Episode 4

S304 - "Dan De Fleurette"

Hey there Upper East Siders! This week on the Non Judging Breakfast Pod, Leif and Steve are diving headfirst into the delicious drama of Gossip Girl Season 3, Episode 4, aptly titled "Dan de Fleurette." Buckle up, because our beloved Upper East Siders are back at it again, juggling friendships, ambitions, and, of course, the ever-watchful eye of Gossip Girl herself.

First up, we’ve got Dan, who’s finally trying to put his heart on the line with the new girl in town, Olivia—yes, the one and only Hilary Duff! Will this be the romance that finally gets him off the bench, or is he destined for another epic fail? Meanwhile, Jenny is on a mission to reclaim her crown at Constance, but let’s be real, her quest for power might just unleash a whirlwind of chaos that even she can't handle. And let’s not forget about Blair! As she navigates her identity crisis at NYU, she finds herself in a comical tug-of-war between her glamorous past and her uncertain present.

Join Leif and Steve as they dissect all the juicy plot twists, character dynamics, and those iconic fashion moments that make this episode a total must-listen. So grab your favorite breakfast treat—whether it’s a buttery croissant or a stack of waffles—and pour yourself a mimosa (or two), because this lively discussion is going to keep you coming back for all the Gossip Girl gossip you can handle!

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Edited and mixed by Leif Capicola.

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Transcript
Steve:

Should I go be a, fucking

Steve:

ridiculous child and throw a huge

Steve:

fit out there? Is that the advice

Steve:

I should take? Why are you even

Steve:

considering that? Like what?

Leif:

Because that's her natural reaction, apparently.

Steve:

Yes.

Leif:

But something else I want to throw off about the scene.

Leif:

Ursula calls Casey

Leif:

Kenny. She, like, looks over, says

Leif:

and addresses her as Kenny.

Leif:

Now, are they dropping some deep lore

Leif:

about this character that she goes by KC

Leif:

because her parents gave her a boy's name, or was

Leif:

that just the best take they could get out of Tyra Banks?

Steve:

Did Tyra Banks create the deep lore

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that she goes by KC because her parents

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named her after, Ken Griffey Jr. Ken Griffey

Steve:

Sr. Big fans. They're from Seatt.

Steve:

Foreign.

Leif:

Sires and all. You scared of loving listeners out there,

Leif:

you just tuned into the non judging breakfast pod, where

Leif:

the coffee is strong, the waffles are fresh,

Leif:

and the gossip is hotter than ever. My name is

Leif:

Leif, and I'm your seasoned Gossip Girl veteran.

Steve:

And, I'm Steve, your newbie, your greenhorn, your.

Steve:

I don't know, Leif. What am I now that we're,

Steve:

you know, three seasons in?

Leif:

Steve, your cute little attempt at perestroika is

Leif:

over. We're going back to the old way. Queens

Leif:

hierarchy and no Brooklyn wannabes.

Steve:

Well, at least I'm not hanging out with my high school

Steve:

friends. All right,

Steve:

so here's the deal, folks. Leaf has been

Steve:

watching Gossip Girl since it first aired, and I'm tuning

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in for the very first time. And together, we're your dynamic

Steve:

duo, bringing you all the drama, romance,

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and sometimes questionable fashion choices

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of this iconic 2007 series.

Leif:

That's right, grab your cocktails and your magnifying

Leif:

glasses, because each week we're dissecting every

Leif:

juicy detail of the show one episode at a

Leif:

time. We'll connect the dots, uncover those

Leif:

sneaky little Easter eggs, and of course,

Leif:

serve up some piping hot behind the scenes tea.

Leif:

Oh, and expect some iconic fandom moments

Leif:

too, because what's a deep dive without a little drama?

Steve:

And, since we are all about inclusivity here at the non

Steve:

judging breakfast pod, there is always a seat

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for you at the non judging breakfast table. So go ahead and

Steve:

grab your mimosa, a cup of coffee, or grab something

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from Chuck's stash, and let's go ahead and get

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started.

Leif:

Let's go ahead and get started.

Leif:

And just this past week, it was

Leif:

fashion week in Paris.

Steve:

Fantastic.

Leif:

Spotted Leighton Meester and Kelly Rutherford sitting

Leif:

together at the Ellie SOB show.

Leif:

Leighton has gone from auburn hair about a month

Leif:

ago at the Sagwars to a full on redhead.

Steve:

Oh, no kidding.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

Okay.

Leif:

She's also wearing an awesome, floral print, MIDI dress

Leif:

by Ellie Saab.

Steve:

I think I need to check that out. Just purely

Steve:

as a fan of the show and a fan of hers.

Leif:

And also this week, the new Lady Gaga

Leif:

album came out. Mayhem.

Steve:

I have not given that a listen yet, but

Steve:

I'll.

Leif:

I mean, it's not fame, but it's good. my

Leif:

favorite track so far is Zombie Boy.

Steve:

Okay. Okay. Okay. I. Yeah, I'm.

Steve:

I was really into her. Some of her older

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stuff. I actually do. I. I do a part

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of, Bad Romance

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when I do a, Talking Heads Lady Gaga,

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medley when I perform and includes Bad

Steve:

Romance.

Leif:

And, you know, you know, we get into this episode,

Leif:

you know, we talk about Nate doing comedy and chase to a

Leif:

comedy.

Steve:

They.

Leif:

They finally let. Let it out this episode.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah, he was.

Steve:

He.

Steve:

I loved Nate in this

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episode. Finally giving him

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something worth watching to.

Leif:

Do, even though it's not an actual story. But at least he's

Leif:

just being a breath.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah. I'm also all caught up

Steve:

on Good Cop, Bad Cop, as well. We watched

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last night. M. We watched the newest one, and we saw the other

Steve:

one. Yeah. And it's

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one of those things where the mark of a good

Steve:

actor is when you don't see

Steve:

everything else that actor has done when you're watching

Steve:

them. And I

Steve:

watched Gossip Girl this morning.

Steve:

I watched Good Cop, Bad Cop last night,

Steve:

and there was a moment when

Steve:

Blair was talking to Chuck

Steve:

where I was like, holy shit, that's the same

Steve:

actor from last night. And, even

Steve:

when she gets to do the more emotional stuff

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and the more serious

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bits, that interaction with her brother and those

Steve:

sorts of scenes, it's not

Steve:

the same. It's. It's, It's Lou.

Steve:

It's not Blair. And it's

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very. It's very

Steve:

much like Steven Root that I get

Steve:

lost with. Steven Root. Stephen Root is probably my

Steve:

favorite actor, and it's because he

Steve:

is never, ever the same

Steve:

character twice, and he's been in

Steve:

a ton of shit.

Leif:

So, we are here to Talk about season three, episode

Leif:

four, titled, Dan de Florets

Leif:

Original Air Date was October 5,

Leif:

2009 Yes, I am

Leif:

unfamiliar.

Steve:

With the film

Steve:

it references.

Leif:

It's like one of the most famous French

Leif:

language films ever, Jean de

Leif:

Floret.

Steve:

I am unfamiliar with

Steve:

this film.

Leif:

I watched both this and the sequel in French class in high

Leif:

school. this short description is a

Leif:

greedy land Owner and his backward nephew

Leif:

conspired to block the only water source for adjoining

Leif:

property in order to bankrupt the owner and force him to

Leif:

sell. So, water rights.

Steve:

Yeah, yeah.

Steve:

I wonder if they'll make a remake, an American

Steve:

remake about the water

Steve:

heights crisis that we're heading towards

Steve:

in the western

Steve:

states.

Leif:

the second one's a little weird because he falls in love with

Leif:

the girl that was like a kid in the first

Leif:

movie.

Steve:

Oh, yeah. It's sort of like Les

Steve:

Miserables. Watching them. Watching the

Steve:

play.

Leif:

They like that in France.

Steve:

Yeah, yeah. Watching the play.

Steve:

Les Miserables and loving it. It's. I loved

Steve:

that musical in high school. I saw it twice and I

Steve:

could have sung every word of it at a time. Then I read

Steve:

the book and it's like, wait, she's a

Steve:

kid. And he's like in his 20s and

Steve:

he's like, man, when that 10 year old

Steve:

grows up, she's going to be smoking. And

Steve:

then it's finally like, well, she's grown up. And I

Steve:

was right. So fucking

Steve:

creepy.

Leif:

Episode was written by John

Leif:

Stevens, previously, wrote

Leif:

episode 203, the Dark Knight, 209

Leif:

there might be blood and 214

Leif:

in the realm of the Bassett.

Steve:

Yeah, that's. That's a solid resume.

Leif:

Yeah. And directed by. Once again,

Leif:

the P. notably did the pilot and

Leif:

the backdoor pilot in season two.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

and so they, they're going a little interesting. A couple

Leif:

interesting things in the episode. One of them was that the Gossip

Leif:

Girl blast were not in their normal place.

Leif:

They were just like in the middle of the ax instead of at the end of the

Leif:

ax.

Steve:

Yeah, well, and they really were

Steve:

essential to the action in

Steve:

this. Right? They, they really

Steve:

pushed the plot in some places

Steve:

and they had to. It's been done

Steve:

before, but you're right that it was

Steve:

out of place for the most part. Except for of

Steve:

course, the beginning and end. But you're.

