Episode 5
Gossip Girl S2E5 - The Serena Also Rises
Summary
In this conversation, the hosts discuss an episode of Gossip Girl and share their thoughts and opinions on various aspects of the show. They talk about the characters, the plot, and the writing. They also touch on other topics such as streaming services and the works of Ernest Hemingway. The conversation is filled with humor and banter between the hosts. In this part of the conversation, the hosts discuss various subtopics and themes from the episode. They touch on Rufus' obsession with Lily, Jenny's success in the fashion industry, Serena and Blair's complicated friendship, Chuck's betrayal by Dan, and the mystery surrounding Lily's secret. They also analyze the character development and dynamics between the main characters. Overall, they praise the writing, directing, and acting in the episode.
Keywords
Gossip Girl, episode review, characters, plot, writing, streaming services, Ernest Hemingway, Rufus, Lily, Jenny, Serena, Blair, Chuck, Dan, fashion industry, friendship, betrayal, mystery, character development, writing, directing, acting
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Initial Impressions
07:04 Discussion of the Episode's Plot
17:46 Exploring the Characters and Their Relationships
24:29 Analysis of the Writing and Themes
29:09 Fashion Week and Drama
32:56 Chuck's Backstory and Emotional Moments
35:39 Surprising Revelations and Conclusion
37:02 Rufus' Creepy Obsession and Jenny's Success
45:06 Serena and Blair's Complicated Friendship and Transformation
52:16 Praise for the Writing, Directing, and Acting
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Edited and mixed by Leif Capicola.
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Transcript
You said he looked like Fred from Scooby doo the other episode.
Leif:uh-huh
Leif:Now he really looked like he
Leif:did.
Leif:He had like, full ascot.
Leif:Hey, upper east siders and all you scandal loving listeners out
Leif:there, you just tuned into the non judging breakfast
Leif:five, where the coffee is strong, the waffles
Leif:are fresh, and the gossip is hotter than ever.
Leif:My name is Leif, and I'm your seasoned gossip girl
Leif:veteran.
Leif:And I'm Steve, your newbie, your greenhorn,
Leif:your, I don't know, Leif. What's the
Leif:season two newbie called in Gossip
Leif:girl terms?
Leif:I don't know. I think it's time to see what you're made of. You're either in for
Leif:the full ride or not in at all.
Leif:All right, well, then sit me in the second row with all
Leif:the other girls and, let's go ahead and get started.
Leif:Sounds good.
Leif:So here's the deal, folks. Leap has been watching
Leif:gossip girls since it first aired, and I'm tuning in
Leif:for the first time. And together, we're your
Leif:dynamic duo, bringing you all the drama,
Leif:romance, and sometimes questionable fashion
Leif:choices of this iconic 2007
Leif:series.
Leif:That's right. Each week we're going to be taking a deep dive
Leif:into the show, one episode at a time. We're going to go
Leif:through all the hidden parallels, obscure
Leif:references, and of course, the guator catastrophes.
Leif:We're also going to look at some behind the scenes gossip and
Leif:stories from fandom along the way.
Leif:And since we're all about inclusivity here at the
Leif:non judging breakfast pod, there is room for you at
Leif:the non judging breakfast table. So go ahead and
Leif:grab your mimosa, some coffee,
Leif:and maybe some of nate and Chuck's special medicine, and
Leif:let's go ahead and get this started.
Leif:Yeah. I don't know about you, but I've been watching our
Leif:favorite stoner, on the new season of the boys.
Leif:You know, I actually am about to start that. I
Leif:started the acolyte instead,
Leif:which I. Which I really
Leif:liked for a little
Leif:bit. And then, well,
Leif:there was.
Leif:If you ever wanted to see Chase Crawford sing,
Leif:you can watch season four, episode four.
Leif:Awesome. I am, a little Joe
Leif:cocker.
Leif:Up where we belong.
Leif:Nice. And I am caught up now, so I'm
Leif:going to. When I get back from Alabama, that's going to
Leif:be the first thing I watch. Is it all. Is
Leif:it already all out or is it.
Leif:They released three episodes last week, and, now they're going
Leif:one episode at a time.
Leif:Okay, all streaming services, can we have
Leif:a talk for 1 second. All streaming
Leif:services why are you taking us back
Leif:in time? Please stop. Please let us
Leif:binge our shows now.
Leif:I actually like it because you get to have
Leif:the water cooler moments.
Leif:I get that. But there's so. But I
Leif:don't have a water cooler.
Leif:Get a job. Steve,
Leif:a, little bit of sad news. Donald Sutherland passed
Leif:away.
Leif:Yeah, very sad. I heard about that today.
Leif:88.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah. I always think
Leif:of his scenes in, animal
Leif:house and the scene where they're all
Leif:getting high and they talk about being, an atom on a park
Leif:bench because that's actually one of those things
Leif:that fucking blew my mind watching that
Leif:high in college and having the thought
Leif:of, like, wait, what? And like.
Leif:Yeah. For me, the real
Leif:memorable role for me is the,
Leif:original watcher for Buffy.
Leif:Oh, correct. Yeah. In the
Leif:first. In the Buffy movie. Yeah.
Leif:Oh, yeah, I remember that.
Leif:But today we are talking about Gossip
Leif:Girl, season two, episode five, the
Leif:Serena also rises.
Leif:Yeah. Yes, I recognize the
Leif:title. I don't know that I've even read it.
Leif:I hate Hemingway.
Leif:Yeah. I have not read it.
Leif:I hated Hemingway
Leif:since, you know, in high school, and I was supposed to read old man
Leif:in the sea. I didn't finish it because it was boring. And
Leif:then I started reading some of his stuff. And I'll say he
Leif:is a brilliant writer. He's
Leif:fantastic. But he. But I.
Leif:He's such a grumpy old man, and he
Leif:just always brings me down. I had to read hills, like,
Leif:well, it weighed elephants, like, three times. And
Leif:it's just so fucking depressing and he's just
Leif:such a morose outlook on life.
Leif:Wikipedia had this to say about it. The sun also
Leif:rises is the first novel by american writer Ernest
Leif:Hemingway. It portrays american and british
Leif:expatriates who travel along the Camino de
Leif:Santiago from Paris to
Leif:Festival of San Fermine in Papollona
Leif:to watch the running of the bulls and bullfights.
Leif:An early modernist novel, it received mixed reviews
Leif:upon publication. Hemingways biographer
Leif:Geoffrey Myers writes that it is now
Leif:recognized as Hemingways greatest work, and Hemingway
Leif:scholar Linda Wagner Martin calls it
Leif:his most important novel. The novel
Leif:was published in the United States in October
Leif:1926 by
Leif:Scribners. a year later, Jonathan
Leif:Keith published the novel in London under the
Leif:title Fiesta. It remains
Leif:a print. Yeah, I never read it.
Leif:Yeah. I have not read it. And like I said, I really
Leif:don't care to. I never read a farewell
Leif:to arms. I've read. I've read short
Leif:stories. And again, it's not about the
Leif:writing. He's a brilliant writer. He's
Leif:got a brilliant command of his technique,
Leif:but it's just. Everything is just so
Leif:nihilistic and
Leif:depressing and
Leif:grumpy.
Leif:So this episode originally aired on September
Leif:22, 2008, and the gossip Girl
Leif:Wiki episode description reads,
Leif:in the midst of fashion Week, a furious
Leif:Blair learns that her mother, Eleanor, at
Leif:the suggestion of her protege Jenny, has given
Leif:Serena and her new socialite friend poppy
Leif:lipton front row seats to Eleanor
Leif:Woolner's show. Hurt once again by
Leif:Serena's popularity at her mother's portrayal,
Leif:Blair decides to sabotage the show.
Leif:Meanwhile, Dan starts to hang out with Chuck.
Leif:But a walk on the dark side always has its wrist.
Leif:And Dan learns that the hard way. Lily learns
Leif:a secret that her new husband, Bart, has been
Leif:keeping from her.
Leif:There's stuff in this episode I love, and there's stuff in this
Leif:episode I hate.
Leif:Really. I love this episode.
