Episode 5
Gossip Girl S1E05 - Dare Devil
Leif and Steve do a spoiler free after watch of the OG Gossip Girl.
This week the guys break down Season 1, episode 5 titled Dare Devil.
Dan makes elaborate plans to impress Serena on their first official date; Jenny is invited to the infamous Blair Waldorf sleepover and finds herself in a high-stakes game of truth or dare; Lily discovers Eric missing from his treatment center, and seeks help from her ex-boyfriend, Rufus. – IMDB
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Edited and mixed by Leif Capicola.
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>> Steve: And I remember watching this moment and
Speaker:being like, holy shit. Is this my first glimpse
Speaker:at Lincoln Hawk? Because he's holding the
Speaker:album, and I.
Speaker:>> Leif: Believe they, uh, intended it to be.
Speaker:>> Steve: That it felt that way. Yeah, it felt.
Speaker:>> Leif: Um, this song is
Speaker:not on Spotify or apple.
Speaker:Hey, upper east siders, and all you scandal loving listeners out
Speaker:there, you've just tuned into the non judging breakfast
Speaker:pod, where the coffee is strong, the
Speaker:waffles are fresh, and the gossip is hotter than
Speaker:ever. My name is Leif, and I'm your seasoned gossip
Speaker:girl veteran.
Speaker:>> Steve: And I'm Steve the newbie. The
Speaker:greenhorn. I don't know. What do you call
Speaker:the new kid on the block in Gossip girl terms,
Speaker:Leif?
Speaker:>> Leif: I think they would label you as a
Speaker:project. Uh, yeah. The girls have the potential to be a blair.
Speaker:>> Steve: Well, then dress me in an Eleanor Waldorf
Speaker:original, and let's get started.
Speaker:>> Leif: Sounds good.
Speaker:>> Steve: So here's the deal, folks. Leif has been watching
Speaker:Gossip girl since it came out. I'm just
Speaker:watching for the very first time, and together, we're your
Speaker:dynamic duo, dissecting the drama,
Speaker:the glamour, and the sometimes
Speaker:questionable fashion choices of this iconic
Speaker:2007 series.
Speaker:>> Leif: That's right. Each week, we're going to break down all the
Speaker:schemes, secret hookups, and couture
Speaker:catastrophes, and trust me, there are a few of them.
Speaker:>> Steve: And, um, since we are all about inclusivity here at the non
Speaker:judging breakfast pod, there is always room
Speaker:for you at the non judging breakfast table, whether
Speaker:you are a old veteran like Leif
Speaker:or a newbie like me. Go grab your
Speaker:mimosa or a
Speaker:cup of coffee or maybe some of nate and Chuck
Speaker:special medicine if it's that kind of morning. And let's get
Speaker:into it.
Speaker:>> Leif: All right. This week, we're going to be breaking down season one,
Speaker:episode five, daredevil. Did, uh,
Speaker:you catch the reference?
Speaker:>> Steve: I'm assuming Daredevil,
Speaker:uh, the comic book character, probably. A little more
Speaker:specifically. The movie would have come out
Speaker:shortly beforehand.
Speaker:>> Leif: Ben Affleck.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, the Ben Affleck version.
Speaker:Who?
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah, we won't talk about that. Uh,
Speaker:the IMD episode description for
Speaker:reads. Dan makes elaborate plans to impress
Speaker:Serena on their first date. Jenny is invited to
Speaker:the infamous Blair Waldorf sleepover and finds herself
Speaker:in a high stakes game of truth or dare. Lily
Speaker:discovers Eric missing from the treatment center and seeks
Speaker:help from her ex boyfriend Rufus.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, a lot, uh, a lot definitely takes place in this
Speaker:episode.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yes, it was, uh, directed by
Speaker:Jamie Babbitt. Um, done a lot of tv.
Speaker:Russian doll, Gilmore girls, Malcolm in the
Speaker:middle, United States, Atara
Speaker:Niptuck, Silicon Valley, the
Speaker:Oroville. Lots of stuff.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, and the orville. I mean, that's also. That's really recent.
Speaker:The league of their own, if that's the series. Yeah, it was
Speaker:just, you know, that was so.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah, she's. She's steadily working.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: Uh, and then it was written by a. Lan
Speaker:K. Rosenfeld, who, uh, did 22 episodes
Speaker:of Gossip Girl.
Speaker:>> Steve: It's a good run.
Speaker:>> Leif: Anyways, we'll go ahead and get right into the
Speaker:episode. Act one begins.
Speaker:Preparation begins in the Waldorf penthouse for the
Speaker:annual sleepover.
Speaker:>> Steve: Um, the first thing that I noticed about this is that
Speaker:you have Blair, who,
Speaker:um, we've discussed her
Speaker:relationship with food before
Speaker:and how she's often body shamed by
Speaker:her mom, doesn't eat a lot when we see
Speaker:her around food, yet she surrounds
Speaker:herself at these parties with just
Speaker:decadence and. And
Speaker:cakes and foods that she's never
Speaker:gonna. Never gonna touch.
Speaker:>> Leif: Mm hmm. Um, yep.