Steve:

Yeah, I understand what you're saying.

Leif:

Why don't you go ahead and read us that vulture

Leif:

recap?

Steve:

Once a very beautiful model told us

Steve:

about the time her eyes had been injured by a

Steve:

flash. She had to wear an eye mask and

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stay in her apartment for days in utter darkness.

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She was blind. It was hard. She told

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us to feel her way around. She was

Steve:

always bumping her long gazelle, like

Steve:

shins into everything and didn't know where

Steve:

anything was and was probably peeing all over

Steve:

herself whenever she went to the bathroom.

Steve:

We don't really know. For almost two years

Steve:

now, we've been watching the characters on Gossip Girl bumble

Steve:

around in the same darkness. It was only

Steve:

last night's episode that they finally

Steve:

were able to lift their masks and catch a

Steve:

glimpse with their beautiful but crusted

Steve:

eyes of the world and their place in

Steve:

it. Dan, after a brief

Steve:

interlude of loneliness, realized he was put

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on this earth to squire around the

Steve:

bees. Jenny Humphrey, after

Steve:

attempting to relinquish the throne at Constance

Steve:

Billard, realized that she was destined to

Steve:

rule the school. Serena, after losing

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herself briefly in a

Steve:

publicity career, realized

Steve:

her true talents lay with just being,

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like, friends with people. And Blair,

Steve:

in a hysterical reaction to being the biggest

Steve:

dork at nyu, was fast

Steve:

becoming the upper class version of

Steve:

the Wooderson, character in Dazed and

Steve:

Confused at Constance Billard before

Steve:

being reminded that she was Blair

Steve:

Waldorf. And Chuck Bass loved

Steve:

her.

Leif:

Nailed it.

Steve:

Now, I'm. If I remember

Steve:

correctly, that supermodel referenced in

Steve:

the beginning was Tyra Banks. Right?

Steve:

The supermodel that was injured by a flash and had to

Steve:

stumble around her apartment for days and

Steve:

had to be blind and was blind.

Leif:

Was it Tyra Banks or was it just someone?

Steve:

I'm almost positive it's Tyra Banks. I think that she did a

Steve:

whole thing about it on her show.

Leif:

I'm like, that.

Steve:

Yeah, I'm almost positive that that was

Steve:

Tyra Banks, because it just makes so

Steve:

much sense, also with her

Steve:

guest appearance on the show. So.

Leif:

So we get into the episode. Act one

Leif:

begins with a gospel girl blast.

Leif:

The first day of a new queen's reign.

Leif:

Nervous subjects twitter and tweet. Will she

Leif:

continue where the last queen left off or strike

Leif:

out on her own? And. And what of queen

Leif:

Bee? We hear NYU is not yet under

Leif:

her golden thumb. is she biding her time

Leif:

or simply doing time? But the real story

Leif:

this morning is a queen of the silver screen just

Leif:

enrolled at nyu. Rumor has it she wants to

Leif:

keep a low profile. Sorry, your

Leif:

majesty. Not if I can help it.

Leif:

Get set up for the episode.

Steve:

Yeah, yeah. In our first

Steve:

couple episodes, we discussed the

Steve:

Gossip Girl as the

Steve:

narrator versus Gossip Girl and her

Steve:

posts. And I

Steve:

feel like a lot of times the

Steve:

intro can be more narration

Steve:

than post, and this felt

Steve:

very clearly a post.

Leif:

Yeah. Jenny is

Leif:

prepping for her first day of school. She

Leif:

contemplates wearing the crown tiara, but

Leif:

instead sets it aside.

Steve:

We're ditching headbands.

Leif:

Yeah. Blair bumps into some

Leif:

people outside her dorm room. She is still TR Struggling

Leif:

to find her place at nyu.

Steve:

Yeah. Oh,

Steve:

Blair, you poor thing.

Leif:

If this is high school, they would have just got out of her way.

Steve:

Yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Leif:

Dan and Nate are walking the streets discussing

Leif:

Dan's lack of pop culture knowledge.

Steve:

I also. I also love that Dan is

Steve:

helping Nate with his homework still.

Steve:

He's reading over his Hawthorne paper.

Steve:

That's so sweet.

Leif:

Yeah. once again, the show is ignoring

Leif:

geography.

Steve:

Yes. Oh, yeah. They're just kind of meeting partway in

Steve:

the city somewhere.

Leif:

Well, they're definitely in NYU territory. They're definitely,

Leif:

I think, in the Village.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

And it's.

Steve:

It's like Nate's just popping by.

Leif:

Yeah, it's. It's like an hour by subway to,

Leif:

Columbia.

Steve:

Well, but is Nate taking the subway, or is he

Steve:

have a car taking him?

Leif:

Even with a car, it could be wild. There's

Leif:

traffic.

Steve:

Yeah. And I. Where I can see

Steve:

it making a little sense is I'm going to

Steve:

go see my friend who's helping me with my homework.

Steve:

I'm going to go see the guy that I know is probably

Steve:

one of the smartest guys I know.

Leif:

Honestly, I'm kind of surprised Nate's even going to class.

Steve:

Just banging.

Leif:

Yeah. And playing lacrosse.

Leif:

As Nate leaves for Columbia, Dan

Leif:

discovers, after ordering that he forgot

Leif:

his wallet, a young woman who introduces herself

Leif:

as Kate offers to buy Dan's coffee

Leif:

for him.

Steve:

Hillary Duff.

Leif:

Yep. On the scene.

Steve:

Yeah, on the scene. When I moved to

Steve:

Seattle, I, think it may have even

Steve:

been the first time I really injured my back

Steve:

badly. And

Steve:

I was sitting at home all the time

Steve:

and came across Lizzie McGuire. Now here I

Steve:

was, 22 years old,

Steve:

23. And

Steve:

it, was accidentally on. I never was into

Steve:

Nickelodeon shows.

Steve:

And then I ended up accidentally watching this show

Steve:

for an episode or two and was cracking up.

Steve:

The dude from Revenge of the Nerds played her

Steve:

dad, and he was

Steve:

hilarious. The show was so well

Steve:

written. It captured that middle

Steve:

school energy. And I was fresh

Steve:

out of student teaching middle school kids,

Steve:

so it really just captured all of that, and I

Steve:

absolutely loved that show. And it

Steve:

became appointment TV for me for a

Steve:

long time. And after a

Steve:

while, a friend of mine said something

Steve:

that sexualized

Steve:

Hillary Duff, and

Steve:

it horrified me when they said

Steve:

it, and it just repulsed me. And I couldn't

Steve:

watch the show anymore because I was like that.

Steve:

Like, she was just this little,

Steve:

little kid, you know,

Steve:

experiencing middle school. And it

Steve:

was so well done, and it was so

Steve:

awesome, and I was just so

Steve:

disappointed that, like, somebody really

Steve:

just, like, grossed me out

Steve:

about that, about the show, the

Steve:

way that they talked about her.

Leif:

Well, as someone who's had a lifelong crush on Hillary

Leif:

du years younger than you.

Steve:

Yeah. appropriately aged to have.

Leif:

She's like, the same age as me.

Steve:

Yes, exactly.

Leif:

And, yeah, but I have actually never.

Steve:

Seen, Leslie McGuire. That's really

Steve:

funny. You. Honestly.

Leif:

I know the basic concept, but, yeah, they're actually seeing it.

Steve:

Yeah. Honestly, you should. You should go. At least watch the

Steve:

first season or two, because it is

Steve:

really clever, really witty.

Steve:

I feel like at this

Steve:

point, looking back, it

Steve:

has a lot of sort of. I don't want to

Steve:

say cliche things, but really, they

Steve:

were ahead of their time with a lot of their

Steve:

narration, and it was this cross with the

Steve:

animation and the real world, and

Steve:

it was just really clever. It was

Steve:

a really clever show, and Hilary Duff

Steve:

was hilarious on it. She was

Steve:

amazing.

Leif:

Blair goes to a coffee shop looking for a club that

Leif:

discusses finance, but instead finds nerds discussing

Leif:

he Man.

Steve:

We also do role play.

Steve:

Why'd you tell her that?

Leif:

A frustrated Blair calls Chuck, who gives some

Leif:

exposition about Georgina visiting her parents in

Leif:

Connecticut. Blair can't figure out NYU

Leif:

people and, begins to reminisce about Constance.

Steve:

Blair, if you want to rule over

Steve:

people, then you're going to need to, like, start a

Steve:

business or a club, but

Steve:

people don't give a shit about you here. So

Steve:

pivot. You need to pivot.

Leif:

Jenny and Eric are walking to school.

Leif:

Jenny is happy about the end of Hierarchies, but Eric

Leif:

seems less optimistic. As usual,

Leif:

Eric is right, because as they arrive at school, Eric and

Leif:

Jenny are greeted by a trio of new minions

Leif:

that are dressed like Jenny clones. A

Leif:

disgusted Jenny tells her new minions to call a mass

Leif:

meeting.

Steve:

Now wash your

Steve:

eyes and then tell everyone to meet

Steve:

me.