Leif:There's. There's just parts of it that I don't like. I
Leif:miss old Blair
Leif:and. But other than that. But,
Leif:like, the Lily shit is so.
Leif:Fucking good episode
Leif:written by Jessica Queller. she's back.
Leif:She had three pre strike episodes. The
Leif:Handmaiden's tale, Blair ward off from his
Leif:pie and roman holiday.
Leif:So the two holiday episodes, both really
Leif:good. Really good episodes.
Leif:And the other one is
Leif:Handmaiden's tale. You gave a b. you gave a b minus. I gave
Leif:a b.
Leif:Right. And that was the, masquerade.
Leif:Yes.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:And then it was directed by Patrick R. Naris.
Leif:Also did two three strike episodes. Bad news Blair
Leif:the fourth episode, and I society,
Leif:the 10th episode.
Leif:Yeah, I kind of liked high society. Yeah, I liked
Leif:both.
Leif:Gave I society.
Leif:Yeah, high society. that was the first one was CC. I really liked that.
Leif:Yeah, you gave. You gave bad news player b minus. I gave it a b
Leif:plus.
Leif:Yeah, I remember
Leif:having mixed feelings about that one.
Leif:Which is the photo shoot episode.
Leif:Yeah, it's their first. It's the first Serena and Blair being
Leif:friends again episode, which. That has
Leif:now lasted a
Leif:season. Right. Because that
Leif:was. That was episode four. And now this
Leif:is episode five.
Leif:Yeah, they had some mini breakups in
Leif:between, like, in episode 13 there.
Leif:Well, they. Everything that has
Leif:happened between them so far has
Leif:resolved within the episode. It happened.
Leif:Right. Like, the big one being, you
Leif:know, the. Especially the Thanksgiving episode
Leif:where, you know, they get into the big fight,
Leif:but then Blair calls Serena when she
Leif:relapses and needs Serena there. And Serena drops
Leif:every.
Leif:I think. I, think 13 was their biggest fight because that's
Leif:why Blair's almost going to leave.
Leif:Yeah. And Serena goes to stop her
Leif:because.
Leif:She thought she had lost Serena too.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:But at the last minute, Serena comes and stops her.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:So we get into the episode
Leif:when the white tents blossom in Bryant park. It can
Leif:only mean one thing.
Leif:Fashion week.
Leif:The time of year when any park Avenue princess would
Leif:trade her last Prada Pochette for front row seats to
Leif:the best shows. And we hear the seating trial for
Leif:Eleanor Waldo's show is being made by our
Leif:very own bee in Gus
Leif:Girl monologues as we see Blair arranging the cd chair
Leif:for Eleanor's fashion show.
Leif:Eleanor. I love Margaret
Leif:Collins in every scene she's ever in. And
Leif:her writing in this is just. She's
Leif:like. It's a blessing that she was
Leif:dragged off to rehab when she was
Leif:talking about the. But
Leif:she's so fucking wrong
Leif:and so fucking
Leif:disrespectful. But, like, that,
Leif:she is just like, fuck it. I don't have any time
Leif:for anything that isn't my show.
Leif:Like, She just makes that clear from the
Leif:start that Eleanor is taking
Leif:no shit right now.
Leif:Yeah. Dan and Jenny are walking
Leif:to school, and apparently Dan has switched his college of choice
Leif:from Dartmouth to Yale. Looks like Jenny is teaching school
Leif:altogether.
Leif:Yeah, this was a neat, You know, you always have
Leif:those great Dan and Jenny scenes. And then this
Leif:one specifically. Ah, they pour a lot
Leif:of exposition into it too. they give you a lot of
Leif:that info, you know, that Dan is fine with
Leif:being ostracized, but it is still
Leif:happening, and he seems mostly fine with it.
Leif:There seems to be maybe a twinge of.
Leif:You know, the sarcasm says that maybe there's a twinge of her
Leif:there, but there's also this great. You
Leif:learn, like you said, jenny's not going to school. You learn that
Leif:Dan is switching his ideas of where
Leif:he wants to go to college because of the
Leif:shift in the
Leif:writing teachers and stuff, so.
Leif:Yeah, yeah. Poached the writing staff
Leif:from Dartmouth.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:Lily is reviewing her art collection with becks.
Leif:Serena has been out partying with a
Leif:socialite populiptin. We also learned
Leif:that lily posed for Maple Thorpe.
Leif:Fucking becks. Are we still doing this? Are we
Leif:still bringing becks around?
Leif:I mean. I mean, I know she's our art dealer.
Leif:I actually kind of like that. That's like, it's
Leif:better than just bringing, like, some random person in.
Leif:It really is. You know, it is good continuity. It's.
Leif:And there were no interactions with Rufus. It
Leif:was. My worry was like, I think I'm a yemenite do something.
Leif:But you're right. It makes a lot of sense for becks to be in this
Leif:scene.
Leif:Chuck is offering to help Blair, regain her
Leif:throne. Blair turns him down. However, the minions
Leif:are much more impressed with Serena hanging out with poppy than
Leif:the tickets to Eleanor show. Blair and truck
Leif:jade trade a few more barbs before Blair
Leif:storms out of the courtyard.
Leif:Well, you can kind of see that Chuck is starting to make his
Leif:play. You know, he's starting to try to
Leif:actively pull his strings a little more.
Leif:King Blair.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah. The other thing, I mean, these
Leif:girls, they are fangirls, you know? And
Leif:Serena says something later that describes them even
Leif:better. When. When she says they're gonna flock
Leif:from one to another, but they are just kind of
Leif:oohing and ahing over Serena
Leif:when. When Blair starts going in
Leif:on Chuck, and she's like, you are nothing. You're
Leif:like Dan Humphrey, only at least his
Leif:lame nineties dad loves him.
Leif:God damn, does she know how to fucking
Leif:hit him hard.
Leif:And, yeah, as we find out later in the episode, how hard
Leif:that hits.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah. And I feel like Blair
Leif:would know that, too, that Blair would know
Leif:that they all know each other so
Leif:intimately.
Leif:Yeah, I'm sure they all know.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:That story. Dan is meeting with Noah
Leif:Shapiro, who is bored with Dan's writing different
Leif:versions of the same story. Shapiro
Leif:encourages Dan to get outside his comfort
Leif:zone.
Leif:So I'd like to flash back to episode
Leif:two, where Dan said that he's going to turn it into a series. And
Leif:Jenny said, I think you're overestimating
Leif:how much people enjoy your life. And I was
Leif:like, you're right, Jenny.
Leif:I'm gonna stand by that comment
Leif:now.
Leif:But the people around, maybe he could be
Leif:the. What's the, other guy from the guy. The
Leif:pov guy from the great Scott Gatsby.
Leif:Oh, yeah.
Leif:He's fucking boring as shit, but, yeah, he sees
Leif:a lot of crazy stuff going on.
Leif:Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
Leif:I forgot to mention this in the first episode where you had
Leif:that first author.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:My Harris. Which they mentioned.
Leif:Yeah, yeah.
Leif:So that was actually being played by
Leif:Jay McElroy, Riney
Leif:McElroney.
Leif:Okay.
Leif:Who is a. He was, like, sort of a hot shot.
Leif:He's like a lesser Brett. East Dallas.
Leif:His big hit was a bright, big
Leif:city. Bright lights, big city.
Leif:Oh, okay. I have heard that. yeah, I have heard of that.
Leif:But, yeah, so they were. They were very excited to get him.
Leif:Mm
Leif:But then he was not a good
Leif:actor. They kind of wrote
Leif:him out and brought this this guy is, an actual actor.
Leif:Yeah, well, and I didn't really love him
Leif:because I felt like this guy was someone playing
Leif:a writer. Like, I just felt like, you
Leif:know, with the whiskey on the desk, and.
Leif:I feel like that was probably direction.
Leif:I think you're right.
Leif:I feel the guy seemed like he was a competent actor.
Leif:Yeah, I I, feel like he was a competent
Leif:actor who was not given. I I
Leif:didn't. I didn't like the.
Leif:The role, and I didn't like, you know,
Leif:bukowski shot a shot glass off of my
Leif:head.