Speaker:Uh, yes. Ah, yes, she is. Uh, definitely.
Speaker:Yeah. Ah, she's bringing out all the food and
Speaker:looks like a pretty fun party. Dan
Speaker:and Rufus, uh, discuss his date with Serena in
Speaker:Rufus's art gallery. Dan questions why Rufus
Speaker:hasn't told Allison about the sale of her
Speaker:painting.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: Um.
Speaker:>> Steve: Ah, a lot of the father son sort of stuff,
Speaker:but also, you know, the. You're
Speaker:seeing the communication issues with Dan and. Or
Speaker:with Rufus and his wife.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah. Um, he wants to
Speaker:go. Go and visit her.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, and tell him. Yeah, he wants to tell her.
Speaker:>> Leif: Dan suggests that, uh, this might be better with a phone call.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, and
Speaker:good advice. Really good advice.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah. It would have been much worse if you actually should.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: I think some fists would have been thrown.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah. Uh, if a fist
Speaker:could travel through a phone. But we'll get
Speaker:there.
Speaker:>> Leif: In the hall at coston, Serena hits up, uh, jenny for
Speaker:information on the mysterious date, but Jenny plays
Speaker:coyote. Serena receives a phone call from
Speaker:eric, who is coming home from the hospital.
Speaker:>> Steve: Um, I love the line
Speaker:of, um, humphrey
Speaker:men. Casual Friday is every
Speaker:day. Um, while
Speaker:she has no idea about what is going on with
Speaker:this date, she's preparing Serena
Speaker:for her idea of what a
Speaker:typical humphrey date would be,
Speaker:which.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yes.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: And blair invites Serena to her
Speaker:sleepover, but Serena has plans with dan.
Speaker:Jenny gets the invite instead. What? Is Blair
Speaker:scheming?
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Um. Um, she is
Speaker:totally. She's totally up to something. Um.
Speaker:Um, I also love the
Speaker:who me who her with the
Speaker:catty and is in the background.
Speaker:Cottie. Yeah, cottie. And is in the background.
Speaker:Um, you know, they. I
Speaker:love when they have their little moments, I always
Speaker:appreciate them, and that was a neat little one.
Speaker:>> Leif: Um, lily and eric are back
Speaker:at the hospital, and lily is forcing eric to stay in the
Speaker:hospital despite the doctors saying it would be okay to come
Speaker:home.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Lily can't face this. Lily still
Speaker:can't face.
Speaker:Eric has these issues. Eric,
Speaker:she doesn't know how to explain it properly.
Speaker:Um, and she doesn't know how to
Speaker:parent eric.
Speaker:>> Leif: Well, also, I think, as we find out later,
Speaker:she blames herself
Speaker:because he's been lonely. Cause
Speaker:she's not been around, and Serena's been at boarding school.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, well, yeah, and.
Speaker:>> Leif: And she's always off with the next guy and
Speaker:traping around the world.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: Drape scene.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: Dan arrives to pick up Serena, has
Speaker:and has to ad lib and change into something a little more
Speaker:formal when she sees dan in a suit. While serena
Speaker:is changing, lily arrives. Dan makes a joke that liz
Speaker:is, elicits half a smile from lily. The
Speaker:preceding jokes don't land as well.
Speaker:Um.
Speaker:>> Steve: Um, yeah, and
Speaker:for one, um. Um, we
Speaker:have Serena changing in front of dan
Speaker:sort of. Again, not not necessarily in front
Speaker:of, but, like, talking. Talking.
Speaker:Yeah. Uh, very confident
Speaker:about. Yeah, about her body
Speaker:and not. And not feeling that. That
Speaker:type of that shame, you know?
Speaker:>> Leif: Um, ah, whereas you can
Speaker:never imagine Blair doing this in front of Nate.
Speaker:>> Steve: No, no.
Speaker:>> Leif: Blair, even though they've been dating for years.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, exactly. And
Speaker:struggle to find, you know,
Speaker:the right moment for their own. For their
Speaker:own sex, you know?
Speaker:Um, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: If you're. If you're 17 and you've been dating that long and it's not
Speaker:happened, there's a reason.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, there's other reasons. There's other reasons.
Speaker:Um, but also that that interaction with Dan and
Speaker:Lily where you once again, see that
Speaker:awkward side of Dan where he's,
Speaker:you know, where he tries to be funny and
Speaker:he's. He tends to be more confident with
Speaker:Lilly and tends to be more confident around
Speaker:people that he doesn't
Speaker:like, that don't like him, and he's kind of written
Speaker:off. And since Lily has always had this
Speaker:adversarial relationship with Dan, Dan
Speaker:doesn't mind going at Lily.
Speaker:Um, but then he also kind of has that moment where
Speaker:he's like, I am taking this person's daughter on a
Speaker:date, and then he kind of tones it back
Speaker:and apologizes and gets a little awkward.
Speaker:Um, but, yeah,
Speaker:but she also doesn't seem to hate him as
Speaker:much.
Speaker:>> Leif: She's warming up a little bit.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, a little bit.