Leif:

Yeah. So we meet Carmen, Celeste, and

Leif:

Jane.

Steve:

Okay. Named named minions.

Leif:

Rufus and Serena are role playing

Leif:

Serena telling Lily about not going to

Leif:

Brown. Hilarious scene.

Steve:

It's great. I really love it.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

Yeah. I. I loved how they

Steve:

both know Lily well enough

Steve:

that when she says she would put her two fingers to a temple,

Steve:

Rufus is immediately like, oh, yeah, I know the look.

Leif:

You know, I've gotten the look.

Steve:

Yes.

Leif:

Playtime is interrupted by a returning Lily.

Leif:

After hugs are exchanged, Lily immediately asks why

Leif:

Serena's at school, and the sweet scene

Leif:

quickly cuts.

Steve:

You say hugs, Rufus. Stop trying

Steve:

to make out with her right

Steve:

in front of Serena.

Steve:

He kept going in when she was like,

Steve:

okay, we said

Steve:

hello.

Leif:

It's been a few months. He needs

Leif:

that. Let the kid leave the room.

Leif:

Dan is getting to know his new friend Kate.

Steve:

Get her number, you fool.

Leif:

Dan doesn't have game. He just.

Steve:

He doesn't. He doesn't. He's Just.

Steve:

He just lucks into

Steve:

sex.

Leif:

Well, I guess that that jawline probably helps.

Steve:

It's whenever he actually does

Steve:

start to exhibit game, he

Steve:

just completely himself. Like when

Steve:

the season one two summer

Steve:

when he was clearly banging two women at the

Steve:

same time, but, like, was clearly

Steve:

fucking it up as well.

Leif:

Back in the penthouse, Lily is very disappointed in

Leif:

Serena. Serena promises to get a job to prove

Leif:

herself. Lily doesn't blame Rufus, but she is going to

Leif:

force her daughter to go to Brown. Lily has been

Leif:

spending too much time with Cece, and I think Rufus needs to

Leif:

make some sweet love to her so she can calm down a bit.

Steve:

I get Lily here. I get it.

Steve:

I think she's wrong, but I

Steve:

get it.

Leif:

She's wrong in the general sense and she shouldn't be trying to

Leif:

force it. But in Serena's case, the best

Leif:

thing for her is, you know, go to college and find out who she

Leif:

is.

Steve:

You have unlimited money. Exactly. I

Steve:

agree with Lily's

Steve:

notion. You can just go do this

Steve:

thing. Just go live there.

Steve:

Go and just go live there and do whatever you

Steve:

want there. I get where

Steve:

Lily's point, the going about it the

Steve:

wrong way of forcing her into it.

Steve:

Let your kid take a year off. I would not

Steve:

like it if my kid came to me and said,

Steve:

I want to take a year off. But I

Steve:

would say, if this is really what you want to

Steve:

do, then this is. It's

Steve:

your life. This is for you to do.

Steve:

As of right now, all, of my kids, none of my kids wanted to

Steve:

take that gap year. Emily

Steve:

graduates this year and starts college in the

Steve:

fall. She's already committed to a

Steve:

school, so they all had that

Steve:

in their path to go right to school. I

Steve:

know I wouldn't have liked it if they did

Steve:

not. At one point, Bailey started complaining

Steve:

about college life and about, oh, this

Steve:

class is useless and it's so dumb. And it's.

Steve:

And we were like, knock it off.

Steve:

You. You can't just hate everything. You gotta

Steve:

find something positive here and go with

Steve:

it. And they were like, okay, you're right.

Steve:

And because we started hearing the

Steve:

thoughts of dropping out without a plan

Steve:

of what to do with that. And at this point, for any

Steve:

of the kids, if they're like, okay, college isn't my thing.

Steve:

Okay, where are we going from here?

Leif:

Yeah, we get the last few

Leif:

lines of a speech from Jenny declaring that hierarchies are

Leif:

done at Constance. Most people are cheering,

Leif:

but a few others, like the new minions, don't seem

Leif:

too pleased.

Steve:

Yeah, I love how they made sure

Steve:

to have Everyone there that you

Steve:

had, the kids that were clearly like the band

Steve:

geeks and just the kids who

Steve:

weren't dressed in the fancy uniforms, but the

Steve:

very plain ones that they really made

Steve:

sure that it was

Steve:

diverse. And then it comes to

Steve:

make you realize the whole time Blair was

Steve:

ruling Constance, she was really just ruling five

Steve:

people. Four people. Yeah, it was four.

Steve:

It was four people that really

Steve:

followed anything that she said. Because right

Steve:

now Jenny's dealing with three people.

Leif:

Blair is still at the coffee shop, annoyed at the

Leif:

nerds talking about the genius of Skeletor,

Leif:

and gets a text from Celeste. It

Leif:

reads, help. Jenny Humphrey is destroying

Leif:

everything.

Steve:

Kind of pathetic. Be.

Leif:

Yeah, we get one of those mid act

Leif:

blasts here.

Leif:

Well, well, word is the changes in the

Leif:

era. Constance Billard. I have to wonder,

Leif:

when queen bee finds out how little J is treating her

Leif:

legacy, will she let it slide?

Steve:

I doubt it.

Leif:

Vanessa comes back to her dorm room to find a

Leif:

woman on her phone hanging posters. The

Leif:

woman says she works for V's new roommate and hands her an

Leif:

NDA to sign. Then her new roommate shows

Leif:

up, who is apparently the movie star everyone has been talking

Leif:

about, but also Dan's new friend, Kate.

Steve:

The publicist, Casey. played by Deanna

Steve:

Russo. I recognized her

Steve:

immediately. My little sister

Steve:

was super into the Nickelodeon show Hey

Steve:

dude. And she was on that.

Steve:

And I hated the show. Never wanted to watch it.

Steve:

It was a stupid kid girl show.

Steve:

And to, you know, however old I was,

Steve:

Steve. And yet she

Steve:

was the one that was like. But

Steve:

there's. There is the pretty one that I don't mind

Steve:

watching.

Leif:

there's always the pretty one.

Steve:

There's always the pretty one. But I hated that show. My

Steve:

sister loved it. I. Sometimes I wonder

Steve:

if there were things my sister loved because of how much I hated them.

Steve:

probably. Yeah.

Leif:

We move into Act 2. Kate

Leif:

slash. Olivia apologizes to Vanessa for taking down

Leif:

Vanessa's Godard poster. Vanessa is a little

Leif:

starstruck.

Steve:

That was sweet. I really liked

Steve:

Olivia's response and

Steve:

the. Her response to the NDA and

Steve:

all of that stuff.

Steve:

NDA? Yeah.

Leif:

Non disclosure agreement.

Steve:

Yeah, I was. Yeah. My brain couldn't wrap around it for a

Steve:

second.

Leif:

They call it something else in the episode, but that's what it was, right?

Steve:

That's why I was thrown off, because I know that they said something

Steve:

else.

Leif:

Confidential agreement.

Steve:

Yeah. Confidentiality agreement. Yeah.

Leif:

We get a montage of Serena applying for

Leif:

jobs or even unpaid internships in various

Leif:

fashion related businesses for once. Despite her

Leif:

connections, Serena is struggling to get something she

Leif:

wants. The fashionistas take the

Leif:

meetings because they want Serena at the parties, but

Leif:

don't want to hire for a job with good

Leif:

cause. Yeah. She has no skills.

Steve:

Yeah. You want to just come here out of high school

Steve:

without any fashion experience? People go to college

Steve:

for this. Hey, go to college and then come back

Steve:

and do this.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

Oh, this is the direction I want.

Steve:

Okay. If you think in fashion, go to

Steve:

college for fashion.

Leif:

Serena.

Steve:

Serena. Zero experience doing anything

Steve:

but posing for the paparazzi

Steve:

and gallivanting.

Leif:

Yes. Serena then

Leif:

eavesdrops on a conversation between Olivia and her

Leif:

publicist at a restaurant. Serena chimes in with

Leif:

some advice on avoiding the

Leif:

paparazzi, and Olivia comments. Serena's on

Leif:

Serena's met ball dress. Casey

Leif:

is impressed with Serena and ask her if she has any interest in working

Leif:

in publicity.

Steve:

First of all, Serena's response to

Steve:

what do you mean you quelled a revolution?

Steve:

When she's talking to Blair. Oh, Jesus,

Steve:

Blair, what did you do? The,

Steve:

Olivia recognizing

Steve:

Serena, too. When

Steve:

Olivia. When she gives her the advice

Steve:

on how to sneak out the back and how to avoid the

Steve:

paparazzi and how she

Steve:

recognized Serena. Which it's funny because

Steve:

Serena, the thing that you could do, which it

Steve:

wasn't really a thing yet, but she's on

Steve:

this influencer road. Serena doesn't

Steve:

need to go to college. She just needs someone to invent

Steve:

TikTok so that she can

Steve:

do that.

Leif:

Which is funny because one of the main characters in the

Leif:

reboot is an influencer,

Leif:

which.

Steve:

That makes sense, you know, that.

Leif:

That, like, there she's, like, constantly talking about, like,

Leif:

how. How many flowers she has.