Leif:Have you never got gossip girls all surface, all
Leif:this, everything? You know, it's not a main character
Leif:stereotype.
Leif:Yeah, you're. You're right. You're right. I need to accept.
Leif:It's like. Yeah, like watching the
Leif:Simpsons.
Leif:Oh, my God. You just kind of ruined and made
Leif:this entire rest of this podcast
Leif:something even better.
Leif:At the atelier, Eleanor needs it girls.
Leif:To bring the press to her shows, jenny suggests
Leif:Serena and her new socialite friends.
Leif:I love how Eleanor rips
Leif:the dress away from one of the other people
Leif:and takes it to Jenny and is like, I need this
Leif:fixed, that now. Jenny is the
Leif:Eleanor go to fix it person.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:That was fantastic.
Leif:Yeah. That is just. Yeah. That is a very little thing, but I
Leif:think. Yeah, that's very important.
Leif:Yeah. I thought it spoke volumes, especially for the rest
Leif:of the show and how she trusts Jenny's
Leif:judgment over and over again.
Leif:Yeah. And Jenny is talented. That.
Leif:That's, I think, the key takeaway there.
Leif:Yes. They really want us to believe that
Leif:Jenny is very talented and that
Leif:that dress that she made is
Leif:great. Robin liked
Leif:it. We'll get there.
Leif:I mean, it's not like an everyday dress, but I liked it.
Leif:It was kits couture.
Leif:It's not. It's not to be worn out.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:It's to go to the met ball.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah. It was
Leif:very boofy.
Leif:It's my note.
Leif:Dan shows up at the penthouse because he wants
Leif:Chuck to take him outside of his comfort zone.
Leif:blair's barb earlier clearly got under Chuck's
Leif:skin because he agrees to take down
Leif:out with him when
Leif:he's like.
Leif:Yeah, I know you think that I'm blah blah, blah. I don't think of you
Leif:like Chuck. I fucking love Chuck. In this
Leif:scene. When are you gay? Yeah.
Leif:Now in this scene. And then also the later scene
Leif:when Dan punches the guy. I
Leif:thought Chuck seemed a little excited.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:I don't know if that was ed writing or
Leif:the. Or the direction, but. Or
Leif:combination.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:But I read it as, like, he was turned
Leif:on, especially after the
Leif:punch.
Leif:Yeah, yeah, I didn't really read into
Leif:that. I didn't. I wasn't. But, like, I could
Leif:totally see that, though, too. And that.
Leif:I mean, that could be just, like, reminiscent of the book Chuck, who
Leif:is bisexual.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah, that's fair.
Leif:Blair is whinging to Dorota about
Leif:Serena stealing her minions, and, Blair, already
Leif:spiraling, discovers that Jenny changed her
Leif:seating chart.
Leif:Oh, little j. You're stuck on the tracks, and the b
Leif:train is coming through town.
Leif:Yeah. And this is where I felt like I missed season
Leif:one. Blair, that I. That like her
Leif:on the fact that she does all of
Leif:this, that. That she gets so
Leif:unhinged on her mom.
Leif:Like. Like that the. That the person who is
Leif:very careful not to throw Eric under the
Leif:bus ever is now willing to
Leif:fuck her mom over to fuck over
Leif:Jenny. That didn't sit right with me.
Leif:I mean, I think she was kind of like this a little
Leif:bit, like, especially, like, the thanksgiving episode.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:I feel like Eric is an exception.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:She has a very contentious relationship with her
Leif:mother.
Leif:She does. I just.
Leif:It's almost similar to the relationship to Serena.
Leif:Although I also feel like
Leif:Blaire is, though she's
Leif:constantly fighting with Eleanor, she also is constantly seeking
Leif:her approval, too, and that's why I thought, like,
Leif:your mom was only going to be mad at
Leif:you for anything that goes wrong once it all
Leif:comes out that you're doing. And, like, how can
Leif:you expect to keep any of it a secret? But we'll get to that as we're
Leif:going on.
Leif:I just feel like that. That is kind of Blair.
Leif:Yeah. I feel like it's
Leif:season two. Blair is whinier and
Leif:unravels easier and quicker. I
Leif:feel like she has. She, comes.
Leif:She was broken already in season one. That's why.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:Now, like, once you're broken that first time, it's much easier to
Leif:break.
Leif:Yeah, I guess I just
Leif:miss. I miss the old blair.
Leif:What would fashion week be without a fashion
Leif:victim? Looks like little J. Started her own
Leif:trend wearing a bullseye on her back.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:And we move it back to.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:Blair is arguing with Eleanor about the changes to
Leif:the seating chart. It looks like Blair has figured out
Leif:Jenny has been skipping class to go work at the
Leif:atelier.
Leif:This is, Oh, I I really liked
Leif:Blair putting this together and, like,
Leif:seeing the wheels turning, and it's
Leif:like we're Jenny because, like,
Leif:she's caught.
Leif:Now at a dimly lit
Leif:bar, a waiter drops a tray full of
Leif:shots in front of Dan and Chuck. Is Chuck going to
Leif:date rate Dan?
Leif:Yeah. Does he actually drug him, do you
Leif:think? Or does he give him a placebo? Because he's. Because
Leif:Dan is like, give me the Chuck bass treatment. So
Leif:Chuck's like, I'm gonna fuck with this guy.
Leif:I just don't. Why would he be carrying around a placebo? Cause he
Leif:does eat one himself.
Leif:Yeah, but it. But it's
Leif:Chuck. Like, I could. Or
Leif:having, like, a tylenol to tell him, like, hey, yeah, take
Leif:this.
Leif:It was just, like, ecstasy.
Leif:I had that. Yeah, it could be. I just kind of
Leif:questioned whether or not he actually
Leif:would waste his drugs on Dan.
Leif:He's a fucking billionaire.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:You see how much food these people. Wait.
Leif:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Leif:Poppy and Serena are having dinner with. With
Leif:lily. Serena is doing the same thing as last week where
Leif:she offers up a little protest to the thing but then
Leif:just caves in because it's what she really wants to do all
Leif:along. Again, not sure if she's even consciously
Leif:aware of this, but it's definitely become a
Leif:staple of the Serena playbook. Lily finds out
Leif:that someone bought her nude photo prior to the
Leif:auction, and.
Leif:You do see that Serena definitely doesn't want to cross
Leif:Blair. And you know that,
Leif:like, you kind of expect this from
Leif:the start, that.
Leif:Like, she said, she totally lets herself be
Leif:talked into it.
Leif:But she does let herself be talked into it. She lets herself be
Leif:talked into the cooler thing.
Leif:She's the queen of plausible deniability.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah, I. Wow. She really
Leif:is. Yeah.
Leif:Blair shows up the loft under the guise of caring
Leif:about Jenny, but it is clearly there for the sole
Leif:purpose of blowing up Jenny's spot.
Leif:One thing I wanted to add about the previous scene I
Leif:called. It was Bart. I mean, yeah, yeah, I
Leif:called it right then, and, yeah, yeah.
Leif:I mean, who else would it be.
Leif:Exactly in that next scene, the one that you
Leif:just read, the skepticism
Leif:on.
Leif:Rufus's face, at least you've learned a little bit.
Leif:Yeah, but then Blair just. Facts are
Leif:facts. She hasn't, been showing up at school.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:And I may not have her best interest, but
Leif:facts are facts.
Leif:Yeah. And I love that.
Leif:I love that Rufus.
Leif:Yeah. I know you don't have my kids interested at heart.
Leif:Yep. Yep. But, yeah, you're
Leif:right.
Leif:Elise, Rufus learned from season one.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah, he really did. Like, yeah, he. That is
Leif:one of those really big things that I loved about
Leif:Rufus in that scene is that he instantly is
Leif:like, you're here for no good.
Leif:We shift back to Dan and Chuck in the
Leif:limo. Dan is clearly trash. Chuck is
Leif:bored and kicks Dan out of the limo with his. Without his
Leif:wallet and shoes. Spotted. Dan
Leif:Humphrey shoeless and clueless. That's
Leif:all.
Leif:How do you know so many twins? Twins
Leif:find me.
Leif:yeah, check.