Speaker:>> Leif: And Dan and Serena step out onto the
Speaker:sidewalk. Serena sees a vespa and assumes it
Speaker:stands. You know what they say when you
Speaker:assume.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, she is. So she climbs on it.
Speaker:She is so excited to have such
Speaker:a Brooklyn date. We're gonna do something like
Speaker:ride around on a Vespa. Dope. Oh,
Speaker:man, I'm so glad because, you know, I'm used to just, like, getting into
Speaker:someone's car and going to a fancy restaurant.
Speaker:>> Leif: Ah. Uh, Jenny
Speaker:nervously arrives at the sleepover.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Um, Taylor
Speaker:Mumpson's acting in that moment is
Speaker:just absolutely
Speaker:impeccable. I
Speaker:totally took me to my own daughter. When
Speaker:you get my daughter in that moment when she's embarrassed
Speaker:and she's caught off guard,
Speaker:that look on her face
Speaker:and also the way that she gets there and has
Speaker:that recognition, realizes she's out of her
Speaker:league and has to step it up and just
Speaker:kind of meets that, like.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: So, uh, good.
Speaker:>> Steve: Everything. Everything in her face in
Speaker:that scene is just
Speaker:perfect.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker:And that is the act break. As we moved into act
Speaker:two, we are at a french
Speaker:restaurant. Dan is bobbing.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: Ah.
Speaker:>> Steve: He is tanking this entire
Speaker:date. He's. He, you know, he's looking
Speaker:at the menu and. Oh, yeah, I'm not going to order the
Speaker:thing I actually want because the appetizer is
Speaker:the thing I can afford. Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: Uh, yeah. Uh, as the waiter walks away, he changed. He's like, I'll just have the
Speaker:appetizers.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cuz. Cuz sereno. Yeah.
Speaker:Serena walked away, and he's like, hey, how much
Speaker:was that? Yeah. All right, I'll just get. Yeah, I'll
Speaker:get the appetizer. And.
Speaker:Yeah, it was. He just.
Speaker:It's, you know, I've been. I've been
Speaker:on that date. I have been that guy on that. No,
Speaker:no, I wanted the salad. I have
Speaker:never wanted the salad.
Speaker:>> Leif: At the sleepover. The other Humphrey is killing
Speaker:it. But can lil j keep up with this high stakes
Speaker:game? The drinks are coming out.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, and. And I don't like
Speaker:vodka.
Speaker:>> Leif: It's, uh, gin, honey.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. The way a Martini's supposed to
Speaker:be. Blair, I hear
Speaker:you. I feel you shouldn't be
Speaker:drinking. You're 17 years old.
Speaker:But met you are. Right.
Speaker:Um, but also, I love, you know, here's Jenny,
Speaker:you know. No, I don't. Instead of. No, I don't
Speaker:drink. No, I don't like that
Speaker:drink. That's not what it
Speaker:is. And it's, you know, she.
Speaker:Yeah, but she goes with it.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah. Which, you know, most kids
Speaker:probably would.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. And I never
Speaker:get the impression that Jenny is really
Speaker:drunk throughout it. So
Speaker:she definitely has the impression of
Speaker:someone who either can already
Speaker:hold their liquor anyway, which I don't think so,
Speaker:because I really got the impression she didn't drink.
Speaker:So more likely, she's really good at
Speaker:being subtle at how much she's drinking,
Speaker:which. That's an art, too.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah.
Speaker:And Rufus tries calling Allison and
Speaker:hangs up when a man answers the phone.
Speaker:Rufus is devastating.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah. Not a good lookout.
Speaker:>> Leif: Oh, she just got out of the shower.
Speaker:>> Steve: I'm. I'm friend.
Speaker:Oh.
Speaker:>> Leif: Uh,
Speaker:uh, poor
Speaker:Rufus.
Speaker:>> Steve: Poor Rufus.
Speaker:>> Leif: Uh.
Speaker:We return to the worst date ever, and it is revealed
Speaker:Serena secretly paid for dinner. The pair
Speaker:finally communicate, and things are looking up.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. And I loved this moment
Speaker:because we are kind of caught in a
Speaker:cliche of the bombing the date and bombing the
Speaker:date by going to the place thats too expensive and
Speaker:out of your league. And the way that
Speaker:Serena comes back, and she's like,
Speaker:I already paid for it. And he's like, I can pay for
Speaker:this. I know you can, but you shouldn't
Speaker:have to spend your money here. Like, uh,
Speaker:the whole idea of, like, this. I can have this anytime.
Speaker:Take me where you want to take me. Take me on
Speaker:your date. And that just really
Speaker:felt. It felt like a
Speaker:much better resolution than we often
Speaker:get in teen
Speaker:dramas.
Speaker:>> Leif: Well, yeah, they learn that
Speaker:communication helps the relationship.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: And let's. Let's.
Speaker:>> Steve: Let's.
Speaker:>> Leif: Hopefully, they, uh. Uh, they can keep that lesson.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: All.
Speaker:>> Steve: Ah.
