Episode 3

Gossip Girl S1E03 - Poison Ivy

Leif and Steve do a spoiler free after watch of the OG Gossip Girl.

This week the guys break down Season 1, episode 3 titled Poison Ivy

Blair uncovers scandalous information about Serena; Dan sets his sights on impressing the Dartmouth representative.  IMDB

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would label you as a project, you know. The girls who have the potential to be a Blair. Alright, well

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then dress me up in an Eleanor Waldorf original and let's get started. Sounds good. Uh, so folks,

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here's the deal. Leif has been living and breathing gossip girl since the beginning. I'm

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just watching for the first time right now. And together we're your dynamic duo dissecting the

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there is always a seat for you at the non-judging breakfast table, so go ahead and grab your coffee

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or a mimosa if it's that kind of morning and let's dive into it. Alright, today we are going to be

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talking about season one, episode three, Hoisin Ivy. Steve, do you know what that title is

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referencing? I do Leif because, uh, partially because we've had a little conversation about it,

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but it is the Drew Barrymore movie from I think the 90s that is, it was one of the few things my dad

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wouldn't let me watch. It also has Sarah Gilbert from Roseanne. Oh, no kidding. Yeah, that's,

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she's the actual daughter, she's the daughter. Yeah, that's right. Barrymore is the best friend,

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he's the juicest of dad. Yeah, and like, and I was in love with Drew Barrymore since I was four years old

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watching ET. And like I said, my dad, it was like, no, no, no, do not watch this movie. No, it's

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totally inappropriate. Watch Revenge of the Nerds. Go watch Police Academy, that's much more.

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I mean, it is pretty inappropriate, but I mean, Right. Yeah, but yeah, those are as well. Yeah,

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yeah, those were all, those were giving messages that I were super inappropriate for the, however,

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like 10 year old I was when those came out. Yes. So this episode was written by Felicia Henderson.

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She is a solid 20 plus year TV writer and did stuff like Moisha, Sister to Sister. Everybody hates

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Chris, Empire, the Netflix Punisher show and probably the biggest thing she did was Fridge.

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What was the TVD again? Which one? Oh, that's the director. Sorry, I thought I got jumped ahead.

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Yes, yes, it was directed by J. Miller Tobin. Also as a 20 year TV veteran director. He's done stuff

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like Oz, Hack, The Mountain, which I only mentioned because Penn Badgley was on it. It was a

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short lived show on the WB before Gossip Girl. Also did some Terminator, Seracronic Chronicles,

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Supernatural, Pretty Little Wires, The Vampire Diaries. Vampire Diaries. And that's the one that

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I didn't recognize. Yes. And we're going to go Oz too. That's a bit of a leap. Yeah, I mean, a couple of

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HBO shows. The Hack is also, I believe, an HBO show. Oh, yeah, yeah. Was that, was that? I vaguely

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remember Hack. And so anyways, we're going to go ahead and jump right in. No cold open again this

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week. So we go right into Act One. Jenny and the choir sing acapella as the upper classmen,

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whether prepared for Ivy Week at the Constance, Constance Billard and St. Jude. As the students

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arrive at school, Chuck gives Dan an angry stare as they cross paths in the courtyard. Nate and Chuck

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are chatting. Nate and Chuck are chatting. And Blair, a lot of guys and Smile across the crowd at

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each other. Um, yeah, I mean, they're they're building that, that tension back up, you know,

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kind of boiled over from the previous week. Also, the song that they're singing is, and now I forgot

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it again. Glamorous by Furgy. Yeah, glamorous by Furgy. So like that, I really, it was really cool

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to, you know, have the choir do what was at the time, you know, a big hit song. And to hear that

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arrangement was really fun. So the choir finishes its song as the students are all gathered in an

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assembly hall to announce the assignments for Ivy Week. And also Jenny and the choir, how

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interesting. I never, who would have thought that she would want to be a singer? Yeah, I think that

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they did that to Plakator probably. Yeah, yeah, I was I was I had that thought on on rewatch of, yeah.

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So the choir finishes its song as the students are all gathered in an assembly hall to announce the

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assignments for Ivy Week. Chuck and Nate all are sneak off for a puff. Blair and the minions are

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wondering where Serene is. And then we flash back to their individual mornings. Um, yeah. And, uh,

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yeah, we're not we're not seeing a whole lot yet still. We're just, you know, setting up these

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scenes. Once again, establishing that that Chuck and Nate like to imbibe with the devil's lettuce.

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Yes, they like a quick puff and we're a long puff sometimes. Anyway, so we flash back and we see in

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the Brooklyn loft, Rufus and Jenny are giving Dan a pep talk about getting into his chosen favorite

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school, Dartmouth. And like, this is one of the rare moments where you actually see a little bit of

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tension between Jenny and Dan that, you know, sibling stuff, they're not fighting, they're not

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arguing. They're just teasing. Yeah, they're teasing, but he's like, actually he's irritated

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by his little sister. That's just because he's irritated in general that morning. Yeah. He's

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already, he's already having a bad morning. Yeah. See him cutting his face, shaving, you got, yeah.

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Everything, everything is going wrong. Yeah. Everything's coming up millhouse for Dan today.

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Yeah. And, and, but, but it was also, it's, I guess the bigger point I was, I was making was how, how

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great that sibling relationship is played, how, how it's portrayed by the two of them. They really

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are seamless. They, they know each other's buttons and how to push them. And it's just, it just

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really makes you feel, it makes me miss my little sister, you know? And yeah, and I definitely think

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that it comes down to the actors. They had great chemistry. I recently listened to Taylor Monson

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came on Pat Badgley's podcast, actually. Oh, no. They still have great chemistry together.

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That's, that's really, he sees very like protective over real life even. It's like, you

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know, she's out like in her twenties and. Yeah. And a punk fan doing her thing. Should my mic be

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pointing directly at me instead of straight up in the air? Am I doing that? It sounded. Yeah. It's a

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dynamic, but it's not as the directional as the condenser mics. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And so then we

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see Nate and his father running in the park and the captain once again lays down the law. Nate's

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priority should be focused on Dartmouth, law school and Blair. And is this where, is this where

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he beats him? That's later. Is that later? Okay. Well, so yeah, yeah, that's at the end of the

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episode. Yeah. Yeah, it's later. But yes, so we get the good, we get the contrast between Dan and Nate.