Leif:I really enjoyed the Dan joke.
Leif:Kicking him out with no shoes. It's like.
Leif:Yeah, I love their interactions.
Leif:Stole his phone. Yeah.
Leif:that's actually one of the reasons why this is one of my favorite
Leif:episodes of the show.
Leif:Yeah, yeah, I loved
Leif:it. They were great together.
Leif:Rufus shows up at the atelier and reads Jenny the
Leif:riot act as Blair watches from the
Leif:shadows with glee.
Leif:Yeah, can't blame rupees on any of
Leif:it. Yeah, yeah. I mean,
Leif:he's. I mean, he's dumping thousands of dollars down
Leif:the drain for her to skip school like
Leif:that. That's fucked.
Leif:But I do fair she is keeping up with all of her silence.
Leif:Yeah, like. Like I get Jenny. Every
Leif:argument Jenny has is also
Leif:Validore Rufus being Rufus
Leif:react. Justified is definitely
Leif:justified, too. I really feel like this is one
Leif:of those parenting things.
Leif:There are whole stuff shows that the relationship
Leif:is already cracked, that she has to hide this
Leif:and.
Leif:Yeah, yeah, you're right.
Leif:They say in fashion you can become sort
Leif:a success overnight, but 1 minute you're in and
Leif:next you're out. We come back from commercial
Leif:break. Rufus is making waffles at the loft
Leif:while jenny reads in sullen silence.
Leif:Rufus lets Jenny know that she has to go to school on a
Leif:Saturday to apologize to headmistress.
Leif:Well, yeah, dad.
Leif:Yeah. Good, good. Taylor Mumson
Leif:scene. She did some great, great
Leif:work here.
Leif:Yeah, she played a perfect, angry teenage
Leif:girl.
Leif:She really did.
Leif:and again, this is a good move by Rufus
Leif:getting her chance to apologize.
Leif:Yeah, yeah.
Leif:I don't know. Saturday.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:Blair and Serena fight. blair is mad
Leif:at Serena for stealing her spotlight. Serena is mad at blair
Leif:for being blair. Can't we all just get along
Leif:and that?
Leif:Really? And, like, Serena's right to be mad at
Leif:Blair for being Blair because Blair comes at
Leif:her out of nowhere with all of
Leif:these accusations, and
Leif:nothing Serena says gets
Leif:her to back off. So Serena is like, all right, fuck off,
Leif:blair. And. And which is how they
Leif:always, which is how all of their fights have gone. You
Leif:know, it has always been, you
Leif:know, Blair erupts over something
Leif:Serena says or a, look Serena gives her
Leif:something Serena is like, okay, fine. I'm not dealing
Leif:with this. Fuck off, Blair. And then
Leif:an emergency happens to bring them back together.
Leif:Noah Shapiro is getting awfully meta with his
Leif:advice to Dan. Your protagonist character is
Leif:boring, right, about Charlie trout.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:This is just clearly the writers getting meta because, like,
Leif:penn Badgley's number three on the call street by blake and
Leif:laytone.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:He was supposed to be the main character.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:Was not very popular, so Chuck was much more
Leif:popular, so, yeah, he's clearly the writer's being
Leif:bad at.
Leif:Yeah, yeah, yeah. And needing a more,
Leif:less boring protagonist.
Leif:Having created a pretty boring
Leif:protagonist, it.
Leif:Turns out Bart is the one who bought
Leif:Lily's reese photo. Apparently, Lily
Leif:takes likes, being stalked.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:And this is, like, a, scene where you really see the
Leif:similarities between Lily and Serena.
Leif:Yeah, yeah.
Leif:They like the attention. No matter if it's negative or
Leif:positive, they just like the attention.
Leif:And earlier in the episode when.
Leif:When Serena, when Serena found out
Leif:about the picture, you see that, too,
Leif:that Serena's like, oh, yeah.
Leif:Like, awesome.
Leif:Yeah, that's awesome. And here
Leif:I wasn't. So as far as the stalking
Leif:goes, to me, it was
Leif:Bart bass learned of this
Leif:picture and bought it at that point.
Leif:Right. That is as far as my. As I took it
Leif:and I saw it as I understood why she was excited.
Leif:She wanted this thing, and now
Leif:he's buying it, and I'm sure there's a story
Leif:behind how he got to have it.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:So that's where. Where that excitement comes from. You
Leif:know?
Leif:I didn't tell anyone, so he's just, like, looking into me
Leif:and.
Leif:Yeah, and. And.
Leif:But at the same time, I'm sitting there thinking, Bart Bass
Leif:is never going to let anyone see a naked
Leif:picture of his wife ever.
Leif:No way. That that superhero villain,
Leif:that super villain.
Leif:Well, I mean, he really pulls off his
Leif:mask in this episode.
Leif:Oh, yeah.
Leif:Like, at this up until this point, like, we kind
Leif:of suspected this guy is kind of evil,
Leif:but he hasn't really shown his hand until now.
Leif:yeah, well, and we'll get
Leif:to that. We'll get to that.
Leif:The needle drops. Lady gaga plays.
Leif:Vitamin water is on display as we
Leif:officially. We're officially at
Leif:fashion week. Blair is being petty with Serena,
Leif:but Jenny once again jumps in front of the b train to make
Leif:sure the show goes off without a hitch.
Leif:Eleanor makes Blair feel like shit.
Leif:He has no fucking time for
Leif:Blair's shit, and I love it. I love how
Leif:she's just like, what are you doing, Blair?
Leif:Yeah. Get out of here. Not now. Yeah.
Leif:Chuck is trying to bond with Bart, but Bart
Leif:completely blows him off. Dan overhears and
Leif:sits down to find his story.
Leif:Dan slowly sliding into the upper
Leif:east side lifestyle of using
Leif:friends and family to get ahead.
Leif:Yeah. It's the first time Robin
Leif:has ever said she wanted to give Chuck bass a
Leif:hug.
Leif:Oh, they're going over dry to make him a sympathetic
Leif:character.
Leif:He. I, mean, and it. And in this, it's working.
Leif:It's working. It works. Yeah.
Leif:I mean, I. He's good. His
Leif:convert, the Batman voice is
Leif:silly, but, like, the
Leif:conversation with Bart
Leif:is fucking heartbreaking.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:You know, and, like, I never had a cats in
Leif:the cradle dad like that. Like, I. As
Leif:complicated as my relationship with my dad was,
Leif:my dad was always there
Leif:if I ever, like, needed him. like, yes,
Leif:he worked a lot, and he was the. You know, there
Leif:were. He was the one who I saw less
Leif:of, but he was. I
Leif:never had that. But you still had that real heart
Leif:wrenching, like, you know, that feeling
Leif:of, like, God, how much that sucks to
Leif:just be blown off like that by someone
Leif:who all you want is to see him.
Leif:You know?
Leif:Blair is still being petty and taking
Leif:out all her insecurities regarding her mother and Serena out
Leif:on Jenny without caring who gets in the
Leif:crossfire. Looks like she is going to
Leif:sabotage Jennings next desk.
Leif:I have two things here, and the first is just like,
Leif:blair, how does this actually
Leif:benefit you? like, yeah, you're making Jenny look bad,
Leif:but how does it actually, it's
Leif:not.
Leif:She's lashing out.
Leif:Yeah. And she
Leif:was so, again, like, she used to be so
Leif:calculated, you know, she would steal the batteries
Leif:and research flow, ride assams. But, like,
Leif:she had a plan, you know?
Leif:Also why.
Leif:But she was never fighting against Serena
Leif:directly.
Leif:Right. But so that brings me to my other
Leif:thing, though. You're the stage manager
Leif:that you just saw Blair try to fuck everything
Leif:up and just got told, no, don't listen to
Leif:her. Why? When Blair comes up to you and says,
Leif:oh, I'm taking over for Jenny now, you're,
Leif:like, dope. Here's what you need to do, and I
Leif:will just not go verify this.
Leif:Well, technically, she didn't say she was taking over for
Leif:Jenny. She just found out what she was doing, and then
Leif:she went and told the models to leave.
Leif:I know. She said something like,
Leif:I I want.