Steve:

That's funny. One of my characters, one of

Steve:

the characters in the new DND game that I

Steve:

just started, is actually playing an influencer

Steve:

in. In the D and D world.

Steve:

And that is going to be a lot of fun for me to play

Steve:

with.

Leif:

But it is also kind of funny that Serena is known for her met

Leif:

ball dresses when. That's a totally Blake Lively

Leif:

thing.

Steve:

Yeah, that. Yeah, that's true.

Steve:

Also, the fact that she

Steve:

calls her a diva when she says you're a

Steve:

diva whisperer. There is no

Steve:

moment in this episode

Steve:

where Olivia is a

Steve:

diva. She is an anti diva.

Steve:

If anything, the way that she. I'm

Steve:

so sorry she took down your poster and re

Steve:

hung Vanessa's stuff.

Steve:

That's not diva behavior. She's

Steve:

not a diva whisperer. She just talked to a

Steve:

person.

Leif:

She was kind of being a diva in this scene, I would

Leif:

say, because she, like, she, she doesn't want to do the press Stuff,

Leif:

and blah, blah, blah. She don't want to, you know, do the obligation. She just

Leif:

wants to, you know, act.

Steve:

And, and I feel like the diva aspect

Steve:

here was being

Steve:

riled up by this publicity

Steve:

publicist who is not

Steve:

doing what you want. I hired you.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

And they're not. She's not meeting in the

Steve:

middle. She's not doing what her client wants. She's doing what

Steve:

she thinks is best for her client.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

Which is good conflict. Except for the fact that they

Steve:

clear that Casey was written to be just such

Steve:

a terrible person.

Leif:

Back at school, the new minions, now wearing headbands,

Leif:

are arraigning the school back under the monarchy.

Leif:

Jenny and Eric smell Blair's signature Chanel number

Leif:

five. All over this scheme.

Steve:

The headbands seem to have VW

Steve:

engraved on them.

Leif:

Nate is busting Dan's traps for not getting Kate's

Leif:

number. Kate slash Olivia happens to walk

Leif:

into the same cafe. Nate of course,

Leif:

recognizes her, but just encourages Dan to go

Leif:

talk to her again.

Steve:

Nate fucking with Dan is

Steve:

hilarious. It was so great that he turns

Steve:

around, he's like, oh, that's her.

Steve:

Awesome. And just downplays

Steve:

it.

Leif:

A sign.

Steve:

That's a sign.

Leif:

That's. That's Olivia Burke.

Steve:

But no.

Leif:

that. That's a sign.

Steve:

Yes. Catches himself.

Leif:

After Olivia fails to answer to Kate twice, Dan

Leif:

gives her a little shoulder tap.

Leif:

K. Olivia accepts the

Leif:

invitation to pizza. As Dan and Olivia walk out,

Leif:

Nate gives him the little bro nod and fist pump.

Leif:

Yeah, she's.

Steve:

She's skipping Larry King for lonely Boy.

Leif:

Yeah, man.

Steve:

And Nate again, just

Steve:

cracking up as they leave. Like, you

Steve:

dumb. Like lucky

Steve:

bastard. Turn on your TV

Steve:

sometime.

Leif:

Serena gets introduced to her first assignment in

Leif:

her new job. Looks like S is going to be babysitting

Leif:

a bigger diva than Blair.

Steve:

I can't with Tyra Banks. I never could.

Steve:

I haven't always found her

Steve:

to just be

Steve:

so self righteous and

Steve:

obnoxious and she is always.

Steve:

And while also coming off very

Steve:

vapid at times. And I've

Steve:

never enjoyed watching her

Steve:

in anything ever. And the streak

Steve:

continues.

Leif:

I liked her in her earlier stuff before she became like a

Leif:

reality star. Like in Fresh Prince

Leif:

and Higher Learning.

Steve:

I don't remember her in Fresh Prince.

Leif:

She was Will's friend from Philly that came out to LA

Leif:

and they had, they had like a little romance thing going.

Steve:

I, don't. I. Yeah, I, I do.

Leif:

She was like 18.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

And then she was also at Higher Learning.

Steve:

I don't remember. I know I've seen

Steve:

Higher Learning, but I Was.

Leif:

Watch it again. It's a great movie. Okay.

Steve:

Yeah, I was really high. Like, we were all.

Leif:

You should definitely watch that.

Steve:

It's a.

Leif:

It's a amazing movie.

Steve:

Is. Wait, which one is that? The one I'm thinking about, Higher Learning

Steve:

is the one where. Wait, is that a drama or a comedy?

Leif:

Definitely a drama.

Steve:

Oh, okay. I'm getting it confused with

Steve:

something else.

Leif:

So you got higher, education.

Leif:

Yeah. Got Omar Epps. Got Christy

Leif:

Swanson. what's his name?

Steve:

The.

Leif:

The white guy from Brooklyn.

Steve:

Yes. Rapaport. Yes. Oh, yeah, I

Steve:

have. Yeah.

Leif:

That's a really good burn. Yeah.

Steve:

Yes, I have seen that. That's a.

Steve:

I was getting it confused with the.

Steve:

I think it's called Higher Education, where it's like a

Steve:

weed movie in college where it's

Steve:

like, with. Is.

Leif:

Is it the guy in the Critic?

Leif:

Oh, maybe that's when.

Leif:

What's the guy who plays the critic?

Steve:

John Lovett.

Leif:

Yeah. Isn't he in Higher Education?

Steve:

I think so. Yeah. He may be. Yeah.

Leif:

And, like, Tia Carrera, maybe.

Steve:

Maybe. Yeah. but.

Leif:

Yeah, yeah, but Bust, rhymes is also Empire

Leif:

Learning.

Steve:

Yes. Yeah. No, no, I remember that movie

Steve:

now, and I. Yes, it came out around the time

Steve:

is American History X, I

Steve:

believe. Yeah.

Leif:

Somewhere around there, it had.

Steve:

Because it had those similar kind of themes to

Steve:

it that, like. Yeah,

Steve:

man, Now. Now that I'm remembering that movie, like,

Steve:

it's a good movie,

Steve:

but I came with Tyra Banks.

Leif:

She plays Omar Epps, girlfriend,

Leif:

slash track star with him.

Steve:

Oh, yeah. Okay.

Leif:

Poor S. No one told her this was going to

Leif:

be a horror movie.

Leif:

That's what we get from Gossip World. Before we move into Act

Leif:

3, Serena's bonding with her new client,

Leif:

Ursula. We learn that she has a really important scene

Leif:

in the upcoming movie premiere.

Steve:

Yeah, nothing can go wrong here.

Leif:

So she mentioned she's playing Josephine Baker. Do you know

Leif:

who that is at all? M. Okay.

Steve:

Yeah. during World War II. Well, she was

Steve:

a black jazz, singer.

Steve:

Right. Or is it more opera?

Leif:

she was an entertainer.

Steve:

Oh, okay.

Leif:

she did a lot of stuff. She was the first black woman to star in a major

Leif:

motion picture.

Steve:

Yes.

Leif:

she was a burlesque dancer.

Steve:

Yes.

Leif:

And singer.

Steve:

Yes.

Leif:

And she was, like, basically the biggest entertainer in

Leif:

Europe for a while.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

she had a cheetah that you brought up on stage with her,

Leif:

and it would jump down into the. The pit to bother the

Leif:

musicians.

Steve:

Fantastic.

Leif:

Yes.

Steve:

But, yeah, just know if I ever. If you ever

Steve:

read that I died from a big cat

Steve:

mauling me to death that my last words were.

Leif:

And then she. During World War II, she did work, for

Leif:

French counterintelligence.

Steve:

Yes. And that's one of the things that I knew the most,

Steve:

that she was actually

Steve:

active in the

Steve:

war as well, in the war effort.

Leif:

But she keeps talking about the scene

Leif:

where she distracts the guards. Is she just doing a

Leif:

burlesque dance?

Steve:

Yeah, she's just going to go out.

Leif:

There and how is that going to be some award winning performance?

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah.

Leif:

No wonder why I got cut.

Steve:

Okay, this part's kind of okay.

Leif:

We a little gratuitous.

Steve:

We could actually find footage of the actual.

Steve:

Actually probably can't, but.

Leif:

Chuck goes to the Waldorf Pine House to invite Blair to

Leif:

the big premiere. However, he discovered that Blair is

Leif:

hosting a high school sleepover.

Steve:

Be wearing. She's wearing

Steve:

a skirt that is very

Steve:

much the cut of something

Steve:

she would wear to Constance, though it's

Steve:

a grown up version of it. And it's not wearing the

Steve:

colors, even the top. The entire

Steve:

outfit is

Steve:

schoolgirl esque.

Leif:

Yeah, it's high school.

Steve:

Yes.

Leif:

A clueless Dan is flirting with Olivia, who says she

Leif:

likes Dan, but that it wouldn't work out between them.

Leif:

Once again, dad says the worst possible thing.

Leif:

Yeah, you're so down to earth.

Steve:

You're so down to earth. And you don't have all the attention on you

Steve:

all the time like my exes did.