Speaker:>> Leif: Right. And then back at the
Speaker:sleepover, the drinks continue to flow. When Jenny gets
Speaker:an so's text from Eric on, Blair
Speaker:dares Jenny to break Eric out of the hospital.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yes. And,
Speaker:man, this is so great, too. When. When
Speaker:Jenny. Because you see that Jenny, you
Speaker:know, wants to do this, she
Speaker:knows that it's. That it's trouble, but she
Speaker:wants to do it. You know, she wants
Speaker:to rescue Eric, and.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: And that is the end of act two. And we go to
Speaker:act three. Jenny arrives at Eric's
Speaker:room as Blair is faking being wasted to distract the
Speaker:floor nurses. Somehow, the scheme works, and they
Speaker:get Eric out. First of all,
Speaker:great acting by Layton, but second, all
Speaker:the security is horrible at this place.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, I'm just going to say, in general,
Speaker:the practices of the Ostrov
Speaker:center, the security, the.
Speaker:Yeah, you can go to that party.
Speaker:>> Leif: But you can't go.
Speaker:>> Steve: There's. There's a bit of questionable
Speaker:methodology going on there. Um, but
Speaker:also, Leighton, when it's
Speaker:like, uh, what's the line
Speaker:where she says, I'm on this. I'm on this.
Speaker:I'm on all the Pams.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah. Mouths of Pam.
Speaker:All the pams. Really?
Speaker:>> Steve: All the pams. Really?
Speaker:>> Leif: That was great. Um, and
Speaker:then Lily receives a call that Eric
Speaker:has escaped with a young, beautiful blonde
Speaker:girl. Lily, of course, assumes
Speaker:Serena.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Because as we've. As we
Speaker:know, Serena and jenny,
Speaker:practically identical twins.
Speaker:>> Leif: It's easy to mix them up.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah. They're just, what,
Speaker:like, five inch height difference.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah. All,
Speaker:uh, right.
Speaker:And then at the pool, the date is
Speaker:finally looking up as Dan is apparently good enough to
Speaker:win money at pool.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Um. Um, again,
Speaker:we're. We're back in. In a cliche
Speaker:date, but I also I'm not
Speaker:upset with it because I feel like we actually see Dan
Speaker:being Dan and
Speaker:being more natural and Serena
Speaker:getting to. Actually get to know him
Speaker:and, you know. Yeah, actually, and
Speaker:actually be outside of her comfort
Speaker:zone, which.
Speaker:Where I, uh, not that I don't really feel Serena has a
Speaker:comfort zone. You know, I feel like she's
Speaker:comfortable anywhere, wherever she goes. She's just got
Speaker:that confidence. Um, but,
Speaker:you know, it is out of her routine,
Speaker:out of her norm.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah. And then Rufus
Speaker:receives a phone call from lily, who is looking for
Speaker:Daniel, who is with Serena, who may or may not be
Speaker:with Eric, and he's.
Speaker:>> Steve: So fuck off about it, too. And
Speaker:it's like, you know, hey, my kid's a good
Speaker:kid. Like, even though your kid
Speaker:did break out Eric, it's just the
Speaker:wrong year.
Speaker:>> Leif: Kid broke Eric out.
Speaker:>> Steve: Like, your kid is guilty, but not the kid
Speaker:either of you think it is. Um, but,
Speaker:yeah, Rufus just being like, hey, their
Speaker:kids on a date, and it's not
Speaker:them, so fuck off, essentially,
Speaker:and. And hangs up on
Speaker:Lily. Um, granted, Rufus
Speaker:is having a day.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah. Again,
Speaker:you know, it's always like, right. You know, she always. Lily
Speaker:always comes in right after he's been dealing with Alison stuff.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, yeah. But. But also,
Speaker:kudos to Dan for talking him out of driving.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah.
Speaker:Um, and then he immediately reconsiders and, you know,
Speaker:tries to call Dan.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah, he. And that's. And that tells you a lot
Speaker:about Rufus, too. Like, fuck off, lady.
Speaker:This isn't, you know, my kid isn't your problem,
Speaker:but also, okay, you do have a problem. I'm gonna see if I can help
Speaker:you.
Speaker:>> Leif: And the sleepover. Plus, Eric has moved to a
Speaker:club. The dares escalate.
Speaker:Does Blair have a new protege?
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. I mean, they. They start.
Speaker:They, uh, the whole
Speaker:steal. She steals his phone, go make out.
Speaker:>> Leif: With that guy, and then she steals.
Speaker:>> Steve: And then she steals his phone and has Jenny
Speaker:call her girlfriend.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Steve: Fantastic. And again, Jenny's
Speaker:just every step of the way like Jen, you
Speaker:know, uh, Jenny
Speaker:real every step of the way is realizing that the game
Speaker:is just a harder game than she. Then she
Speaker:realized, you know, she every step of the
Speaker:way she, you know, just has to make
Speaker:that turn where she basically puts
Speaker:out her shoots and ladders piece and then realizes that
Speaker:she's playing risk and then is like, okay.
Speaker:And, ah, alters her game, you know?
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah. Back on the date, Dan is
Speaker:going doing the classic teach the girl how
Speaker:to shoot pool move. They are about to
Speaker:kiss when Dan's phone vibrates.