Leif:To make sure we don't mess. We don't mix up our tasks again. So
Leif:tell me what Jenny's supposed to do.
Leif:Right. Okay. Yeah, you're right. You're right.
Leif:And then she just went in and told them all to leave. so Jenny
Leif:would be blamed.
Leif:Yeah. Cause that couldn't possibly backfire.
Leif:Cause no, one could verify who sent
Leif:them all home.
Leif:spotted Blair Waldorf looking to do a
Leif:good deed. There's a first time for
Leif:everything. And that is the end of
Leif:act two. We moved into the final
Leif:act. Dan is trying to get inside
Leif:Chucks head. Chuck gets bored with 20
Leif:questions and decides to make an indecent
Leif:proposal to a woman at the bar. The woman
Leif:is offended and her boyfriend tries to pick a fight.
Leif:Dan jumps in and drops the boyfriend with a right
Leif:overhand. Chuck looks like he has a new
Leif:best friend. Friend.
Leif:Chuck says something interesting. he
Leif:says, what's your dad like? And Chuck says, he's like
Leif:me, but older and meaner. But older and
Leif:meaner. And you've seen over and
Leif:over that Chuck aspires to be his
Leif:dad. He wants to be his dad, but he
Leif:also wants a relationship.
Leif:But does he really want to be his dad or he just want his dad's
Leif:approval and he thinks that's the way to get it?
Leif:I. Well, and I think that's more of the point I was going
Leif:for, is that he wants to be.
Leif:He wants that approval. And he thinks to get his dad's
Leif:approval, he has to be his dad, when really
Leif:it's just, you know, kind of
Leif:gotta bring your mom back.
Leif:Necromancy to get on your dad's goods.
Leif:Rufus comes home to an empty loft to find out
Leif:Jenny failed her interview.
Leif:Yeah, I don't think I even took a
Leif:note for this scene, but it was just
Leif:fuck, like things have
Leif:escalated.
Leif:Yeah, that damn Jenny.
Leif:At the show, Jenny ignores a call from Rufus only to
Leif:discover Blair sent all the models home. early season
Leif:one, Jenny appears to be back, always reacting and landing on
Leif:her feet.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah, Blair sent them home.
Leif:Like she knew Blair sent them home.
Leif:All she has to do is say, yeah, Blair sent them home. I'll
Leif:figure it out. And she does figure it out. And
Leif:one thing that I love about it is that she sees
Leif:Serena and she knows that she can go to her.
Leif:But like, Serena loves Jenny and. And
Leif:now Jenny later on does have the
Leif:conversation about serena. But
Leif:Jenny has always been friendly with Serena, and
Leif:Serena loves. Has always loved Jenny
Leif:as a little sister. So it makes
Leif:so much sense for her to go to her for this favor too.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:Dan and Chuck are in a holding sale.
Leif:Chuck is extremely grateful for Dan stepping
Leif:in on his behalf. Chuck reveals that Bart hates
Leif:him because his mother died in
Leif:childbirth.
Leif:Yeah. So this is the first mention
Leif:of Chuck's mom since the pilot. Yeah, and in
Leif:the pilot, they only say that she has
Leif:pills like dipping into her
Leif:pills.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:Which there could still be a medicine
Leif:cabinet with. I mean, Chuck would have rated it by
Leif:now, but there could.
Leif:I mean, you would think they'd be expired to.
Leif:Well, yeah, but if you're like, if you're a,
Leif:you know, 16 year old who's just popping
Leif:anything to see what it'll do.
Leif:Expired might not bother you.
Leif:Yeah. He's not an average 16 year old. He doesn't have to fucking.
Leif:He can get the good shit.
Leif:Yeah, but. But all. Or, like, where does his
Leif:experimenting start, you know?
Leif:Bart arrives home with a gift other than the one Lily
Leif:was expecting, it turns out Bart only
Leif:bought the photo so no one could ever see
Leif:it.
Leif:Aside from everything. Fucking Kelly
Leif:Rutherford in this scene, m
Leif:man, her reactions, her
Leif:face, though, the control
Leif:she has in her face
Leif:shows every.
Leif:Every flash of emotion going
Leif:through that. That whole
Leif:conversation, when she's like,
Leif:I want to see it. And
Leif:this scene and the next one
Leif:made this scene
Leif:in the season finale of season one.
Leif:Now it's creepy. Remember, we went back and forth
Leif:a little bit about that and how I was just like,
Leif:yeah, I could see how he would pick up on Rufus.
Leif:On the rufus thing.
Leif:Yeah, I was kind of hinting at it, and.
Leif:But now. Yeah, I remember you hinting at it a
Leif:little bit, but now it's creepy because now
Leif:it's. He has dug into every aspect of
Leif:her life, and. And
Leif:he's a fucking super villain.
Leif:Jenny, his plan is to use Serena,
Leif:Poppy, and her friends. Serena, Poppy,
Leif:and her friends as models. How handy is it that
Leif:society girls are way for thin.
Leif:Eleanor again, when every time.
Leif:Every time he goes to rehab his sales.
Leif:Sore about the mark
Leif:Jacobs.
Leif:Jenny, plan. Okay. Ah, the show seems
Leif:to be a big success. Serena is still feeling guilty,
Leif:but she lets Poppy convince her to walk in the show.
Leif:However, it looks like Blair may still have one last
Leif:hole. Hole card up her
Leif:sleeve.
Leif:yeah. And
Leif:so poppy's right on everything here. And, you know,
Leif:it's a great scene, a great
Leif:acknowledgement for Serena of, like, wow. You know, I
Leif:really do hold back because Blair gets upset,
Leif:and she does. We've seen it over and over, especially now
Leif:that we're, for the first time, seeing
Leif:Serena take the forefront. And
Leif:Blair's acting badly. In fact,
Leif:that earlier scene where she says they're like a
Leif:flock of hummingbirds, they're on to me this week. They'll be on
Leif:to someone else next week, and they'll be back to you eventually,
Leif:too, so. Which also shows that
Leif:Serena, these things just come naturally
Leif:for her, and she doesn't have to work for it.
Leif:It looks like Blair gave Serena a dress
Leif:designed by jenny. I have to think. Blair thought
Leif:Jenny's dress would be a.
Leif:Flop, and, and even if it wasn't a
Leif:flop, she knew it would be controversial. Like, she
Leif:has that tell early on when she's like, oh, sue,
Leif:you snuck your dress into the
Leif:Eleanor Waldorf line. You know, like,
Leif:she knew that even if it was good,
Leif:like, either way, Blair was going to,
Leif:like, get what she wanted. But also,
Leif:I would assume that blair thought that that dress would suck.
Leif:I also like to point out the whole fashion shoot was,
Leif:I liked the way it was shot. We don't
Leif:get a lot of action shots in Gossip Girl.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:Yeah, I did. I did think they did a good job with the
Leif:directing there.
Leif:Yeah, I agreed.
Leif:Blair admits that she was taking her Serena
Leif:frustration out on Jenny. Jenny tells
Leif:Blair that Jenny wanted to be friends with Blair,
Leif:not Serena, last year. This scene is a
Leif:mirror of Jenny and elder scene from the dark
Leif:Knight.
Leif:Yeah. And it's a nice Jenny Blair
Leif:scene. Yeah. And it's nice to see them.
Leif:I like to see them bonding.
Leif:Yeah. They bond, and they kind of put a lot of
Leif:the last year's shit behind them
Leif:finally.
Leif:And then we go to a commercial, and at the police
Leif:station, Chuck accidentally gets Dan's
Leif:personal effects and discovers the story about
Leif:himself.
Leif:Bum, bum, bum.
Leif:Why are you carrying around with you, Dan?
Leif:Yeah, why? With all the notes on it and everything, too,
Leif:like, you fucking idiot.
Leif:all the ridding.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:Lily and Bart are fighting about Bart's
Leif:investigations. However, it looks like Lily has a secret
Leif:bigger than all the rest.
Leif:Yeah. Who did Lily pass coke to?
Leif:That's where my mind,
Leif:who's dead? Who's dead? Who's fucking dead?
Leif:Lily.