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While Rufus has expectations for Dan, his expectations is just that Dan works hard to get

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what he wants to get. Yeah. As opposed to the captain who wants Nate to work hard to get what the

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captain wants. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And Nate who doesn't have to work hard to get what the captain

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wants. Yeah. Nate can actively work against his best interest. We see. As we, well, and I'm all,

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yeah, as we see. But his dad is still riding and to put in the effort anyway. Right. Well, and the

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biggest thing with that is to me is the, not just putting in the effort to succeed, but the Blair

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stuff. Like you have to maintain this relationship because I'm working on a business

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deal with her mom. So does he work for Burgdorf's? Yes. I don't know if they really explain this yet,

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but basically the deal is the captain is an investment banker and Eleanor Waldorf has a

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design line that is about to go public. And he wants to be the company, he wants to be the one that takes

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her, you know, does the IPO. Yeah. He does. He does in this episode, say to Nate about that, that he

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will, that he has business going on with Blair's mom. Right. That is, that is definitely

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established. And then, and so we have the parent who is putting money over their kid, like

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prostituting their kid. Yeah. Like, like they're, they're, they're their income and their

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business deals are more important and their kid following their exact path to do this to their own

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kid. Like here's Nate who's being shoved down this, this avenue to like marry this girl who, hey,

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16 year old son, marry this girl so I can get this business transaction, traditional concepts of

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marriage. You know, like, and, and, and this whole thing is going to, yeah, it's a, it's, it's a

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business transaction and I need you as part of my business transaction. Yes. Well, you know, the

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Vanderbilt's are old money that goes back to royalty and they, the old traditions die hard.

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They are, you know, still trying to use marriage as the original concept, which is, yeah, for a

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variety of alliances and yeah, yeah, political and monetary gain. Yeah. Those old families that

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old traditions die hard. Yeah. And, and, you know, I think that Nate is just self aware enough to see

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that this is, that he's not only expected to do all of these things, but then he's supposed to have

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kids to do the same things, you know, like, which he doesn't want that either. You know, he wants, he

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wants a different life than what's being laid out for him. But that, but that bit between the, the,

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you know, prostituting your child out, it was, was something that I really like, really snagged with

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me. Yeah. The upper East side parents are pretty horrible. Yeah. Yeah. And I feel like we're going

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to talk about that more at some point. Yeah, probably. I don't know what, anyways, we see Blair

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is at the penthouse talking to, to Dorota about following her father to her dream school of Yale.

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And as, so we, we initially just see the body moving around. We don't see the face. So we kind of assume

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she's talking to her mother, but it, oh, but it actually turns out to be Dorota the maid. Yeah. And

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it's the first time that we meet Dorota too. Yeah. Which I, which, you know, I remember having that

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thought of like, oh, this is, you know, her, oh, her mom's back because I believe the previous episode

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she said that she was out in France. Yeah. All right. Oh, and yeah. And, and yeah, then Dorota

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turns around and it's, oh, she's talking to, you know, the maid, the, the maid or nanny or, and my, my

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first thought was actually nanny, which it was like, you know, you seem a little old for a nanny,

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but okay. But then she has the maid, you know, maid, maid makes a lot more sense though. She has the maid

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uniform on? Yep. Okay. She sure does. That's why, that's why it makes more sense. And then Lily and

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Serena are in the hotel room and Serena is clearly running behind her dream school is brown. Yeah.

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Yeah. Um, which also was her mom's school, she said. I believe so. Yes. Yeah. There, there,

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there, because she said something about, she joked about something else, but like, yeah, she

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wanted to go. She, she, she is not afraid to follow in her mom's footsteps. Correct. At this point.

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And Brown is still at Ivy League school, but it's kind of known as the more relaxed of the Ivy's.

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Yeah. Um, and so we got the contrast between the answer. We also get the contrast between Serena

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and Blair. Uh, one obviously is that, you know, Blair is super organized and prim and proper.

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Well, Serena is just like a whirlwind. Yeah. I went through the house to look at for stuff. Yep. And

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then on the other side, you get the, the eating. Um, Blair eats like one little grape and Serena is like

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stuffing her face with her size. Yeah. Yeah. Lots of carbs. Yeah. You, you, you were, you're, you're

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seeing now the very first episode, her mom made the comment about, you'll never be as young, pretty or

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thin as you are now. And now you're seeing that that, that there are food issues. Like she is, she

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does have a bad relationship with food. And then, uh, so after that, we see Serena bumps into Dan as

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everyone is leaving the assembly. They have an awkward miscommunication where Dan believes

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Serena is asking about the relationship being over, but she was really asking about the assembly

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as Dan leaves, Blair walks up and sluts him Serena. Yeah. Like rude. Um, but like you're, you're

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already winning Blair. You're like just walk on by and leave a be, but that's, that doesn't seem like

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Blair's nap style, but also not a good look for Dan. He's a little, little cocky there. A little too

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cocky. Yeah. Well, yeah. They will Dan and it's funny because you see Dan's awkward side always

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pop out and his awkward and like shy. But then he also has that cocky side to do them where it's like,

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and it's so funny because like they're so reversed in how they should be and how he should be using

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them. You know, like, you know, he's, he's awkward and shy when he shouldn't, when he doesn't need to

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be, and then he's cocky and arrogant when he should be a little more humble. Like, it's like, find a

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balance, dude. Yes. Um, I think that could possibly be Penn Badgley coming out some in the

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character. Yeah. And yeah. So I pretty early in the gospel girl's reign, it came out like they found

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posts that he, like he had made like when he was like 13 on like metal message boards. Oh, and he's like

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super cocky. That's all good shit. So like, for the first time in a while, I've been like, I've been

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like, I've been like, 40 year old guys and stuff. Oh, that's fantastic. Um, so there we, so we see on

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the, out on the field hockey field, tensions between Serena and Blair continue to rise and even

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get physical. The peers get Blair gets the upper hand by over emphasizing an injury. The scene is

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scored by the song. I got it from my mama by will I am. Yeah. Then when she, when she takes that hit and

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she's like looking her dead in the eyes and it is, it's, you know, oh man, it's like, again, like it

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makes me miss my little sister. Like it is just that like, oh, oh man, I'm gonna, like, because there's

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nothing like a 10 seconds away. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's, yeah, she sits there. She's making eye

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contact with you. You know she's fine, but there's nothing you can't be like, you know, oh, she's

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making it. Like you monster, you just hit her. God, I've been there. Yeah. And that is going to be our

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first break. And we are back for act two. Dan is interviewing to be the Dartmouth usher. Yeah. And

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he is interviewing his heart out this good. And but he also, but he also then screws it up because then

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he makes an awkward, like, cocky joke that doesn't land. But does he screw it up or was that whole thing

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planned? I thought that whole, like the whole, like intentional, like mess up was, was planned.