Speaker:>> Steve: Um, yeah, the interrupting the kiss
Speaker:right before it happens. Um,
Speaker:although something's vibrating and
Speaker:I hope it's your phone. That's
Speaker:cute. Yeah. Um, also,
Speaker:uh, the jenny scene that I
Speaker:wanted to mention the whole, um, um, this
Speaker:is. But, um, um, no, she doesn't
Speaker:say blair. What does she say? She she
Speaker:does. She calls the girlfriend. Jenny calls the
Speaker:girlfriend and says she's.
Speaker:>> Leif: About to say Blair, but Claire.
Speaker:>> Steve: Claire. Yeah, that's it. My name
Speaker:is Clair.
Speaker:Subtle.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Steve: Smooth.
Speaker:>> Leif: Because he's blatant, dude. Definitely. Blair had a look
Speaker:on her face too as she started saying yeah. Reacted right
Speaker:away.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: Um, and then back of the loft, Lily
Speaker:storms in on Rufus. Lily
Speaker:offers for Rufus to cook for her something
Speaker:to eat while they wait for the kids to call.
Speaker:>> Steve: I love, I love Lily in this
Speaker:scene. First of all, it's kind of
Speaker:hot the way she's like, you can still cook,
Speaker:right? Like, you
Speaker:know. Oh, no, I don't want that, that
Speaker:swill you're drinking. But yeah, sure,
Speaker:you can make me something that non premium.
Speaker:Yeah. M
Speaker:so good.
Speaker:>> Leif: Uh, yes. Back at the club, the
Speaker:dares are starting to cause repercussions.
Speaker:Dan and Serena arrives and things get turned up to eleven
Speaker:as the group gets thrown out of the club.
Speaker:Yeah, that guy's girlfriend showed up
Speaker:pretty quick.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. And Dan
Speaker:is. Dan is
Speaker:always ready to knock someone out if they talk to Jenny the
Speaker:wrong way. Like, Dan is always ready to
Speaker:throw hands for Jenny at, uh, uh, like, any given
Speaker:time.
Speaker:>> Leif: Although I was not a big fan of his comment about the
Speaker:dress.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, yeah. The napkin. Yeah,
Speaker:yeah, he does.
Speaker:>> Leif: The only thing causing a problem is the cocktail napkin you're
Speaker:wearing.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah. Which
Speaker:why the idea that an outfit
Speaker:can be the problem is really, it's.
Speaker:Come on, Dan, it's 2007.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah. Not a good look.
Speaker:And then, uh, back to the loaf
Speaker:lily and Rufus bought over their parenting while
Speaker:cooking. And, you know,
Speaker:we see Willie reveal why Eric
Speaker:was at the Ostra center and, you know, kind
Speaker:of reveals. Like, she blames herself.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. And there's that moment where
Speaker:drinking, drugs. No, he's a good kid.
Speaker:Um, that, like,
Speaker:the insinuation of, like, you're a bad
Speaker:kid if you're drinking or doing drugs, which
Speaker:I also get, like, the getting into trouble
Speaker:thing versus the harming yourself
Speaker:thing. And. But
Speaker:both things are typically.
Speaker:Are typically born from. From trauma
Speaker:and other sort and other things,
Speaker:you know, which I'm sure the Ostrov center
Speaker:does a great job of treating.
Speaker:>> Leif: I mean, it seems like these kids
Speaker:are pretty used to drugs,
Speaker:alcohol pretty early and not even from a trauma
Speaker:perspective just because it's there.
Speaker:>> Steve: Well. Well, yeah. Well, sure.
Speaker:But also, all of these kids have
Speaker:trauma. Like, all of them, like,
Speaker:yeah, they all do. I, uh, mean,
Speaker:uh, Serena, known as the party girl.
Speaker:Like, we have no idea what happened with her dad.
Speaker:We have no idea yet what happened with
Speaker:Chuck's mom. But we know that there's something
Speaker:going on with Chuck's mom, too, that she's not in the
Speaker:picture, which, you know,
Speaker:family separation is traumatic. And all
Speaker:of these families are separated.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah, indeed. And then
Speaker:outside the club, Serena, Blair and Eric have a
Speaker:conversation. Um, yeah, they
Speaker:were, you know.
Speaker:Yeah, Serena's trying to protect Eric, but,
Speaker:uh, Eric says, you know, he's
Speaker:okay. You know, he wants to get out and be with people other
Speaker:than mom.
Speaker:>> Steve: And you, even if it is Blair.
Speaker:I.
Speaker:>> Leif: No offense. No offense.
Speaker:>> Steve: None taken. I loved that.
Speaker:>> Leif: Taken.
Speaker:>> Steve: Because the other thing that we really see
Speaker:here, we talked about this
Speaker:in the previous episode
Speaker:where, um,
Speaker:blair out Serena for the
Speaker:ostrov center. And then Eric tells her, no, it was
Speaker:me. And Blair is like, oh, shit, this isn't the
Speaker:person I wanted to hurt. And now you actually, once
Speaker:again, see that? Like, these two grew
Speaker:up together, too. And this is your. Your
Speaker:best friend's siblings are. Are
Speaker:your siblings in so many ways.