Steve:

There's an alarming number of people who turn

Steve:

and stop to look at you on the street. I mean, you're just so

Steve:

beautiful.

Leif:

Yes.

Steve:

Oh, boy. Dan, you will

Steve:

understand. Which that line, like,

Steve:

I don't understand you will, is also a

Steve:

little bit arrogant on your part,

Steve:

Olivia, because you don't know that you're rooming with his best

Steve:

friend. And this guy clearly does not give a shit about

Steve:

anything you've been in. So if it weren't for

Steve:

circumstance, he would have just gone on with his life

Steve:

not knowing who you were for a little while.

Leif:

Outside the school, Chuck finds Jenny and

Leif:

recruits her to help him snap Blair back to the

Leif:

present.

Steve:

Love that Chuck just can't with pathetic Blair.

Steve:

It's so the guy

Steve:

that would hang out at the high school

Steve:

after high school was over.

Steve:

Because I remember being, like a sophomore

Steve:

junior, and friends of mine would

Steve:

graduate and then they'd come back to visit and it'd be

Steve:

like, oh, it's great to see you. And then you don't

Steve:

see them again until Christmas. But then

Steve:

there's that one guy who it's just kind of like every

Steve:

Week. And then, like, every now and then, it'll be, like, every

Steve:

day. And it's like,

Steve:

why are you. Why are you still here?

Leif:

Serena is helping a frazzled Ursula get ready

Leif:

for the premiere. When Ursula leaves the room,

Leif:

Casey informs Serena that Ursula's big scene got

Leif:

cut. Casey tells Serena that they can't

Leif:

tell Ursula and Serena.

Steve:

Serena, you know how shitty you're being

Steve:

already. You already know that.

Steve:

That's not good.

Leif:

Dan thinks he was dumped, so he calls his fallback

Leif:

girl, Vanessa. It looks like they are going to the

Leif:

premiere as well. Did someone say party of the

Leif:

week?

Steve:

Yes, and I picked up on that as

Steve:

well. Where. Oh, this premiere is the

Steve:

party. I actually really

Steve:

noticed it the second run through.

Steve:

At this point, I realized, okay, this is the party of the week.

Steve:

The premiere. The second time through, it

Steve:

was. The seeds were so much more

Steve:

obvious.

Leif:

At the red carpet, the stars are arriving. Dan is

Leif:

looking For Vanessa and Mrs. The arrival of

Leif:

Olivia, being greeted by her adoring fans.

Steve:

It was cute.

Leif:

It was cute, it was funny, but it just

Leif:

feels, like, out of place in this show.

Steve:

yeah, yeah.

Leif:

It's like more of a sitcom thing.

Steve:

I. I feel like this show

Steve:

realized there, that it could only take what it was

Steve:

doing last season so far, and now they're kind

Steve:

of trying to find

Steve:

a new voice almost,

Steve:

so it feels like they're kind of throwing things out there to.

Steve:

To just sort of shake it up. The

Steve:

Gossip Girl interludes being out of

Steve:

place and scenes like this

Steve:

that are a little bit more sitcommy. I'm,

Steve:

wondering if that's an intent. They're

Steve:

trying to find something at the

Steve:

Waldorf penthouse.

Leif:

Blair is sitting back and taking in some adulation

Leif:

of her own. Dorota pleas for Blair to stop the

Leif:

nonsense, but it falls on deaf ears.

Steve:

So pathetic. Even Dorota is

Steve:

like, I can't with this. I'm watering

Steve:

down these martinis, and these

Steve:

children don't even realize it.

Steve:

What is happening here?

Leif:

Jenny, in all her gothic Barbie

Leif:

glory, arrives, at the premiere on the arm of Chuck

Leif:

Bass. This fact is almost immediately

Leif:

relayed to Blair via Gossip Girl. Blast.

Steve:

And Blair is just so much more pathetic here when

Steve:

she's. Who wants to hear about how Chuck. How I

Steve:

got Chuck Bass to tell me he loves me? And then when

Steve:

they all. And then they all gather around

Steve:

and get this bomb from Gossip Girl

Steve:

that Chuck Bass is

Steve:

at. At the premiere with Jenny, and,

Leif:

Nothing new, but Chuck Bass was being very gross in this

Leif:

scene.

Steve:

Oh, yeah. Absolutely.

Leif:

Spotted on the red carpet. Jenny Humphrey on

Leif:

the arm of the Red Baron. Chuck Bass, guest

Leif:

queen BE isn't starring in this melodrama.

Steve:

It's got a sting. Yep.

Leif:

It seems Rufus convinced Lily to come to Serena's

Leif:

event on the premise that it was the date. However, when

Leif:

Lily discovers the ruse, she immediately shits all over

Leif:

Serena's job. Lily gives the advice to be

Leif:

a good friend over obeying her boss's orders

Leif:

though.

Steve:

Good advice. I think that that would have been the right

Steve:

thing to do.

Leif:

It's definitely the moral thing to do.

Steve:

It's the moral thing to do.

Leif:

But is that what Lily really

Leif:

believes? Or is she intentionally sabotaging Serena's

Leif:

job?

Steve:

Yeah, because Lily. Because Lily would have

Steve:

been the publicist.

Leif:

Yeah. You would think Lily would say, you know, follow your boss's

Leif:

orders.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

But.

Steve:

Yeah, well. And

Steve:

Lily isn't taking this job seriously,

Steve:

so it's not even so much as that.

Leif:

Turns out she's right.

Steve:

She was. But it wasn't so much take

Steve:

the doing it to sabotage the

Steve:

job. It's the take the friendship seriously.

Steve:

Because that's the thing you're going to get out of this. The job isn't

Steve:

going to be serious.

Leif:

Dan and Olivia bump into each other. And Dan still

Leif:

hasn't figured out the big secret. After figuring

Leif:

out they both mutually know Vanessa,

Leif:

Dan finally has the light bulb moment when the flash of a

Leif:

camera shines in his face.

Steve:

Perfect. It was so the way he.

Steve:

Wait.

Leif:

What's going on? What are you doing?

Steve:

Oh, you could have just told me you didn't want to be here. You

Steve:

could have just told me you didn't want to come with me.

Steve:

Wait, I'm looking for my. For Vanessa?

Steve:

You mean Vanessa Abrams? What? Like how do

Steve:

you know this? And

Steve:

then him finally getting it your

Steve:

floor.

Leif:

And then we move into Act 5 as

Leif:

everyone is watching the movie. Ursula sees that her scene was

Leif:

cut and she storms out of the theater. Casey and

Leif:

Serena follower.

Steve:

Yeah. And then that leads to the next scene.

Leif:

It turns out that Lily was right. Casey was

Leif:

just using Serena. Casey is hoping Ursula will be

Leif:

humiliated by the press because it will be good

Leif:

publicity.

Steve:

And Casey is just. She's.

Steve:

She's shitty. This whole. Yeah, everything about her is

Steve:

shitty. Going in and rearranging

Steve:

somebody's room is shitty.

Leif:

She's very two dimensional character.

Steve:

Very two dimensional character.

Leif:

Blair arrives at the premiere after party and

Leif:

goes after Jenny. However, Chuck quickly

Leif:

steps in and takes the blame. Chuck gives a big speech

Leif:

to Blair about why she can't give up because that would

Leif:

make him him look bad.

Steve:

It's funny how once,

Steve:

again, this sick and twisted

Steve:

relationship comes out. Sweet

Steve:

in the way he's like, you're

Steve:

telling me that I'm easier to win over than all

Steve:

of these idiots

Steve:

at nyu.

Steve:

Like, that's. That. That's shitty.

Steve:

And remember, next time you forget your Blair

Steve:

Waldorf, remember, I'm Chuck Bass and I love you.

Steve:

again, they're twisted, but it's

Steve:

oddly sweet. Despite him,

Steve:

again, like you said, making it about him,

Steve:

I didn't like it.

Leif:

Dan is waiting in the empty theater for

Leif:

Olivia. Olivia apologizes for not telling Dan

Leif:

sooner. She was just enjoying a normal

Leif:

relationship. It looks like it was not meant to be

Leif:

after all.

Steve:

Dan, why are you still there? Why

Steve:

are you still just sitting in the theater?

Leif:

He knows that she wasn't going to apologize,

Leif:

okay? Because Dan

Leif:

is the king of NY show.

Steve:

you know what? Hold on. I take it back.

Steve:

Dan is the guy that would sit there until the very

Steve:

fucking end of the credits.

Leif:

Oh, yeah, definitely.

Steve:

Dan is the guy that's sitting there like, oh,

Steve:

I didn't realize that John. That John was a

Steve:

compositor now.

Leif:

And also judging everyone from leaving early.

Steve:

yes. And, you know, these people put in hard work. We should at

Steve:

least stay to see their names.

Steve:

So, yeah, I take it back. It makes total sense for

Steve:

Dan to be the last guy in the theater.

Leif:

Blair gets stopped by a photographer that specifically

Leif:

wants to take Blair Waldorf's photo.

Steve:

Definitely not a setup.

Leif:

In a quiet room, Ursula is crying over

Leif:

losing the scene that could have made her career.