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You think so? I mean, planted as a bad joke as like, to like, the whole, because the whole thing seems

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to reverse. Well, yeah, it seemed like it, but I think that he felt like it would land. I don't think

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that, and I felt like it was rehearsed, but nobody audited it. Nobody, nobody checked up. Oh, it

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definitely didn't land. Yeah. But I think it was definitely, it wasn't like he screwed up. I think

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he planned. Well, I'm. Yeah. Why? Yeah. I think he did. I think he followed his plan. But yeah, that's

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exactly what I mean. And so then we see, we cut to Nate interviewing for the same position and

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trying to give it up. Yeah, tries to screw it up. Tries, tries his best to. I'm not, this isn't my

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first choice. Someone else should have this. Yeah. Yeah, I really don't want this. Please don't

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give it to me. There and like, please give it to someone who wants it more is really what he says, I

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believe. And we see Chuck interviewing for the Yale position, doing Chuck Bass things. Yeah,

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that he should be because, because he's Chuck Bass. Yeah, that, that was a soundboard moment I

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was setting you up for. So we cut to Dan and Nate reading the announcements. And Nate gets the

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position that Dan wanted as Darba Lesher. Dan is very frustrated in the normal chip on his

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shoulder, blue on his collar manner, but still managed to give Nate a tip about the IV rep he will be

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ushering. I, I love, I love the way that Dan and Nate's relationship is developing that, that

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from the onset, like they're both into Serena and Nate knows that he cannot talk to Serena and he

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knows that they're both into the same person, but Nate is just like, like, you get the impression

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that Nate's a good dude because like he, he doesn't, he has reason not to like Dan and Dan has

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reason not to like Nate. And, and, you know, here you have them clash and because Nate just got the

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thing that he didn't want. There was a thing that was all Dan wanted. And, and Nate got it because of

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everything that Dan says to him. You get anything you want. Like you, you, of course, you're going to

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get this. You, you can have anything you want. You know, no matter how hard I work, I'll never get

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that. So like he's, he doesn't say anything that isn't true. He's just Dan's an asshole about it.

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And Nate just doesn't fire back, doesn't take the offensive. And, you know, just keeps playing

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defense a little bit. And Dan, and it's enough for Dan to realize this guy isn't, isn't my enemy. His

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money is my enemy. His, you know, the, the, the reps are my enemy. And maybe my bad joke is my enemy. And

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so he pauses and then gives him advice. Yeah. You know, and like you, and I love that the two of these

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guys that, especially in a high school world have reason to not like each other. Don't find a way to

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work through it. Yeah. They're, they're both on the ground. Yeah. They're both very grown about

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their, about their own relationship. And they're very, they're, they're, they're very self-aware

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in, in where the other person is coming from. Yes. We see Dan initially react with emotion, but he

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quickly rains it in at least somewhat, you know, because he, yeah, he notices it. And, you know,

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Nate is trying to do anything to him. Yeah. Yeah. So we do see Dan storming through the courtyard and is

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stopped by a very bubbly Serena. Serena tries to have a cute moment with Dan, but Dan is having none

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of it because he is just too frustrated by their different worlds right now. However, as Dan walks

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away, we see him frustrated at himself that he can't get out of his own way with his dream girl. In

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my mind, these are, they're clearly still feelings for both sides here. Yeah. Yeah. These

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two are still interested in each other. They, and as a, Despite the end of last week. Yeah. Despite,

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yeah. Despite the, it's still, it's still his dream girl. Yeah. You know, and he's still, you

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know, he still can't get her out of her, out of, out of his head. And so they, they're, they're still

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kind of, you know, missing each other in the dark, but they also, like you, like you had said, they

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can't get out of their own way, neither of. And I love this from a character because we see, once

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again, we see Dan react with emotion, but then he realizes what he did was wrong. Yeah. Yeah. Dan

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catches himself and, and, and Dan, Dan doesn't want to be, a bad guy. And, and, and yeah, it really

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is great character development for Dan, especially in these back to back scenes of him kind

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of popping off, realizing he, realizing he's mad at the wrong person and kind of reflecting on that.

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Next up, we get both sides of a phone conversation between Blair and Chuck. Blair is in the penthouse

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having her leg iced by minions as Chuck rise in his limo. They make plans to find out Serena's secret.

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Like, all right, is and, and Katie right now, like you saw that she's faking it. Why are you still

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playing along with it? So this is something I noticed on rewatch. In the initial scene, she

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grabs her left leg, but then they're icing the right side. Yeah. I might think the other way

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around, but it's definitely different legs in each scene. Oh, that is even, that is so good. That

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is so good. And like, why are you like, you know that you're in on it? Like, you know that she's faking

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it. But then she's, but you know, Blair's the type that wants to be able to be like, Oh, they had to ice

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my leg for hours. You're in on it. There we see Dan arise back at the loft and walks past Jenny and

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Rufus and Rufus slams his door. Dan and Rufus are fresh Dan and Rufus are frustrated that Nate won

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the usher spot over Dan. And as soon as the scene ends, Jenny reveals she is already used to losing

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out on the Upper East Siders. Yeah, that one for one, like it's crazy to hear that from Jenny

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because so far from in the first two episodes, her stocks going up, right? Like from the beginning,

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the first episode where she's playing both sides and and making nice. And in the second episode

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where she has the whole like, you know, I don't have a problem with Serena, but if someone did, I don't

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have a problem with that either. So like, you see her stock going up. You see her. Oh, we only see her

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winning among the Upper East Siders. So for her to feel defeated, it's like, you just kind of see that

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difference in their lives, you know? Yeah. And especially for a young girl like Jenny who is into

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fashion and the only dresses she has are the ones she makes at the scene. Yeah. Yeah. And the one and

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one Eleanor Waldorf original. Um, I also did write down Dan's little joke that he made. Uh, he says,

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last year, I believe, speaking about Nate, last year, I believe he had an original thought. It died