Speaker:>> Leif: You know, uh, Dan
Speaker:is worried about Jenny, but ultimately allows her to go back
Speaker:to the party. And Dan walked Serena and Eric
Speaker:back to their hotel. Much
Speaker:better brother sister moment there.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah. And actually,
Speaker:I really love Jenny in this moment.
Speaker:Once again, I know who they are.
Speaker:>> Leif: Ah.
Speaker:>> Steve: But more importantly, I know who I am.
Speaker:So, yeah, I know what's going on.
Speaker:I'm playing this game, too. Yeah,
Speaker:I thought that was just an absolute
Speaker:killer moment for Jenny to really
Speaker:also kind of tell Dan, like, I am.
Speaker:I'm grown up.
Speaker:>> Leif: I, uh, have agency.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yes. Yeah, I can do this.
Speaker:>> Leif: Jenny has one last dare outside
Speaker:Eleanor's store. It's a. It's a trick. And Jenny
Speaker:is trapped in the store as alarms sound.
Speaker:>> Steve: And it's so funny because, like, you see this
Speaker:happen.
Speaker:>> Leif: Oh, uh, yeah.
Speaker:>> Steve: You see it every step of the way. Oh, yeah. Just go in there
Speaker:and take that coat.
Speaker:>> Leif: Why are you coming in?
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah. It's
Speaker:also obvious that it's, you know, you're going
Speaker:in there and I'm going to lock you in and call the cops,
Speaker:so. Which, which,
Speaker:it's. If you're
Speaker:in Blair's circle already,
Speaker:all of those people that already have
Speaker:the abundance of wealth that if
Speaker:they were caught in
Speaker:a situation, uh, like this could
Speaker:literally buy their way out of
Speaker:any and all trouble associated with it. And now
Speaker:you have Jenny, who may
Speaker:not have that kind of cash
Speaker:available to her. So it
Speaker:is higher stakes for Jenny than
Speaker:a lot of other people in this circle.
Speaker:Blair's circle. Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: And that is the end of act three. We get
Speaker:onto the epilogue.
Speaker:Back at the loft, Rufus and Lily
Speaker:reminisce about their past. Lily answers the
Speaker:phone, and Allison is on the other end.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: Um, um.
Speaker:>> Steve: Womp, womp. And instantly, we
Speaker:get the
Speaker:tone of the relationship
Speaker:between Lily and Alice.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah. And it sounds like,
Speaker:uh, they're close enough that Alison
Speaker:recognized Lily's voice.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:Right away.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Steve: And, uh, they.
Speaker:And you have to figure that there was
Speaker:some crossover in those
Speaker:early rockstar years.
Speaker:You know, they. They clearly know each other
Speaker:well enough to recognize voices.
Speaker:>> Leif: And then, um, back at the store,
Speaker:uh, Jenny smooth talks her way past the cops.
Speaker:She gets away without issue and even
Speaker:gets to keep the jacket.
Speaker:>> Steve: And, man, five years later, she
Speaker:couldn't have gotten away with this. You know, by
Speaker:the. By the end of the show's run, she
Speaker:couldn't have gotten away with this. But, like,
Speaker:no, in 2007, no
Speaker:one's picking up and googling what
Speaker:Blair Waldorf looks like. Uh, you
Speaker:know, her face isn't all over the papers and
Speaker:everything.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Steve: I don't know. This is my mom's store. Why would I have the keys?
Speaker:Yeah, I don't have id. I'm 17.
Speaker:I'm 16 years old. I don't have an id
Speaker:yet.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah, definitely would. Not passing. That's today's
Speaker:time.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: And so we move on. Serena and Dan are
Speaker:talking about their younger siblings. Something
Speaker:like that plays as we see Dan and Serena kiss for
Speaker:the first time on the streets of
Speaker:NYC.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yep. Great kiss. Great
Speaker:moment. Like, great. You know, we've been waiting
Speaker:for this. It's been building up for five
Speaker:episodes now. And.
Speaker:Yeah, it's great.
Speaker:>> Leif: Mhm.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Great resolution to their story
Speaker:arc that this episode.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah. And then Jenny
Speaker:shows up at the sleepover and wins the
Speaker:nights.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: When.
Speaker:>> Steve: When she leaves the sleepover,
Speaker:she goes back, she leaves the
Speaker:sleepover and she turns to Blair and she's like, first
Speaker:of all, she's like, I'm keeping the jacket.
Speaker:I'll see you on the stairs. Lunch. On
Speaker:the lunch of the Met steps. I'll see you
Speaker:there. Yeah. So, like, uh, because Blair,
Speaker:game recognizes game and Blair's
Speaker:like, you know, no one leaves. Like, oh, you're bailing.
Speaker:No, I'm walking out.
Speaker:I'll see you again later.
Speaker:>> Leif: And I'm keeping a jacket.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, and I'm keeping your jacket.
Speaker:>> Leif: That, Jack could probably cost a couple thousand dollars.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jenny
Speaker:fucking owned that. Yeah.