Leif:

Casey, advises for Ursula to go out and throw

Leif:

a fit for the press. When pressed, Serena

Leif:

gives the opposite advice. Serena gets

Leif:

fired.

Steve:

This scene where she's like, you

Steve:

should go out there and steal their day and make a big

Steve:

scene. And Tyra Banks turns, she's like, is that what

Steve:

you think I should do? You

Steve:

just listened to some horrible advice, and now

Steve:

you're asking a teenager, should I go

Steve:

be a fucking,

Steve:

ridiculous child and throw a huge

Steve:

fit out there? Is that the advice

Steve:

I should take? Why are you even

Steve:

considering that? Like, what?

Leif:

Because that's her natural reaction? Apparently.

Steve:

Yes.

Leif:

But, something else I want to throw up about the scene.

Leif:

Ursula calls Casey

Leif:

Kenny. She looks over, says,

Leif:

and just calls her and addresses her as Kenny.

Leif:

Now, are they dropping some deep lore about

Leif:

this character that she goes by KC because

Leif:

her parents gave her a boy's name, or was that just

Leif:

the best take they could get out of Tyra Banks?

Steve:

Did Tyra Banks create the deep lore

Steve:

that she goes by KC because her parents

Steve:

named her after Ken Griffey Jr. Ken Griffey

Steve:

Sr. Big fans. They're from Seattle.

Leif:

but after that scene, we move into the

Leif:

epilogue. Lily comes into Serena's room

Leif:

to find her packing a suitcase. Serena is leaving

Leif:

Lily's house but not going to Brown. Now that

Leif:

she has failed to sway Serena, as well, Lily

Leif:

shifts the blame onto Rufus.

Steve:

Yeah, Lily. It's Rufus's fault.

Leif:

Lily.

Steve:

And. And to be fair, Rufus is like,

Steve:

let her. Let her go. Like, this isn't the

Steve:

way you're going to win her over.

Steve:

What are you thinking? What? What

Steve:

teenager does the thing

Steve:

that their parents just tell them they have to

Steve:

do? Especially Serena, who has

Steve:

never. Who, when you tell her to do something,

Steve:

goes to Spain.

Leif:

If only Rufus would have taken his own advice last

Leif:

year.

Steve:

Yes. Jesus Christ.

Steve:

If only he was as good a parent to Jenny as he is to

Steve:

anybody else.

Leif:

That just shows that Rufus M or Lily are perfect for each other

Leif:

because they gotta parent everyone else's kids, but not their own.

Steve:

But not their own. And

Steve:

there you gotta also wonder if how much of it is Rufus

Steve:

now looking back and learning from what he

Steve:

did? And maybe. Maybe even regretting

Steve:

some of it. Well, he should regret it because Jenny is.

Steve:

That's gonna. That's gonna escalate.

Leif:

Vanessa and Olivia do some roommate bonding.

Leif:

Vanessa remembers her time with Scott and pushes Olivia to go

Leif:

after Dan.

Steve:

Vanessa coming through as a wingman in

Steve:

this. Good job, Vanessa.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Don't know why she's so obsessed with Scott, though.

Steve:

Yeah, he's. He's shitty

Steve:

and boring and boring and,

Steve:

yeah, hardly real.

Leif:

Blair lets Serena know that she can stay at her house before

Leif:

arriving back at her dorm. It looks like Blair

Leif:

finally tracked down some NYU minions. Looks like

Leif:

she also received a schoolgirl uniform from Chuck for their

Leif:

next roleplay scenario.

Steve:

Fans, is this the story you want?

Steve:

Is Blair getting a new

Steve:

dominion really what we need?

Steve:

I really just want to see Blair pivot

Steve:

and find a new way to fit in without

Steve:

this fucking hierarchy shit. I want her to learn

Steve:

that this isn't how life works

Steve:

outside of your super

Steve:

rich prep school.

Steve:

That this isn't how,

Steve:

especially at a place like NYU where

Steve:

people don't give a shit that you have a lot of money. People are

Steve:

going to be more mad at you that you have a ton of money that you're

Steve:

flaunting around than if you were just fucking

Steve:

cool.

Leif:

I mean, NYU does have a business school.

Steve:

okay, go to that then.

Steve:

And do that.

Leif:

Well, it looks like she's now Finding her people.

Leif:

And the one girl we did meet in

Leif:

the second episode, she was the one person that showed up

Leif:

to the fish party.

Steve:

Yes.

Leif:

Amalia.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

And then I think the other two ones are actually twins.

Steve:

Oh, interesting.

Leif:

We'll see if we get. We get names for them.

Leif:

And then, to no one's surprise, we find out

Leif:

Chuck paid the photographer to take pictures of Blair because

Leif:

even Dumbo needed the feather.

Steve:

Yeah. Called it.

Leif:

Yeah. Ursula is saying goodbye to

Leif:

Serena before returning to la. But Ursula also

Leif:

lets Serena know that she got Serena her job back.

Steve:

She said, you helped me find myself. You.

Steve:

You found yourself by not throwing a

Steve:

fit in front of people like you.

Leif:

You realized you were an adult person.

Steve:

Yes. Good job.

Leif:

Well done. Serena is the

Leif:

diva whisperer.

Steve:

She is the diva whisperer and has her

Steve:

job back. Apparently so.

Leif:

So she has something to do in the city. She's not just gallivanting around.

Steve:

Yeah. Does that mean Casey is going to be a

Steve:

more regular star

Steve:

of the show? Is she going to be at least a.

Leif:

probably. Some of these characters probably need a publicist.

Steve:

Yeah. Oh, boy. Oh, Blair.

Steve:

Oh, God.

Leif:

Vanessa calls Scott because she clearly misses him,

Leif:

but he seems over it and then blows her off to take a call

Leif:

from Georgina. It seems like sky has been hanging

Leif:

out with her in Boston.

Steve:

Fantastic.

Leif:

I've been asking. You're such a loser.

Steve:

Yeah. Vanessa. Vanessa, you got dumped for

Steve:

Georgina and you're still pining over

Steve:

a guy who. Whose secret you should tell

Steve:

at this point because he's a big fucking

Steve:

asshole. Although how. What does that do to Rufus if

Steve:

you do tell him? If you do go to Rufus and Lily and

Steve:

like, hey, that is your son. He

Steve:

lied to you.

Leif:

Well, Lily doesn't know.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

even that he came back at all.

Steve:

And I've seen the episode title for the next

Steve:

episode, so wonder how that's

Steve:

going to blow up.

Steve:

Somebody's getting married.

Leif:

Dan is sitting alone in a coffee shop, hoping to see

Leif:

Olivia again. The

Leif:

girl with the hat. Some other blonde

Leif:

hipster.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Jenny is back at Constance and is once

Leif:

again approached by the new minions. They are

Leif:

clearly desperate for leadership. Jenny reluctantly

Leif:

takes up the crown and begins ordering her new

Leif:

kingdom. Yeah, Dark Jenny's

Leif:

coming back.

Steve:

Yeah. Dark Jenny orders a yogurt

Steve:

and hold my place. The Met steps.

Steve:

I even saying like, hold my place in the Met steps. It's like, okay,

Steve:

I need to maintain order. Get me a yogurt.

Steve:

Now that's a power move.

Leif:

It looks like Blair is starting her new kingdom at

Leif:

nyu.

Steve:

Yeah, she sure is.

Leif:

And then finally, the Episode ends with Olivia

Leif:

finding Dan, and it looks like they're gonna be

Leif:

starting something.

Steve:

They obviously had to get together. They're too

Steve:

cute not to. They had. They had good

Steve:

chemistry the whole time, and

Steve:

I think it'll be nice to have them.

Steve:

I. I'm hoping we. We have

Steve:

Hillary Duff for a little while now,

Steve:

I'm assuming. At least for a few episodes,

Steve:

for. For a little love arc with Dan.

Steve:

That's cool. Which also gives Casey

Steve:

reason to be around as well.

Steve:

So who's she gonna bang, Nate? Or is this.

Steve:

Or is she going to be? What drives Blair and Chuck

Steve:

apart when Blair needs a,

Steve:

publicist and Chuck M.

Steve:

There's something that could be there.

Leif:

But, yeah, we end the episode. So the last several

Leif:

scenes were all overlaid with the Gossip Girl blast as

Leif:

normal. And it goes.

Leif:

If you ask me, we go to the movies because we

Leif:

want to see fairy tales. A sleeping

Leif:

queen woken by her true love's kiss.

Leif:

A princess to put aside her jewels to make her way in the

Leif:

world. Lovers torn apart, being brought

Leif:

back together. But life is an eighth fairy tale,

Leif:

and happy endings are few and far between.

Leif:

In life, the young queen becomes a tyrant and

Leif:

takes her subjects to war. So that's why we need

Leif:

movies and that sometimes even

Leif:

fairy tales can come true.

Leif:

Xoxo. Gossip Girl.

Steve:

Yeah, it ends on another sort of

Steve:

uplifting upbeat, which also

Steve:

typically means there's going to be some shit on the

Steve:

horizon.

Leif:

So the previous cliffhangers from last

Leif:

episode were Scott and Georgina, which we

Leif:

got at least a little bit of movement on that one.