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of loneliness. Yeah. I love that line. And, and like, and, and he's, again, you see that he's

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bitter toward Nate, but it's also for, you know, for, for kind of a justified reason. You know, he is

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insulting Nate. And but, but Nate is, you know, he, he isn't the scholarly type, you know? He is a guy

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that gets by and that's been established that, you know, he's following the path that he's just been

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put on. So Chuck stalks Serena in his limo and sees her enter the Astros Center. Chuck calls out and

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forms, calls and informs Blair. Nate is seeing, trying to follow Dan's advice in reading the

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petting zoo. I'm kind of surprised they didn't have him holding the book upside down. He looks so

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confused. Yeah. So just this anguished look on his face, trying to get through the book. He is

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definitely the show's official himbo at this point. Yeah. Yeah. Couple of things. We do notice

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that even though Nate's, so Nate's there sitting with Blair, but Blair says on like, they, you know,

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try to pretend like she's talking to her mother, not to Chuck. So she's, she's hiding that fact that

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from Nate. Yeah. And then also a little bit of gossip girl trivia. Now's a decent time to mention

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it. The Astros Center. It's a recurring location in the show's run all six seasons. It appears

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pretty much. And it is named after Dawn Ostrov, who was the president of the UPN and later the CW and was

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definitely a big involved in, you know, setting up gossip girl, which is one of the flagship shows of

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the first year in the CW. Yeah. Oh yeah. That's right. Um, and then so later on in the show, I could

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believe in the sixth season. We're CW. Just, just, just wanted to say just poor CW that it's like, we

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did it. We've got our network together in 2007, right before all networks. Yes. Uh, but, uh, yes.

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And then in season six, uh, it's mentioned that the Astros Center is renamed the Petowitz Institute

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because the, at that point, Mark Petowitz had taken over as network president. Yeah. Yeah. It

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was neat tributes. So that is the end of the second act. Uh, we go and go right into the act three, uh,

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back at the Waldorf penthouse, uh, Blair and Chuck speculate why Serena is at the Astros Center. Um,

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so yeah, they, I mean, they assume it's probably she's there for drugs or anything like that. It's,

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yeah. And, and considering that she disappeared and when she disappeared, it, it's really funny.

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They've basically showed that she disappeared without a trace when, when she went away prior to

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season one, you know? Um, well, I think it was no issues at boarding school, but yeah, yeah. Yeah.

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She just didn't communicate with anyone. Right. Right. I felt like the impression I got was without

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telling anybody she up one night left went to boarding school. But, um, yeah, it was right after

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the shepherd wedding, but there are many times where people reference her not drinking anymore.

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And even though we see her drinking, but like there are a few like, Oh, I thought you weren't doing that

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anymore. And like, yeah, yes. Uh, it's definitely implied that pre the show, she was definitely a

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party girl. Yeah. The G, the, yeah, that she used to drink a lot. Um, and that, and, and so it's one of

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those things where it, it's never been said aloud by her, but by other people, they have said, they

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have talked about her drinking before the show, you know, and so that they, it does lead to the

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logical conclusion of going there for, for treatment. So at the Ostrov center, the

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Vanderwitzers are having a family therapy session. The same issue keeps coming up with Lily

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wants you to hide Eric's problems. And Serena and Eric want to be honest. The therapist agrees that

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an event out is a good compromise for Eric. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, you know, since you were feeling like

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all of this depression and anxiety, maybe the first time you leave this super safe and secure

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setting, it should be at a giant party full of super intense people who are really on the brink of

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losing. Well, not just that. You can't handle going to your own home, but you can, you can go to a

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party. Yeah. Yeah. You can, it's, it's certainly, you shouldn't go home, but yeah, go to a party.

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That's fine. Yeah. Yeah. And, and, and I just, I keep thinking about the party that, that he's

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going to is like all of these people who are, you know, trying to impress these, these

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representatives from the different colleges and how, you know, how, intense of an atmosphere that

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is, you know, it isn't a casual brunch at Chuck's hotel. It's, it's, it's like people trying to like

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make the path that's going to be the rest of their life. Like that's stressful. That's like, not the

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party you take someone to the first time out either. At the school, we see Rufus just being a

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really good dad trying to find an out of the box solution to get his son to the IB rep party. And the,

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and conveniently the person who can make this happen is our very own Lily Vanderwitzen. That

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scene is fantastic. When, when it's, um, where, oh, I've, she's in a good mood. She's in a good mood.

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Well, she hasn't seen me yet. He was right. Cause as soon as she walks up to the C seven, she's like, Oh

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yeah. And, and he's doing here. It also, I love that this establishes that everyone's afraid of Lily,

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but Rufus, like Rufus doesn't give a shit, but like everyone else in, in Lily's orbit, she is, Lily is

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powerful and, and Lily knows how to get what she wants. And that's been established all along. And

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now you see that like the other people in her orbit are just as, yeah, they're, they're, they're just

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as afraid of her. She runs, she runs the show. Yeah. Scenes. Yeah. She is the Blair of the adults. Yeah.

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Very much. Back at the loft, Rufus reveals that he got Dan into the party on the program as part and,

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and on the program as part of the newly formed refreshments committee. Yeah. And, and how did

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you get that committee? How did you get the newly formed refreshments committee formed dad? Well,

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I'm part of the newly formed entertainment committee. Oh boy. What was it? Who did you hire to

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do the entertainment then head of the entertainment committee? All the only person I

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get such shortness was myself. Oh, Jesus Christ. This day can't get any worse. Like, and it's so

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funny how, you know, any kid hearing this conversation. Oh, so you got me into the party.

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Awesome. Oh, so I can work. Oh, and you can get a gig. Great. Great. Although when I hear this, I'm

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getting excited because now we're three episodes in and I still have yet to see Lincoln Hawk. So here

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when I find that he's going to be performing, I'm excited for Lincoln Hawk. Well, so since you

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mentioned that the answer reaction isn't even the normal kid reaction of embarrassment of a kid. He

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just feels that, you know, was he called post punk math rock or something? Is it a paraphrase for this

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event? Oh my God, I love it. But yeah, post punk math rock. And yeah, and it's like, but still, like I'm

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so excited to see. And he does. He does respond that he's going to tone it down somehow, doesn't he? Or.