Leif:Chuck, confronts tan about the story.
Leif:Chuck lashes out in anger, but he's clearly hurting
Leif:from the betrayal.
Leif:And it was fair, you know, like, and, yeah.
Leif:Again, I did, like, Ed Westbrook's acting in the
Leif:scene.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:He saw that he was hurt.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah. Ed was really good in this whole episode.
Leif:He thought he had a friend.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah. And he didn't really. And
Leif:he, and it was like a momentary, like,
Leif:I. Yeah, that, I mean, he thought he
Leif:actually was connecting with someone, cuz.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:Cuz, I mean, like, he likes Nate, but
Leif:Nate's probably not the best
Leif:conversationalist.
Leif:Yeah. Chuck doesn't. Chuck needs more than just
Leif:a friend. He needs. He needs a
Leif:frenemy, you know? And he needs someone that can
Leif:challenge him, on some level. And Dan
Leif:can challenge him.
Leif:Eleanor is about to end Jenny's career when
Leif:Jenny and Blair team up in the moment to convince
Leif:Eleanor to take credit for Jenny's dress,
Leif:which everyone loved.
Leif:Yeah. And so after all of
Leif:this shit, Blair, you're just like my b.
Leif:Like, sorry,
Leif:I didn't do it.
Leif:Looks like Jenny still has her dad to
Leif:contend with, but she's able to put it off for just a little
Leif:while longer.
Leif:Cold blooded.
Leif:Yeah. no, my dad's out of town.
Leif:Yeah, my dad's out of town. That's that crazy dude. You should
Leif:just let your man. Don't let him in.
Leif:And then we move into the epilogue.
Leif:Dan is getting bailed out by Noah
Leif:Shapiro. And Dan pulls back from the dark
Leif:side for the time being, but Shapiro tells him
Leif:he will never amount to anything with that attitude.
Leif:Shapiro is such an asshole. And the thought
Leif:of, like, the only way you can be a good writer is to be a
Leif:complete fucking exploitive asshole.
Leif:Like, I'm sure there's other.
Leif:How much? Like, come up with something.
Leif:Yeah.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:I could maybe try to just, I don't know, be creative.
Leif:Yeah. and again, it's harder for, you know,
Leif:dumb writers to write smart. It's hard for bad writers to write good
Leif:writing.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:I'm just playing along with Dan as a good writer. Just
Leif:like Jenny is a good fashion designer.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:he's like, well, maybe I'll write about this crotchety, old,
Leif:washed up. He's like, yeah, I can't wait to read it
Leif:and read his digest. I'll use it to prop up my
Leif:Pulitzers. That
Leif:was fantastic.
Leif:Like, I love those moments when Dan thinks, like,
Leif:ha. Got him. Then it's like, boom. Hm.
Leif:Oh.
Leif:At the post show wrap up, Eleanor
Leif:specifically thanks Jenny for all her
Leif:hard work. Rufus hears this and
Leif:seems impressed.
Leif:Yeah. Like, and Rufus needs to hear
Leif:that. Needs to hear that Jenny is really good at
Leif:this.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:And that she is praised for her work
Leif:by one of the most powerful people. I'd
Leif:say, like, up and coming, right? Eleanor's, like, powerful
Leif:up and coming.
Leif:Yeah. At the start of the show, she was just
Leif:about to take her company public.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah. So she's. She is very
Leif:powerful, I guess, at this. Ah.
Leif:We're to assume at this point she has a guy po. At
Leif:this point.
Leif:Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. And
Leif:is competing with Marc Jacobs.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:You know, so she's on that level. You know, she's worried
Leif:about who's at his show. So, like, here is one of
Leif:the most powerful people in the industry who is now saying,
Leif:your daughter is saving her
Leif:show.
Leif:Blair and Serena have a conversation. It looks
Leif:as though Blair is trying to be humble, but Serena shuts
Leif:that down. Dan might be resisting the dark side
Leif:for now, but it appears Darth serena is here to
Leif:stay.
Leif:Much better heel turn than last week.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:Much more concise, much more
Leif:directed, and. And much more
Leif:motivated. Last week, I didn't
Leif:feel like it was a great
Leif:motivative. There was a lot
Leif:behind the heel turn.
Leif:Well, yeah, she was hurt last week. This
Leif:week, she just kind of pissed off.
Leif:Well, and she's over it, right? She's over.
Leif:She's over 16 years of
Leif:not wanting to hurt Blair's feelings.
Leif:And she has a new friend, too.
Leif:she has a new friend, and she just got out of
Leif:this relationship that she was in, so
Leif:she's got nothing else really going on.
Leif:She basically had the Blair reaction
Leif:to Blair when Blair came up to be humble, but,
Leif:like, I can't be mad at
Leif:Serena for it.
Leif:Like, oh, yeah, Blair was horrible all up, so.
Leif:Yeah, yeah.
Leif:Apparently, Rufus wasn't all that impressed
Leif:after all, because as soon as he gets Jenny alone, he
Leif:starts yelling at her again. Looks like little J.
Leif:Is dropping out of Constance,
Leif:man.
Leif:like we said earlier on, the two of them
Leif:both are making strong, valid points,
Leif:and, I mean, I'm really more on team
Leif:Jenny here because, like, she. She
Leif:actually has access to have her
Leif:career right now.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:And what? Like, I'm.
Leif:I am m interrupted at homeschool program.
Leif:Yeah. And I'm. And I'm an educator,
Leif:and. And I. As an educator,
Leif:I have always very strongly
Leif:believed that we should not be sitting kids in
Leif:high schools for four years
Leif:learning shit that they don't need when they could be
Leif:learning about the things they actually want to
Leif:be doing.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:And. And I'm a very big, you know,
Leif:advocate for trade schools, and high school
Leif:should for. Be for people that want to go to college
Leif:or want to work in
Leif:areas that you need, that.
Leif:That level of education. And here Jenny
Leif:has this opportunity to do an internship and work for
Leif:one of the most powerful people in the industry. Jenny right now
Leif:is fast tracked to
Leif:the career of her choice.
Leif:Yeah. The who's who of the fashion world just said her
Leif:dress design is awesome.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah. Just complimented her dress design,
Leif:and Rufus is. And when she says the thing about,
Leif:like, maybe I'm. What? Maybe you're more talented than me,
Leif:and it's like, maybe she is.
Leif:Ah, yeah, I think she might be. Rufus, both of your
Leif:kids might be you're gonna need. And. And now
Leif:I like the. Rufus is like, I hope you are. You know,
Leif:I hope that is the case.
Leif:But I also hate the difference between the way
Leif:he treats dad and the way he treats.
Leif:Yes, you're. You are
Leif:absolutely right. He treats her like a little girl all the
Leif:time. And it's something that, as. As a
Leif:dad, that I, you know, of
Leif:both the, you know, I have a son and a
Leif:daughter, and I. And I've got a in
Leif:between and all.
Leif:And know you treat all three of them
Leif:differently. And, yeah,
Leif:I. Yeah, but. But at the same
Leif:time, I've made it a very conscious effort
Leif:not to treat my daughter like
Leif:a little girl. You know, I
Leif:don't try to exclude her from.
Leif:From, you know, sports, conversations
Leif:and stuff like that. Like, I,
Leif:I don't treat her differently than the
Leif:other two. At least I try not to. And there are times
Leif:that I have to have those moments where I take a step
Leif:back. We've actually talked about this
Leif:since. But the first time I saw her after the
Leif:pandemic, I hadn't seen her for a
Leif:year, for over a year. I did not see my daughter the
Leif:year that she was 13. and I
Leif:saw her after the pandemic.
Leif:And the first time I saw her, I went into her room, and she
Leif:was wearing very short shorts
Leif:and a very tight crop top
Leif:shirt, the kind of stuff that she just lounges
Leif:around in. And I was not
Leif:expecting it. And she was, at this point, 14 years
Leif:old. And I went in and I saw her
Leif:and saw what she was wearing. And
Leif:the guy that I was, that I
Leif:was raised as was like, what
Leif:the, fuck does your fucking mother know?
Steve:You wear that?
