. And I'm

Steve:

excited for that too. I'm not a

Steve:

huge Fallon talk

Steve:

show fan.

Leif:

I can't stand him.

Steve:

I. I loved him at a

Steve:

time and then he just, he

Steve:

really wore on me. So at this

Steve:

point, and it, uh, was even a

Steve:

few years before the whole thing, that he apparently treats his

Steve:

staff like shit. Which when that stuff comes out, I'm like, really?

Steve:

A talk show host treats their staff like shit? I only

Steve:

thought that was all of them.

Steve:

Again, like I said earlier, I don't feel like you get to a

Steve:

certain level of fame without treating people like

Steve:

shit.

Leif:

And I mean

Leif:

a talk show and, you know, it's their

Leif:

assistance, you're supposed to order them.

Leif:

That's part of the job description.

Steve:

It really is. And you have a

Steve:

show that has to meet certain

Steve:

quality and certain time. And

Steve:

I've worked in theater, only

Steve:

high school and college theater. But even in those

Steve:

situations when it's at

Steve:

a certain level of expectation,

Steve:

you get yelled at.

Leif:

It's high pressure.

Steve:

It is. You get yelled at. And again, I'm not making

Steve:

excuses for him being shitty. I'm

Steve:

more saying I'm never

Steve:

surprised when someone says a

Steve:

celebrity, especially someone who's on a

Steve:

show that that is recorded five days

Steve:

a week, that has to be recorded and aired

Steve:

that night. That's high

Steve:

pressure. And shitty people get those jobs

Steve:

because they are shitty to people. Yeah.

Leif:

Well, until next time. You know you love

Leif:

us.

Steve:

Xoxo.

Steve:

Every time you walk away, run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there

Steve:

Every time you walk away run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there

Steve:

Every time you walk away, run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there

Steve:

oh, it seems I'm walking right to

Steve:

your.

Steve:

Door.

Steve:

My heart still resting looking for

Steve:

something more

Steve:

are you ever gonna see everything you mean to

Steve:

me I'm trying really hard to believe

Steve:

Every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there

Steve:

Every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there

Steve:

Every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with with you there

Steve:

never feels right when I'm out here on

Steve:

my own

Steve:

I left last night and it feels like

Steve:

way too long m

Steve:

are you ever gonna see everything you mean

Steve:

to me I'm trying really hard to believe

Steve:

every time you walk away run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you you there

Steve:

Every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there

Steve:

every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there

Steve:

come back.

Steve:

To me.

Steve:

Smile and you'll make my.

Steve:

Life complete.

Steve:

Every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there

Steve:

every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there

Steve:

uh Every time you walk away or run away you take

Steve:

a piece of me with you there

Steve:

every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you you there

Steve:

Every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve:

piece of me with you there

Steve:

uh Every time you walk away or run

Steve:

away you take a piece of me with you

Steve:

there mhm Every time you walk

Steve:

away or run away you take a piece of me

Steve:

with you there every

Steve:

time you walk away or run away you take a piece of

Steve:

me you with you there.