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Yes. Rufus unplugged. Yeah, Rufus unplugged. I love it. I am dying for some Lincoln Hawk and I know I

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could spoil this for myself and I have not. I am so excited to finally eventually get to hear it.

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We'll get there. So the Vanderwoodsons arrive at the party and Lily is clearly nervous. Eric seems,

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but Eric seems to get spirits. Yeah, yeah, they're Eric's glad to be out. He's excited to be at this

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party. So, you know, good for him. But yeah, Blair's a little Blair is a or I'm sorry, Serena's a

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little intense. At the party we are greeted by the aforementioned Rufus Unplugged, and Dan is

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serving drinks and can't help but stare at Serena as she enters with Lillian Eric. Serena

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interrupts Blair's conversation with the Yellow Rift that rode crew with Blair's father. It is

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revealed that Chuck and Blair have invited Dr. Astroff to the party. Um, so for one I want to point

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out that once again we see Blair, who is eager to go to Yale, has, wants to go to Yale, has made that very

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clear, her dad went to Yale, and she's a legacy at Yale. Again we have the kid making their own

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decisions that are following in their parents' footsteps. So like, you know, it's not that it's

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wrong for the kids to follow in their footsteps, but it's when the parents, like, you missed a

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footsteps. And you know, I find that really interesting that both Blair and Serena want to go

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to the schools that their parents went to. You know, they want those paths. And they, and they

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still very much you can tell look up to their moms, even though they have, especially you see Lillian

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and Serena's struggles with Lillian wanting Serena to be back into the public eye. Well, I

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really like their conversation as their attorney, like, because Serena says, I'm going to

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be, do you have you seen the Yale ref? And Lillian's like, see, you want to go to Brown and Blair wanted

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to go to Yale. And Serena's like, yeah. And Lillian just makes this like, she's like this, now like,

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she like goes, yeah. And she's just like, no, it's like, oh, okay. Yep. I know what's going on here.

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Yeah. Yeah. And it's funny because like you see Lillian have the, have that recognition which

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shows that it's nothing new. That like the Serena wants what Blair has and Serena's going to get what

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Blair, you know, what Blair has. It's not new. It's a pattern now. Yeah. You know, and, and we've,

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we've only heard it talked about. We've never actually, other than episode one where she sleeps

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with Nate. Any other time we haven't seen this side of Blair, Serena yet, we've only seen Blair on the

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offensive. This is the first time we've ever seen Serena take the offensive. And she's, and she

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steps into the role really well. And really, and, and it is like a little bit of a, a twist for how you

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see Serena that like, wow, she does. She can play this game. She does know Blair's game, you know. We

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also get the first mention on the show of Blair's La Perlas from Chuck, which at the time I had really no

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idea what it was. I was, I was, I was just figuring out by context. Right. But it is, it is in fact a

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brand at the time. You know, I kind of thought like Victoria's secrets, the B and all of lingerie.

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Right. But really, that's like the Tommy Hill figure to the Chanel's. Yeah. And, and, and what's

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funny is I actually went home and brought this up with Robin, the conversation about it. And I

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couldn't remember the name La Perlas. And I was like, oh yeah. But, and I described it exactly that

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way. That like, you know, you have Victoria's Secret that's like the supposed to be the fancy

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stuff, but then that's really like, but this is like the Chanel to Tommy. She goes, oh, do you mean

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La Perlas? I'm like, yeah, she's like, she knows her shit. But so yes, then we have Nate has an

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awkward conversation with the Dartmouth rep rep about his book, The Petting Zoo. Yeah. Or Nate. Oh,

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you, you only hear he's trying. Bless your heart. Yeah. Bless your heart. Oh, he's, he's, he's, he,

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and then it's like on so many levels with Nate, like I tried to read your book and I didn't get it. I don't

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really want to read your, I didn't want to read your book. I read your book and I didn't get it. I don't

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want to go to your school. I really don't want to be having this conversation. I told the guy that I

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interviewed that I don't want to be here doing this. Please let me go home. Please let me go home.

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Please let me go home. It's like everything you see in his face and like the poor kid just like has zero

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desire to have anything that is going on right now. So then we get a Bart Bass greets Eric and Lily. Bart

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thinks Eric is just back from Miami. It appears that Lily's cover story is working. As Eric is

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leaving, we see Cady explains some advanced physics projects she has been working on. Yeah, I

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love this. I said after watching episode one that when you see a recurring background that you

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should be paying attention to what's in the background as much as what's in the foreground.

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And they try very hard from the start to establish. Cady and is or Cady and is as as background as set

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dressing almost. And I remember thinking like I want to pay attention there. I feel like there's

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something there. And this was my payoff. You know that that it's like, yeah, I knew it. I knew that

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there's more to these two that there and and it also kind of. Okay. Why are these two hanging around

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Blair? When when they clearly have, you know, their own goals and their own interests. Well, of

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course, that everyone is kind of able to get something from someone in this universe. Yeah,

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the kingdom. Yeah, it's a hierarchy. Yeah. The girls are the net steps. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I left it

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right hand of Blair. We see Eric and Jenny having a touching moment. Yeah. Um, there they this is when

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when Eric tells her, right? That why not quite. Oh, they're they. Oh, she's the they start talking.

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She's talking and then you know, and she she matches like manatees. Really? Yeah. Yeah. She

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picks up. But everyone else is like buys the law with this story because they really just don't

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care. Well, yeah, they and and and they in that universe, the lie is simpler than the truth. You

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know, yep, he was in Florida. Oh, manatees. Sure. Check's out. Check's out. I don't have to ask any

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more questions about this. Kids clearly fine. But yeah, Jenny immediately clots it and you know,

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they have a little touching moment. Yeah. Um, and then so back at the refreshment table, Dan is

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disgusted that Serena is using this party to get back at Blair instead of, you know, actually

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trying to go to college. Nate politely ignoring Serena. Dan tries to give Nate more advice that

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goes over his head. But Nate generally generously asked Dan to bring the rep his drink. Yeah. And and

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starting starting with this Serena and Dan thing, it like Serena being in this world, she's going to

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get into Brown. She's going to Brown. That's where she wants to go. There's there's no question about

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that. And here's Dan, who has to work for everything, who has to literally work at this

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party just for the chance to maybe get to talk to people at the school he wants to go to. That like the

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where this opportunity that he knows was now that he, you know, was given to the guy who gets

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everything and knows she's going to get whatever she wants anyway. And so she doesn't, you know, it

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again, he's justified in being frustrated with his position. And again, this is the first time

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we're seeing this behavior. And it's like, wow, this is really validating most of what they said

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about you in the first place. So you have just firmly planning yourself in this world to me. You

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know, definitely not a good luck. Yeah. But but then when we turn to the Nate and Dan stuff and

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again, Nate doesn't have to do this. Nate, Nate can go and pretend to talk to this guy for the rest of the

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night and do what his dad wants. And Nate doesn't want to do that. And Nate could also just walk away.