Leif:Then all of these things are going through my head, and I
Leif:just look at her, and I go, hey, I just want to let you know dinner is ready. She's
Leif:like, thanks, dad. No problem. And I closed the door, and
Leif:I went downstairs, and I looked at Robin, and Robin and I looked at each
Leif:other, and we were like, what the fuck is she
Leif:wearing? And we had that moment
Leif:together, and then we're like, okay, this is. We
Leif:are not going to be those parents. We are not going to be the
Leif:ones who are going to shame our kids
Leif:clothing. We trust our kids. We know what they're
Leif:doing. Lock it the fuck down. So
Leif:Emily never knew what was going on in my head, but
Leif:I'm sure that there are times that comes across, you know.
Leif:Yeah. Circling back to
Leif:Rufus, I think the biggest, the best example
Leif:of his double standard would be the
Leif:episode ten, the high society where
Leif:he or he dresses Dan in this.
Leif:In the tux.
Leif:Yeah. Well, yeah, he says Jenny can't go
Leif:to the thing.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:By the way, he's like.
Leif:He's pushing Dan, but, yeah, he's like dressing him in the tux
Leif:to go and, you know.
Leif:Yeah, and you're right. That's the most
Leif:glaring. And there are others, too. You know,
Leif:a lot of this whole storyline of Jenny
Leif:wanting to do the fashion thing, Dan's
Leif:encouraged to go into writing,
Leif:but it's because he's doing it the way Rufus wants him to,
Leif:too.
Leif:Yeah. You know, but, yeah,
Leif:he's playing by the rules.
Leif:Stupid rules.
Leif:We'll see if he sticks by that. He was typing
Leif:up a story there at the end.
Leif:He was. He was. What are you doing, Dan?
Leif:We end the, Speaking of which, we end the episode of the
Leif:montage. Chuck reading Dan's story, Dan
Leif:typing at his laptop. Jenny
Leif:admires her dress. Lily and
Leif:Bart coldly go about their lives.
Leif:Blair looks on with envy as Serena and
Leif:Poppy get their pictures taken.
Leif:I don't really have anything on that. Something
Leif:I did want to comment on is I
Leif:feel like the pacing of the show these
Leif:last two episodes. We said that the writer that, you said
Leif:last week, the writers seem to find their stride, and
Leif:we had agreed on that, and I feel like they're still hitting
Leif:that. The last two episodes, I
Leif:took two pages of notes. Prior to that, it
Leif:was usually two and a half.
Leif:And in some
Leif:cases, I think there might have been fewer scenes.
Leif:But again, it speaks to the pacing that they've kind of
Leif:drawn out, especially the exposition scenes and
Leif:especially the beginning. There's a lot of
Leif:drawn out scene work, and
Leif:I, find that there's a new rhythm to the show
Leif:since they've been back to new.
Leif:Yeah, I feel like the, like, from
Leif:episode 15
Leif:of the first season up until, like,
Leif:the second episode
Leif:of the second season was kind of like a
Leif:soft reboot of the show.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah. That.
Leif:And now they found their new.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah. Did they. Did they
Leif:run out of books after season one or
Leif:did they just veer off completely?
Leif:I think it really veered off the books.
Leif:The only thing, like, only the kiss in the lips party.
Leif:Yeah. The first book was basically the first episode
Leif:got, it. And then we. So we add the episode with another gossip girl
Leif:monologue. If there is one thing
Leif:that ive learned, there would be no gossip without
Leif:secrets. You might be brave enough to
Leif:reveal your secret only to have it used against
Leif:you once someone elses secret might affect
Leif:you in unexpected ways. There are some
Leif:secrets youre only too happy to keep, others
Leif:service only to be buried away deeper than they were
Leif:before. But the most powerful secrets are the
Leif:truths you thought you could never reveal.
Leif:That, once spoken, changed everything.
Leif:But don't worry, b. The brightest stars
Leif:burn out the fastest, or at least that's what
Leif:I've heard. Waiting for a star to
Leif:fall. Exo, xo gossip
Leif:girl. What's coming
Leif:next?
Leif:Well, I'm kind of sensing a
Leif:jenny and blair versus serena thing
Leif:maybe boiling up. It'd, be weird,
Leif:I think, for jenny to go against serena, but, like,
Leif:blair, it would not be an.
Leif:It would not be out of character for blair to
Leif:unwittingly use Jenny
Leif:to.
Leif:What about what's next for Jenny at the
Leif:atelier?
Leif:I mean, right now she's
Leif:turning heads. You know, she just had this, you
Leif:know, she made Eleanor really mad, but then Eleanor
Leif:seemed to come around, so I feel like she's
Leif:gonna have. I don't know. Cause,
Leif:like, I hope she does drop out
Leif:of constance, and I hope that she does do some kind
Leif:of bigger internship there, but I feel
Leif:like Rufus is gonna be a dick about it.
Leif:If only betty knew someone who's homeschooled.
Leif:Oh, she
Leif:has a friend that's homeschooled.
Leif:That's right. Vanessa's homeschooled.
Leif:What about for us, serena and blaire? What,
Leif:they just continue to fight?
Leif:Well, I mean, I feel like,
Leif:like I said before, the. Their previous
Leif:fights concluded when there was an
Leif:emergency, but their other previous
Leif:fights were also blair
Leif:flipping out on serena, serena not having it
Leif:going away. Emergency happens, they come back
Leif:together. They're. They. They're good. So
Leif:I kind of feel like we're going to see them
Leif:actually go toe to toe for a little
Leif:bit, because, you know, the
Leif:last time we saw them go toe to toe,
Leif:it was episode three, and
Leif:blair was, you know, we saw serena
Leif:could play the game, but blair was better. but
Leif:now I also have to think that
Leif:serena knows how to play the game, but serena wasn't
Leif:a at top form then, you know?
Leif:So I think that now that serena is going to be in top form,
Leif:I think we're going to get a few episodes of this, at least.
Leif:What about, daddy, Chuck? Are we going to get anything more from
Leif:that?
Leif:I wouldn't assume too much would happen right
Leif:away. I kind of feel like. I feel
Leif:like just the way that this show
Leif:can write sometimes that that's going
Leif:to be something that comes up in a new situation down the
Leif:road that we'll see another pairing of that, but I think.
Leif:I don't expect this unless
Leif:that story he's writing actually has something to do with Chuck, but I
Leif:doubt it.
Leif:And then any idea what Lily's secret could
Leif:be?
Leif:She handed somebody coke.
Leif:I mean, what. What is bigger than
Leif:naked pictures? What is bigger than,
Leif:you know, it goes back to somebody dead.
Leif:What? She's. She was about to show her kids
Leif:her naked art. Yeah.
Leif:So, like, would she be hiding from her kids?
Leif:Yeah. What is she gonna hide from them? That is,
Leif:like, who's
Leif:dead?
Leif:This again?
Leif:Yeah, that's. Yeah. Like,
Leif:and how are you topping that? Do you guys remember you
Leif:killed someone last season?
Leif:Like, my other, like, daughter?
Leif:Yeah. Yeah. Well, they're just
Leif:mowing them down.
Leif:Let's go ahead and get into some segments.
Leif:This week in fandom, we jumped into
Leif:the wayback machine to check out the television without pity
Leif:forums. Hello there,
Leif:Peabody here. And this is the wayback machine
Leif:for traveling through time. And this is my boy
Leif:Sherman.
Leif:Speak, Shermandhe. Good boy.
Leif:So this week, everyone really
Leif:liked the Dan and Chuck interactions. That was the talk of
Leif:the town. Please, sir, can I have some more?
Leif:Pretty even split between the serenas and the
Leif:blairs. Not a lot of middle ground. So people are
Leif:like, oh, I'm a serena. Blair is horrible. Or I'm a Blair.
Leif:Serena's the worst.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:Dan is a bad writer, as we said. Yeah, bad
Leif:writers can't write.
Leif:Yeah. We just have to accept.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:And what's funny is that even in this universe are no longer
Leif:accepting that he's a good writer.
Leif:Well, I think that
Leif:they're appreciative of his technique. He just
Leif:doesn't have enough ideas yet.
Leif:Yeah, and he doesn't have any.