Leif:

But the other one was Carter and Brie, and they were, like, not even

Leif:

mentioned at all this episode.

Steve:

No, we. We had Nate and

Steve:

Serena, but neither of their

Steve:

others. And Brie. Ah. Just not

Steve:

even. Not even a conversation with Dan and Nate,

Steve:

which is a little interesting.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

But, what's coming next?

Steve:

Well, first of all, somebody's getting married. I do know

Steve:

that just from the title of the next episode,

Steve:

I'm assuming this

Steve:

Dan Olivia relationship will

Steve:

have a nice little arc until

Steve:

someone else throws their hat in the

Steve:

ring and things get messy. I'm

Steve:

thinking Vanessa is going to.

Steve:

I'm predicting Vanessa takes a trip

Steve:

to Scott and

Steve:

Georgina and finds them, and

Steve:

it'll be a whole storyline that nobody

Steve:

needs.

Leif:

that's about right.

Steve:

Yeah. I have a

Steve:

feeling that hopefully, we'll get something of

Steve:

the Carter Bree drama.

Steve:

And I say hopefully very lightly. I don't give a shit.

Steve:

I would actually really like for that to never be addressed

Steve:

again and for us to just Go on knowing,

Steve:

hey, they have a history and let's just never worry about

Steve:

them again. It'd be kind of funny if they really did just

Steve:

ignore that whole thing and never came back to

Steve:

it and we never see Carter or Brie again.

Leif:

Sebastian, Stan got fired.

Steve:

Yeah, I know. He does. Eventually. So is

Steve:

this. Was it here or was it later?

Steve:

I'm assuming it's later, but it would

Steve:

be great if it was just. Nah.

Steve:

And because. Because that's stupid.

Steve:

Because having drama between two side

Steve:

characters is stupid. Yeah,

Steve:

I can't think of.

Steve:

There's going to be drama with Scott,

Steve:

with Lily finding out about Scott sometime, I'm

Steve:

assuming right before or after the wedding.

Steve:

So there's going to be that conversation.

Steve:

I'm. Chuck and Blair are still

Steve:

going strong. Stronger than I anticipated.

Steve:

And I almost thought Chuck was going to dump

Steve:

Blair for not being cool when. During that. Which

Steve:

maybe that's why I liked it when

Steve:

you said you didn't. I thought it was creepy. I didn't like

Steve:

it. I would hate it if someone said that to my daughter. I thought it made

Steve:

sense for Blair and Chuck because of

Steve:

how their dynamic is.

Leif:

It makes sense.

Steve:

Creepy.

Leif:

I still don't like it.

Steve:

But I actually didn't know where he was going with that at first. And I think

Steve:

the part of why I liked it is because he ended up being like, just

Steve:

remember that I love you and you're with

Steve:

me. So it was like, okay, they're staying together, so

Steve:

he still loves her. I almost thought he was going to break up with her

Steve:

right then and there and then.

Steve:

So they're still going strong. And I feel like

Steve:

they. That is not being

Steve:

threatened. I'm constantly waiting for that to

Steve:

be threatened. And it keeps not really

Steve:

being threatened.

Leif:

Could they be the new Monica and Chandler?

Steve:

They could be. They could be.

Leif:

And they're just together for the whole series.

Steve:

She hasn't banged Dan yet. And I just

Steve:

know at some point she's got to bang

Steve:

Dan.

Leif:

I mean, does it everyone.

Steve:

Yeah, everyone has to bang Dan.

Steve:

Like, look at him.

Steve:

Especially, you know, easy a glow up

Steve:

Dan. Like, come on.

Leif:

Which I actually just did rewatch this week.

Leif:

Such a good movie.

Steve:

Oh, yeah, it's fun.

Leif:

What, about Jenny.

Steve:

Yeah, Jenny is going to

Steve:

take it too far. I feel

Steve:

like Jenny is going to crescendo and then crash and

Steve:

burn. I do know that at some point, I believe this

Steve:

season that she makes her exit. It's either this

Steve:

season or next season. And I'm just assuming

Steve:

that she takes this too far

Steve:

until she just crashes And Burns.

Leif:

Does Eric get drawn into it?

Steve:

Eric is the voice of reason. Eric.

Steve:

I actually. I would sooner see her turning

Steve:

her back on Eric to gain her

Steve:

own power. She's done it before. I could see it

Steve:

getting to her head. And if Eric doesn't agree with her, I could see

Steve:

her turning on him. And I could see Eric being the one to bring

Steve:

her down out of love

Steve:

and out of just Eric being

Steve:

the voice of reason at all times. Eric

Steve:

being the one and only fucking

Steve:

grown up on this show.

Steve:

Eleanor, sometimes.

Leif:

Any other predictions?

Steve:

I don't think so. Oh, Serena

Steve:

still having a job is interesting.

Steve:

I. Serena, if she's still with

Steve:

Carter, I could see Serena

Steve:

publicizing someone new

Steve:

who makes things awkward.

Steve:

So Serena being a publicist is

Steve:

going to, play into some drama at some point, I'm

Steve:

sure.

Leif:

All right, well, let's go ahead and get into some

Leif:

segments. This week in Fandom,

Leif:

we hopped into the Wayback Machine to travel to the

Leif:

Television without pity forums from 2009.

Leif:

Hello there, Peabody here. And this

Leif:

is the Wayback Machine for traveling through time.

Steve:

And this is my boy, Sherman. Speak,

Steve:

Sherman. Hello.

Leif:

Good boy. Overall,

Leif:

kind of a meh episode. Good comedy.

Leif:

The Blair, Chuck and Jenny plot was good,

Leif:

but, overall it was not that great. Yeah,

Leif:

too much stunt casting and too many guest stars in general.

Steve:

Yeah, it was just hardly any

Steve:

cast. Every scene. I feel

Steve:

almost every scene had a guest

Steve:

star in it except for

Steve:

Jenny. It was anything that didn't have Jenny or the Lily

Steve:

Rufus stuff, but anything that had any of the

Steve:

others. And.

Leif:

Yeah. So, this is a common problem with teen

Leif:

shows. Once they get out of high

Leif:

school, the stories become too disconnected.

Steve:

Yeah. Saved by the Bell. The college years

Steve:

absolutely could not keep up with Saved

Steve:

by the Bell.

Leif:

They probably started the show with the main characters. They

Leif:

should have started the show. The characters as softwares

Leif:

to get another year of high school stories.

Steve:

Makes sense. I'm assuming that the book did. The book. Are the

Steve:

books all high school? Because you could do that in

Steve:

books.

Leif:

Yeah, I think it is. Yeah. I believe so. And

Leif:

then they spin off to Jenny going to boarding

Leif:

school. Most people dislike

Leif:

Blair being so pathetic.

Steve:

Because it was really pathetic. It really

Steve:

was. It was a rock bottom for

Steve:

Blair. I honestly,

Steve:

I found this to be more cringy

Steve:

that, it was more cringe than

Steve:

her banging two dudes

Steve:

that were best friends

Steve:

back to back.

Leif:

There's some anticipation for a potential

Leif:

Jenny and Eric feud.

Steve:

I could see it. I can see it.

Leif:

There were a bunch of people making fun of Serena's idea of

Leif:

work attire. And this was their words,

Leif:

not mine. Is just putting a jacket over a slutty

Leif:

dress.

Steve:

Interview interview clothes.

Steve:

Surprised she didn't have, like, a tie

Steve:

just around her neck, but, yeah,

Leif:

Serena does that all the time.

Steve:

Yeah. I'm going to

Steve:

wear these pajamas with a coat.

Leif:

Most fans thought Chuck and Blair were adorable, but if

Leif:

you saw the same cracks I did.

Steve:

Yeah, yeah.

Leif:

Jenny's minions look like, quote,

Leif:

rejects from a Disney Channel TV show.

Steve:

Probably Nickelodeon, because I'm starting to see

Steve:

a, lot of a, commonality in this episode.

Steve:

All these Nickelodeon stars this week,

Steve:

and.

Leif:

The fans are still convinced that Ed is the best actor on the show

Leif:

for some reason.

Steve:

Really? Wait,

Steve:

really? He's. He's not the best

Steve:

actor in any scene he's ever been in.

Steve:

He's.

Leif:

Remember, like, last. Last year, they were talking about how, like, his

Leif:

scenes were, like, going to a prestige television or

Leif:

something?

Steve:

Yeah, no, not at all.

Steve:

He. He carries his role,

Steve:

but he can't emote,

Steve:

vocally without going full

Steve:

Brit. Yeah.

Leif:

And then finally, Lily and Rufus can't be good

Leif:

parents at the same time. They keep flip flopping.

Steve:

Yes.

Leif:

Facts, facts.

Leif:

That is it for this week in Phantom, So let's

Leif:

get into some episode grades. You went first

Leif:

last time, so I will go first.

Leif:

there's some great comedy moments with Nate and Dan as well as the

Leif:

Rufus and Serena stuff, but

Leif:

the writing was a bit too contrived for

Leif:

me. They're trying some new things with the Gossip

Leif:

Girl blast in different spots, but

Leif:

overall, I gave it a B minus.