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Hey, dad, I'm not feeling well. I got to go and walk away. But instead he goes, hey, take these drinks

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over to him. So yeah, he does. But I liked it this time. Actually, Dan was the first one to initiate,

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initiate like the guy of the peaceful because like he's first he's asking about him and like what's he

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like. But he's trying to give more advice. Yeah. Yeah. But then it's like, it's like, it's just

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like, uh, you do it. Yeah. Well, yeah, exactly. And once again, you see like the two of them just

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knowing that like their their problems and their differences are easily easy things to set aside.

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There's without animosity. And we can both get what we want. And it was just, it was just really, it

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was a really great moment for the two of them. Definitely like the bromance brewing there.

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Yeah. Yeah. Then we see Nate is confronted by his father as he leaves the party. Nate outright tells

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his father that he doesn't want to go to Dartmouth and storms off. Yeah. Yeah. Good for Nate. Good for

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you. It's about time, you know, you, you said the words out loud. You told him this isn't what you

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want. Good for you, Nate. Definitely no going back now. Yeah. That go to Dartmouth. No. Man, you, you

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really, you really, you sabotage that interview. You're walking out of this early. You're telling

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your dad straight up. You don't want to go man Nate. Great story arc. Can't wait to see where you go

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next. Clearly that door is shut. All right. Back in a quiet room, Eric is revealing to Jenny that he

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tried to commit suicide. Jenny promises not to tell anyone as they return to the park. Yep. Lips

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are sealed aren't they, Jenny? That door shut. Good story arc. I can't wait to see what you do next.

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Um, so are we going to see a, uh, Eric and Jenny romance? I would like to think so. They're,

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they're fucking adorable. You know, they're just too cute teenagers and like, yeah, they, they,

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they would be adorable and they're so sweet with each other and they just, yeah, I would, I would

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hope so. So we're going to get some sibling double dates. I would love that. Although I also could see

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that not happening because I could also see them not wanting to double date. What do we throw with

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Lillian Rufus into this? Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Let's just have, you know, once that happens, then

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all of them, the other four, just all looking at each other like, well, this was good. Okay. This is

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gone too far. All right. Um, Blair is at the podium and brings Dr. Ostrov up on stage and tells

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everyone that Serena has been seeking treatment at the Ostrov center for drugs and alcohol. Yeah.

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Oh my God, Blair, where you, you lined her up in your sites, you took your shot and man, like you, you

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didn't get, you didn't get the kill you thought you got, but man, you made her look, you made her look

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bad here. That's fired. Yeah. Shots fired. But like, but man, if you're going to make a shot like

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that, you got to go for the kill and I don't think, I don't think this is thin and the panty out the way

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she hoped. Yeah. Well, first of all, Serena's reaction to it. Right. Where? Well, so that's what

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we get to right here. So, Eric, I tries to reveal the truth, but much to Lily Shagrin, Serena takes the

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fall to protect her brother by going up on stage. Jenny immediately breaks her promise and reveals

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to Dan. Yeah. The Eric was actually the one in the center. Like the next seat. I promise this seat,

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your secret, say with me, I absolutely will not tell anybody. Nope. No, no secrets. Nothing,

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nothing you're talking about. It was Eric. Immediately. No, no, no, it wasn't her. It was her

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brother, Eric, you know, the one that attempted suicide. Over there. That guy. And then we see in an

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empty room, Lily confronts Serena about the reveal. Yeah. Um, and it's like, what did you want

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me to do? Like, like I was going to visit my brother that you hit away. Well, the first thing Lily says

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is, why is Blair talking about a drug problem that you don't have? You don't have a drug problem,

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right? Right. Yeah. Yeah. To question her there. Because they don't have a relationship. Yeah.

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They don't talk. They don't, they don't know each other. She doesn't know, even though her daughter

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has a drug problem, that's how little they thought. Yeah, she doesn't, she doesn't know her

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kids. And that's, and they. So we are back from little technical difficulties there. Serena

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re-enters the party and on the verge of tears, begs Blair for a truce, which is simple, snipply,

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denied. Yeah. And, and like, you see that Serena started dipping her toe back into this rivalry

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back into this, you know, thing that they had and immediately wants to get back out of it. Does not

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want to be in it at all and is ready to just run, you know, and Blair's not having it and Blair be

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blaring. Yeah. Um, yes, definitely. Uh, and then we have Serena. Dan catches up with Serena and

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finally apologizes for what you said before. They seem seem to leave things in a good place with plans

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to meet up and not talk, not talk. And I, I know I didn't really think of that as not talk. I, I feel my

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impression of it was more the two of them can't get out of each other, get out of their own way. And they

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always say the wrong thing to each other. However, there is the implication of not talking. Naughty

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business. Naughty business. Yes. Um, yeah. Okay. And then back at the party, Eric privately reveals

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to Blair that he is the one who's the patient at the Astro Center. Yeah. And man, is that look on

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Blair's face. Yeah. Riceless. Hurst. Her, she just goes, her skin goes white. Yeah. And, and like

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who does Delia, Leighton Meester, Leighton Meester? Cause like, man, does she nail that? Man,

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does she nail the just being in this position of power and having the pedestal just ripped out from

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under her. And, and because Blair is out for Serena's blood and had no intention and no idea

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that she was actually, that there were other casualties in this war and that she took that shot

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and actually hit Eric. And she, Eric's a little brother to her, you know, they've established

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this relationship and like she, you can tell that man, she did not want to hurt Eric. And she's

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genuinely shook. Yeah. Um, and we get more of this as the series goes along. But yeah, it's pretty

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clear that they all grew up together. Eric is like a little brother to everyone pretty much in the

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group. Yeah. Yeah. And, and, and I, I guess this is me. This is the first time we've seen them

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interact, but they, you get that familiarity between them. Yes. You know, you get that sense of,