Leif:He's showing a potential because, like, they. The guy saw his
Leif:first story and liked it.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:So he has potential. He just needs to branch out and get some m.
Leif:More ideas.
Leif:Okay. All right.
Leif:That's the way I took it.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense.
Leif:Someone fit. a lot of people failed to notice that name
Leif:Vanessa were even absent.
Leif:Oh, wow. Ouch. I did notice that there was a no
Leif:nate in this. I don't. I
Leif:don't pay attention to no Vanessa because that's
Leif:not as unusual. I
Leif:feel, especially coming off of season
Leif:one. I guess she was in every episode this
Leif:season so far, but in episode in season one, she was
Leif:in and out constantly. I felt.
Leif:Yeah, or check.
Leif:I love confection.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:there's a lot of that.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:Most think, Jenny's a brat.
Leif:Yes.
Leif:Well, I mean, she is a brat, but I like
Leif:her.
Leif:Yeah, but. And, like, she's going after months.
Leif:yeah. She's doing the same thing Blair always does.
Leif:She's doing the same thing Rufus did as a kid.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:You know, like, yeah, she's.
Leif:I. Yeah, I think she's right. She's a
Leif:brat, but she's right.
Leif:Moving into episode grades, you are first
Leif:this week. What do you got?
Leif:So, yeah, I liked some of this. Like I said, I
Leif:missed the old, blair, but I really feel like
Leif:the writing in this, the directing in this, it was a
Leif:good episode. It was really solid.
Leif:I wouldn't say one of my favorites, but I'd say it's good.
Leif:I gave this one a b,
Leif:so.
Leif:I really liked the directing in this episode and the
Leif:writing and the acting. I gave this an
Leif:a. I felt like this is the soft reboot is
Leif:overdeveloped. This is the show, and they. They are
Leif:in full swing now.
Leif:Yeah. Ah. I think I need to get a little more on board with the
Leif:new. With the new
Leif:show, you know, with the. With that, with where new world
Leif:order.
Leif:Steve, get the program.
Leif:Well, the thing is, is that I thought I was with the
Leif:Marcus stuff, right? Because then I thought, like, oh, we're
Leif:a soap opera now, but now it's back to
Leif:being. It is kind of back to that,
Leif:you know, these friends fighting and
Leif:scheming with each other. So we are getting back
Leif:to that again.
Leif:Whenever you see guest stars come into the picture, that's
Leif:the signal for a soaps or Elise are coming in.
Leif:Oh, okay. All right.
Leif:But then, they have the serious. They keep, like, the main cast and
Leif:serious storylines with each other.
Leif:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:Stock watch you got going up.
Leif:So. Going up. Serena,
Leif:who's walking out on top of here? Little
Leif:J. Jenny's stock went up.
Leif:Eleanor, her show was a huge hit,
Leif:and, that's actually all I have going up
Leif:in this one.
Leif:I actually had exactly the same for exactly the
Leif:same reasons.
Leif:Yeah, yeah.
Leif:And Eleanor shows the hit. Jenny had the big
Leif:dress and was the, you know, she. The key
Leif:player making the show work, and
Leif:Serena is a huge star.
Leif:Yeah, yeah. They. They. Yeah, they took
Leif:it. The only one I had going down was
Leif:Blair. I felt like,
Leif:you know, Blair lost control,
Leif:and her schemes all. None of
Leif:them panned out, and none of them were going to work in her favor
Leif:if they did pan out. Like, she's. She
Leif:only got out of this episode.
Leif:Okay. Because her schemes didn't work because
Leif:she was out schemed. Otherwise she would have been fucked.
Leif:So she's the only one I had going down.
Leif:I had a lot more people going down.
Leif:I did have. I had Blair going
Leif:down for the same reason she failed. And she was just
Leif:horrible with all episode.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:I also had Rufus going down because, the
Leif:whole double standard thing I mentioned earlier.
Leif:Yeah, that's a fair one to go down.
Leif:I had dad going down. He did
Leif:sort of the right moral thing, but
Leif:he did the bad thing for his career.
Leif:I think he could have made a compromise by, like, changing the story up a
Leif:little bit, making it less obviously he was talking
Leif:about.
Leif:Yeah. I mean, he definitely should run it. Worked with it.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:And added, you know, what's that?
Leif:I mean, that's what he is doing at the end.
Leif:Yeah. Well, and, that is
Leif:actually what you're describing is why I had him go
Leif:nowhere. Is that, like, he had
Leif:this. The opportunity. Didn't really take the opportunity. He
Leif:kind of goes, you saw, I landed him in the middle.
Leif:I also had Chuck going down. I
Leif:mean, he thought, he had a thought. He had a friend. And he's
Leif:just a sad, sad boy. He has a
Leif:sad boy.
Leif:I felt. I thought about Chuck.
Leif:I actually thought about writing Chuck. And I felt
Leif:too bad because that's who I felt
Leif:too bad for Chuck to give him the down this week
Leif:because, of his fucking dad.
Leif:I'm merciless.
Leif:Yeah. Oh, you know what? That's the other one.
Leif:I'm older and meaner than Chuck.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:Yeah. I want to put Barb bask going down, too.
Leif:Yeah, I. About him.
Leif:I do have him on my list as well. Cause,
Leif:yeah, he was just super creepy. Revealed
Leif:his true supervillain, nature, finally fucking
Leif:stalked his. And then I
Leif:had Lily also going down. Cause she, like, at first
Leif:washed and turned on by this talking, but then,
Leif:like, when she realized how far I was, she. And
Leif:then she's just kind of, like, stuck.
Leif:Yeah.
Leif:Yeah, but that's it.
Leif:Yeah. I think Lily is another fair one. I didn't have
Leif:her going down. and partially because of just
Leif:how great Kelly Rutherford was. That
Leif:one scene she just fucking.
Leif:Every. Every emotion you can see passed
Leif:across her face. And she was so good.
Leif:But here's the best outfits from the.
Steve:Last episode we see.
Leif:Who do you have for best outfit?
Leif:Speaking of which, I have Lily's purple
Leif:outfit from the beginning when she's
Leif:talking with becks in that opening in her first
Leif:scene.
Leif:Okay, so, like, the purple top with the floral print.
Leif:Yeah, with the floral print dress. Yeah.
Leif:Okay. I did not like the dress. I thought it looked kind of
Leif:like. I did like the top.
Leif:Oh, okay.
Leif:That's rare.
Leif:That's rare.
Leif:And I actually gave it to her purple dress at
Leif:the end when she specifically, once she put
Leif:on the emerald necklace.
Leif:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Leif:Uh-huh I also really liked
Leif:Chuck's. You said he looked like Fred from
Leif:Scooby Doo the other episode.
Leif:uh-huh
Leif:Now he really looked like he
Leif:did.
Leif:He had, like, full ascot.
Leif:That is it for segments. You got
Leif:anything to plug this week?
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Leif:and Chuck visit Yale University.
Leif:Oh, interesting, because we might
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Steve:Every time you walk away, run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of m me with you there
Steve:oh, it seems I'm walking right to
Steve:your door
Steve:my heart's still resting looking for
Steve:something more
Steve:are you ever gonna see everything you mean to
Steve:me? I'm trying really hard to believe
Steve:every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:uh? Every time you walk away or run
Steve:away you take a piece of me with you
Steve:there every time you walk
Steve:away or run away you take a piece of me
Steve:with you there never
Steve:feels right when I'm out here on my
Steve:own
Steve:I left last night and it feels like
Steve:way too long.
Leif:Are.
Steve:You ever gonna see everything you mean to me? I'm
Steve:trying really hard to believe
Steve:every time you walk away, run away you take a piece
Steve:of me you there
Steve:every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:come back to me
Steve:smile and you'll make my life
Steve:complete
Steve:every time you walk away or run away you take a piece
Steve:of me with you there
Steve:every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:every time you walk away, run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there
Steve:every time you walk away and run away you take a
Steve:piece of meat with you there
Steve:m every time you walk away or run away
Steve:you take a piece of me with you there
Steve:every time you walk away or run away you take a
Steve:piece of me with you there.