Speaker:Um, everything in about Jenny in this
Speaker:episode just plays the game
Speaker:like a fucking, uh,
Speaker:genius.
Speaker:>> Leif: She is definitely a project.
Speaker:>> Steve: The Bobby Fischer
Speaker:of the upper east side
Speaker:royalty.
Speaker:>> Leif: Scheming.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: Um, and so that is the end of the episode.
Speaker:So we'll go ahead and get into some segments.
Speaker:Um, so the song that plays, um, in the
Speaker:montage, uh, where Dan and
Speaker:Sridha kiss, and we get the whole
Speaker:montage on most sites, it's
Speaker:just labeled as something like that by
Speaker:Tim.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. And I remember
Speaker:watching this moment and being like, holy shit. Is this
Speaker:my first glimpse at Lincoln Hawk?
Speaker:Because he's holding the album.
Speaker:>> Leif: And I believe they, uh, intended it to be
Speaker:that it felt that way.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, it felt.
Speaker:>> Leif: Um, this song is
Speaker:not on Spotify or Apple.
Speaker:Um, it's only on YouTube. And it's under the
Speaker:title song and wager
Speaker:as, uh, the artist's name.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. S w. Right. Or is it
Speaker:so n g s.
Speaker:>> Leif: O n g s o n g o. Ah.
Speaker:And then he. Which
Speaker:they. He has one album on Spotify,
Speaker:but not this song.
Speaker:Um, apparently the guy's name is Tim
Speaker:Bader. He's from Philadelphia.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: He's eagles fan.
Speaker:>> Steve: Nice, nice. Go birds. Next
Speaker:year, I guess.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah. Um.
Speaker:>> Steve: And.
Speaker:>> Leif: But, yeah, so that. That's that song. Um, and
Speaker:then a m little more trivia from the episode
Speaker:when Blair comments, Jenny's outfit is too Hannah
Speaker:Montana. It may be a reference to the fact that Taylor
Speaker:Mumpson was almost chosen to play the character of Hannah
Speaker:Montana until Miley Cyrus got the role.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah. I really like that
Speaker:bit of trivia, that whole scene, too. To this.
Speaker:To this. To this. It was cute.
Speaker:>> Leif: And then this is the only episode where Eleanor
Speaker:Storm is seen or even mentioned.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, and it seemed like a tiny
Speaker:little hole in the wall store, too, you
Speaker:know? Like, you only see that
Speaker:little boutique.
Speaker:>> Leif: Almost, which makes
Speaker:sense.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: I mean, she hasn't even gone public yet. Yeah, she's in small
Speaker:fashion line.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah, we'll see where she ends up later.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Well, I mean, she has all that stuff. That's gonna work out great
Speaker:with the captain, I'm sure.
Speaker:>> Leif: Oh, yeah.
Speaker:Um, so let's go into episode grades. I, uh,
Speaker:went first last time, so you can go first this time.
Speaker:>> Steve: Um, I really loved this episode.
Speaker:I felt like everything was kind of
Speaker:turned on its head. Like, everything that
Speaker:was, uh,
Speaker:they took a lot of cliches and kind of worked it out better.
Speaker:Like, this is how things could work out better.
Speaker:Um, overall, I thought the episode was an a.
Speaker:Um, Jenny really shot
Speaker:this episode up for me. Like, just every scene with
Speaker:her made it just great for me.
Speaker:Um, I knocked it down even
Speaker:a little bit because of the complete whack
Speaker:of Nate and chuck in this
Speaker:episode. Like, they. They were definitely
Speaker:missed. Uh, you know, I'm a
Speaker:big Nate.
Speaker:>> Leif: Stan, so,
Speaker:um, I'm gonna go a little bit lower than
Speaker:that. Um, I. Yeah, I was
Speaker:not as thrilled with the trophiness as you were. I
Speaker:thought they had trophiness and then replaced it
Speaker:with even more tropes.
Speaker:Um, so from the first half the episode, the only
Speaker:part I really liked was Dan and Serena finally
Speaker:communicating, but I did, like,
Speaker:all the Blair, the sleepover stuff with Jet. Blair
Speaker:and Jenny.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: Um, they worked great together as actors.
Speaker:Uh, so I'm going to give the episode, and like I said, no,
Speaker:no. Chuck and Nate. So that was kind of. That
Speaker:was missing. So I'm going to give it a b
Speaker:minus.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: All right, on to Stockwatch. Uh, who do you have
Speaker:going up?
Speaker:>> Steve: Um, well,
Speaker:Jenny skyrockets in this episode. Her
Speaker:stock goes up and up. Um,
Speaker:Dan and Serena, their stock goes up. They finally
Speaker:did the thing. They finally had their good date. They finally
Speaker:get their kiss. Stock goes up. Um,
Speaker:Lillian, rufus. I had their stock going
Speaker:up. They both kind of, uh,
Speaker:they both had
Speaker:parenting wins a little bit. You know, Lily
Speaker:kind of, you know, opening up
Speaker:and being a little bit more of a person for the first
Speaker:time, uh, that
Speaker:their stock. And then Eric also getting
Speaker:out. M Eric stock went up, too.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah, I also. Yeah, Jenny,
Speaker:obviously, she clearly won the episode.