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you know, that there's that history with Serena and anyone who has friends with little siblings,

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you know, that, you know, I, my, my best friend, I just saw his sisters for the first time in probably

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over a decade, but like they're still little sisters to me, you know, and one of them's my age,

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but like they're, they're still little sisters to me, you know. And I think the, not only in late in the

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semester, but also Connor Palo who plays Eric, uh, both, both it. Yeah. Cause they, they gave you that

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relationship without affing it, give you any expedition. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And you totally

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knew what was going on between them. Yeah. Yeah. You, you needed no background. You needed nothing

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else. You just instantly, they just communicated decade. They communicated their lifetime of

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knowing each other in a few glances and in a few comments and a brief conversation. It was really,

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really impressive work on both actors. Yes. I agree. And that would be the end of act three. And so

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we get into the epilogue, uh, back at the loft. Dan, thanks for Rufus for getting him into the party. So

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Dan finally, uh, yeah, he's learning. He realized. Yeah. Yeah. He knows his dad helped him

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out. Yeah. Yeah. He's, he's, and he, and he recognizes it and he's grateful. Um, yeah, it was a

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great, which again, like I was, I've been saying character development, character does bad

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thing, character learns, character does good thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Um, the, this

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show is phenomenal in how they address character development. He's also, you know, taking that

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English teacher piece aside, uh, from the, the different foundations of character

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development. And one of the biggest things is, you know, you have like what the character says and

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what the character does, but one of those really important things is what the people say about the

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character, both to them and when they're not around, you know, and, and here you have Dan, who,

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you know, is, who, who is saying about his appreciation for his dad and recognizing that

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and, and showing that, that despite his frustrations initially, his dad really knew what

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he was doing. So really not only develops the character of Dan as the kid who is willing to take

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his shots and learn lessons and, and learn along the way, but also that Rufus is a slick guy that he's

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smooth, that he knows how to get things done and he knows how to, how to work with people to trade for

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the things that he wants for his kids. So it's really great character development on both

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sides. And so Nate is once again, waking up at Chuck's suite. They're both kind of hungover

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again. Yeah. And, and Chuck is, I believe, probably in bed with a or some women. Yes. That

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typically is 10. Oh, not any woman. No, he does. I think this time he is she in the bed with him or is it

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just implied that he gets, there's a note for he, he does because he switched with the Princeton rep.

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Yeah. Because he, yeah, he got into New Jersey. Yeah. Yeah. He got into New Jersey. He got into

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Princeton. Yeah. He got into Princeton. Again, disgusting with Chuck Bass. Yeah. He, and, and

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then, you know, we've seen Chuck Bass, the sexual predator in creep. And now you see Chuck Bass, who

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also is able to woo women too. You know, he does have game, which it's also one of those things like you

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don't have to be the fucking disgusting creep you are, you know, but he, yeah, he, yeah. Well, no, no,

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buts. I mean, he doesn't have to be the fucking disgusting creep he is. He, that just goes into the

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whole psychology and then we won't go too deep into that. Cause it's just a gross subject, but, yeah.

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And it, but yeah, it's, it's, it's a power dynamic. Yeah. He, he, yeah. He likes power and he wants to

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have power over these women. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Um, but yeah, it is implied that he sleeps with the

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Princeton rat. Yeah. But then we see him at the parties, which presumably is older than high

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school age. Yeah. Yeah. Well, he makes, there's, we see everything. He makes a, he makes a cougar

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reference. He says they call him the tigers, you know, he makes a reference to the tigers, which I

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took as a cougar reference. I think it's more about wild sex. Yeah. Well, I, yeah, that, yeah. But

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yeah, definitely older than, than he is. Yeah. Well, I mean, yeah, she has to do works for the

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universities and the other, the other reps were established author and, and guy that, you know,

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old enough to be Blair's dad, you know, was on the crew team with her dad. So yeah. And it was, so you

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get the idea that that Princeton rep was not only older, but probably. We did, we did get a quick

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glance at her. I would say probably like mid thirties, early thirties. Yeah. That was my, that

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was what I was thinking in mid thirties. Uh, anyways. Um, as Nate, so we, the reason why they

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wake up is cause Nate gets a call from his dad cause he has to go off for the morning run with the

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captain. And when he shows up, it is revealed the captain invited the Dartmouth rep to the run and he

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made up a lie about why Nate let the party say he had food poisoning. Yeah. And then we see the, yeah.

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And, and we see the captain had was, was told flat out like this isn't what I want. This isn't what I'm

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going to do. This isn't what I'm doing. And he was like, well, hey son, sorry about that food

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poisoning that you really got over in like what, it's 12 hours. Let's go for a run. Hey. Um, was, was

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the race earlier in the episode, the one where Nate beats the captain and the captain's like, well,

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you know, if you wouldn't have cut me off. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Yeah. That was what I was, what I was

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trying to bring up earlier, but I couldn't remember if that was the race. So like just fucking

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captain, like he's, he's the worst. Yes. Nate has some pretty terrible parents. Um, I've, I've

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never seen Nate's mom. I, so far, I haven't, we haven't met her yet. Yeah. I have only seen one

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parent of each of the main cast members. I've heard reference to Blair's dad. I've heard reference

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to, I feel like I've heard Serena's dad referenced, but maybe not, maybe they haven't

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even brought that up. Um, Dan's mom has been referenced. Chuck's mom is referenced in the

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first episode about Chuck saying, get some of my mom's pills. Um, but yeah, we, we've not see, we've

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only seen one parent from each, from each character. That makes sense. Jenny visits Eric,

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who is back at the Ostrich Center. It is revealed that Lily does not visit very often. Surprise,

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surprise. Yeah. I mean, like going back to the fact that Lily doesn't know her kids, Lily's kids are

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there for her to show. And then, and they're not there for, to interrupt her life at all. And, and,

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and I don't feel like we see her, haunting her kids out for money the way we do the captain. But I feel

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like we do see her, um, doing it for, for image and for, her kids are just an accessory. Exactly.

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They're reflection on her, but she doesn't really care. As long as they don't embarrass her. Yeah.