Steve:

I landed at the same place as you,

Steve:

for largely the same reason. And much

Steve:

like last week, it didn't really go

Steve:

anywhere other than Dan

Steve:

having a potential new relationship. There was

Steve:

no real plot

Steve:

foundation to move into the

Steve:

next episode, especially with, like, that little

Steve:

bit of momentum. The last episode

Steve:

really didn't do much except for these

Steve:

cliffhangers at the end that ended up not

Steve:

mattering in this episode. So it once again

Steve:

just felt kind of standalone. It

Steve:

was. Had its moments that I liked. It wasn't a

Steve:

terrible episode. It was still enjoyable

Steve:

to watch, and I landed at a B minus as well.

Leif:

Moving on over to Stockwatch

Leif:

for me, going up, I had Jenny

Leif:

because she is taking the reins of the school.

Leif:

Chuck, because she. You basically

Leif:

manipulated Blair and got her to see some confidence.

Leif:

Finally, Dan, because he continues to

Leif:

fail upward,

Leif:

taking advantage of that white privilege. I

Leif:

gave Olivia, you know, up because she's, you know, she

Leif:

had her big premiere and, you know, she's got Dan now the king

Leif:

of nyu. And I gave Rufus an up because

Leif:

he was funny and he was making some sense for

Leif:

once.

Steve:

Who do you got? I have mostly the same as you. I

Steve:

had Dan and Olivia both going up

Steve:

for their relationship, getting

Steve:

together and going somewhere. I had Serena

Steve:

going up for getting her job back and

Steve:

actually having a job and

Steve:

coming through for Ursula. And in

Steve:

the end, I had Jenny going up

Steve:

for the most obvious of all

Steve:

of them. She is queen. So I have her

Steve:

going up in her stock. I have

Steve:

Rufus going up as well. The other one I have

Steve:

going up and I, is

Steve:

Vanessa. And the reason is

Steve:

good wingman. Good wingman job. You

Steve:

have a new friend who's a movie,

Steve:

star who wants to just be your friend. And you

Steve:

are a really good wingman to Dan. And I give her

Steve:

an up for that.

Leif:

But she did get blown off by Scott.

Steve:

Yeah, but fuck Scott.

Leif:

Speaking of which, he makes a place on my downs

Leif:

because he is being manipulated by

Leif:

Georgina. Yeah, being played by Georgina and just being dull as

Leif:

usual. Yeah. I also had Lily because she was

Leif:

horrible. She's taking her cues from Cece

Leif:

now. we got Ursula because, you know, her

Leif:

career is. Her scene got cut. And

Leif:

Casey because she's a two dimensional villain.

Leif:

I had Vanessa going down because she got blown off by

Leif:

Scott. I had the new minions going

Leif:

down because they got bulldoze this whole

Leif:

episode. And also the NYC minions because,

Leif:

well, you're being ruled by a loser.

Steve:

Did you mention Blair?

Leif:

And Blair and Blair.

Steve:

Okay, because I was going to say I have. My list

Steve:

is exactly 100% the

Steve:

same as yours. Ursula, Casey,

Steve:

Lily, Blair, both sets of

Steve:

minions. I actually didn't have the New York minions, but

Steve:

I want to add the New York minions because,

Steve:

yes, they're being ruled by a loser

Steve:

and.

Leif:

Yeah, what about Scott?

Steve:

Oh, and Scott. Scott going down for being played

Steve:

by Georgina, which I originally didn't

Steve:

put Scott, but having mentioned

Steve:

it, he's completely getting played by

Steve:

Georgina. He absolutely is getting his

Steve:

stock down. Also, just Scott sucks. Like, can

Steve:

we. God, that I wish

Steve:

he would have just told Rufus the truth. Rufus, the truth.

Steve:

And left

Steve:

and been done.

Leif:

It would have been even better if he's like, oh, you're my

Leif:

son. Great.

Steve:

Oh,

Steve:

look, I gotta get out of here.

Steve:

Looks at his watch, pats

Steve:

his shoulder. See ya, bud.

Leif:

Got my real son here. The king of nyu.

Steve:

I've already got one. He's way cooler. He

Steve:

doesn't have to lie about where he goes to school or stalk

Steve:

people with letters.

Leif:

So that is it for Stockwatch. Let's go ahead and

Leif:

get into the best outfit, but

Leif:

here's the best outfits.

Steve:

From the last episode we've

Steve:

seen.

Leif:

For me. Gothic Barbie. The gold

Leif:

and black bandage dress from Emilia Pucci. The

Leif:

silver ankle boots, the diamond cross paired with the classic

Leif:

pearls. Even the hair and the makeup worked for me. She looked

Leif:

like a character from a Tim Burton movie.

Steve:

Yep. I have the same. I have the

Steve:

same thing she. That premiere dress

Steve:

was just. It

Steve:

popped. And the whole look, the whole look, the

Steve:

whole look. And like you mentioned last week, and I didn't

Steve:

notice it until this week, that the outfits

Steve:

haven't been as eye

Steve:

popping as they were. And this one

Steve:

just jumped off this, jumped off

Steve:

the screen. And you, you have that.

Steve:

I like to have that head cannon that. She made it.

Steve:

You know that even though we know that it was

Steve:

a, design dress, my headcanon is.

Steve:

Anything Jenny wears, Jenny made.

Leif:

I don't know if that's true anymore. She's living on the

Leif:

Upper east side now. She's. She's moved to a deluxe penthouse in the

Leif:

sky.

Steve:

That's right. She doesn't have to make her own stuff

Steve:

anymore. She can. Yeah.

Steve:

And that's disappointing because. Because

Steve:

Rupus killed her dreams.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

Way to go, Rufus. Now she could have had

Steve:

the resources to do all of the shit that she wanted

Steve:

to do. Great job. Good parenting. Fuck you,

Steve:

Rufus.

Leif:

That is it for segments. What are you

Leif:

plugging this week?

Steve:

I have been. First of all, I've been really

Steve:

into Severance on

Steve:

Apple tv. Great show. You should

Steve:

definitely check that out if you're. If you haven't seen

Steve:

it yet. Have you seen Severance?

Leif:

Not yet.

Steve:

It is cool. The acting in

Steve:

it is really dynamic because

Steve:

they kind of have to be. A lot of the

Steve:

actors have to play two characters. Two versions

Steve:

of themselves essentially. So it's really

Steve:

well written, really good acting. I

Steve:

highly recommend it.

Leif:

For me, I have been rewatching the hundred.

Leif:

So go watch that. Kind of a cross between

Leif:

Gossip Girl, Game of Thrones and Battlestar

Leif:

Galactica. I love it. I mean,

Leif:

it's got the bad CW acting, but I still love it.

Steve:

Spotted Cylons.

Leif:

Yes. but if you

Leif:

want to follow me on social media, you can find me on Blue

Leif:

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Leif:

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Leif:

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Leif:

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Leif:

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Leif:

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job next week.

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And speaking of next week, we will be talking

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about season three, episode five,

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Rufus Getting Married. The

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Max episode description reads, will Lily

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and Rufus get married?

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See, I didn't read the description. I only saw the, Which is

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really funny that it's called Rufus getting married. And then they say,

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will they get married? Which

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kind of makes it even more Rufus is. But is

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it Delilah?

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Well, I haven't seen Rachel getting married,

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but doesn't she not get married at the end of that movie?

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I couldn't tell you. I didn't. I haven't seen it either,

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so.

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Well, until next time. You know you love us.

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XOXO Every time you walk away,

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run.

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Away you take a piece of m me with you

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Every time you walk away or run away you take a

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piece of me with you there

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Every time you walk away or run away you take a

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piece of me with you there

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oh it seems I'm walking right to

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your door.

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My heart still.

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Resting m looking for something more.

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Are.

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You ever gonna see everything you mean to me I'm

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trying really hard to believe

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Every time you walk away or run away you take a

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piece of me with you there

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Every time you walk away or run away you take a

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piece of me with you there

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Every time you walk away or run away you take a

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piece of me with you there

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Never feels right when I'm out here on

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my own

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I left last night and it feels like

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way too long

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are you ever gonna see everything you mean

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to me I'm trying really hard to believe

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Every time you walk away run away you take a

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piece of meat with you there

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Every time you walk away or run away you take a

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piece of me with you there

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Every time you walk away or run away you take a

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piece of m me with you there

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Come back to me

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smile and you'll make my life

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complete?

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Every time you walk away or run away you take a

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piece of me with you there?

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Every time you walk away or run away you take a

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piece of me with you there?

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Every time you walk away or run away you take a

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piece of me with you there?

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Every time you walk away or run away you take a

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piece of me with you there?

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Every time you walk away or run away you take a

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piece of me you with you there

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Ah? Every time you walk away

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and run away you take a piece of me with

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you there? Every time you

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walk away or run away you take a piece of me

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with you there? Every

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time you walk away or run away you take a piece of

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me.

Leif:

With you there.

Steve:

I saw a clip of Taylor Tomlinson, the

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comedian, on her show, some kind

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of late night show. She was like, oh, I can't wait to hear

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what Vulture has to say about this one. I was

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like, oh, I didn't realize they were

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still a thing.

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