Speaker:Dan, uh, Serena, even though I didn't necessarily enjoy all their
Speaker:scenes, they seem to have fun, so I'll give
Speaker:them stock up.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: Um, Lily and Rufus, for their communication
Speaker:and opening up together and reconnecting
Speaker:finally. Um, even though Rufus,
Speaker:you know, got the bad news about his
Speaker:wife maybe starting to move on
Speaker:finally. And then, yes,
Speaker:Eric as well, because he got to have fun and hang out
Speaker:with some people that weren't his, uh, family.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah. Um, then
Speaker:going down for me, the ostrof center,
Speaker:their faculty, their staff, their security.
Speaker:The ostrof center's stock went down for
Speaker:me.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah. Uh, not great on the security front. Uh,
Speaker:for me, Allison, uh, gets an off screen,
Speaker:uh, stock down for just being a cheating
Speaker:wife.
Speaker:>> Steve: And to me, like, to me, I would
Speaker:concur outside of. She isn't
Speaker:really a character to me yet, you know,
Speaker:because she's just all off screen.
Speaker:>> Leif: So I think going forward, we can
Speaker:use anyone who's at least
Speaker:mentioned anyone.
Speaker:>> Steve: Mentioned in the episode, they have to.
Speaker:>> Leif: At least be mentioned.
Speaker:>> Steve: Okay. Okay, good. Good.
Speaker:That's good to go on. That's good to go on.
Speaker:>> Leif: And then who do you have, uh, for best outfit?
Speaker:>> Steve: Dan's brown suit. Dan's suit. When.
Speaker:When he shows up. And then Brown's not
Speaker:my thing, and it's not typically Mike Huller, but, man,
Speaker:he just pits him, um, owns that.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. He just.
Speaker:>> Leif: It was very well tailored to.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: Not trial, you forget.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: That well tailored.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. I mean, yeah. I think we're
Speaker:also supposed to believe that it wasn't
Speaker:tailored and. But it was super well tailored.
Speaker:>> Leif: Yeah. And,
Speaker:ah, for me, it was a, uh, Jenny's yellow, uh,
Speaker:jasmine de milo dress with the black and gold
Speaker:swirl print coat from Millie.
Speaker:I thought she owned it and she just killed it
Speaker:all upset.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was it.
Speaker:Yet I actually didn't love
Speaker:it. Didn't love the dress because of the
Speaker:bow on it. Wasn't there a big bow
Speaker:on the front of it?
Speaker:>> Leif: Sort of like something wasn't a bow, just like I, like, kind
Speaker:of a drape.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah, I thought that part of it was. I just thought.
Speaker:>> Leif: I think it worked for a character.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah, it does. Um,
Speaker:yeah. But also a shout out to her
Speaker:earlier outfit that. Where she. When she showed up,
Speaker:um, and she had that, like, pink sweater,
Speaker:the. The crocheted, like,
Speaker:or knit sweater. That
Speaker:made me really realize the sweater game in general on
Speaker:this show is just on point.
Speaker:>> Leif: Uh, if you live in New York City, you gotta have good sweaters.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: And good coats in general.
Speaker:>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:>> Leif: Okay. Ah, you got anything to
Speaker:plug?
Speaker:>> Steve: Um, I should be
Speaker:at trying to think when this comes out,
Speaker:but if it's not too late. February 8, I'll be at
Speaker:McGillan's for their open mic.
Speaker:Um, ah, that's in senator City.
Speaker:>> Leif: We should come out tomorrow.
Speaker:>> Steve: Okay. Oh, yeah. It is time for this to come out, isn't
Speaker:it? Wow. Um,
Speaker:yes. So February 8, come out to McGillens in Center
Speaker:City and come see me play. I'll be the featured
Speaker:act for the open mic. And if you play music, come play music for the
Speaker:open mic. Um, and then you can
Speaker:also follow me at Steve Dot
Speaker:Marshan on Instagram marchion,
Speaker:and
Speaker:you can find me at stevetheweed wizard on
Speaker:TikTok. Um, and then you can also find me on
Speaker:Spotify, iTunes, Amazon music,
Speaker:uh, I heart, and anywhere else that you stream
Speaker:music, you can find my stuff.
Speaker:>> Leif: Uh, and, um, yeah,
Speaker:um, uh, I haven't really watched anything
Speaker:new recently, so, uh, I'll just, uh, plug my
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Speaker:>> Leif: Alright, uh, so that's all for this week.
Speaker:Next episode is season one, episode six,
Speaker:the Handmaiden's Tale. The HBO Max
Speaker:description is, and Dan is torn between
Speaker:two girls when his childhood friend Vanessa returns
Speaker:home.
Speaker:>> Steve: Oh, boy.
Speaker:>> Leif: So we get to meet Vanessa,
Speaker:a new character. Well, until next time,
Speaker:you know you love us. Xoxo.
Speaker:>> Steve: Take care.