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She doesn't really care what they do. Right. Yeah. And now she's embarrassed by both of them. And so

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now she, you know, but, and, and, and since she, Eric embarrassed her by doing something that

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she's kept a complete and total secret, you know, he's hidden away. And then we come to the final

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scene of the episode on a bench under a bridge. Serena's reading while avoiding a steady

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rainfall. Blair walks up and reads a letter she wrote to Serena, but never sent. White flags are

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raised and the episode ends. Yeah. I mean, the end of this episode is just fucking moving. It is

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powerful. The acting between the, between Serena and Blair, they just lay it all out. Yeah. I

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definitely get a little misty every time I watch it. Yeah. Yeah. It just, you, you see, and there is

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that thing in the back of my head of, is this another game from Blair? You know, is it Blair playing

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another game? But even if it is, you can see that she really is laying her heart out and really laying

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into where she was at that time. But Blair also, you know, she has, she is playing a game. Those are all

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true things that happened. Exactly. Exactly. And, and, you know, Blair, I think the biggest

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thing with her is that she's recovering from realizing that her shot misfired and hit there.

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And, and it's like, okay, no one else was supposed to be hurt by this. I'm willing to, I'm willing to

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listen, willing to try. And, and they do, you know, like they, they, they have this great moment. And

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like you said, it's powerful and it's emotional. And they, they really, uh, both of them, the, the,

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the, just that connection that you feel between them, it's really, it is a great end. And it's great

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that now they're friends and I can only imagine that, that door is closed, fantastic and great

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story arcs, ladies, and can't wait to see what you do together. Yep. Best friends for the rest of the

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years. Best friends for another, for another, you know, yeah, six and a half, four or five and a half

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seasons. Wonder what conflicts you'll get into with other people. Definitely not each other. Um,

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and then, uh, that is the end of the episode. So let's go ahead and get into some segments. Um,

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Steve, what do you grade this episode? This episode is an A for me. Start to finish. It is

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starting off, you know, with the choir in the beginning and just seen by scene, it is just really

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well, really well shot, really well played, really well acted and really well written. The,

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the character development is just so much, so many stories. They, they really do almost feel, you

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know, they're not coming to a close because you know that this show is only getting started. But so

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many things that feel resolved that have that carpet ripped out from under you kind of feel, it

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just really, you fantastic storytelling in this episode. I agree. Um, I'm going to give it an A plus.

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Uh, to me, this is about as perfect as episode of gospel gets. Uh, like you said, you know, all the

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way through, you got all the storylines intersecting, which I like. Um, got pretty much

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everyone interacts. You get the big reveal with Eric and Blair. You get the, the great scene at the

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end. Um, like you said, all the shots, the shot at the end was, is great. And like the very final

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scene, you get like three separate pullbacks. And it just, yeah, the acting, the directing, it all

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hit in this episode. Yeah. Cinematography things like they just, they check every box in this

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episode. And it is, yeah. And yeah, it's, it's damn near perfect. And we are going to go to our stock

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watch. Um, who do you got going up this week? So going up this week, Nate for, even though like he

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kind of got screwed in the end. He, he had told his dad what he wanted. He made a new relationship with

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Dan and in this world, you know, connecting and networking, those things boost your stock. And

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then I, and both Dan stock went up with this, you know, Dan, who looked like he was going to take a dip

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at one point, ends up really, really, uh, shooting up in the stock market. And he got that character

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development. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I also have Eric and Rufus both going up. Probably Jenny and Eric, but I

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feel like Jenny was more of vehicle for Eric to have that development, you know, why I can't give it to

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Jenny is because she revealed that, that's, oh yeah. I mean, she clearly can't keep a secret. So

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like she was a sympathetic year, but yeah, she, yes. My, my, my ups were Nate, Dan, Rufus and Eric.

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Yeah. That's, that's who I have as well. Yeah. Um, what about going down? Well, Chuck is, you know,

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still plummeting, um, looking for a rock bottom. Uh, and Blair and Serena, their, their stock both

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took a hit. Both, both of theirs went down. Yeah. Um, I had Chuck and Blair and Serena also, um, Chuck

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obviously being creepy stalking Serena and just being gross as usual. Um, Blair, uh, cause she, she

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tried to take a shot at Serena, but you know, friendly fire to Eric's the one taking, taking it.

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And then Serena just for being heady and, you know, going after something she didn't even want just

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to, you know, get back at her best friend. Yeah. Yeah. You, you, you went back into the fight and

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then realized you're not, you're out of shape, you know, you, you went to get into the ring and you

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haven't trained in far too long. And then, um, I also had the captain for being a total fucking

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douchebag as usual. And, um, also Lily for, uh, yeah, just being a bad mom. Yeah. Yeah. I, I, I

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actually completely agree with those as well. That we should actually track our stock and like,

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we'll have that in our season recap. Okay. We're going to break down all the analytics. Yeah.

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Awesome. All right, Steve. Uh, who do you have for a best outfit this week? So my favorite outfit this

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week was actually Blair at the end. And like, I had a whole conversation with Robin. Robin can't stand

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that I'm talking about fashion right now, by the way. She's like, I can't listen to you talk about

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this. But, um, I was, I was like Blair dresses for power at almost any given point. I mean, she's

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wearing something that really, you know, stands out and, and just firmly plants her in a position of

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power, I find. And that last outfit where it's, where she's raising the white flag, but she's

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still like, like you get that sense of like, it's so in, like, I feel like everything she wears is so

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intentional, you know, at all times. And I really found that, that outfit at the end was great. So I

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picked the same scene, but the different girl. I had to go with Serena this time. The hat, the way she

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matched the makeup with the outfit. Like a whole monochrome look going on. Imagine it. It was so

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Paris Serena. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sitting in the rain, reading a book. Yeah. I mean, again, when we

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were talking about that last scene and just the perfection of that moment, it was, it was right

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down to the costume design. Right down to the makeup, right down to like every detail of that

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scene was so perfectly in place. All right. Um, yeah, I think you want to plug. Absolutely. So by

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now I should have released my album, a weed wizards Christmas. It's available pretty much anywhere

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you would stream music. And there's also a single that is available called green Christmas. Check

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that one out as well. Add it to your holiday playlists. And then you can come out to McGillans

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on February 8th. I'll be there as the featured artist at the open mic. And then you can also follow

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me at Steve, the weed wizard on Tiktok and you can follow me on Instagram at Steve dot Marseine. M a r c

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h i o n. It is not spelled how it sounds. It does not look like it does not sound how it is spelled. The

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Marcher Lord. Yeah. The March I on. Yes. So you can follow me on Twitch where I review PA marijuana and

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